Bambu Lab P1S vs X1C Differences - Which is Better Choice?
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2025
- In this video, I'll compare the Bambu Lab P1S and X1C to help you decide which 3D printer suits your needs best. Join me as I break down the features, performance, and value of each model. This is perfect for 3D printing enthusiasts and anyone looking to make an informed purchase. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more helpful comparisons and reviews!
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There are some other features of the X1C not mentioned or at least not focused on.
1. With the AMS and using the lidar you can calibrate up to 4 filaments at a time. This sets k values automatically. (flow rate and flow dynamics)
You can run similar checks but it is a manual affair on the p series and since you are eyeing it is may not be nearly as precise as the lidar.
2. The X1c screen is leagues beyond the p1s screen. And with that you can run the X1+ custom firmware. So the mobo/screen on the X1C handles more processing work than the anemic p1.
3. You can FTP into the printer to pull video/timelapse, send over files over a network. It can be done on the P/A series but it is much slower. This is great for those who dont want to remove memory cards or want to disconnect from the bambu cloud.
4. The higher end camera is 24fps at 1080 vs 720 p at .05fps, it's the difference between a video and a slide show. Also if you create content recording full video and not just time-lapse is a night and day difference
5. Max bed temp is higher on the X1C (110 vs 100)
Since I started with the X1C it's hard to look at the p1 series since a lot of the QOL features end up being lost completely or require more steps to get to parity. (like updating extruder and hot end Metal panels vs plastic, adding carbon air filter and then there are things that can never be added to reach the same feature set. lidar, camera, touchscreen, custom firmware, max bed temp
Thanks for your review! Im deciding between p1s o x1carbon for my print farm. I was considering going for p1s to get more machines but it seems like x1c is the one for printing farms
@@solosequenosenada7096 Hmm, if you are going the farm route I would ask what your are printing. If you are doing pla/petg/tpu
p1s or even A1 can be fine.
If you are going with ABS/PC/nylon or any exotic materials then p1s or X1C. The p1s will need to be upgraded with hardened extruder and nozzle to prolong some parts. Also if you are printing abrasives on a regular basis stock up on ptfe tubes and the AMS will get torn up with abrasives.
In a farm environment the screen, auto calibrations and such may not matter that much if you use the same filament and settings. So you may need to tune a few times and be set going forward if you limit print variables.
So if you want flagship go X1C(1200 or 1450) and want to not compromise on anything.
if you are looking for farms and need an enclosure x1c or p1s(600 or 950)
if you are printing basic materials go p1p (500) or A1(339 or 389)
I always look at farms in this fashion what is the most cost effective way to get out parts without compromises. faster camera, lidar, better screen etc, the 500-600 price gap is another machine which is a hit to productivity.
The P1S can print just as well as an X1C. it's the QOL features that make it better but if you are churning out parts an individual machine features may not be better than getting 2 machines for the price.
external Smart cameras exist for monitoring
panda touch can manage 10 bambu machines with a similar touch screen as the X1C. The biggest issue is printer firmware may stop it from working. so YMMV. You also have the option of a smart phone/ tablet
It's the lidar and auto calibrations that are left which you can tune manually and setup profiles in bambu studio or orca slicer.
@@personwomanmancameratelevision Thank you very much for taking the time to give me this information! Going to go for the X1C for personal use, prototyping and will start adding P1S and A1s to the farm
I've been running a P1S for a year. It's been virtually trouble free with occasional issues with the more exotic filaments and some minor disappointment with AMS. I had some bed adhesion problems early on with Bambu labs own carbon fiber filaments but that was easily resolved by using a smooth plate with glue stick. My biggest issue with AMS is all the purge cycling as it can triple the print time and wastes a lot of filament. I'm also experiencing a new problem with their specialized support filament for use with their carbon fiber filaments. It worked fine for several prints when I first got it but I hadn't used it for 6 months and now it won't print without stringing and contaminating my part. I tried drying it but it didn't help at all. I'm starting to wonder if the filament just goes bad. I was considering going to a Prusa XL with dual print heads but that's $2500 and Prusa charges almost $200 for shipping to the states. I'm kinda tempted to just move to the X1C for it's supposed better performance with the niche filaments.
@@RYTHMICRIOTas time goes on Filament absorbs moisture which makes it virtually unusable. I keep all my filaments in a plastic bag with those white pouches that come with electronics. It is completely normal for old left out filament to do that
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:40 *🏗️ X1C features a touchscreen, better camera, and aluminum enclosure, enhancing usability and durability.*
01:48 *🕵️ X1C's advanced air detection and calibration features improve print reliability and early error detection.*
02:45 *🎨 X1C's hardened nozzle and gears enable printing with abrasive materials, ideal for functional prototypes and specialized creations.*
03:41 *💼 P1S is designed for ease of use with standard materials like PLA and ABS, suitable for hobbyists and educators.*
04:22 *💰 Consider budget and intended material use: X1C excels with advanced features, while P1S offers cost-effective reliability for everyday projects.*
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I'd like to see the differences with engineering filaments like nylon, etc. I also wonder if the hotter bed of the X1C provides an advantage.
you can change the extruder and the hot end so no problem for the p1S
even with max bed temp of 100?
@@jamierichards925 yes of course , and you can also dry your filament like the X1C except you need to add a timer on your phone or anything else
@@skynlab2478 oh OK I thought some needed temps of like 110 etc to print but that's good to know
@@jamierichards925 there is lot of marketing specs on the x1c but the p1s can easily fight against the x1c
Is it judicious to get only the hardened steel nozzle or the complet hotend and which size do you advice getting beside the 0,4 mm:0,6 or 0,8 mm ? Thanks in advance
I started with an ender 3 and got an x1c over a year ago. I think I'm too spoiled to get anything different now.
Very nice video! This is a great summary of how I made the decision to purchase the P1S. I spent weeks of watching videos and researching to get this very information. I went with the P1S because the only main difference was the AI lidar stuff which with the reliability and my OCD to always check the first layer myself anyway was not worth it. If I need a hardened steel nozzle and stronger gear system I can always purchase it down the road but right now I'm just printing PLA and TPU with an interest in ABS soon. Thanks for this video and it will help people like myself make an informed decision when purchasing a 3d printer
Gave me the exact information I needed to finally pull the trigger on a P1S. All I use is PLA and I wanted to use ABS and ASA, so this one seems like what I need to move on from my Anycubic Kobra Plus (not a good experience, personally. After buying 3 machines I decided to finally look at better quality printers)
How has your experience been since buying the P1S?
@@dillonohrt1903 It's night and day difference. I actually went with a P1P because I didn't see a need for the enclosure, but you can print out something to hold carbon filter over the exhaust fan in a P1S. Fortunately the upgrade kit is available and it even says P1S on the part, so it's not just upgrading components, but actually turning your P1P into a P1S. PLA and PETGHF (the bambu lab PETG) are both equally easy to print. I've run through half a dozen spools already and that's with a lot of down time. This thing is fast than the bed slingers I've bought in the past. The calibration needed is built in. I can calibrate from the app to zero in on a filament and layer lines are less noticeable. Everything is good out of the box. I had a few screws to remove, I leveled the bed and calibrated the filament and started printing perfectly. Models with printed screws or tight tolerances have been no threat.
Tinkering with devices is definitely a cool hobby, but I always wanted to just print. I've since given my old printers that didn't work to a neighbor because he wanted to tinker and now I'm planning to get an enclosure kit for my P1P and buy a second P1S. Being able to just print and not worry too much has been game changing. There are still small problems sometimes. I had filament cross over itself and cause problems. The WiFi module needed to be reseated after I notice a loss of WiFi connectivity, but I'm ordering a spare and it was only $4.99 usd. The parts are mainly found on their site, but they're all easy to replace and decently priced.
I'd highly suggest going with them.
Ive been mulling it over for a long time qnd since budget is no more than a "do i order it next week, or do i have to wait 2 weeks to order" question, i think ill just wait 2 weeks and get the tesla...
Do you know if I can I buy the touch screen for the P1S..?
Yes you can purchase a coloured touch screen for the P-1S.Bigtreetech makes the Panda Touch that is compatible with the Bambu Lab P1P,P1S,X1C,X1E,A1 and A1 Mini.
Why does this whole video sound like an ad?
Because it is.
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Because it is 99% manufacturer provided B-roll video and 100% manufacturer provided copy being read by "just an enthusiast" ? What do you expect from a channel named "3d Print Dud" ? Hopefully my first and last visit to this lame a$$ channel.
Slice Engineering just released their Mako hotend for the Bambu Labs machine. That opens up a lot of quick change nozzle options - nozzles from Slice, Microswiss and others can quickly be installed without tearing the hot end apart.
I saw that, and I know they worked with Bambu on the Mako, and they're boasting crazy print speeds with that hotend, but I haven't seen anything about reliability versus stock. I would be interested to hear from someone who has used a Mako (or similar) hotend on an X1C.
How is it important for advance users to value the out of the box harden nozzle for more materials? It takes a few minutes to change that head.
Should I pull the trigger on an X1C right now? Or do you think they are gonna release a new model soon? Thanks 🙏
The perennial question
They did announce they will release a new printer in Q1 2025 but they mentioned it would be a Prosumer Printer, above the X1C. So cost wise it should be above $1500 and targeted towards more Pro users. X1C is not a bad choice plus they extended the firmware support to i believe 2027
Maybe we should talk about how to upgrade the cheaper unit cost comparison
This is such a well made video. Interesting clips, and an honest review. Obviously the X1C is "better", it has some great unique features to make printing much easier, but is it "necessary" to most users? No, the P1S is great for most people, and is a solid machine. Thanks so much, this helped me make my decision, great work!!
Yeah thats the point, X1C is just nice to have when you have extra money to spend
It’s a difficult choice, but I guess that the processing power of the x1c makes the biggest difference. It opens up more possibilities for firmware enhancements to improve quality. That being said it’s an old printer by now. I have an i3mega which I bought in 2017 and is still holding up fine for my needs , but hey it’s 7 years old and technology advances, so it’s time to upgrade.
so the P1S can't accept a hardened nozzle? I feel like so many things were skipped in this video. lol
Just order one and replace it in minutes
I believe it just doenst come with one. You can upgrade it.
If only Bambu would make a 300 (at least) or 350mm3 "XL"1-Carbon, I'd be the first to buy it. I can't justify the cost and size of the X1C against the A1. Need a printer with both advanced materials and a larger build volume. Knowing the relatively "lame" A1 has the same build volume feels like a bummer. Come on Bambu..
Hello new subscriber here and trying to decide on the Bambu P1S v X1C. I own a laser business and want to add a 3D printer to add to my earrings I sale , really the main thing I want it for . I do like the dragons and Dragon Eggs as well😊. Also I was going to set this up in my Office space and was told PLA doesn’t need vented but PLA was not a good material for Earrings because it won’t hold up in the heat . What do you recommend for earrings and like items and your views on venting a 3 d printer . Sorry for the long comment , enjoyed your video , thanks in advance
Any ideas or help on how to use the control screen for the P1S. I am having major problems using the screen.
You can use the Bambu handy app on your phone, The screen on the printer (P1S) can be laggy.
@@Denniss7420 i can't pair the H/app with my P1S it prints great with BL Studios but not H/app it shows pair number on both phone and screen but nothing happens
I chose X1C. Thanks
Good choice!
at the end of the day the x1c is my choice mainly because of the screen. it makes dealing with the ams so easy i just feel that i would regret not having it later down the road.
Bad software and firmware = bad experience.
Latest firmware update bricking AMS units.
Unable to use the send to function in LAN only mode, means transfer only by file copy to and from SD card.
Cloud outages.
Bambu really need to get their act together.
Hardware seems to be top of its class.
Are you just repeating one paragraph over and over with a bit differently wording?
Many comments from others suggests the AI doesn't work properly.
I highly suggest you get a better mic for your videos. The sound quality can either make or break a video.
That's all you got? Holy crap. Why have you consumed bandwidth with this anemic, voice over of a company promo vid that we have already cringed through.
You didn't say the best alone of them
❤❤good
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ToP!
love your vid. keep up the good work, shout me out if you want i have a passion for fpv drones photgraphy and videograpy and im also going to be buying the bambu P1s combo.
SPOILER: Nothing worth watching. Lame video that seems like it was filmed and scripted by the manufacturer and presented by somebody's loser brother-in-law. (allegedly)
Naaaahhh it's X1E!
X1E been discontinued by bambu lab store.
@@Andy-js5jy it's never been there