Does My Daddy Hate Me Because I'm Not His? | KARAMO
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Ricardo says his relationship with his dad, Horace, has always been complicated, especially because Ricardo is gay. Horace says he was a young father and he supports his son but there's only so much disrespect a father can accept from his child. Ricardo is demanding a DNA test because he feels like maybe this man doesn't love him because they're not really related. Can Karamo help this father and son move forward?
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“Cut the show, take me off” I don’t mean to laugh but that took me outttt 😭😭
Drama queen ahh 😂😂😂😂
He should got up & walk off
Me too😂😂😂
Dramatic asf 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMFAOOOO
The son needs therapy. He’s traumatized and seems to have a lot of anxiety around abandonment from his parents. His feelings are valid and understandable. However this is likely C-PTSD. It can’t be resolved over the timeframe of a talk show. He wants his father to “ unbreak his heart “. That’s not going to happen. He needs to heal himself with therapy. EMDR might be extremely helpful for him.
Exactly. You can see him get triggered at the end.
The father is going around telling ppl about his sons HIV status… THATS THE REAL ISSUE THAT THEY BLEEPED OUT. the dad even told the entire audience without a single apology. The son needs to walk away.
We are all someone child so if that's the case everyone is a child but these are excuses that man is disrespectful his dad kept telling him no son let not put your business out there u can't get insurance and what did that grown child do tell the world he a hypocrite that cheats on his wife so his dad told the world why he can't get the insurance under his name his dad sat there quietly but his child is mad at the world sometimes that's not the person fault that's getting disrespected just like when women get with men that abuse them it's not they fault they get beat on because the abuser say it is that's a person that wants 2 blame anyone 4 pain as a parent u shouldn't have 2 walk away in your house when a 34 year old child disrespecting him I honestly feel like it's the son out of 11 kids he the only one with the problem that man don't care about him being gay it's the best way he acting while he is gay and the choices we don't know what his son has done but what I seen was a father that just sat there and just listen and the sun still was mad
@@leondasmith7185 your one making excuses him, he's a grown man, and why are u telling your sons sex life wtf
He’s feminine
I know it doesn't seem like it, but I believe that father and son will resolve this. The fact that the father came to the show is a sign that he wants to help heal their relationship. Sending them both prayers.
They cut the part where the dad told the audience his son is hiv positive that’s why the sons upset
@@oloveaklove6576THANK YOU!!!!!! people really have selective hearing.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. There is so much love there but it is manifesting itself in hurt and pain
@@oloveaklove6576you seen that part?? Where?
That's some serious daddy issues bruh. He didn't come for resolution, he came there to try and humiliate his father. Some people you have to love from a distance.
Exactly
💯💯 I literally just commented this
You sholl Lawd do.❤
Yeap absolutely 💯
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He was a child himself trying to do the best he can. Unlike so many men, he stepped up and did the best he could. He was a child. Give him grace.
I agree he isn’t giving his father any grace as a man
no excuses. his best wasn't good enough. they wanted the pleasure but then they play the young dumb card when ish gets real and somebody ends up pregnant.
@@adamknight1387 nobody is perfect. His father's parents failed him, that's the only way a 16 year old ends up with 3 children. If you don't wanna deal with him he could've cried and blocked him at home, not make an ass out of himself on TV.
@@markydan1232 if you have 3 kids at 16 that is your fault. everybody wants to do whatever they want but they point the finger at someone else when they get the predictable bad result.
I agree with you. I said the same thing.
Maybe they skipped some parts, but dad seems like he's willing to try to mend the relationship, but the son is not. Why go on the show if you are not willing to work on things.
exactly a lot of parents don't give care to do that because you are grown and now they do not have to deal with you
They didn’t include the 5 minute preview part in this segment. I watched it earlier today. Him and his father got into an argument on stage and that’s why the son shut down. The father said something that was beeped out.
They skipped something! We missed what happened!
I think he just went for the paternity test, not necessarily to mend the relationship. The son thinks that the father treats him different from his siblings due to the lack of a biological relationship. But as we can see, that's not the case.
The son has a horrible attitude. Now I don't know if they didn't show some parts but he does have a smart ass mouth. He couldn't even let Karamo talk
Cut the show 😂😂😂😂 he really thought they was gonna cut it
I feel like the pain stems more from the absence of his mom but he blames the dad for his issues because he’s there…happens to moms also when dad is absent
Yeap 💯
Lady!!! Your sooo RIGHT!! Why is he not giving this much smoke to mom!! ??Yes she’s not there but that should speak more volume!!
Just like most
Feminine man for him to have all this emotional energy for his father who is there for him he trying to project all of his energy on his father and totally leave the mother out the picture
Karamo needs to hold the son accountable as well.
Hard to hold someone accountable who is having a breakdown right in front of you. Timing matters.
@@TasteMyRainb0wthat's an excuse
When it comes to people in LBGT communities he doesn't hold them responsible.
@tamekawallace5608, is the son an LGBTQ member?
@@tamekawallace5608that’s not true at all please fix the hate in your heart
Everytime he kept saying "im good" or "i dont want it", he was really saying "im not good" & "i do want it" He's crying out even if hes saying the opposite. Poor guy, i feel deeply for him.
Let’s be honest everyone’s here for @ 11:56 lol
Oh man..... just cut and take me off of yt....
Karamo is a true professional and I really hope his show runs for many seasons.
Thank God it didn't.
For a man in his 30s to consider 40s “older” he is doomed .
Wat do u mean?? A person in their 40s is older than a person in their 30s
@@quintavierdrummond2754 he isn’t much younger if he has that perspective . He will be old in a few years if that is his outlook.
@@quintavierdrummond2754Based on what he said about his grandmother 's age and to his own age
@@quintavierdrummond2754he used it to describe grandma’s age. A grandma in her 40s wouldn’t be an “older” grandma, that’s actually on a younger side for a grandparent.
40s is older than 30
I’m sorry but he is a good father, imagine how rare it is for a man to have two kids by the age of 16 and step up to the plate. He literally was a child trying to take care of his children the best he could. My heart goes out to both of them ❤️❤️
That's what he was supposed to do....
@@tranquilshorestravelagency9641 but a lot of men don’t…
@@tranquilshorestravelagency9641right wtf ppl need to get their standards up
He chose to have those kids. ELEVEN IN FACT. He did what he was supposed to do therefore he needs absolutely no praise.
@jayleneturner1200 Nobody gave him praise, it's a matter of fact that he stepped up when it was his time. I can't even begin to tell you all the dumb shit I did when I was 16. Had he been given the responsibility of 3 kids at 16 he would've been incarcerated before he turned 18. Grandma stepped up and did the right thing.
The son need to heal himself..
That boy is foolish to think a daddy at 16 is mature enough to have all the answers.
That part
Because his father was still a child himself
I understand what you mean, but a baby is not bothered about the age of their parents: As the baby grows up, the parent becomes that all wise, all protective figure. The age only becomes relevant when we see our parents failing to do the things they used to do when we were younger.
Isn't it also just as foolish to have kids (3 kids to be exact) at 16? Let's not be one sided about this
He had to grow up
Karamo missed it on this one…..Dad hardly said anything. Son is extremely dramatic and came on the show knowing he didn’t want to work on anything. He’ll regret it.
I think he saw how his dad was actually doing a good job of explaining his side and son shut down 😅
Dad went left on the other clip tho when he blurted out his son’s personal business.
@@jalysahenry9288 what personal business ?
@@jalysahenry9288but did he not tell his son to lets not go there 3 times. After son already blurted out he cheated on his wife for no reason. He did the parent part of telling him to chill out let not go there
He sounds like a spoiled brat!!! I believe his father did what he could with what he had. He's a drama Queen!!
Yeah he's still acting like a child
Bc he’s trying to heal the inner child that never got healed ‼️‼️‼️‼️
How does a child who grew up without a father and mother present be spoiled? Hurt, abandoned children, grow into hurt adults with abandonment issues. I have seen too many hurt adults on this show who have had traumatic childhood experiences and they never had the therapy to help them heal. Walk a mile in a man’s shoes before you judge him.
So he wanted a DNA test not the dad and the dad was actually offended.... not saying he's innocent but the boy is the biggest issue imo.. wasnt expecting dad to act this way
The son made himself look bad!!!
The father was not away in jail, selling drugs, or running the streets. He was away for his career. Please give this man some grace!
My boy got a little more than Daddy issues IMO 🤷🏾♀️
he has to be a cancer.
Karamo should put some stronger responsibility on this young man...I could not put a handle on this situation...something was left out
@@pansieximines4354 yes because I'm confused about the breakdown at the end
He does. It so much shit that really goes into this family that it would blow your mind
My guess would be that he was probably sexually molested, and he feels as though his father didn’t protect him
"I didn't ask for what I got" None of us have, life goes on, many of us continue, move on and forgive!
Karamo cut a huge part of the show that gives more context. I feel for his son.
Baby i don't think thats what he was saying. He was speaking about his health clearly.
So let his dad treat him any kinda way, forgive, and continue accepting the behavior? Naw, don’t work like that. That’s ignorant.
I agree. I just think most of our parents no matter where you come from are flawed in some way or another. If you hold on to their mistakes and think it’s their responsibility to heal you, you may never actually heal. It’s not to say dad doesn’t owe him respect, as an adult he just owes it to himself more. He needs to forgive his dad and move on. For himself.
Yes true
The son is just using his fathers past to validate his bad behavior. He’s just an entitled child
If his father was so bad in the past, why would he have respect for his father? You don’t just forget someone’s past
Its amazing. The son wants to control the situation, and the host is trying to hold the wrong person at fault. Ain't no way imma let my child(34😂😂😂) talk crazy to me. Keep that same energy. I'm always going to be your parent, but you grown. Let this cruel world handle your mess
Right! Let him let world take care of his disrespectful azz
You got that right
Amen to that lol
Yeah I saw that too!!! To me the son is at fault!!! You cannot disrespect your father no matter what!!!!
Sorry but in my opinion his father did the best he could given his age at the time, the son is acting like a spoiled pick me… saying hes done and blocking him.. the father did nothing wrong but try his best . You called him on the show to block him and cry? Wow
Right 😅
no fr
Exactly. I think he just wanted to humiliate his pops, be able to look like a victim. I don't doubt that he was hurt by his father being absent but he definitely didn't come to resolve anything. Good luck to both.
Yeah i see what the father means about lil buddies attitude...
Yeah cuz I couldn’t walk away either
@@chelybeannI bet you're fine as hell
Either the father played us all like some fiddles, or that boy was on this show for no reason if he was already stern in his decision.
That boy played Karamo like a fiddle. He didn't come for resolution, he came to try and humiliate his father. I know folks that are 40 years old and don't even know their father's name, his pops did the best he could at that time being a teenager. I don't know what he's been through but from before the father even came out he said he was done with the relationship. If I were pops I would try to love him from a distance.
I personally know the father. He did not play you all at all. He really is a good guy. I was like my little brother. He was in my wedding. Horace was young and ill equipped, but he certainly tried his best without the proper guidance he needed to navigate through life. I was part of the group that traveled with him. I was actually the chaplain we tried our best to make sure that all trips were one day trips. Horace was hustling trying to make money for his family. I could say more but please know the son is really hurting for something his father cannot give him… only God. I am sincerely and earnestly praying for them.
No the son is full of it because I know the father we all grew up together. He loves his son that young man loves drama
@@peachesgreen8706 That's what i said. He sounds like a drama queen. Whtatever it is that's bothering him i pray he heals from it. And someone in another comment senction said that the father said something about his son's HIV STAUS. IS THAT TRUE? BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
@@PLEASURE_MeMe yes its true and he needs to respect his father and do what's best for him self. His mom left him and his brother on his grandmom and she was in and out of prison why didnt he bring her there. There's nothing wrong with him paying for life insurance he's a grown man and he calls his own problems
The father ended up shutting down cause the son was doing too much. Let him walk away at this point.
I feel like the dad is well poised, he has such an amazing way of controlling himself. I think he's a good guy.. The son has alot of issues, which may well be validated, but he has to open up as well and give dad a chance...❤
I don’t know about the “controlling himself” part because the Dad stopped to him so’s level and allegedly blurted out that his son had HIV.
Yea dad just staying quiet so his other side doesn’t show on TV. You can tell they edited a clip out. If his dad mentioned his son’s HIV status, dad has an issue with his son’s sexuality. If he treats him differently from his other kids and dna test proves that’s his son, it don’t get no clearer than that.
Girl I know this man personally he is a narcisstic
He a real black dad
Nah, we don’t see what’s behind the curtain.
They made this baby a meme😂
So many adults have issues from their childhood.
What the Son doesn’t understand is that it’s not all about him, he have to look at the Dads point of view and understand where he’s coming from as well.
11:57 you’re welcome
As an adult it is up to you to heal. This man is in his 30s behaving like this with the disrespect and sassy spicy attitude towards his father. Adults are resourceful, accountable and understanding the things/people they cannot change. The son should have contacted a family therapist for himself and his dad instead of a talk show, knowing the kind of healing he needs requires a deeper analysis. He brought his father all the way on tv to take an unnecessary DNA test…
“Sassy, spice”😭😭😭
The dad sat there and exposed his sons HIV status an entire audience like he’s been doing with everyone else. They bleeped that part out though. The father does not respect or love his son. The son needs to realize that heterosexual blk ppl despise gay people. They will never respect or accept him. He need to cut the off and find ppl who actually care about him
“Cut the show” 😭
☠️☠️☠️☠️
I feel bad for laughing after knowing the situation but it’s so hard not to
He is so dramatic and extra. Pain is not an excuse for disrespect. He wanted his moment on TV. He got it. Moving on.
I AGREE 💯...
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this. Now I know this a short show and we don’t get to see the full break down of dynamic between Father/Son; but I some what feel the son is being manipulative towards the Dad and using the fact that the Father was away during childhood as a means to “get his way” and to ensure the Father has him added into his will/insurance policy. Trying to make the Dad feel guilty and shameful is manipulation and make him feel he owes you the world even tho you have to share him with other siblings. I know the Dad made poor choices as a teen having these kids at a young age but it doesn’t make him a bad person. Also Karamo stated as a Dad he should walk away when the Son is ready to go there with arguments when in reality the Son need to walk away and seek supportive help at age 34. The Son couldn’t anwser straight forward questions bc he is use to shutting down and crying so everyone feel sorry for him so he gets his way! The Father see the act the son puts on and doesn’t fold to his demands😂Lol. Either way I wish both well and hope it’s healing in the future for them
I completely agree
I agree I can see that as well
Thissssssss !! I was thinking about this watching the entire video !
Agreed and l feel he brought his father on the show to humiliate him with the whole not accepting his sexuality malarkey.
Phew 😮💨 thanks because I just said the same thing, he wants a lot of sympathy for nothing. He’s not being grateful to even have a father. The alphabet community can be full of aeiou’s
I’ve watched about 6 episodes and cried on everyone of them. Bitter sweet moments. I think this show is about to me my new addiction.👏🏾
Aww 😊!
The son is extremely spoil and very sensitive. But I can understand and have empathy for the son behavior. He felt neglected and unsafe. Especially being homosexual, I'm sure he was bullied. He definitely been through a lot. The father definitely do love his son, but the father was young too.
I agree with all you typed except about the son being spoiled. I don't see having two absent parents and having to be a stand-in parents for younger siblings as being spoiled. That's quite the opposite. I think of spoiled people as folks who've been pampered and who've always had things handed to them. It sounds like he had a childhood that grew him up too fast, and he's still bitter about it.
Everyone has been teased and everyone has a story, he needs to get over it. He doesnt even know what he want at 34 and said he has no more fight and wants to be able to criticize his dad. I'm so tired of these behaviors manipulation
@@drawmeenye552 💯 agree with you
@@tincredible I agree with you. Spoil is the wrong word to use. But he definitely felt neglected and lack of love from both parents.
Yea y’all missing the real issue…
Hes making decisions based off his emotions. If he dodnt care to have his dad he wouldn't have brought him to the show in the first place. At least the man showed up damn
"i dont want it" had me cryingg broo 😭.
Sometimes when you are looking at yourself it’s hard to look in the mirror. Both are looking at themselves 😢😢😢 the son is definitely not gonna take any responsibility for his own bad decisions and wants to blame Dad The son needs to work on his issues separately as well as the father prayerfully they can come together one day but right now is not the time they both have extremely strong heads And I believe the sun has control issues as well as mental illness
When you become an adult, it’s time to heal yourself, especially when you can. I didn’t hear of any type of abuse. All I heard were unreasonable expectations from a 16 year old with too many children.
Yes, but he’s a product of a man that was reckless in his reproductive choices.
Momma was Missing. Dad did his best!
Cut the show im done
This is why I'm here.
Lol please 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
My question is: Why isn’t the mother getting none of this blame? It’s years later, where the heck is she now?
She got murdered when he was 10 years old
@@josalynwashington6236
No the grandmother was murdered not his mother
@@elleh.9021 his grandmother raised him his mom was murdered when he was 10 that’s why the father took him and then the grandma
This really brought me to tears as well. There's so much pain and hurt for that young man. Hoping and praying he eventually finds true peace.
Anytime you see a grown man cry you know he have enough and is hurting I feel his pain you will be ok stay strong 🥰🙏🏾
The son will live to regret his words. A disrespectful child’s days are numbered. I understand he’s hurt but he’s got to fix it with his father. The father is trying
There is something much deeper that he's not admitting to. He went through a trama and his father was not there to protect him
Wow what about that. A lot of black fathers and mothers are very stern with their kids because they don’t want they kids to end up with the worst possibility. But sometimes that can translate to fear of the kid. Not understanding the parent life. My father was stern until I told him I need more love and not as much discipline. That man changed instantly we best friends now. I’m very protecting of him and he tells me to calm down.
I was just thinking the same thing. He probably was sexually assaulted, and he felt as though his father wasn’t there to protect him.
I agree
Trauma* is what I think you meant. I had to read that three times to figure that out 😅
They said he’s HIV positive
“I don’t want it!” “I do not want it!” Lmao
Sometimes cutting off other people even if it's family, it's for a greater good. So much rooted pain in the son's voice.
His mental health comes first, and if he feels cutting his dad off his life is for a greater good, let him be. And no one shouldn't judge him for his decision.
This goes deep and alot can be discovered on why the father treated him the way he did.
HES CRYING BECAUSE DEEP DOWN INSIDE HE LOVES HE FATHER TO DEATH BUT THE DAD IS SO HELL BENT ON HOLDING BACK AND CONSOLING AND HUGGING HIM AND TELLING HIM THINGS IS GONNA BE OK HE NEEDS THAT HE FEELS SO ALONE AND THAT HURTS I FEEL HIS PAIN IM SORRY I FEEL HIS PAIN PERIOD AS THE CHILD
I’m Trippin… cause I literally remember Horace having his babies with him. When the son says that his father was always gone… He was gone right down the street which was in church. His father was at every choir rehearsal on Tuesday at 6 pm and Saturday mornings at 10 AM. He was in church on Sundays and walked straight home, right after. When we traveled, we never stayed more than 24 hours. Horace was a good guy and still is. He loved his children. Like I told one of the others in the comments he was hustling, doing the best he could without too many male figures in his life. …And not only was he an amazing dancer, but also a great singer. The Son is dealing with pain that has nothing to do with his dad. And I’m going to leave that right there cause…. CAUSE
Good to know
He is doing too much.
I think most people can see straight thru the son. It sounds like dad did the best he could I applaud him for being 16 and raising children. The son needs some deep therapy to get to the root of his issues I’m gonna step out there and say maybe his pain came from being big molested by someone and where is his frustration for his mom being absent? So much going on with him its not fair he’s faulting dad for all his pain..
The needs to learn to love himself first.
Ray charles could see through the sons bs..he couldn't even give one good example of his dad being a bad father to him...He(the son) is an attention seeker
If a person says they love you and you don't receive it, that is not on them. The dad is a hot head. But the son kept pressing the button and he popped off. Now you want to cry. It doesn't work like that.
You’re right the dad is not a hothead, and he has never been.
@@Valencia6842 Either you misread my statement or you did a typo.
The son always needs to get a word in. Talking over his father, talking over Karamo, we're only seeing a snippet but what even was the point of coming on the show for help? I don't know what the father said since it was bleeped and it probably was nasty so i in no way condone that. But the son isn't even trying to hear him out. I think they can get better and heal but the son has to give an inch.
That's how a lot of gay guys are, it seems.
Why should anyone try hear out a person that blasts their personal health information on tv against their will lmfao
@@xan8123 he wasn't hearing him before then either 🤷🏽♀️
😂😂😂 Why was he making children at sixteen. He was a child himself and didn’t know how to be a father.
Young, dumb, and uneducated. My sister was pregnant at 14. She jumped in bed with another lil boy and the two dummies thought shr couldn't get pregnant if she bathed after. The adults in his life failed him, that's the only way a 16 year old ends up with three kids.
She was in her….40’s?
THAT AIN’T OLD!!! 😂🤣😆
Tiktok brought me here 😅
"i do respect you daddy"💀
😂😂😂
Please help me get up from this floor 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
His father was a teen parent whose mother was murdered. His dad accepts his son and said even if he's not his son he would still be his father. The son needs counseling solo counseling.
I saw the argument that they didn’t show here between dad and son. When it started the dad kept warning the son to stop more than once and the son kept going becoming more agitated and rude. Then dad blurted something out that was really bad. It’s a sad situation. Separation might be the best thing for them right now. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
I figured it was much more to it. I did hear Karamo say that the Dad embarrassed the son. It is a sad situation.
What was said?
@@tlbell89he has hiv
@@tlbell89 apparently the dad said the son is HIV positive
The father probably didn’t know how to be different. He was probably not raised with a father and doesn’t know how to be a better father.
The amount of trauma held down. It’s insane ! I hope he heals. He deserves to heal with or without his father.
Parents have a huge responsibility. I have nothing to say about his father. Genuinely.
And all the comments seem to be buying into what seems to me to be the father's gaslighting.
This one has a huge sense of entitlement. Life is going to teach him some real good lessons.
It's at 12:02 if that's why you're here (like me lol)
He's one of the best dad in this type of situation. I think his dad loves him.. He's clearly crying bc he needs n wants love from his daddy. ❤
The son is immature. He wants validation because his dad didn't play catch with him as a kid. What are the tears for? Miss me with that.
I think there is more going on with this kid than his father not being there. I see a father willing to try and all he kept saying was I'm done, I'm blocking him, he doesn't love me blah blah, and all that emotion may be coming from a deeper place. I would recommend he start by getting his hormone levels checked and screened for depression. I respectfully disagree that his father needs to walk away during arguments because if he does, his son will still have problem with that and process it as him not listening to him or acknowledging his feelings
12:05😭
They edited out the part where the Dad tried to expose him. That’s why he had that breakdown and couldn’t stop talking over Karamo. Fortunately Karamo recognized it and redirected.
I saw the clip earlier and the son outed his dad's business first
Where can I watch it?
That’s what I came to see and it’s not here
@@KTQ333actually no, go watch again. The son brought up the life insurance policy issue and said It was the dad who began bringing up his health status to other siblings. Let me be very clear to some obtuse straights in this forum….THAT WAS NOT HIS PLACE. And if he did that, that more than justifies the trust issues the son has and why he brought up hypocrisy (those girls Dad knocked up at 16, what if instead of getting pregnant, they had HIV). There’s homophobic gaslighting seeping through this entire interaction, and many of you just don’t see it because you’ve not had those lived experiences.
@@bernardwylie9760🧢💩
Who came from tiktok ?
The father was a child himself who chose to step up as a father & probably had no father figure as an example being that he was raised by his mother. Parenting doesn’t come with instructions and it’s even harder when there’s no example to follow. So I commend him for at least trying and also willing to right his wrongs. I pray they get past the painful past and can move on in peace with eachother because life is too short and it hurts more once you realize it and it’s already too late 🙏🏾
“I’m good, i’m good, I’m good”
Immediately starts crying….😂
I feel so sorry for his son. I hope he can move on and find peace in his life.
Your biological father can’t give you what you need. He doesn’t have it. 😊Turn to your Heavenly Father who will never forsake you or abandon you. Let him go and protect your heart and mind. You are responsible for you now.
“i raised six kids” YOUR MOTHER RAISED YOUR CHILDREN. you just admitted you were not present because you were on the road. that was a choice.
Blessed be
Exactly and was continuing to make children thay he knew his mother would raise.. his son could have child sexual trauma.. something and someone hurt him. His father seems like a narcissist, and i can tell he is disappointed because hus son is openly gay.. however, maybe if he was around, the outcome would be different. He was selfishly still chasing a dream of his own and not being there for his children. I agree his mother was still raising him and his kids...
I thought I was the only one that heard that
He was basically a child raising a child. Navigating through chasing his dreams, providing for his kids and trying to be a teen .
Really really sad cause he just wanted his father to be a good dad and now he's TRYING to find SOLACE AND PEACE IN HIS LIFE WOW I HOPE THINGS GET BETTER FOR THIS YOUNG MAN
Horace was like my little brother. He was a good dad… as much as he can be as a 16 year old. This young man is disrespectful. At a young age he didn’t want anybody telling him what to do that’s why he was in trouble. I commend his father for not going into the details of his son’s rebellious years.
THERES NO EXCUSE FOR HIM THE FATHER ABOUT HIM BEING A CHILD THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR YOUNG AND DONT LISTEN TO UR PARENTS THAT CHILD HORACE DIDNT ASK TO BE HERE HE DIDNT SAY TO HIS PARENTS GO HEAD AND HAVE ME THATS THE CHOICE THAT WAS MADE FROM A MOTHER WHOM IS NOT AROUND AN A FATHER BEING OUT N THE STREETS AT A YOUNG AGE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND WITH HIS FRIENDS INSTEAD OF IMPREGANATING. Young girl cause he wanted to be a lover PERIOD BE A MAN Take responsibility and accountability for your ACTIONS I PROMISE YOU HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO FORTH COMING AND OUT RIGHT RUDE OR DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS HIS FATHER HE FEELS AND FELT ABANDONMENT PERIOD SO ITS NO EXCUSE FOR THE FATHER CAUSE A MAN IS GONNA BE A MAN BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A CHILD IF YOU Take the time to have a kid then tKe the time to raise a kid and they way his attitude is the father I'm speaking on the child wouldve been more respectful i believe cause i was raised frim my mom and dad an we had NOTHING BUT RESPECT BE WE KNEW BETTER THAN TO DISRESPECT OUR PARENTS
The son is over the top dramatic, immature and flamboyant. I'm with the father.
Unfortunately, nobody can take away the fact that the boy was traumatized from whatever he went through but it also seems like his mouth is reckless, and just like you don’t want to be disrespected your father doesn’t wanna be disrespected either and I can only imagine what he does behind closed doors he had no intentions on mending in the relationship, so he should have never gone on this show
It was the “ ooo” after the “take me off” that has me in tears.
His audience is horrible. They clap at the dumbest stuff. Why should this dad get an applause for keeping his children and not letting them go to the system?
I thought the same….literal bare minimum
Now that sounds dumb!! The horrendous things that happen in the system!!
@@juliefrazier4953 no one should want their children in the system so why should you get an applause for taking care of them? I guess because he’s a man
That's not the point. He established why he wasn't an active parent through the first 10 years of his life. The grandmother stepped up big time and did the right thing. Had he been given responsibility of 3 children at age 16 he would be incarcerated before he turned 18. The point he made was "I wasn't ready but when I was called to step up I showed up". This is the generational pain and consequences of babies having babies.
Because he was a child with several children without their mother. Men are not mothers they don't naturally mother anything so it's not unheard of for children in this situation to end up in the system
I let go of my mom at 32 because of toxic things she did to me as a child. She told me F*ck u but I got it off my chest and moved on. I’ve made peace with the woman she was and moved on with my life. I don’t cry when I think of her anymore I made it a figment of my past. U r grown enough to know when someone is ment to b in your life mom dad horse bird anybody or thing can go. I hope God blesses u and u find and make peace with your past. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Did you watch this episode cause if you did, the answer to your question is there
Anyone can have a baby but it takes a real strong man to be a father. And kids resent a parent that's not actively interacting with them as little children. And hold them accountable for not being there in person. Being a father is the emotional interaction between the two of them not just a simple title. The son is saying that you can't tell him what to do because he's now an adult and their was never a bond built as a toddler on up.
It’s the “I’m done” and the hands going up for me
Damn he 34 and still acting like a child ✌️
Lashing out isn't always due to pain. A lot of kids are simply showing their true character.... Disrespectful...This young man is full of drama. If he truly wanted to cut off all communications he would have stayed at home.. Dramatic and attention seeking..,🙄
He looks just like him ❤
Kids having kids , that’s the first issue . But there’s no excuses for not taking care of your kids . Smh
He’s dramatic, why come on the show to do all that?
He needs healing. He's not good at all! Idc how many times he said that i hope he gets some help and heals from all this and im hoping that him and his dad can come together one day and have a healthy relationship.
It feels like a lot of this story is missing. I’m confused about what actually happened between them.
The father had time to have babies on top of babies ....should have used more of that time to look after the ones he had already
The dad has seen SO MUCH of life, and his son hasn't. I don't doubt the dad has made mistakes, but the maturity levels are at such different places right now. The son is going to see this all differently in some years.
Its hard to amend a relationship with your child when they’re an adult
There's no breakthrough because of the son!!!
"I just be expressing my is an excuse" you can't keep playing victim forever, when i tell people ive been raped, abused and much more they're in shock, yes i know people cope differently but clearly he didn't want to resolve issue.
When he said I don’t have no more fight in me lord knows I felt this pain because I’ve been at a place in my life where I felt the same way . 😢hurt and tired . Parents being absent from their kids is not acceptable. Even when they grow up and become grown they still carry on that hurt 😢
So I have read the comments and many say that the “father did the best he could” but your best isn’t good enough if the child is saying I have a void. As a parent I demand respect, BUT let’s not forget that parents are not to provoke their children.
Ricardo is hurting and although he is in his 30s he is stuck in the pain of that child.
The father is saying he stepped up, but if your son is hurting you need to keep stepping up.
You don’t stop being a parent because your child makes mistakes, you continue to love them and pray for them and wait for them to make the necessary changes.
I pray for both the father and son. No judgement here because no one really knows what is going on, only what you think or what you observed.
I pray this young man gets the help and acceptance he needs. I hope he finds the love he seeks and that he will love himself.
I hope he feels better later 🙏🏾
This young man heart is broken