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I think you should start the 2x stats on a payload map because payload is so much harder for the top 500. They have to push payload and kill. Control point they just have to cap and they can pressure off point and still gain objective progress
@@noclipended no. I’ve noticed it in all the top 500 vids that the 2x are on CP maps and it’s a lot easier. 2x on a payload map i think would be better. Then maybe 1.5 on CP if they win first match
Jay 3 triad: "I don't like the Sym pick.", "They should just go to the point! THE POINT!!", "Oh, the bronze's doing the bronze thing... They are staggering themselves one by one..."
Because Sym most of time in these challenges is ass. She Relys on Getting to Full Power and Usually she just dies Before she can even charge her beam and there are Characters that can do her Job Way Better.... Like Mei.
I think the people saying that the bronze players arent bronze have prpbably forgotten that the bronze players are only playing against 1 player. Alot of aspects of the game are easier when you dont need to divide your attention between 5 opponents
The one big factor not controlled for in these is the game mode. You should do all control (easier for the GM->lower stats), or all payload (harder for the GM-> higher stats). Mixing the two makes it seem artificially like the stats are making the difference when, for example, I bet he would've failed 2x stats on payload. FWIW I'd say all capture point and lower stats would be more interesting, since the pure body advantage makes payload feel bad.
I’m relatively convinced the only bronzes in this video were the DPS. The tank and Supports were TOO aware and especially the Ana’s Sleeps and Grenades were wayyy too accurate, plus her positioning was pretty good. I say the tank is also smurfing because its like they knew their Ana was good, and spent the entire game only matrixing the Ana. Also with their Zen having the awareness to run and cap the point while the other four are fighting. Sus
I don't know about not being bronze but dps players tend to be the dumbest out of the three roles. If you have zero game sense or positioning as a tank or a support you're usually dead. And we did see the Zen keeping getting close even though he has no fall off damage.
you should consider doing these games on 1 map type. KoTH and to a lesser extent control points in general are way easier for a single player to cap/defend compared to escort. maybe let the top500 pick.
As a Reaper main, this character sucks. 10 second ability with 2 second casting time, half the time it fails because placement is so strange. This character needs something new.
@@user-tq7bf1zr7k imagine PvE mode and you upgrade his TP ability to the point that the cooldown is 2.5 seconds and casting time is 0.5 seconds. You'd almost become lore accurate reaper.
*FINALLY WE GET A REAPER 1V5 VIDEO* Lets goooo!!! Just the average 1v5 situations that basically every Reaper main has been through at least a couple times in their lifespan of Overwatch gameplay. This how we all feel Reaper should actually be in our mindset.
2x damage and 2x healing means that the self heal is quadroupelt, wich is really strong. A think a better match he would have, if you just put the heals to 1x and leave the rest on 2x
The thing with these is usually the tank is one of (if not the) biggest assets and choices for the bronze. On other heros, Orisa is usually a good play because her spear can shut down some very tricky abilities and she can stand toe to toe with the 500 and withstand them while the bronzes stack discord and damage. However in this case, the tank is actually one of the biggest detriments to the bronze team because theyre basically just a giant health pack, so the bronzes need to be able to melt the reaper BEFORE he gets crazy with the heals. Anti nade plus discord are definitely must picks here, but im honestly not even sure what tank would be a good pick here. Like DVA is okay with DM but as soon as it goes down shes just a giant crit spot. If she doesnt fall back
My favorite character is the reaper guy. he is very powerfull. special move, honestly is one of the best in the game and so he comes equipped with these two revolvers and only takes about 3 or 4 shots to actually execute a kill so it comes really in handy specially when you come from the side.
shes only banned for the bronze since its a 5v1 and it makes it hard for the t500 who fighting alone with hacked abilities and hacked health packs and stuff with no teamates to help
What sucks is in some of these, this one and the Lucio one off the top of my head, the Bronze players have no clue what they're doing round 1, and play a bad comp. Then once Jay nerfs the Top 500 player for Round 2, the Bronze players figure out the best comp AND Jay moves to Escort/Hybrid maps which are way harder for the Top 500 regardless of how buffed they are. So when they get buffed back up to 1.75x stats, it's still super hard.
It’s more fun to watch a character that doesn’t have to play around health packs. I’d like to see heroes in this series that don’t self heal get the support passive healing buff.
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I think there should be a ban system where you can choose a character from dps and tank to ban. Support doesn’t need a banned hero because I felt like it
Idea for J based off his comment.”my bronze’s could beat the other bronze players.” Maybe you get some of your fellow streamers to coach a group of bronze and have a elimination tournament.
The problem is the way reapers self heal works, the fact that he heals himself based on the damage he deals means that at 2x stats he technically has 4x self heal. His self heal is multiplied by both the dmg modifier and the healing modifier. So as the stats increase his self increases exponentially. 2x stats = 4x self heal 1.5x = 2.25x self heal 1.75x = 3.06x self heal At 2.5 stats he would have 6.25 self heal and at 5x he would have 25x self heal... I would love to see this one again but don't give him extra healing so the self is only affected by the dmg modifier.
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I do have a question, why does it look like that top 500 reaper has aimbot or something cause after he teleports he immediately locks onto someone
"I could do this by myself, probably faster to."
-Reaper
This is an objective fact here
Cold approach girls faster solo.
Holy I cant wait to see how 1 buffed top 500 would do in PVE game
who gon tell him? 💀
Don’t hurt me like this
Poor kid😫
Ugh. It burns. Stahp it!
Saaaame can't wait! It's the only reason why I play ow2. Can't wait until it's released :)
As a Reaper main from day one, OW1, im glad there's still a Reaper player holding it down for the rest of us
Fr tho
Especially with sniper meta
ChoiceOW is a fun to watch Reaper one trick imo but yeah I agree
you a clown bruh
Reaper is unfortunately not even top 10 dps but still maining since day 1
This is one of the few times where I agree that the players seemed a little better than bronze lol
let alone bronze players calling out 3 2 1. i aint never heard of no bronzes with them comms
Damn, this is such a good game. I wonder if there'd ever be a PvE campaign for it. That would be so cool!
They could have like hero ability progression and talent trees. A dedicated story mode thats replayable. That would be wild.
So many memorable voice lines to test and see what triggers them through variable choices of who to play as and alongside with
Cant wait to see characters expand their personality and interact with others in the pve!
yay i can't wait! i heard it's coming REALLY soon
@@TamWam_ SO SOON THAT THE WORLD WILL END BY THE TIME IT GETS RELEASED
I think you should start the 2x stats on a payload map because payload is so much harder for the top 500. They have to push payload and kill. Control point they just have to cap and they can pressure off point and still gain objective progress
first time watching?
@@noclipended no. I’ve noticed it in all the top 500 vids that the 2x are on CP maps and it’s a lot easier. 2x on a payload map i think would be better. Then maybe 1.5 on CP if they win first match
@@afterthedeciplebruv please don’t abbreviate Capture/control point like that
@@doubleeta56 what's wrong with calling it cp? I love cp
totally agree
why Jay3 changed map?
should compare in same map
Jay 3 triad:
"I don't like the Sym pick.",
"They should just go to the point! THE POINT!!",
"Oh, the bronze's doing the bronze thing... They are staggering themselves one by one..."
It's crazy how much we here that 1st line lmao because the other 2 are just expected to be heard in these videos
Don’t forget “They should go zen” on top of “I like the zen pick”
@@animeototo2120 That is justified though because a discord orb from Zen is huge in this game mode
Because Sym most of time in these challenges is ass.
She Relys on Getting to Full Power and Usually she just dies Before she can even charge her beam and there are Characters that can do her Job Way Better....
Like Mei.
@@Brandon-br7tcdiscord or is huge in every game mode😭
I think the people saying that the bronze players arent bronze have prpbably forgotten that the bronze players are only playing against 1 player. Alot of aspects of the game are easier when you dont need to divide your attention between 5 opponents
The one big factor not controlled for in these is the game mode. You should do all control (easier for the GM->lower stats), or all payload (harder for the GM-> higher stats). Mixing the two makes it seem artificially like the stats are making the difference when, for example, I bet he would've failed 2x stats on payload. FWIW I'd say all capture point and lower stats would be more interesting, since the pure body advantage makes payload feel bad.
Love the content as always Jay3! Thanks for coming up with this great series using that big brain of yours
emongg be like :👍
Damn just realised this was a recent recent upload, been starting to watch you a lot more and tbh it’s worth
3:34 The bastion got so angry he turned into the middle finger.
I’m relatively convinced the only bronzes in this video were the DPS. The tank and Supports were TOO aware and especially the Ana’s Sleeps and Grenades were wayyy too accurate, plus her positioning was pretty good. I say the tank is also smurfing because its like they knew their Ana was good, and spent the entire game only matrixing the Ana. Also with their Zen having the awareness to run and cap the point while the other four are fighting. Sus
I don't know about not being bronze but dps players tend to be the dumbest out of the three roles. If you have zero game sense or positioning as a tank or a support you're usually dead. And we did see the Zen keeping getting close even though he has no fall off damage.
Reaper vs ten is gonna be an interesting ult farm
That life steal is insane
Ana and Zen in these are always fun and interesting to watch
Day 4 of telling Jay: you can use tab to see the stats if you make it so you can only spectate one team
No one wants to spectate only 1 team.
@@justXsmokeXtrees agreed, Highkey the stupidest suggestion 🤡
he knows about it he did it in a recent stream, but this vid was streamed a while ago so he didnt know then
@@mtxearth2338 they mean to see stats, jay can temporarily switch to one team then swap back after looking at stats
@@mtxearth2338 I mean not that stupid as 55 people liked it but yeah I prefer to watch everyone
Nobody:
Jay3: I dont like the sym pick
taking out a extremamly rare situation, sym is basically never a good pick
@@Vinicius-zu3nx I know but it's just become a staple of every buffed top 500 video
Can someone explain how you can "build" this? I wanna make the challenge with my friends
You should do a mega buffed bronze vs 5 top 500
jay 3 bingo:
"i dont know about the sym pick"
" were are the comms/ no comms"
"dva pick"
"sub to youtube/twitch"
"duck"
*where 💀*
I was wondering why this video seems familiar then I realized I was watching the stream when this was happening.
Try 4 of Top 500 Genji vs **10** Bronze Players
you should consider doing these games on 1 map type. KoTH and to a lesser extent control points in general are way easier for a single player to cap/defend compared to escort. maybe let the top500 pick.
It alternates between the 2. Depends on who loses.
@@mage0534 it’s just boring to watch whenever dps does payload it always results in a gm loss
I don’t know how much I like the 2x health regen he literally never lost health because he regened more than the damage they were even putting off
Waiting for top 500 junkrat ❤
Aquamarine or kissmyjunk would be great
Vulture as welll
Saw it and it didn’t go well for Aqua, even with 3x stats
@@SleepyChonkyCat I’m assuming the comp was dva, ana zen, pharah and echo or smt
@@SleepyChonkyCat that was vs 10 bronzes tho and he went insane on anubis
Ahhh i cant wait to see what route this top 500 reaper will take in his talent tree 😊
15:16
Jay makes up a flattering chat comment about himself and still gets upset at it. He can't even imagine not being defensive towards chat lmao
The message is there in chat , what do you mean by this ?
Reaper remembered me to Malenia from elden ring xd
This gets me so hyped! I can't wait for the PvE game mode!
If the Ana let the zen volley the reaper it woulda been huge
Reaper's TP is so weird. I swear it has a mind of its own. It absolutely does not care what you tell it to do, it'll do what it likes.
As a Reaper main, this character sucks. 10 second ability with 2 second casting time, half the time it fails because placement is so strange. This character needs something new.
@@user-tq7bf1zr7k imagine PvE mode and you upgrade his TP ability to the point that the cooldown is 2.5 seconds and casting time is 0.5 seconds. You'd almost become lore accurate reaper.
@@ymahtab Yeah, keyword is imagine.
*FINALLY WE GET A REAPER 1V5 VIDEO*
Lets goooo!!!
Just the average 1v5 situations that basically every Reaper main has been through at least a couple times in their lifespan of Overwatch gameplay. This how we all feel Reaper should actually be in our mindset.
Man I love this game, They should definetly add PVE to this! Talent trees and replayability would be awesome!!
amazing, cant wait to see 1 bronze buffed vs 5 top 500
For specialized characters like reaper I feel like it's less about the stats and more about the map pick, lol
2x damage and 2x healing means that the self heal is quadroupelt, wich is really strong. A think a better match he would have, if you just put the heals to 1x and leave the rest on 2x
"I could do this alone, probably faster too"
I was hoping for Choice as Reaper :(
He is the funniest Reeba guy out there
Jay 3 when he does a top 500 sym. “I don’t like the sym pick”
Well the problem is lower people don't use matrix on DVa, idk how many I've seen just never matrix
Smart to make the first adjustment .5 instead of .25, guarantees a game 3
I was looking for reaper vs bronze players yesterday
The thing with these is usually the tank is one of (if not the) biggest assets and choices for the bronze. On other heros, Orisa is usually a good play because her spear can shut down some very tricky abilities and she can stand toe to toe with the 500 and withstand them while the bronzes stack discord and damage. However in this case, the tank is actually one of the biggest detriments to the bronze team because theyre basically just a giant health pack, so the bronzes need to be able to melt the reaper BEFORE he gets crazy with the heals. Anti nade plus discord are definitely must picks here, but im honestly not even sure what tank would be a good pick here. Like DVA is okay with DM but as soon as it goes down shes just a giant crit spot. If she doesnt fall back
My favorite character is the reaper guy. he is very powerfull. special move, honestly is one of the best in the game and so he comes equipped with these two revolvers and only takes about 3 or 4 shots to actually execute a kill so it comes really in handy specially when you come from the side.
man I ran into a reaper in quickplay with this name... Now this makes sense
You think you could do something involving comms? Like 5 golds using comms against 5 diamonds with no comms allowed? Comms being voice and text.
3:53 okay master yoda
Is his self healing 4x on 2x stats?
Cause double dmg on self heal plus the healing buff
Bro I am so glad you made this video😭
Just curious why is sombra banned in all these? Its probaly been said somewhere but atm I'm just confused
You should do kenzo vs 5 bronzes
I need to pull up to the live, also, what happens for the t500 sombra episode when she's banned?
shes only banned for the bronze since its a 5v1 and it makes it hard for the t500 who fighting alone with hacked abilities and hacked health packs and stuff with no teamates to help
whenever you do 1 top 500 vs 5 silvers, is it possible to get frogger for lucio?
Holy shit, this is way better here then on twitch:o
What sucks is in some of these, this one and the Lucio one off the top of my head, the Bronze players have no clue what they're doing round 1, and play a bad comp. Then once Jay nerfs the Top 500 player for Round 2, the Bronze players figure out the best comp AND Jay moves to Escort/Hybrid maps which are way harder for the Top 500 regardless of how buffed they are. So when they get buffed back up to 1.75x stats, it's still super hard.
reaper in the lore be like
The reaper mains shall rise again
I was WAITING for this
damn jay really is that guy
It’s more fun to watch a character that doesn’t have to play around health packs. I’d like to see heroes in this series that don’t self heal get the support passive healing buff.
Even after the unfortunate reminder that Blizzard has once again failed at doing the smallest requirement to make the fan base happy, Jay3 still delivers.
Always saw you promote to watch on twitch.
By the time you live, ive already sleep, lol.
I think there should be a ban system where you can choose a character from dps and tank to ban. Support doesn’t need a banned hero because I felt like it
17:21 😂
3:59 the fuckin skill it takes to do a perfect 180 like that... my god
lore accurate reaper
jay you should do 5 top 500 vs 5 owl
Reapers get so much health because it getting buffed by his damage and his healing received, because his healing is based on a %of his damage dealt
can someone explain how every time he teleports he just snap his aim almost 180? for example here 10:25
What if you're in bronze and think that keeping up the defense matrix seems hard for your tanks?
Idea for J based off his comment.”my bronze’s could beat the other bronze players.” Maybe you get some of your fellow streamers to coach a group of bronze and have a elimination tournament.
Ohh Snap didn't expect Reaper.
I wonder who's Coming Next on the challenge?
The problem is the way reapers self heal works, the fact that he heals himself based on the damage he deals means that at 2x stats he technically has 4x self heal. His self heal is multiplied by both the dmg modifier and the healing modifier. So as the stats increase his self increases exponentially.
2x stats = 4x self heal
1.5x = 2.25x self heal
1.75x = 3.06x self heal
At 2.5 stats he would have 6.25 self heal and at 5x he would have 25x self heal...
I would love to see this one again but don't give him extra healing so the self is only affected by the dmg modifier.
bruh jay printing money on these rn
bros holding the duck hostage
They might have to get me in there if this reaper keeps healing
Wow this is better on yt
Damn jay looks so big and strong lately
That Ana seemed better than Bronze. Her sleep and nade timing were pretty good.
What happens when you run out of characters on the roster
He said he’ll restart but with silver
Then it's 1 gigabuffed bronze vs 5 gms
I wanna see arrge do one of these that’d be such a good video
He did
you need to add one helper to push the payload
when is wanted coming w the 1 buffed top 500 mccree against 5 bronze players?
This is so much better on UA-cam tbh
Are you going to do the same with console players?
little unknown fact abt reaper his teleport also acts as a clense
You Sir created a monster 🥲 😆
Wait doesn’t Reaper have 4 times the healing when shooting? 2x Damage AND 2x Healing + Self Healing?
I don't know if that stats matter as much as the goal of the game. The Top 500s tend to win control and lose the cart pushes.
One day jay will like a sym pick
*Asks stevoo to do a buffed sym vid*
"Chat, I don't like the sym pic. Thoughts?"
mei would have totally been the play here. sustain and the ability to block pathways to healthpacks even when he is in wraith form
this looks like my reaper game play fr fr
Sad to think that Five on One fights will be the height of future Overwatch content.
The Anna is definitely not a Bronze. lol How did jay not call that out
Caffeine is BACK!!!
That first game is how every reaper main sees themselves as; the grim reaper himself.
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Only to die
the badest mistake was ulting on dvas matrix
this literaly looks like spectating cheaters bro has some crazy flicks