Waldeck-Frankenberg | 1945 und ich | Archivmaterial
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Die Filmaufnahmen zeigen ein riesiges Lager mit deutschen Kriegsgefangenen in der Nähe von Frankenberg, einen Gottesdienst für US-Soldaten bei 04:57 und die Siegesfeier der Alliierten im Hotel Fürstenhof in Bad Wildungen bei 06:56.
In vielen Orten des Kreises widersetzten sich Bürger*innen den NS-Durchhalteparolen und signalisierten mit weißen Tüchern die kampflose Aufgabe - trotz Androhung der Todesstrafe. In Frankenberg zog der Leiter der Edertalschule, Friedrich Meis, den amerikanischen Panzern entgegen. Am 29. März 1945 war der Krieg in Frankenberg zu Ende. Als Befreier wollten viele Frankenberger die Amerikaner noch nicht sehen. Zwei Wochen zuvor waren bei zwei schweren Bombenangriffen noch fast 100 Menschen in der Stadt ums Leben gekommen. Im Vergleich zu anderen Städten hat Frankenberg den Krieg aber relativ unbeschadet überstanden. Von knapp 4000 Wohnungen, waren nur rund 4 Prozent zerstört bei Kriegsende.
Anlässlich des 75.Jahrestages des Kriegsendes haben wir Archivmaterial für alle Regionen Hessens recherchiert - in unserem hr-Archiv und in den National Archives in Washington. Dort haben wir auch viele bisher unveröffentlichte Aufnahmen gefunden, die die US-Armee während Ihres Einmarsches und kurz danach in Hessen gemacht hat. Dieses Filmmaterial haben wir anhand der Angaben des Archivs nach hessischen Regionen und Kreisen sortiert. Da es oft keine Infos gab, wo genau die Aufnahmen entstanden sind: Habt ihr mehr Informationen, was in diesem Clip oder wer genau zu sehen ist? Dann meldet euch bei 75Jahre@hr.de.
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Der junge Soldat im Vordergrund war mein Vater. Er hat "seine" Kompanie aus Ostpreußen nach Nordhessen geführt. Er hat davon berichtet wollte aber keine Einzelheiten schildern. Ich bin Historiker geworden auch mit dem Motiv die Hintergründe zu erforschen und der Nachwelt zu vermitteln. Das ist mir zum Teil gelungen, denn die Traumata sassen tief. Das Ergebnis ist "nie wieder Krieg"
Witam.. Dokładnie tak nigdy więcej .pozdrawiam
He looks like he should be playing soccer instead of fighting war.
Ich muss zustimmen. Schließlich führen die Europäer in der Europäischen Union keinen Krieg miteinander. Leider schicken sie wieder Munition in die Ukraine. Keinen Krieg zu führen, ist einigen Politikern zu schwer.
Wir kommen aus Paderborn....Möge Eugen Drewermann erhört werden....An den HR...die musikalische Begleitung ist ja wohl eher ein Fehlgriff
@@АракБобама В этом вопросе с вами трудно спорить. От Польши, отправляющей Leopard Panzers в Украину, ничего хорошего не выйдет. Украинцы вот-вот проиграют войну на истощение с Россией. Немецким танкам удастся лишь продлить войну.
What a nightmare for both sides caused by a handful of madmen..!
Не понимаю, зачем выдавливать слезу из обычной ситуации. Может покажем Хатынь, Тростинец, Майданек, Освенцим? И миллионы замученных там советских людей, поляков, сербов и других?
Ma che azz. Dici? I tedeschi torturatori?
What a disaster the end of the War was. Watching these videos I am astounded at the number of surrendered soldiers refugees . I spent some time in Germany in the early 70's as a young U.S G.I . These videos help me to understand what I saw 30 years after the war .
世界和平
@@johnlee2548please translate...
@@davidsams1050 .........He wrote "world peace"
What signs of of the war did you notice at that time?
pü
These are the fortunate ones compared to the Germans who surrendered to the soviets.
Very significantly large numbers of German soldiers who surrendered to the Allies ended up under Soviet control due to post war reparations manpower negotiations. Captive soldiers were tasked with rebuilding and clean-up. They were divvied up according to the negotiated need of the victor nations. The Soviets were deemed to have the greatest need. So those surrendering were maybe more fortunate... but not guarantied more fortunate.
...fabulous footage of some of the happier moments and world's happiest people in May, 1945!...vielen danke!...
War has an intoxicating allure to young and old when one's side is dominant, once the tables turn, nobody wants to admit they had been a willing participant.
Yep many are ready to fight ... until they get hurt .
Los jovenes van a la guerra obligados no a tener una aventura o participar en una pelicula.
Where are the jews_
I met a lot of former German wermacht soldiers in Germany during the 70s. Most were proud of their service but hated what it caused. It's a common question among soldiers. I never met a German that wouldn't tell you whether they had served.
@@grayharker6271 interesting, my takeaway from traveling with German teenagers around Europe back in the 80's was they spoke of their Grandfather's lament, if only the Winter of 42 hadn't been so cold....
What happens to that young soldier
3:10 Herr General was lucky. Private jeep, more value.
THey should let him walk on bear feets,arrogant prick.
What a difference between 1940, when the German soldiers entered Paris, proud and sure of their superiority by parading on the Champs Elysée, and 1945 when they appear ragged and defeated.
Gee yore smart cuz I never noticed that!
Good films, this one in particular reveals the logistical problems of surrendering soldiers. And you know they're all hungry.
Rither fugiu para Argentina. E muitos soldado alto escalão foram para Argentina lá o governo deu apoio. E Mengueli foi para o Brasil
Well, amis enough watches stolen from the prisoners
ХОРОШИЙ ФИЛЬМ.Я ищу деда.Шукурхонов или Зоиров Обидхон.1941 г.в плен.Он жил в Германии.Помогите мне пожалуйста.Я ишу родственникам.Мамин сестр.
My 4x great grandfather and Grandmother are from this area. My 4x great papa Ludwig August Wilhelm Siebert was born in Bad Arolsen Waldeck-Frankenburg. My 4 x great Grandmother Johanna Maria Margaretha Kuch was born in Kulte. This is sacred ground for me.
1:58 qui est ce jeune homme qu’on a fait sortir du rang ? Parle-t-il anglais ?
Reponse dans le premier commentaire
I agree, he seemed to be an interpreter .
The terror in the face of the young boy at 1:52 +. He can't be more than 15 years old! Heart-wrenching!
Now imagine the terror Germans caused to millions of women and children all over Europe.
Papież Benedykt miał 15 lat 🤧
@@lechulechu503 I think he was 18 in 1945, or not?
Этим повезло, не Сталинград...
Indeed, it’s not easy to deal with / manage / handle such a large number of soldiers surrendering.
As in the first world war, the ordinary German soldier was just as happy when the war was over for them. The last people who want a war are the soldiers.
only when they started losing. They were quite joyful when they ran over Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, etc. etc.
Don't kid yourself. Both wars had widespread and enthusiastic support from large segments of the German population. The only difference between the end of the WW I an the end of WWII is that at the end of WW I a lot of Germans felt they "really" hadn't lost. At the end of WW II, they were, for the most part, thoroughly disabused of that notion.
Yes, generally it is the non-soldier sending soldiers off to war and then wanting nothing to do with them when or if they return.
Slava USSR
Мухтар,ты что?
Какой тут СССР?
Тут город показывают,где я жил
@@53660.lovebiomeCOM
Победили гадину
@@53660.lovebiomeCOM
Если ты немцу с ружьем
Не желаешь навек отдать
Дом, где жил ты, жену и мать,
Все, что родиной мы зовем,-
Знай: никто ее не спасет,
Если ты ее не спасешь;
Знай: никто его не убьет,
Если ты его не убьешь.
И пока его не убил,
Ты молчи о своей любви,
Край, где рос ты, и дом, где жил,
Своей родиной не зови.
Пусть немца убил твой брат,
Пусть немца убил сосед,-
Это брат и сосед твой мстят,
А тебе оправданья нет.
За чужой спиной не сидят,
Из чужой винтовки не мстят.
Раз немца убил твой брат,-
Это он, а не ты солдат.
@@СергейРязанцев-п2у стихотворение из фильма, о снайпере из Одессы, Людмиле Павличенко .
И оно очень сильное и правильное !
Me gustan los archivos de la guerra
Waldeck isn't too far from my mother's home town. Bad Hersfeld. Been there several times, thankfully it survived the war without too much damage.
The Russians came fast from the eastside, so why to battle the Americans and allies, f.i.the cruel Ardennes offensive and D-day the result was that a great part of Germany was liberated by the Russians and the results are well known !!
Some German generals preferred to be surrender by the Americans but it was refused !
Hey Ivan, Russians never liberate anybody, fool.
What an emotional film. Proud but defeated soldiers, happy to have survived, devastating to have to surrender. Not many but surely there's guys in that crowd that had been fighting since 38. What do you go home to?
Many would have post traumatic syndrome before it was even understood. Starting over but scarred.
My father started his military service in 1936. He did not have any idea of the development to come. When the war was actually over, there was no perspective for him what he could do as a profession. His father who was a fanatic Nazi himself found a way to make him become an apprentice with the communal administration. He later became burgomaster of his home town.
@@wolfgangplatte2098 Of the many Wermacht soldiers I met in the 70s. I didn't meet one that wasn't a pretty nice person. Most just got caught up in the times.
At least we were civilized enough to send them home. While many in the SS got away with murder
@@grayharker6271 The myth of the clean Wehrmacht is a fantasy. The regular German armed forces (the Wehrmacht) were involved in the Holocaust or other war crimes during WWII. Wehrmacht waged on the Eastern Front, we now know, was more a criminal campaign than a conventional one. Soldiers murdered millions of civilians-including Jews-despoiled the region of economic resources, burned tens of thousands of villages to the ground, and starved millions of POWs. Starting as early as Sept 9,1939 - 300 Polish prisoners of war were murdered by the soldiers of the German 15th motorised infantry regiment in the Ciepielów massacre.
Das würde unsere Regierung gern wiederholen
Oh the lucky 🍀 men!
"Война дело молодых, лекарство против морщин..." В. Цой.
Männermaterial
Unsere Vorfahren
Если ты немцу с ружьем
Не желаешь навек отдать
Дом, где жил ты, жену и мать,
Все, что родиной мы зовем,-
Знай: никто ее не спасет,
Если ты ее не спасешь;
Знай: никто его не убьет,
Если ты его не убьешь.
И пока его не убил,
Ты молчи о своей любви,
Край, где рос ты, и дом, где жил,
Своей родиной не зови.
Пусть немца убил твой брат,
Пусть немца убил сосед,-
Это брат и сосед твой мстят,
А тебе оправданья нет.
За чужой спиной не сидят,
Из чужой винтовки не мстят.
Раз немца убил твой брат,-
Это он, а не ты солдат.
When this war is over We shall be accused of an infinity of murder, as if everywhere , and at all times, men at war did not behave in the same way. The Forgotten Soldier
Guy Sajer.. am reading that now..
@@pashvonderc381 you got that right! It’s a great book!
@@reginaldmcnab3265 it certainly is, have read it a few times, would love to see it made into a film..
@@pashvonderc381 Yes indeed. Captain HAUPTMANN WESREIDAU is one of my favorite in the book
@@reginaldmcnab3265 the Captain that was able to
stun a village with his chilling words about the safe/security of his men..
wtf was this 1:31?
Was geschah am Ende mit diesen gefangenen Soldaten?
Młodych najłatwiej zmanipulować.
Да американец руки в карманах,а немец перед ним руки по швам и на вытяжку!?
А должно быть на оборот?
Interesting how many of the German captives seem to be happy about it.
War never solves a thing...only bloodshed
That’s not true. War is a very effective solution to many problems. For example, war allowed us to remake Germany and Japan as stable, prosperous, peaceful democratic societies.
Meu Deus, qual a razão pra tanta violência?
военнопленные выглядят очень бодро и боеспособно сдались по приказу
Surrendered to the Americans they were lucky .
@@dougtheviking6503
Very significantly large numbers of German soldiers who surrendered to the Allies ended up under Soviet control due to post war reparations manpower negotiations. Captive soldiers were tasked with rebuilding and clean-up. They were divvied up according to the negotiated need of the victor nations. The Soviets were deemed to have the greatest need. So those surrendering were maybe more fortunate... but not guarantied more fortunate.
These are the lucky ones glad its finally over.
Germania ,Germania , să domnească " , peste toți .
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Easter service?
i wish i lived that time
Nacisti jsou spokojení a šťastní,že nepoznali tu pravou válku na Východní frontě.Byla by jich třetina.
Coloca som original.
Thanks
Fabulous films. Danke fur posting.
Это не сказка ь, это было настоящее ВОВ. 1938 -45 году.
Hallo ! Film ist gut. Vielen Dunke 🌻
easter lilies and fruit trees blooming in the spring. the best season in germany. so many soldiers surrendered at once the allied logistics system was over whelmed. at the time it was not set up for surrender of the entire german military. but nobody died of starvation there. quite contrary we fed the german populace for a long time. but it wasn't easy. unlike the purposeful starvation of MILLIONS of captured russians. nazi intentions were evil. as well as that of the reds planning for the long term subjugation of nations behind the "iron curtain". ask anyone from estonia down to yugoslavia what they thought of being drafted into the soviet union and how well they were treated. what they thought of stalin was not spoken out loud for fear of death.
it was so bad under the communists. that the population grew. And Eastern Europe is a supplier of labor slaves and women to brothels and the porn industry. Western plutocrats, deceitful dogs
@@redplanet9488
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Please look up ' die Rheinwiesen' and you can see thousends of German soldiers died in the camps, without shelder and food.
@@GeorgiyGeorgievich1972
Коммунизм - гораздо хуже национал социализма. Прибалтика была оккупирована Советским Союзом, ну а жили они лучше, не благодаря а вопреки.. Качество человеческого материала знаете ли , получше. А войну в Украине, в независимой стране, устроили как раз таки бывшие коммунисты-ревизионисты, мечтающие возродить "тюрьму народов"
@@ВикторПряников-й4ц Спорить с вами не буду, у каждого своë мнение. Только скажите мне - Украина после распада СССР последние 30 лет "независимая", как вы говорите, от кого? Может быть от США и Европы? А то что Россия начала СВО на этой территории всë правильно. Путин не стал, как Сталин в 1941г., ждать очередного сюрприза от " партнëров".
Вот смотрю и мне в пленных немцах видится недалёкое будущее боевиков ВСУ!!!
Germanische Sprache ist wichtig nicht netz
Common German words exist in English. The easy ones will never die, mein Bruder. Schwester. I have three children, I have done my part to keep our language alive.
@@redtobertshateshandles ute IS for a woman.
1991 war ich in Mengeringhausen bei der 2/65 als Wehrpflichtiger. Als ich den ersten Teil der 0/815 Reihe sah musste ich an( damals noch kein Bad😉)Arolsen denken. Kann es sein das dort gedreht wurde? Ich weiß das das jetzt keinen Bezug zu 1945 & ich hat. Aber Waldeck Frankenberg war eben auch ein Stück Heimat für mich. Nach der "Grundi" war ich Ordonanz im Georg Friedrich Kasino.
1991 im Georg Friedrich Kasino? Dann ist ihnen der Name Xaver Grosch vielleicht bekannt?
@@romanszlachta1736 Ja,der war damals Schichtführer.
OMG! Thousands of German POWs!
Most of the units on the western flank have run out of ammunition. No more supplies came. If available, it went to the Eastern Front. So the only thing left for the German soldiers was surrender.
and how many died in these usa camps, starved to death?
It was investigated :About 4000 -20000.September 1945 al prisoners were free.Not 1 miljon ,its a myth.Hitlerjugend and volkssturm sent home immediatly..
@@pieterzwaan4451 and it's not true, remember all the deaths and war crimes committed by the usa since than too, incl afganistan
Every soldier is a potential assassin.
The Alley forces should give the germany army to Jew. Let the Germany know how sorrow the jew treated by germany.
Германия великая страна! Очень сильно пострадала в 1-ю мировую войну. Восстановилась, и снова была разрушена до основания, во 2-ю мировую войну. Жаль немцев, сколько их погибло, молодых.. Пришлось служить в Gruppe der Sowjetischen Streitkräfte in Deutschland Лейпциг и Дрезден
А русских тебе не жалко? Или ты псевдорусский манкурт?
@@АракБобама
Россия создана лишь для того, чтобы все остальные страны, учились у нее, как не нужно жить
@@ВикторПряников-й4ц разделяй Россию на страну и государство. Надеюсь ты меня понял. Это государство я тоже мягко говоря не люблю. А люди и страна сами по себе прекрасны.
Сидели бы дома,а не лезли нах Остен,были бы живы!Нечего их жалеть,сами виноваты!
They're murderous SCUM
Удобрения сколько¡
Надеюсь что на Украине будет растрельные ямы окупантов
Своих похороните.