Now my tip for you is, when you want to say something to your allies you just press ctrl + enter, and you will open the allied chat box, no matter if you were using whisper or party chat right before. I saw you on another video having a hard time while talking to your friend on the other party, so just wanted to share this useful command I learned quite late in the game as well.
you don't need to draw the full length of telekinesis for the full effect, setting it to quick cast and only clicking will push in the direction you are facing ego w click behind you and press a for instant combo on heroes behind you.
It amazes me that this type of video hasn't been made before. It offers tons of useful advice for the game, not just a character, and it's all in one place, rather than spreading it to several different videos. Great content!
You said the only downside of attack moving is inaccuracy, but in game settings, there is a setting that will make it attack closest to your cursor instead of your character. I think this is the optimal setup
When you face an alt+zombie wall naz then you face a decent naz, only thing i can say is use it without ANY type of slow, varian E for ex, if you cast wall with E slow from varian, you will get caught. Is always good to know when is better, like a repulsion zone from zarya against diablo, if you use it after he charge in, he get isolated and can be easier to engage a fight, i saw it at a grubby vid and used it yestarday with great results
Pro tip man, love that move. Time it right, and youll catch people really off guard, like kerrigan as she leaps, or greymane. Pretty hilarious when you pull off a good wall. It allows you to use you mouse to path, and nail the timing of the wall better.
True you could aim it differently, but if you know varians range and can predict the dive timing you can alt wall sooner in his dive allowing you to move forward more, then make sure and stop right at the edge of the wall to body block him into it. A lot of this stuff is so situational though it's impossible to properly describe with text.
I knew most of these from previous moba games, but that queuing commands tip is one of the best pieces of advice anyone has ever given me in a game. THANK YOU
Everyone thinks different, and then argue all time about why cant reach platinum or at least silver, and then you play with them and realize they will play, live and die always in bronze or silver. Shift and move is so basic and so needed to get into, also picking talents with control, 2 basic things that won games in channeling maps
shift commands are fun, but I don't use them much in teamfights tbh. I use them for pathing in the map say go the safe long way without having to constantly watch my player or jump the map around. I rather enjoy on malf using the shift + Q + D to instantly give health, and mana faster than I could ever hope to do it manually. Probably there's other heroes, that have great little things like that, but I don't play them. Think I just thought of one too on a hero I don't play. ETC when you are mid powerslide hold shift, and hit R. :D
I am a mediocre player at this game, and I love how huge the overwatch community has taken up coaching and improving the player base through youtube. I have been looking since overwatch came out for something similar for heroes as I love heroes more than any other game. And then I found you. Thank you so much for being an actually good player of heroes who really knows what they're doing and can explain to the rest of us your playstyles, tips and tricks. This is exactly what I needed.
1) there is one more way to stutter step : right click to move + 's' to stop, then right click again to move 2) casting at yuor feet area denial abilities is very useful to escape (e.g. casting Chromie's time trap right at your feet as you move away from chasing enemy) 3) don't grab biscuits from the toilet, that's very bad advice!
On the tip of stutter stepping, you can also set it so that you will target what is closest to your character or what is closest to your mouse click. This makes targeting heroes a bit easierand may help some people.
12:46 omg this is the single greatest thing I have learned from your videos ever, that I am capable of performing - I always dismounted every time before - thank you
I've just started using quick cast in conjunction with learning how to Zeratul in QM and it has made a huge difference to my play in just 2 days. It was rough at first, but feels like I'm playing a completely different game. Thanks for the tips!
ALT self-cast is also very good with Nazeebo's Zombie Wall when running away, the timing is perfect so that the chasing enemy hero will run inside of it
Hey Nubkeks...thank you so very much for this! I had the default click settings on, and I'll admit I thought it would be too difficult to switch to quick cast. Because of your insistence in this video, though, I gave it a try with "on release" as a baby step. I found it so much easier than the default click setting and even turned off "on release" within a few games. It made me a much better Kerrigan and Li Ming (my two fav characters to play). You also gave the best explanation for stutter stepping I've seen. Thanks again!
Thank you for the video! You are the only youtuber that has explained exactly what you are inputting. Everyone else just assumed the viewer has played a MOBA before. I really appreciate the knowledge. Now if I could only get my hands to move faster.
There's a small inaccuracy in the video when you talk about attack move: if you attack move with your cursor directly on a target you will shoot at that target specifically, just like you would with a right click. It's not necessary to use right click if you want to specifically target a hero as far as I know.
Let's see: We have a situation where you can't use A-move because of a minion wave between you and your target. You then A) Switch to right clicking directly your target. Missing makes you walk at them harmlessly. B) Keep A-moving but only directly on your target. Missing makes you attack the first obstacle between you. If you are going to die from moving at them, I say that keep A-moving but directly on them. The only situation where B is worse is when you absolutely can't afford to miss a slow attackspeed hit (Arthas trait?).
I get the logic, but sometimes I feel like it's easier to aim right click on the mouse vs an "A" move, but maybe I'll give that a go and see how it works.
@5:45 HoTs 2.0 has a command to make it so you can target the closest enemy to your cursor with Attack Move, rather than the closest enemy to your hero. Settings>Options>Gameplay>Check Attack Move TargetPoint. Just a heads up @nubkeks
Assign "Attack-Move" to the left mouse button. It's gonna improve your stutterstep-game so much! Just change between left and right click periodically :)
Oi! If you go to the Settings Page "Hotkeys", then on "Basic" you can change your binding for "Attack" (bottom left). In my case I chose the A-key (not really necessary) just as well as the LEFT Mouse Button for the Attack-Move. I didn't change the right button! Good luck!
Thanks this was really helpful Nub! the only thing I knew of was stutter step (which i'm still practising), Silver 2 played for 2 years on and off if anyone is wondering. Also bit blown away how none of this is taught in game.
what i wish is that they take of hero targeting priority or at least have it so that you can set it on and off. The amount of times I've played kerrigan on shrines and jumped to a hero when i 100% clicked on a minion is frustrating
If you attack command the specific Hero you want to target, you'll target that Hero anyway regardless of the minions around. Right clicking when minions are around really isn't necessary
InsanePorcupine Yeah, for someone that has played starcraft since it's release (also played Starcraft broodwar before that) this thing is so stupid! I am a main The Vykings player; I kinda miss starcraft :P
Another great video! Would love to see a tips video on how to analyze your own replays! I feel like replay analysis is one of those things where you can learn THE MOST if you know how to pick apart what you're looking at!
My mind was blown with the shift-mount-move thing. I knew this was made in the SC2 engine, but I never made that connection or thought to use it that way. Thanks!
What are your favorite hero specific uses for Shift? Also favorite self cast? My favorite Shift usage is with Chen Q+R to isolate someone with barrel and with Diablo any combination of Q and E. My favorite self cast is Alarak's self telekinesis. I guess this is essential for Alaraks but not obvious for new Alarak players.
This got recommended to me for some reason. It's the first nub's video I have seen years ago, and I remember how much it helped me :D Pity he abandoned hots...
for future use you should add which tip you are talking about and what key, saying it helps but also having the button shown on screen will help people, for example tip 1:alt + right click on the left hand side whiel you are talking, i had to re watch this just to remember what buttons you were talking about
About Stutter Stepping - To hit the target you want (as a ranged hero, for example) you can also "A" click (attack move) and have your mouse on the target - similar to right-clicking on the target. Not only right clicking allows you to select a specific target.
Azmo is my fav character and i always tell people about alt+R if i see them manually self cast (which obviously you covered). my only other tip would be quick cast Tracer's blink and when you play her or lucio click a hero you want to focus fire on and then right click the floor where you want to go and hold it down. the character will fluidly follow your mouse cursor without having to rapidly click and/or accidentally clicking a new target.
Pro tip: since the only thing you use left click for on the map is casting abilities if you don't have quick cast (which should at least be on release if not full quick cast), bind mouse1 to the attack move and right click to "force move": this means right clicking on someone DOES NOT make you attack them. Left click for attack, right click for movement. Once you get used to it, it becomes a lot easier. Then, if you turn on the proximity-based attack command setting, your intended target just needs to be the closest enemy to your mouse when you left click. These all combine into making mistakes much less, especially when stutter-stepping.
Another good use of Shift to queue actions is to take the "safe" path across the map. For example, say you want to go from top shrine to bottom shrine on Dragon Shire. If you just right-click the bottom shrine, you'll take the shortest path through the middle of the map, and you might get ganked in the bushes. To take a longer, safer path, you could Shift-right-click on your team's side of the map, first near your top fort, then your bottom fort, then the bottom shrine.
If you're a beginner to MOBA style games, default casting or quick-cast on release is better for learning and developing muscle memory because it actually shows you the AOE/range of many abilities after clicking, and gives you a visual indicator. This is important for skill shots in particular that requires you to be much more accurate and precise.
good overall tips. what I like to do with quick cast is leaving on release for global and putting quick cast on for escapes and combos. for example Alarak and Kerrigan skills are always QC on, while Falstad has on release for Q and on for E.
Quickcast for skills that have to be used quickly and often (Heals for example) On release for skills where you have the time to prepare it (Valeera Ambush for example)
Also can be good to know that Spacebar will center the camera on your hero from anywhere, and as long as you're holding it, it will follow you and illuminate your position with a column of light.
You can also use attack-move and click on the enemy. So you don't get punished for missclickimg and nearly every autoattack will hit the enemy you want. I don't know why nobody uses this and why all the videos about stutterstepping doesn't explain this way of doing it...
I can't stress the usefulness of the shift queue command's importance. It seems minimal, but the amount of time you save by mounting INSTANTLY after channeling an objective or collecting a well makes a large impact on a game. Sometimes it means you're into a fight one auto-attack sooner which could ultimately decide if a teammate lives or dies. There's nothing worse than watching a player attempt to mount or go to collect a well and end up cancelling the command just BARELY too early only to watch them waste 4 seconds doing it yet again. It's also nice to queue movement commands on the map, so instead of clicking next to your character, you can queue a couple of movement commands in the jungle to make your way back WITHOUT accidentally walking behind enemy towers while you're distracted. ALSO...Shift+Hearth is another nice example. Sometimes you want to hearth right away after an objective, or if you shift+hearth while doing a camp your player will hearth instantly as the camp is collected. You would also be surprised how much time is wasted when players aren't taking the fastest path to a location because they spam click in front of them. Outside of dodging skillshots, a perfectly straight line is the fastest escape. It's also the fastest route to a healing fountain or objective. Being able to queue these as you mount or perform other actions is part of what separates good players from great ones.
I'm pretty sure you can click on your target with A to target specific enemies with stutter-stepping. Then, even if you miss them, you'll either attack them from a distance or attack the nearest enemy without moving toward them.
I've been wondering for a while how to ping the skill bars and stuff. I knew you could ping other stuff with G already but kept putting off looking up the other. Didn't know about the quick cast skills thing either. Knew about the rest. Cool video.
another really good use for shift click is for teleporting over wall, especially like liming. click to move right next to the wall and shift E click the other side. never miss the timing again
Tnx man, I've played over 3k games without these... 'bout time I started using them. Hitting alot more Q's on liming but I brainfarted a couple of orbs in the wrong direction too :') takes some getting used to
Ugh I have watched so many tutorials on stutter stepping and for some reason, even with all the practice, I still cant get it down. It really frustrates me because I get so many other mechanics, but this one is holding me back. Also quickcast is annoying but I have not practiced it either and with it off, your explanation really helps me understand why I miss seemingly easy skill shots more often then I should. Great video as always I would love to see more videos like this! In fact, it would be great to see role tutorials from you. I am decent with assassins pretty good with support but really good woth certain specialists. I suck with warrior and I just started hero league, and while Im lower level still doing placements, I dont want to screw up myself and my team from shitty warrior play. So if possible I would love to see tutorials or tips and tricks for the different roles I think your analysis on that would definitely help players such as I. Thanks!
My better hero to learn stutter stepping is lunara, her jumps are great to get used to, also naz is a good option. When you are more into, valla,zuljin, tychus with his trait and raynor with quest and W activated, if you can manage that attack speed, then you can consider stutter stepping mastered. For warrior, body block is crucial, not attacking but body blocking give more kills that you can imagine, and also manage your CC ability, not always jump and Q with Mura, is better to always make difficult to read that you have your CC on cooldown or not. With those things and protect your team, is more than enough, about protect i mean stop enemy diving your backline, if they dive they have to feel you would let them out of position. You manage your team position, your job is keep it as strong as it could be.
7:54 this is the only thing i didn't already know prior to watching this video.I am SO doing this all the time now.such a pain the ass to have to use the mouse to pick talents everytime
Diablo's E + Q can be queued. Falstad Z + R (Gust), Kerrigan (W + E, rarely useful, you should manually do this), Artanis (W + Q, same as Kerrigan). Using shift is super necessary on Diablo, the others here are pretty useful, but not mandatory.
Ive found this video incredibly useful, helpful and humorous. Thank you! Thinking outloud about my experience with it so far, not sure whats optimal for me as a constant left click right clicker to keep moving around and selecting when I need? I had used these for a time then ran into issues with selection and saw some remarks about having to make a hero quick cast, not sure what I was missing so I'm going back to trying to keybind auto attack, quick cast, select, and move all on my mouse but I only have 3 buttons on my mouse, until i get a gaming mouse. maybe select could be spacebar? I have been trying to find someone who's posted visual quick cast settings for hero and attack movement management and currently this is one of the best being a video. Anyone have more visuals to point me to? granted I think the point of you illustrating using ctrl+# of talent would bypass my need to select those in game...but Iknow there was some other reason I needed to go back to normal settings.
great vid! filled the gaps of a couple of things I wasn't aware of! Especially this explains that green dotted line showing out of no where! lol /no1 :3
Thank you for this video super helpful, this reminded me that these commands from Warcraft 3 which I used almost all the time back then are implemented here as well which I did not know.
I like the video. It was a bit messy with Malfurion and Arthas at the beginning: you could've explained everything with the target dummy, but I think it's ok. A couple of suggestions for upcoming videos, in case you are running short of ideas: (1) explain how to choose the right talents during the game according to the situation at hand. I get so frustrated when my random teammates are using cookie-cutter builds and forget about what the team and map requires (would I ever see some support other than me taking cleanse in QM? And don't get me started with Triple Shot...). (2) do in-depth explanations on strategies for each particular map: relevance of the objectives, the pushing, the timings of the camps, and so on; which heroes are favored and which ones aren't and why; how could a team make a comeback and how can the other team prevent that from happening; etc.
There is a setting that lets you attack the closest target to your cursor when you press the A button. And also a setting that puts that command on quick cast
I got to from low Gold to Diamond with only stutter step (only from these tips i mean), so I would say that's the most important. The others are optional. Although if you know the hero you main 100%, then quick cast would be useful like 20% of the time i.e. Artanis Q+E combo would definitely be faster without the two mouse clicks BUT it would rarely leap any major benefits.
I knew some of these, but wow a lot of them are new to me as well. Thank you so much for this! That said is there a reason to use attack move instead of Stop (S) to stutter step? That also makes your hero attack the nearest target and requires one less input since you don't need to click the mouse again for an attack move command. Am I missing something?
Great video. You didn't mention the new addition with 2.0, that lets you hover targets to stutter step. I'd love for you to cover this topic in-depth. Pros and cons of using hover vs click, etc. Maybe with some examples.
very good video. i use nearly all of them (exapt Attackmove with some heroes ^^) btw did you know that there are camerapositionbuttons like in warcraft and starcraft? using ctrl+F5-F8 and ctrl+shift+F5-F8 you can save the actuall camera position and with F5-F8 or shift F5-F8 you can switch to that position (so there are 8 camera poition you can save) have fun with it
I'm diamond and I'm using everyone of those except talents picking. also in my opinion best use 10:30 of self cast is Alarak W (he casts it on maximum range to push himself direction he is facing) also I got negative habit overusing self cast, I almost don't use Auriel heal correctly coz almost every time I use it is with selfcast.
Self casting your root as malf is often super useful, because it allows you to easily run away and poop out a root without having to bring your mouse back to you character and potentially misclick a move command. Soemtimes when I'm in a tense teamfight I stop cspamming move commands, and just hold right click to path to avoid clicking on a minion wall or whatever, when the battleground is busy. ALT + E on malf is great with this. This isn't always the best placement though so don't use it as a crutch, but vs illidan or chen or a number of dive heroes it's just to easy, and effective not to do.
Nowadays there *ARE* 2 options for attack button. You can choose between attacking what is closest to your hero or what is closest to the cursor. The second option most of time if you don't click too far away can work as the first option as well plus you have the benefit of choosing what to attack when needed without the need to be 100% precise on hitbox.
If you choose the option to make the attack button attack the closest enemy to where you click, you can click outside the hitbox of the minion and still attack it. I am not sure what you are refering to. If you are talking about attacking by mouse clicking, I am not talking about that - I'm saying about the attack button.
I believe in Heroes 2.0 there will be a setting in the Attack move options where you can make your hero attack the target closest to your cursor, rather than your hero
Theres an option I'm having a very hard time finding but I used to have it. I'm not sure what it's called either, but it is when you target an aoe ability (say Jaina's blizzard) outside of its max range circle. It used to be that if I clicked outside of the max range, Jaina will immediately cast Blizzard at max range, but now she'll run toward the area I clicked till she's in range and then cast Blizzard. This is a big deal for me because I just want clicking outside the range bubble to mean that I want a max range blizzard immediately in that direction.
It was present as a form of smartcast in other mobas, but I don't think it's available in hots. Iirc in some recent patch they changed the behaviour of some leftover spell that still allowed to do that.
Tip1. I feel like default casting is best for me, I aim better, lucky for me I got monster apm thanks to SC II, so I don't feel like I am at a disadvantage. Tip2. Stutter stepping in extremely useful, I don't even loose accuracy unless I'm fighting a summoner like Naz, Zag slag, or whoever. This is a huge advantage. However sometimes I find defensive situations where just standing still and auto attacking works better, granted you will need a self sustain, an escape , or cc to pull it off, and this trick only really works in very specific times tho. Tip3. Explain it better please, you should have said the control 1 is starting from the top to the bottom, Took me a lil bit to figure it out. This is awesome, I didn't even know you could do that. This like Tip 2, this is very useful. Tip4. The alt pings, are very useful, Before they had indicators at the top showing your teams ult cooldown timers, and voice chat, this was what good teams used to communicate. Tip5. The shift command, never helped me on HoTs... but in SC II, this is something you should get down. On the checking talents, there is another way, manually get to the fountain, tap tab, instantly see all talent, and continue game... the only way to do this, is to know EVERY single talent, and to have a photogenic memory, but learning all talents even for people you dont like or play, is useful for countering in your talent tier if possible. for example, if uther is using the talent that gives him 200% faster cool downs every time hes stunned, it helps to avoid stunning him. This however was very informative, great video.
Say, for example, if I try applying this to Valeera can I shift-que up her combo when I'm 100% sure it's a kill so that I'm absolutely sure I won't misclick or mess up in the middle of it? Would it actually aim her sinister strike towards the intended target, would it chase and keep comboing if I decide to garrote instead of cheap shotting and so on?
I have a question about control preferences. I am in low plat right now and have been playing with my camera locked the entire time. Does unlocking your camera honestly give you that much of an advantage ? I know you can scroll for vision but you can do that by clicking the mini map. I've tried playing with an unlocked screen and it's very difficult for me. Is playing with an unlocked screen mandatory to get better? If so why?
Queuing up moves with shift is critical for playing the vikings I find. Tell erik to run in for a globe then return to your tower give you lots of time to babysit the other 2.
i got a litltle tip for the studderstepping. if u press S (stop) ur hero will stop whatever its doing. If u have auto attack enabled (i believe it is enabled by default) ur hero will start auto attacking. Then instead of having to click(move) A+click(attack-move) u can just click(move) S (stop up and attack) and repeat. i find this much easier and this will hopefully also help u guys.
i don't use this so i might be incorrect but i remember reading that there is actually a downside to this technique (although i agree i'd prefer it to a+click myself). you could also just set 'a' to quickcast :)
i think that downside about that was when you used it and cant target someone you dont attack at all, when if you use attack button you always position to attack something or move, without doing dps. And also, with melee assassins is better to use attack button than stop, you get caught easily. Maybe i could be wrong, but was something like that
You do attack unless you spam stop AFAIK but you wont walk towards people like an A move so it could be useful with not overextending, I don't use it though (>>>full yolo right here
I use quick cast on my movement abilities (valla vault, falstad barrel roll, tracer q, etc) and point and click abilities (healing abilities, etc) but use normal setting on all my skill shots abilities.
So I'll probably figure it out before getting a reply but what happens if you mess up your queued actions? Is there a way to cancel them or are you locked in until they finish?
question. I am coming from D3 where you can put all your skills anywhere you want. I am very used to having my movement skill on the far left.(Q) So say for Valla's vault by default is E can I move it to Q? And for the talent selection can I pre pick them ahead of time? Please and thankyou
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i also recommend to make the cursor smaller, then you can click on a specific target easier
easy to learn quick cast list.. zarya grenade, guldan fel flame, jaina Q, zagara banelings, abbathur mines, sonya slam, alarak E, lunara wisp, GENJI SHURIKENS!
so are you left clicking after pressing 'a' to attack move? pretty sure i turned quickcast on attack move on so i can just press R-click > a > R-click > a ... rather than having to weave in left clicks. heard you mention you don't play with that setting on and wondered why?
I think you have it correct, at least thats how I do it (in general tbh I just right click on the thing i want to attack, but will sometimes amove if I'm feeling lazy- i find my clicks are generally precise enough). I listened back and it sounds like he is pressing a and then clicking in a 1-1 ratio so he does it like us I think, and agree it would be odd to add the necessity to weave in left clicks XD
he kinda jumbled his words i don't know what he was trying to say haha XD I understood "i have on release turned on which I don't usually play with" i.e. he switched from on release to full quick cast
Now my tip for you is, when you want to say something to your allies you just press ctrl + enter, and you will open the allied chat box, no matter if you were using whisper or party chat right before.
I saw you on another video having a hard time while talking to your friend on the other party, so just wanted to share this useful command I learned quite late in the game as well.
wow that is incredibly helpful!
Shift + Enter also works, it's what I use due to the proximity of the two
or you play team league on voice chat
also alt+telekinesis is really useful on Alarak, as it quickly pushes yourself to the direction you are currently facing
Sami Kärkkäinen wow nice one :)
nice to know
better than every single tip in the video combined.
you don't need to draw the full length of telekinesis for the full effect, setting it to quick cast and only clicking will push in the direction you are facing ego w click behind you and press a for instant combo on heroes behind you.
Rexoraptor ; yea I don't know about this, since I personally don't use quick cast. The alt+w is just my go to for a quick escape
It amazes me that this type of video hasn't been made before. It offers tons of useful advice for the game, not just a character, and it's all in one place, rather than spreading it to several different videos. Great content!
You said the only downside of attack moving is inaccuracy, but in game settings, there is a setting that will make it attack closest to your cursor instead of your character. I think this is the optimal setup
depends if youre ranged or melee, melee and bodyblocking is easier if set to closest to your character
alt+zombie wall and alt+lunar flare is also nice since it's ideally timed to let you get out and trap/stun whoever is chasing you
When you face an alt+zombie wall naz then you face a decent naz, only thing i can say is use it without ANY type of slow, varian E for ex, if you cast wall with E slow from varian, you will get caught. Is always good to know when is better, like a repulsion zone from zarya against diablo, if you use it after he charge in, he get isolated and can be easier to engage a fight, i saw it at a grubby vid and used it yestarday with great results
Pro tip man, love that move. Time it right, and youll catch people really off guard, like kerrigan as she leaps, or greymane. Pretty hilarious when you pull off a good wall. It allows you to use you mouse to path, and nail the timing of the wall better.
True you could aim it differently, but if you know varians range and can predict the dive timing you can alt wall sooner in his dive allowing you to move forward more, then make sure and stop right at the edge of the wall to body block him into it. A lot of this stuff is so situational though it's impossible to properly describe with text.
Or what's super fun with varian is stay in your wall, and wall him out, and watch as he derps around your wall super sketch like.
If you alt-Q with Abathur you achieve Chim.
I knew most of these from previous moba games, but that queuing commands tip is one of the best pieces of advice anyone has ever given me in a game. THANK YOU
Still helping people in 2020 :)
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Learn this and learn map awareness and you're better than >90% of players
Everyone thinks different, and then argue all time about why cant reach platinum or at least silver, and then you play with them and realize they will play, live and die always in bronze or silver. Shift and move is so basic and so needed to get into, also picking talents with control, 2 basic things that won games in channeling maps
You missed the word "master" :3
"master" this and map awareness and you're better than 99% of players ;)
i meant that you're better than 90% of master players xD
shift commands are fun, but I don't use them much in teamfights tbh. I use them for pathing in the map say go the safe long way without having to constantly watch my player or jump the map around. I rather enjoy on malf using the shift + Q + D to instantly give health, and mana faster than I could ever hope to do it manually. Probably there's other heroes, that have great little things like that, but I don't play them. Think I just thought of one too on a hero I don't play. ETC when you are mid powerslide hold shift, and hit R. :D
This is a really good video man, thanks for making it - Darrian
I am a mediocre player at this game, and I love how huge the overwatch community has taken up coaching and improving the player base through youtube. I have been looking since overwatch came out for something similar for heroes as I love heroes more than any other game. And then I found you. Thank you so much for being an actually good player of heroes who really knows what they're doing and can explain to the rest of us your playstyles, tips and tricks. This is exactly what I needed.
1) there is one more way to stutter step : right click to move + 's' to stop, then right click again to move
2) casting at yuor feet area denial abilities is very useful to escape (e.g. casting Chromie's time trap right at your feet as you move away from chasing enemy)
3) don't grab biscuits from the toilet, that's very bad advice!
On the tip of stutter stepping, you can also set it so that you will target what is closest to your character or what is closest to your mouse click. This makes targeting heroes a bit easierand may help some people.
12:46 omg this is the single greatest thing I have learned from your videos ever, that I am capable of performing - I always dismounted every time before - thank you
I've just started using quick cast in conjunction with learning how to Zeratul in QM and it has made a huge difference to my play in just 2 days. It was rough at first, but feels like I'm playing a completely different game. Thanks for the tips!
ALT self-cast is also very good with Nazeebo's Zombie Wall when running away, the timing is perfect so that the chasing enemy hero will run inside of it
Hey Nubkeks...thank you so very much for this! I had the default click settings on, and I'll admit I thought it would be too difficult to switch to quick cast. Because of your insistence in this video, though, I gave it a try with "on release" as a baby step. I found it so much easier than the default click setting and even turned off "on release" within a few games. It made me a much better Kerrigan and Li Ming (my two fav characters to play). You also gave the best explanation for stutter stepping I've seen. Thanks again!
Thank you for the video! You are the only youtuber that has explained exactly what you are inputting. Everyone else just assumed the viewer has played a MOBA before. I really appreciate the knowledge. Now if I could only get my hands to move faster.
I already knew all of this and I'm still shit... #FeelsBadMan
I know most of this but I'm still Gold 5. What I often lack is drafting, so I think if I improve that I could get Plat :D
New player here. Loved the video man super helpful for a newb! I'm loving this game!
There's a small inaccuracy in the video when you talk about attack move: if you attack move with your cursor directly on a target you will shoot at that target specifically, just like you would with a right click. It's not necessary to use right click if you want to specifically target a hero as far as I know.
I think he meant it is more precise that way
Let's see: We have a situation where you can't use A-move because of a minion wave between you and your target. You then
A) Switch to right clicking directly your target. Missing makes you walk at them harmlessly.
B) Keep A-moving but only directly on your target. Missing makes you attack the first obstacle between you.
If you are going to die from moving at them, I say that keep A-moving but directly on them. The only situation where B is worse is when you absolutely can't afford to miss a slow attackspeed hit (Arthas trait?).
Zebina is it? you have the same exact chance to misclick, but with a move at least you don't risk death
I get the logic, but sometimes I feel like it's easier to aim right click on the mouse vs an "A" move, but maybe I'll give that a go and see how it works.
Bind "A-move and click" to left click. That's what I did
bind Amove to left click and use quick cast for efficient stutter stepping. just right click then left lick to attack once then right click again
@5:45 HoTs 2.0 has a command to make it so you can target the closest enemy to your cursor with Attack Move, rather than the closest enemy to your hero. Settings>Options>Gameplay>Check Attack Move TargetPoint.
Just a heads up @nubkeks
I've been playing this for near 2 years and I JUST learned about that Shift-Click now?! OMG... thanks for sharing this vid!
Assign "Attack-Move" to the left mouse button. It's gonna improve your stutterstep-game so much! Just change between left and right click periodically :)
Oi mate how did you assign the Attack-Move to your right button? been trying to play a bit with the in game hotkeys but couldn't find it.
Oi! If you go to the Settings Page "Hotkeys", then on "Basic" you can change your binding for "Attack" (bottom left).
In my case I chose the A-key (not really necessary) just as well as the LEFT Mouse Button for the Attack-Move. I didn't change the right button!
Good luck!
ah found it, thx mate. never new that A button there was assigned for attack move.
Bunator and then play vikings ;)
Thanks this was really helpful Nub! the only thing I knew of was stutter step (which i'm still practising), Silver 2 played for 2 years on and off if anyone is wondering.
Also bit blown away how none of this is taught in game.
I wish they would make the attack command prioritize heroes or at least make a setting for it.
some bloke when you play enough of hots u wouldnt care about it it's not that hard
what i wish is that they take of hero targeting priority or at least have it so that you can set it on and off. The amount of times I've played kerrigan on shrines and jumped to a hero when i 100% clicked on a minion is frustrating
You just have to learn how to right click when there are minions around man. Just be glad you're not playing starcraft if it's that hard.
If you attack command the specific Hero you want to target, you'll target that Hero anyway regardless of the minions around. Right clicking when minions are around really isn't necessary
InsanePorcupine Yeah, for someone that has played starcraft since it's release (also played Starcraft broodwar before that) this thing is so stupid! I am a main The Vykings player; I kinda miss starcraft :P
Another great video! Would love to see a tips video on how to analyze your own replays! I feel like replay analysis is one of those things where you can learn THE MOST if you know how to pick apart what you're looking at!
My mind was blown with the shift-mount-move thing. I knew this was made in the SC2 engine, but I never made that connection or thought to use it that way. Thanks!
I've been using G to ping, my whole life is a lie.
old habits when i used to play league....
michjackson4e League also works with alt ;)
ZapBadger hi
Really rad video! I have over 6K games played and learned a lot!
What are your favorite hero specific uses for Shift?
Also favorite self cast?
My favorite Shift usage is with Chen Q+R to isolate someone with barrel and with Diablo any combination of Q and E.
My favorite self cast is Alarak's self telekinesis. I guess this is essential for Alaraks but not obvious for new Alarak players.
This got recommended to me for some reason. It's the first nub's video I have seen years ago, and I remember how much it helped me :D
Pity he abandoned hots...
I've been waiting for a video like this since the game release. Great job!
for future use you should add which tip you are talking about and what key, saying it helps but also having the button shown on screen will help people, for example tip 1:alt + right click on the left hand side whiel you are talking, i had to re watch this just to remember what buttons you were talking about
About Stutter Stepping - To hit the target you want (as a ranged hero, for example) you can also "A" click (attack move) and have your mouse on the target - similar to right-clicking on the target.
Not only right clicking allows you to select a specific target.
Azmo is my fav character and i always tell people about alt+R if i see them manually self cast (which obviously you covered). my only other tip would be quick cast Tracer's blink and when you play her or lucio click a hero you want to focus fire on and then right click the floor where you want to go and hold it down. the character will fluidly follow your mouse cursor without having to rapidly click and/or accidentally clicking a new target.
Pro tip: since the only thing you use left click for on the map is casting abilities if you don't have quick cast (which should at least be on release if not full quick cast), bind mouse1 to the attack move and right click to "force move": this means right clicking on someone DOES NOT make you attack them. Left click for attack, right click for movement. Once you get used to it, it becomes a lot easier. Then, if you turn on the proximity-based attack command setting, your intended target just needs to be the closest enemy to your mouse when you left click. These all combine into making mistakes much less, especially when stutter-stepping.
Another good use of Shift to queue actions is to take the "safe" path across the map. For example, say you want to go from top shrine to bottom shrine on Dragon Shire. If you just right-click the bottom shrine, you'll take the shortest path through the middle of the map, and you might get ganked in the bushes. To take a longer, safer path, you could Shift-right-click on your team's side of the map, first near your top fort, then your bottom fort, then the bottom shrine.
If you're a beginner to MOBA style games, default casting or quick-cast on release is better for learning and developing muscle memory because it actually shows you the AOE/range of many abilities after clicking, and gives you a visual indicator. This is important for skill shots in particular that requires you to be much more accurate and precise.
Looks like I gotta try to use those quick cast option more often. It's bad to be lazy ^^ Thx for awesome video mate very helpful !
Although I already use these, I found it very entertaining to watch and listen, good job 😄👍
good overall tips.
what I like to do with quick cast is leaving on release for global and putting quick cast on for escapes and combos. for example Alarak and Kerrigan skills are always QC on, while Falstad has on release for Q and on for E.
Quickcast for skills that have to be used quickly and often (Heals for example)
On release for skills where you have the time to prepare it (Valeera Ambush for example)
You can check in option to attack the closest enemy to your cursor when you execute an attack move, quite useful
Also can be good to know that Spacebar will center the camera on your hero from anywhere, and as long as you're holding it, it will follow you and illuminate your position with a column of light.
SO THATS HOW YOU DO THE CONSECUTIVE COMMANDS. Now my pro mount/fountain timings will never be used again lol
ive used shift to queue up healing fountain then running back to lane, didnt realise you could use it for channeling/mounting etc! thanks :) great vid
You can also use attack-move and click on the enemy. So you don't get punished for missclickimg and nearly every autoattack will hit the enemy you want. I don't know why nobody uses this and why all the videos about stutterstepping doesn't explain this way of doing it...
He only didnt mention that... the rest of his explonation was okay i think :D. Maybe he dont know it.
Incredibly helpful video. Thank you. I didn't know most of these control functions existed.
I can't stress the usefulness of the shift queue command's importance. It seems minimal, but the amount of time you save by mounting INSTANTLY after channeling an objective or collecting a well makes a large impact on a game. Sometimes it means you're into a fight one auto-attack sooner which could ultimately decide if a teammate lives or dies. There's nothing worse than watching a player attempt to mount or go to collect a well and end up cancelling the command just BARELY too early only to watch them waste 4 seconds doing it yet again. It's also nice to queue movement commands on the map, so instead of clicking next to your character, you can queue a couple of movement commands in the jungle to make your way back WITHOUT accidentally walking behind enemy towers while you're distracted.
ALSO...Shift+Hearth is another nice example. Sometimes you want to hearth right away after an objective, or if you shift+hearth while doing a camp your player will hearth instantly as the camp is collected. You would also be surprised how much time is wasted when players aren't taking the fastest path to a location because they spam click in front of them. Outside of dodging skillshots, a perfectly straight line is the fastest escape. It's also the fastest route to a healing fountain or objective. Being able to queue these as you mount or perform other actions is part of what separates good players from great ones.
This right here. Is the exact video I've been looking for. Thanks!!
thank you so much, it really showed up some nice shortcuts and controls I've never seen! keep up the great job :D
I'm pretty sure you can click on your target with A to target specific enemies with stutter-stepping. Then, even if you miss them, you'll either attack them from a distance or attack the nearest enemy without moving toward them.
I've been wondering for a while how to ping the skill bars and stuff. I knew you could ping other stuff with G already but kept putting off looking up the other. Didn't know about the quick cast skills thing either. Knew about the rest. Cool video.
another really good use for shift click is for teleporting over wall, especially like liming. click to move right next to the wall and shift E click the other side. never miss the timing again
Really helpful! I learned some things I had been wondering how to do. 10/10 on video!
I actually didn't know about the self cast.
Very good tips idd. Gonna be tricky to get used to, for sure, after almost 6500 games into the game, but may just gonna have to give it a go.
Tnx man, I've played over 3k games without these... 'bout time I started using them. Hitting alot more Q's on liming but I brainfarted a couple of orbs in the wrong direction too :') takes some getting used to
Awesome video. I learned a few things.
Any more video ideas you have on how we can train to be better players would be great.
Ugh I have watched so many tutorials on stutter stepping and for some reason, even with all the practice, I still cant get it down. It really frustrates me because I get so many other mechanics, but this one is holding me back. Also quickcast is annoying but I have not practiced it either and with it off, your explanation really helps me understand why I miss seemingly easy skill shots more often then I should. Great video as always I would love to see more videos like this!
In fact, it would be great to see role tutorials from you. I am decent with assassins pretty good with support but really good woth certain specialists. I suck with warrior and I just started hero league, and while Im lower level still doing placements, I dont want to screw up myself and my team from shitty warrior play. So if possible I would love to see tutorials or tips and tricks for the different roles I think your analysis on that would definitely help players such as I. Thanks!
Certain characters are easier to learn stutter stepping with. I personally learned it with Naz.
Boyd De Regt I'll give it a go with Nazzebro. I consider myself competent with him so excellent place for me to start! Thank you!
My better hero to learn stutter stepping is lunara, her jumps are great to get used to, also naz is a good option. When you are more into, valla,zuljin, tychus with his trait and raynor with quest and W activated, if you can manage that attack speed, then you can consider stutter stepping mastered. For warrior, body block is crucial, not attacking but body blocking give more kills that you can imagine, and also manage your CC ability, not always jump and Q with Mura, is better to always make difficult to read that you have your CC on cooldown or not. With those things and protect your team, is more than enough, about protect i mean stop enemy diving your backline, if they dive they have to feel you would let them out of position. You manage your team position, your job is keep it as strong as it could be.
I also learned it with Lunara. Treat the A-button like a second Q with an incredibly short cooldown
Greatest 15 min of my life 😁, one of the best hots vids i have ever seen! thanks dude keep up the good work
so you didn't know that you can change options?
MrRockinDreamer no actually i didnt know :)
Great video about things that come quite late into the game for most people.
7:54 this is the only thing i didn't already know prior to watching this video.I am SO doing this all the time now.such a pain the ass to have to use the mouse to pick talents everytime
Diablo's E + Q can be queued. Falstad Z + R (Gust), Kerrigan (W + E, rarely useful, you should manually do this), Artanis (W + Q, same as Kerrigan). Using shift is super necessary on Diablo, the others here are pretty useful, but not mandatory.
Ive found this video incredibly useful, helpful and humorous. Thank you! Thinking outloud about my experience with it so far, not sure whats optimal for me as a constant left click right clicker to keep moving around and selecting when I need? I had used these for a time then ran into issues with selection and saw some remarks about having to make a hero quick cast, not sure what I was missing so I'm going back to trying to keybind auto attack, quick cast, select, and move all on my mouse but I only have 3 buttons on my mouse, until i get a gaming mouse. maybe select could be spacebar? I have been trying to find someone who's posted visual quick cast settings for hero and attack movement management and currently this is one of the best being a video. Anyone have more visuals to point me to? granted I think the point of you illustrating using ctrl+# of talent would bypass my need to select those in game...but Iknow there was some other reason I needed to go back to normal settings.
great vid! filled the gaps of a couple of things I wasn't aware of! Especially this explains that green dotted line showing out of no where! lol /no1 :3
Thank you for this video super helpful, this reminded me that these commands from Warcraft 3 which I used almost all the time back then are implemented here as well which I did not know.
I like the video. It was a bit messy with Malfurion and Arthas at the beginning: you could've explained everything with the target dummy, but I think it's ok.
A couple of suggestions for upcoming videos, in case you are running short of ideas:
(1) explain how to choose the right talents during the game according to the situation at hand. I get so frustrated when my random teammates are using cookie-cutter builds and forget about what the team and map requires (would I ever see some support other than me taking cleanse in QM? And don't get me started with Triple Shot...).
(2) do in-depth explanations on strategies for each particular map: relevance of the objectives, the pushing, the timings of the camps, and so on; which heroes are favored and which ones aren't and why; how could a team make a comeback and how can the other team prevent that from happening; etc.
There is a setting that lets you attack the closest target to your cursor when you press the A button. And also a setting that puts that command on quick cast
I got to from low Gold to Diamond with only stutter step (only from these tips i mean), so I would say that's the most important. The others are optional.
Although if you know the hero you main 100%, then quick cast would be useful like 20% of the time i.e. Artanis Q+E combo would definitely be faster without the two mouse clicks BUT it would rarely leap any major benefits.
I knew some of these, but wow a lot of them are new to me as well. Thank you so much for this!
That said is there a reason to use attack move instead of Stop (S) to stutter step? That also makes your hero attack the nearest target and requires one less input since you don't need to click the mouse again for an attack move command. Am I missing something?
Great video. You didn't mention the new addition with 2.0, that lets you hover targets to stutter step.
I'd love for you to cover this topic in-depth. Pros and cons of using hover vs click, etc. Maybe with some examples.
If I could add anything to the tip about attack-move / stutter-step it's that Valla is an excellent choice of hero for practicing it.
very good video. i use nearly all of them (exapt Attackmove with some heroes ^^)
btw did you know that there are camerapositionbuttons like in warcraft and starcraft?
using ctrl+F5-F8 and ctrl+shift+F5-F8 you can save the actuall camera position and with F5-F8 or shift F5-F8 you can switch to that position (so there are 8 camera poition you can save)
have fun with it
I'm diamond and I'm using everyone of those except talents picking.
also in my opinion best use 10:30 of self cast is Alarak W (he casts it on maximum range to push himself direction he is facing)
also I got negative habit overusing self cast, I almost don't use Auriel heal correctly coz almost every time I use it is with selfcast.
Self casting your root as malf is often super useful, because it allows you to easily run away and poop out a root without having to bring your mouse back to you character and potentially misclick a move command. Soemtimes when I'm in a tense teamfight I stop cspamming move commands, and just hold right click to path to avoid clicking on a minion wall or whatever, when the battleground is busy. ALT + E on malf is great with this. This isn't always the best placement though so don't use it as a crutch, but vs illidan or chen or a number of dive heroes it's just to easy, and effective not to do.
These helped me a bunch! I'm surprised some of these aren't in the tutorial!
Nowadays there *ARE* 2 options for attack button. You can choose between attacking what is closest to your hero or what is closest to the cursor. The second option most of time if you don't click too far away can work as the first option as well plus you have the benefit of choosing what to attack when needed without the need to be 100% precise on hitbox.
If you choose the option to make the attack button attack the closest enemy to where you click, you can click outside the hitbox of the minion and still attack it. I am not sure what you are refering to. If you are talking about attacking by mouse clicking, I am not talking about that - I'm saying about the attack button.
Quick cast(or smart cast) is life, I can't even think playing without it.
I believe in Heroes 2.0 there will be a setting in the Attack move options where you can make your hero attack the target closest to your cursor, rather than your hero
Theres an option I'm having a very hard time finding but I used to have it. I'm not sure what it's called either, but it is when you target an aoe ability (say Jaina's blizzard) outside of its max range circle. It used to be that if I clicked outside of the max range, Jaina will immediately cast Blizzard at max range, but now she'll run toward the area I clicked till she's in range and then cast Blizzard.
This is a big deal for me because I just want clicking outside the range bubble to mean that I want a max range blizzard immediately in that direction.
It was present as a form of smartcast in other mobas, but I don't think it's available in hots. Iirc in some recent patch they changed the behaviour of some leftover spell that still allowed to do that.
Nice helpful tips! Thx for the video
Lots of good stuff here, thanks!
Tip1. I feel like default casting is best for me, I aim better, lucky for me I got monster apm thanks to SC II, so I don't feel like I am at a disadvantage.
Tip2. Stutter stepping in extremely useful, I don't even loose accuracy unless I'm fighting a summoner like Naz, Zag slag, or whoever. This is a huge advantage. However sometimes I find defensive situations where just standing still and auto attacking works better, granted you will need a self sustain, an escape , or cc to pull it off, and this trick only really works in very specific times tho.
Tip3. Explain it better please, you should have said the control 1 is starting from the top to the bottom, Took me a lil bit to figure it out. This is awesome, I didn't even know you could do that. This like Tip 2, this is very useful.
Tip4. The alt pings, are very useful, Before they had indicators at the top showing your teams ult cooldown timers, and voice chat, this was what good teams used to communicate.
Tip5. The shift command, never helped me on HoTs... but in SC II, this is something you should get down. On the checking talents, there is another way, manually get to the fountain, tap tab, instantly see all talent, and continue game... the only way to do this, is to know EVERY single talent, and to have a photogenic memory, but learning all talents even for people you dont like or play, is useful for countering in your talent tier if possible. for example, if uther is using the talent that gives him 200% faster cool downs every time hes stunned, it helps to avoid stunning him.
This however was very informative, great video.
Say, for example, if I try applying this to Valeera can I shift-que up her combo when I'm 100% sure it's a kill so that I'm absolutely sure I won't misclick or mess up in the middle of it? Would it actually aim her sinister strike towards the intended target, would it chase and keep comboing if I decide to garrote instead of cheap shotting and so on?
I have a question about control preferences. I am in low plat right now and have been playing with my camera locked the entire time. Does unlocking your camera honestly give you that much of an advantage ? I know you can scroll for vision but you can do that by clicking the mini map. I've tried playing with an unlocked screen and it's very difficult for me. Is playing with an unlocked screen mandatory to get better? If so why?
Queuing up moves with shift is critical for playing the vikings I find. Tell erik to run in for a globe then return to your tower give you lots of time to babysit the other 2.
i got a litltle tip for the studderstepping.
if u press S (stop) ur hero will stop whatever its doing. If u have auto attack enabled (i believe it is enabled by default) ur hero will start auto attacking. Then instead of having to click(move) A+click(attack-move) u can just click(move) S (stop up and attack) and repeat.
i find this much easier and this will hopefully also help u guys.
i don't use this so i might be incorrect but i remember reading that there is actually a downside to this technique (although i agree i'd prefer it to a+click myself).
you could also just set 'a' to quickcast :)
i think that downside about that was when you used it and cant target someone you dont attack at all, when if you use attack button you always position to attack something or move, without doing dps. And also, with melee assassins is better to use attack button than stop, you get caught easily. Maybe i could be wrong, but was something like that
You do attack unless you spam stop AFAIK but you wont walk towards people like an A move so it could be useful with not overextending, I don't use it though
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Very usefull things to know. Thank u nubkeks!!
wow nice video!!! It will definitely help me! Thanks!
I use quick cast on my movement abilities (valla vault, falstad barrel roll, tracer q, etc) and point and click abilities (healing abilities, etc) but use normal setting on all my skill shots abilities.
you forgot about the "H" key, "Hold position"
And S for "stop and attack priority target in range".
Is there any disadvantage to just using that over A+aim+LMB? Because that's what I do.
If you are not in range with your stop then you won't follow like with attack move. It (stop move) is good for tanks/warriors while body blocking.
Therefore "in range".
When outside of that I use A move, but only then.
Yep, the good ol' SC2 engine
So I'll probably figure it out before getting a reply but what happens if you mess up your queued actions? Is there a way to cancel them or are you locked in until they finish?
question. I am coming from D3 where you can put all your skills anywhere you want. I am very used to having my movement skill on the far left.(Q) So say for Valla's vault by default is E can I move it to Q? And for the talent selection can I pre pick them ahead of time? Please and thankyou
i also recommend to make the cursor smaller, then you can click on a specific target easier
easy to learn quick cast list.. zarya grenade, guldan fel flame, jaina Q, zagara banelings, abbathur mines, sonya slam, alarak E, lunara wisp,
GENJI SHURIKENS!
YAY! nice info, and great video.
Thank you very much, this was really helpful :D
so are you left clicking after pressing 'a' to attack move?
pretty sure i turned quickcast on attack move on so i can just press R-click > a > R-click > a ... rather than having to weave in left clicks. heard you mention you don't play with that setting on and wondered why?
I think you have it correct, at least thats how I do it (in general tbh I just right click on the thing i want to attack, but will sometimes amove if I'm feeling lazy- i find my clicks are generally precise enough). I listened back and it sounds like he is pressing a and then clicking in a 1-1 ratio so he does it like us I think, and agree it would be odd to add the necessity to weave in left clicks XD
yeah it did sound like it, but he specifically mentioned that he had to turn off quickcast on attack move, which confused me...
he kinda jumbled his words i don't know what he was trying to say haha XD I understood "i have on release turned on which I don't usually play with" i.e. he switched from on release to full quick cast
ahh maybe that was it, i didn't double check. cheers
Thanks for the tips. I just subbed