Hi Riej, very good video, thank you for taking the time to do all this tests. I had an external SSD from Crucial just like yours, and after few months of use, it started to disconnect from my mac, and now I can't copy the files from it. When I connect it, I can see the folders, but when I want to copy something it automatically ejects... I also got an enclosure from Yottamaster with fan, but because of the noise, I took out the fan and made some improvisation for pasive cooling. Just as you say, we have this nice macs, that make no noise and we get this little enclosures and make a big noise, not ok...
Sorry about your Crucial drive giving you issues, I haven’t had any sort of issues on mine. If it’s still in warranty, you might be able to get Crucial to help check it out. And on your second point, I agree, what’s the point of having a quiet Mac to then plug in a loud SSD enclosure?
@RiejWoode I still hope some company will find a way to make a quiet enclosure, with or without fan. I saw some brands making thunderbolt 5, but the prices on that... I am working soon on a video about Flash based NAS from Qnap, but the speeds on that is about 1500 MB, but it's still loud, it has 3 fans.
I tried out the other larger Ugreen and OWZ, but I ended up returning the Ugreen because of the annoying fan noise. The M4 has a fan, but it’s surprisingly quiet. I also have a M2 Air that’s completely fan-less, so I can’t stand anything with a fan these days. I also tested the temperature, the bigger heatsink is even better than the fan.
Yeah, the fan noice on the Ugreen was quite annoying. The OWS is like the best one to get though innit, I just couldn’t justify paying almost the same price as the SSD for it.
@RiejWoode I know it’s a bit pricey, but I’m putting my home folder there, so I need the one that can do the job. I wish I could share the pics here, I even bought another small piece of aluminum to cool it down even more. Without that, it was around 10x degrees Fahrenheit with 60 minutes into Blackmagic testing, and 9x degrees Fahrenheit with the extra aluminum.
Yeah, I’ve heard only good things about it and the reviews on Amazon all seem great. That’s basically the design that most of these other companies copied. I just had a limited budget.
Hi, could you do a proper test review with data based results? It will make you stand out and grow your channel even faster vs everyone else doing the same type spec sheet reading reviews. 1. What is the idle watt power use? 2. What is the stress test power use? 3. What is the heat at Idle set at different times like 30 mins, 1hr, etc? 4. What is the heat during a 2-3 hr stress test? 5. What is throttling like and if it does throttle after a stress test? 6. Does the Enclosure properly sleep when Mac is in sleep mode? 7. How much power does it use in sleep mode? 8. Does it wake up properly or does it disconnect after several Wake / Sleep cycles on Mac? 9. Was there any disconnections during use? I know a proper review like this without all the fancy camera angles will take a few days to test properly and all UA-camrs just want a quick easy view count video that the manufacturer pays for but you could be different as you are just starting out.
To do Video editing how fast is good enough? I down a very Complex Davinci Project File with 4 time lines and is said it would take 2 days to render on my ASUS 5 year old Gaming Laptop.w/ Studio. Purcaced an M4 Mac Mini and a 2TB 4GB/s SSD enclosure. That said each Time line would be in the 20 Minute range. So in a Complex Time line what Does a Faster Drive make as to the CPU/GPU able to process the video. You really want to gain Editing Speed/Time By 2 M4 Mac Minis and use one as a Remote Render Machine and keep editing on the 1st M4 Mac while the other Renders your other Project.
Yeah the internal storage on current Mac’s are already really fast but ridiculously priced, basically extortionate. So I think the benefit of NVMe’s in fast enclosures is extra fast storage space (sometimes even slightly faster like in my case) for a fraction of what Apple sells them for. What you’re suggesting might be good for video editors that are constantly churning out videos for big channels or productions but for the average Joe like me, that isn’t necessary as after a big edit like that I’d probably take a break, grab a coffee or something and leave it to render. It’s certainly a great idea though!
@RiejWoode Your are right about taking a coffee break. In Davinci one could Render several Time lines all at ounce Over Night if Necessary. The must for Fast external storgy would be so your Time doesn't get LAGGY. Think I'll Sub U have an awesome day.
The bottom neck of the TB4/USB4 is a 40gbps connection, unless you have the M4 Pro with a super expensive TB5 enclosure which is not worth it. I had the Mac’s home folder on the USB-C 10gbps drive with a Crucial 2TB SSD. I can’t seem to tell if it’s faster with the OWC TB4. For most office and home users, a 2.5” SSD with USB-C 10Gbps is more than sufficient. However, if you have the budget, I highly recommend the TB4 with 2TB+ NVMe. It’s a great choice!
Which enclosure will you be picking up?
Hi Riej, very good video, thank you for taking the time to do all this tests. I had an external SSD from Crucial just like yours, and after few months of use, it started to disconnect from my mac, and now I can't copy the files from it. When I connect it, I can see the folders, but when I want to copy something it automatically ejects...
I also got an enclosure from Yottamaster with fan, but because of the noise, I took out the fan and made some improvisation for pasive cooling. Just as you say, we have this nice macs, that make no noise and we get this little enclosures and make a big noise, not ok...
Sorry about your Crucial drive giving you issues, I haven’t had any sort of issues on mine. If it’s still in warranty, you might be able to get Crucial to help check it out.
And on your second point, I agree, what’s the point of having a quiet Mac to then plug in a loud SSD enclosure?
@RiejWoode I still hope some company will find a way to make a quiet enclosure, with or without fan. I saw some brands making thunderbolt 5, but the prices on that...
I am working soon on a video about Flash based NAS from Qnap, but the speeds on that is about 1500 MB, but it's still loud, it has 3 fans.
I tried out the other larger Ugreen and OWZ, but I ended up returning the Ugreen because of the annoying fan noise. The M4 has a fan, but it’s surprisingly quiet. I also have a M2 Air that’s completely fan-less, so I can’t stand anything with a fan these days.
I also tested the temperature, the bigger heatsink is even better than the fan.
Yeah, the fan noice on the Ugreen was quite annoying. The OWS is like the best one to get though innit, I just couldn’t justify paying almost the same price as the SSD for it.
@RiejWoode I know it’s a bit pricey, but I’m putting my home folder there, so I need the one that can do the job. I wish I could share the pics here, I even bought another small piece of aluminum to cool it down even more. Without that, it was around 10x degrees Fahrenheit with 60 minutes into Blackmagic testing, and 9x degrees Fahrenheit with the extra aluminum.
Yeah, I’ve heard only good things about it and the reviews on Amazon all seem great. That’s basically the design that most of these other companies copied.
I just had a limited budget.
Hi, could you do a proper test review with data based results? It will make you stand out and grow your channel even faster vs everyone else doing the same type spec sheet reading reviews.
1. What is the idle watt power use?
2. What is the stress test power use?
3. What is the heat at Idle set at different times like 30 mins, 1hr, etc?
4. What is the heat during a 2-3 hr stress test?
5. What is throttling like and if it does throttle after a stress test?
6. Does the Enclosure properly sleep when Mac is in sleep mode?
7. How much power does it use in sleep mode?
8. Does it wake up properly or does it disconnect after several Wake / Sleep cycles on Mac?
9. Was there any disconnections during use?
I know a proper review like this without all the fancy camera angles will take a few days to test properly and all UA-camrs just want a quick easy view count video that the manufacturer pays for but you could be different as you are just starting out.
Sure
When it’s a capital B it’s mega or giga bytes per second, not bits.
Cheers mate, my bad, I always get them confused.
@RiejWoode all good! Big difference :)
To do Video editing how fast is good enough? I down a very Complex Davinci Project File with 4 time lines and is said it would take 2 days to render on my ASUS 5 year old Gaming Laptop.w/ Studio. Purcaced an M4 Mac Mini and a 2TB 4GB/s SSD enclosure. That said each Time line would be in the 20 Minute range. So in a Complex Time line what Does a Faster Drive make as to the CPU/GPU able to process the video. You really want to gain Editing Speed/Time By 2 M4 Mac Minis and use one as a Remote Render Machine and keep editing on the 1st M4 Mac while the other Renders your other Project.
Yeah the internal storage on current Mac’s are already really fast but ridiculously priced, basically extortionate.
So I think the benefit of NVMe’s in fast enclosures is extra fast storage space (sometimes even slightly faster like in my case) for a fraction of what Apple sells them for.
What you’re suggesting might be good for video editors that are constantly churning out videos for big channels or productions but for the average Joe like me, that isn’t necessary as after a big edit like that I’d probably take a break, grab a coffee or something and leave it to render. It’s certainly a great idea though!
@RiejWoode Your are right about taking a coffee break. In Davinci one could Render several Time lines all at ounce Over Night if Necessary. The must for Fast external storgy would be so your Time doesn't get LAGGY. Think I'll Sub U have an awesome day.
nice one! but just curious, i wonder what the read and write speeds be if im using NV3
PCle 4.0 NVMe M.2 which claims to be up to 6000mb/s
The bottom neck of the TB4/USB4 is a 40gbps connection, unless you have the M4 Pro with a super expensive TB5 enclosure which is not worth it.
I had the Mac’s home folder on the USB-C 10gbps drive with a Crucial 2TB SSD. I can’t seem to tell if it’s faster with the OWC TB4.
For most office and home users, a 2.5” SSD with USB-C 10Gbps is more than sufficient. However, if you have the budget, I highly recommend the TB4 with 2TB+ NVMe. It’s a great choice!
@ got it! thanks for your detailed explanation! 🫡
What he said😅