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Inside Look: Rab Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Jacket
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- The Kinetic Alpine has been used and loved by Trekitt for years - the New 2.0 features updated materials and an improved fit to make this classic even better. The Kinetic Alpine 2.0 is a very unique creature; it takes the softness, stretchiness and breathability of a softshell, and the waterproof capabilities of a hard shell to create a jacket halfway between the two. It's perfect for use in the same situations as you'd normally use a softshell, but where the weather may be a little more changeable.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:15 - What is the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 Jacket?
02:33 - What is it made of?
06:42 - What are its features?
09:39 - How does it fit?
11:33 - Where does it fit in the layering system?
12:34 - Summary
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I wish they did this in better colours. I undertstand the use of bright colours but they could do like Arcteryx and release nice subtle earth tones and pastels too.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It I know what you mean. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Currently have the original Kinetic Alpine trousers and they are utterly amazing; spent several very wet days in Dartmoor with them and the performed perfectly; anything thinking about getting any of the Kinetic Alpine range should go for it!
Great advice! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Has Harry had a pay rise yet🤔
Bought this jacket off you guys last week and its amazing!
Anthea 😍😍
Thank you very much! I'm sure that you will love using it. Paul.
Great review guys! In-depth as always, I have been very interested in this piece as my other shell wears like a trash bag lol, thank you for all of your reviews, especially during these difficult pandemic times as leaving the house to shop isn’t always an option, it really helps make informed decisions on gear when having to order online. You sirs and Hanna are doing the world a great service 👍😊
Ah you're welcome, thanks for the kind words! Harry
I want one. A very honest review. Thank you.
That’s all you’ll get from me; total honesty! Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt That's why you are my go to shop for the best camping and clothing gear. Thanks for posting.
Hello @trekitt folks. Thanks for another exceptional video. With as breathable as this appears to be, would it take the place of the Rab Vapor Rise Summit? I know the latter is exceptionally breathable, has the soft, brushed lining, and is somewhat rain resistant. Is the Kinetic Alpine a bit more versatile due to its ability to keep the wearer drier in very wet weather? If only buying one, are the two close enough that the Kinetic would be the one to get? Lastly, is the fit the same on both or is the sizing different? Thanks in advance and keep up the terrific work.
The two aren't reallllyyy comparable. The Kinetic Alpine is a super breathable waterproof, whereas the VR Summit is a super breathable insulated layer. For fast moving activities in relatively tame conditions, the VR is king. Sizing is fairly similar; both are on the slim side, but the VR has more room in the arms/shoulders. Harry
I own the original Kinectic Alpine and I love it, soft and quiet to wear. However I have to be careful in the bush here in Australia as I’ve already put a small hole in it. Where as my Arcteryx Theta hard shell is absolutely bomb proof in the bush, but noisy to wear and I don’t find it as breathable. I’m still waiting for the perfect shell...
Aren’t we all Jon! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Based on the numbers this seems exactly like Neoshell, pretty cool. Until TNF puts out better FL products with 75K breathability this seems like a great buy.
Hi Mark, the Kinetic is a game changer in terms of comfort and performance, but please bear in mind that it's not designed for super tough gnarly mountaineering. Paul.
So do you think the non-alpine Kinetic 2.0 lacks the tougher Nylon bits and has a softer feel over the whole jacket?
Cause that would actually be a bonus in my case.
It doesn't feel hugely different; both are really soft and stretchy. But the Kinetic (non-alpine) will be a little more breathable.
@@trekitt awesome, I'm between the non-alpine Kinetic 2.0 and the Arc'teryx Gamma SL. Gotta do some more research!
Thank you
Bit of a curve ball question here , thinking of this jacket & the trousers for walking the dog in our inclement weather but also for playing golf . My thoughts are that this would be a better option than golf waterproofs .
Dog walking 1hr
Golf 3hr , what are your thoughts
I can't comment on the quality of gold attire but these will definitely work for it, as well as dog walking.
Just purchased the ladakh for autum/winter , would this be a good spring/summer walking jacket
Trying to decide on a decent hill walking jacket for my wife… this looks great, but so does the Mountain Equipment Womens Saltoro Jacket. Any reason to choose one over the other?
The Saltoro is a great jacket for prolonged, heavy rain when moving a little slower. The Kinetic is more of a half-way house between a softshell and a hardshell, so more when you need good weather resistance with more breathability. Harry
I can not decide between the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 or Muztag GORE-TEX Pro Jacket. I like the orange accents on the Muztag. Like if I was to get 2 of them, would the Kinetic Alpine 2.0 and Muztag set? So I can use Kinetic Alpine 2 for when I am hiking more and the Muztag for more severe tasks
As you've mentioned, the Muztag is definitely the one to pick for severe weather for prolonged periods of time. The Kinetic behaves more like a softshell and is best used in changeable, less severe conditions. As an all-rounder, the Muztag is the one I'd pick for absolute waterproof protection., but if you can afford both, they'll both be extremely useful in their own right. Harry
@@trekitt What about the Meridian and Muztag. Decided to wait for more colors to come out for the Kinetic. How does the Muztag compare with the Arc'teryx Beta AR? Some friends of mine have last year bata ar and said I should go with that as they think the materials are better than the Muztag. In terms of materials which jacket would you say is built better and will last longer?
Is the meridian and muztag noisy material when in use or is it a quieter one?
How waterproof is this compared to something like to something like a Patagonia Torrentshell 3L?
This is more of a softshell that will resist a lot of rain whereas the Torrentshell is a full on hardshell. Choose the latter for persistent heavy rain and the former for changeable conditions with greater breathability.
One question mine didn’t come with a travel pouch 👝? Thanks
Oops! Maybe ask Rab if they have a spare? Harry
Currently struggling to decide between one of these or a Berghaus AThunder Mountain Gore Tex, both similar price.
I'd say go with the full hardshell if you don't already have one; from my experience, the Kinetic Alpine is brilliant and can pretty much do it all, but in the worst weather, I'd still want to be taking a dedicated hardshell, if only just for peace of mind rather than anything else. I have the original Kinetic trousers and would still talk proper shell trousers out, its just that the conditions have to be worse for my to change into them than if it I was wearing normal softshell trousers
Hi Martin, get both! The Kinetic is absolutely brilliant, but you will still need a super durable hardshell if you are going to do some tough gnarly mountaineering. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Any experience with the patagonia upstride? im debating between the kinetic alpine and upstride
Afraid not, sorry.
I've got the normal kinetic 2.0, on the website it says it's less waterproof on the rating system, but they're the same fabric?
The Alpine has reinforced shoulders/arms/hood, so I'd assume that would add a little extra weather protection. In reality they're very similar. Harry
Any idea why Rab has completely stopped selling their vapor rise line? Love my alpine and wanted to get their lighter stuff for spring
Hi Mark, they haven't, it's available right here...www.trekitt.co.uk/facetresults.aspx?Term=rab%20mens%20vr
@@trekitt unfortunately I’m in the US so I usually buy direct from Rab and they seem to have almost zero VR items in the past couple of months
How does the Rab compare to the ME Orbital jkt, it seems like a similar product?
Orbital is slightly longer, more breathable and will fit a helmet underneath its hood, whereas the Kinetic is more packable and has a more 'head-shaped' hood if you'll rarely wear a climbing helmet. Realistically, both are brilliant pieces and it largely comes down to fit. Harry
When are you getting stock for the arcteryx atom LT hoody in kingfisher colour ?
We've got 3 more in a size large arriving later this month (exact date not known unfortunately) and more due around the beginning of May. I'd recommend selecting the size you need on our website and click the 'notify' button - this'll send you an email the minute they arrive with us so you don't miss out. Harry
Stuck between this or the Mountain Equipment Orbital any major differences in fit?
Hi Stuart. I've not used the M.E Orbital, I've only tried it on in the Service Centre, and my immediate comments would be that the Rab is softer and stretchier than the Orbital; the M.E does feel a bit tougher. Fit wise they are very similar, with the Rab being ever so slightly longer in the body and arms. I hope that helps. Paul.
@@trekitt Thanks Paul just ordered the Orbital 👍
Is it much quieter than a hardshell?
Yes, definitely. Probably the same volume as a traditional softshell. Harry
Any reviews of the arcteryx gamma lt?
Not yet, but we'll add it to the list! Thanks for watching. Paul.
This is my favourite jacket of all time wearing it feels like I’m being hugged I love rab thanks for being much better then shitty nortface!!
Like me you need large tall sizes. I’m same size and weight as you.
Hydrophilic membrane? Shouldn’t it be a hydrophobic membrane?? Philic would attract water, not repel!
Nowhere near as waterproof as Rab imply. The soft shell material means the water holds on the fabric and it soon becomes saturated and stops breathing.
Really? I hate when so called waterproof jackets turn out to be rubbish....so annoying.