BMW is a good choice - we use a Mercedes GLC 43 (3litre BiTurbo) the trouble is the suspension is not only very hard but when accelerating the rear squats down and then comes up slowly - next week we get our hands on a Mercedes GLS and the crew are thrilled as there is lots more room in the back for the techy bits and a as an absolute + the rear iPad style screens can be hooked up to the camera!!!
That's pretty awesome the back screens can be hooked up to the camera! Yeah, my next car I'm thinking air suspension is the feature I'm going to try and get to help the ride
Awesome...I need to figure out if there is a legal or safe length for operating this on a road without a special permit to figure out if it's worth getting for me
@@learningcameras I think Bestboy Adams shortened his so it was legal to drive on public roads with it on the roof (ie it did not protrude too much from the front). For filming on public roads my guess is you might get away with the crane is forwards or backwards, but I'm sure out the side will require special permission.
Hi Dan! I have been looking at this combination since it was launched but find very few real world video clips (Best Boy Adam said that he would post a second video focusing on different gimbals and stability etc but he has not as of now) ...they are usually so quick that you cannot get a feel for the out of camera stability...any chance you could post some longer unedited clips to show how good/bad its stability is...I am not sure if they gave you access to unedited footage...maybe they didn't!
So they did give me access to the unedited footage and it's smooth. Not quite butter smooth but just a few minor vibrations and I actually find I usually want some vibration. Movements were very smooth though which was awesome. Although for all of the shots we did, we were using the Ronin 4D and not a gimbal/camera setup which is probably the more common setup.
You absolutely can shrink it down all you need is custom cables and you can take the middle piece out. It doesn’t actually make you legal for a public street, the issue is most places allow you to overhang up to 4 feet off the back of your car, and sometimes a couple feet off the front as well, but almost never does legislation allow you to have overhang off the side of your vehicle. It totally would make it more manageable for someone who wants a smaller setup though, probably real good to film jeeps that way since the arm is shorter it’s easier to keep it from hitting trees and rocks, and it would definitely be safer for your cameras on a narrow track or trail. If you don’t believe me go look at the reviews, there’s one by an Eastern European gentleman who successfully created custom cables so he could run the arm with the middle piece removed. I just can’t remember his name offhand.
Actually at the time I made this, you could not take the middle piece out and they did not make shorter wires for it. I asked them and it was not even in the plans and they recommended not doing that because for some reason it decreased the amount of weight it could carry (I think because this doesn't have adjustable counterweights). A few months ago they ended up adding that ability and I'm really glad they did because the long setup was pretty dangerous even on this closed track and they would only let a professional operator use the arm. But when I made this they said it was not possible and they did not recommend it
@@learningcameras they still don’t make shorter wires for it. If you read my comment you’d see that I said you need to make custom cables. Making an arm shorter reduces its overall requirement for strength, and also reduces the amount of strain on the arm. At the time of filming this video you absolutely COULD shorten this, you just decided to trust the manufacturer instead of attempt it yourself. Not a surprising thing to do. If you still have it I highly suggest going to find that other review so you can see how he changed his cables.
Appreciate the heads up! I actually agree but i couldn't quite nail down what frequency was missing/too much lol. What were you listing to it on out of curiousity?
It's exciting, but more for the commercial automotive camera car people that now have a more flexible option for remote shooting. It's not quite small enough for me to take out for a cool shoot
Hey Dan, it didn't type, right... I wanted to say not exciting about the green color Ferrari. We always see red. But I think you did fantastic with the gear with great smooth action footage. Greg
BMW is a good choice - we use a Mercedes GLC 43 (3litre BiTurbo) the trouble is the suspension is not only very hard but when accelerating the rear squats down and then comes up slowly - next week we get our hands on a Mercedes GLS and the crew are thrilled as there is lots more room in the back for the techy bits and a as an absolute + the rear iPad style screens can be hooked up to the camera!!!
That's pretty awesome the back screens can be hooked up to the camera! Yeah, my next car I'm thinking air suspension is the feature I'm going to try and get to help the ride
Great video. Thanks. I think Bestboy Adams shortened his arm a bit. Not down to 6ft though.
Awesome...I need to figure out if there is a legal or safe length for operating this on a road without a special permit to figure out if it's worth getting for me
@@learningcameras I think Bestboy Adams shortened his so it was legal to drive on public roads with it on the roof (ie it did not protrude too much from the front). For filming on public roads my guess is you might get away with the crane is forwards or backwards, but I'm sure out the side will require special permission.
Hi Dan!
I have been looking at this combination since it was launched but find very few real world video clips (Best Boy Adam said that he would post a second video focusing on different gimbals and stability etc but he has not as of now) ...they are usually so quick that you cannot get a feel for the out of camera stability...any chance you could post some longer unedited clips to show how good/bad its stability is...I am not sure if they gave you access to unedited footage...maybe they didn't!
So they did give me access to the unedited footage and it's smooth. Not quite butter smooth but just a few minor vibrations and I actually find I usually want some vibration. Movements were very smooth though which was awesome. Although for all of the shots we did, we were using the Ronin 4D and not a gimbal/camera setup which is probably the more common setup.
You absolutely can shrink it down all you need is custom cables and you can take the middle piece out.
It doesn’t actually make you legal for a public street, the issue is most places allow you to overhang up to 4 feet off the back of your car, and sometimes a couple feet off the front as well, but almost never does legislation allow you to have overhang off the side of your vehicle.
It totally would make it more manageable for someone who wants a smaller setup though, probably real good to film jeeps that way since the arm is shorter it’s easier to keep it from hitting trees and rocks, and it would definitely be safer for your cameras on a narrow track or trail.
If you don’t believe me go look at the reviews, there’s one by an Eastern European gentleman who successfully created custom cables so he could run the arm with the middle piece removed. I just can’t remember his name offhand.
Actually at the time I made this, you could not take the middle piece out and they did not make shorter wires for it. I asked them and it was not even in the plans and they recommended not doing that because for some reason it decreased the amount of weight it could carry (I think because this doesn't have adjustable counterweights). A few months ago they ended up adding that ability and I'm really glad they did because the long setup was pretty dangerous even on this closed track and they would only let a professional operator use the arm. But when I made this they said it was not possible and they did not recommend it
@@learningcameras they still don’t make shorter wires for it. If you read my comment you’d see that I said you need to make custom cables.
Making an arm shorter reduces its overall requirement for strength, and also reduces the amount of strain on the arm.
At the time of filming this video you absolutely COULD shorten this, you just decided to trust the manufacturer instead of attempt it yourself.
Not a surprising thing to do.
If you still have it I highly suggest going to find that other review so you can see how he changed his cables.
@@learningcameras the arm is light enough that it doesn’t need a counterweight.
It doesn’t have a wind fin either, it just doesn’t need it.
@@learningcameras in other words making the arm shorter makes it exponentially stronger
Their is something about the audio that feels a bit harsh for the ears. Just thought I'd let you know. A good video btw
Appreciate the heads up! I actually agree but i couldn't quite nail down what frequency was missing/too much lol. What were you listing to it on out of curiousity?
@@learningcameras Hey, I was just using my headphones Jbl
I agree! I am currently listening to it on my iPad Pro. Quality is poor, most when it hits a certain frequency. It goes muffled.
@@jonathan1192 appreciate the feedback
@@learningcameras no problem! I am a loyal fan of yours, great content! Keep up the great work!! 👊👊
Una Ferrari verde non si può vedere.
I agree, nothing exciting with a draby green car.
I agree, nothing exciting about it at all.
It's exciting, but more for the commercial automotive camera car people that now have a more flexible option for remote shooting. It's not quite small enough for me to take out for a cool shoot
Hey Dan, it didn't type, right... I wanted to say not exciting about the green color Ferrari. We always see red. But I think you did fantastic with the gear with great smooth action footage. Greg
@@gregwilsonnaturephotography hahaha