Education Minister Jacqui Smith not ruling out university closures
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Education Minister Baroness Jacqui Smith has told Sky News that universities need to be as "efficient as possible" and does not rule out closures which she hopes to “avoid”.
Baroness Smith also confirmed to the Politics Hub with Sophy Ridge that reforms to the university sector will be announced later in conjunction with the Office for Students.
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After her fraudulent behaviour she should not be allowed a seat in the lords.
exactly - the lords should be abolished anyway !
Definitely correct, no honesty in this one.
Is that not a requirement?
@@R53Hole it would seem so !
knows no shame this one.
So what 'skills' are we short of? Because if it's plumbers, electricians, bricklayers etc. then it's Labour's fault for turning all the Technical Colleges into 'Universities'.
Why didn't the Tories change them back?
@@ryantandy8202 Because they were nearly as Blairite as 'New Labour'!
Well said ! As I often tell people, my plumber friend earns More than my lawyer wife ! Schools and Colleges will never tell their students that - it's all about University being seen as a natural progression from A-levels. This is wrong.
They didn’t. Major did.
So right all they did was give these idiots a sense of entitlement . A battered second hand car will never become a Bentley. Typical liebore trick
The only choice of employers isn't to import foreigners, they could hire and TRAIN English people.
They abandoned that practice decades ago around the time industry began to move our jobs overseas. Politicians keep banging the skills shortage drum. They should know. They are responsible for it.
Education Minister Jacqui Smith not ruling out university closures 1052am 23.7.24 why is that.... lack of foreign students coming over for a top notch education as they bone up on the language of the boardroom and business ie: english.. or due to the fact all these piss poor scholastic instituttions or all applying for university status. it aint anything to aspire to indulge with these days, though. the democracy of learning has a lot to answer for. I'm thick as fukc so haven't rocked the boat in any way..... p.s a PHD in door slamming.
Too expensive they will say. Apprenticeships have been destroyed in Britain 30 years ago.
Just English eh?
@@Justinian-IV No, Welsh and Scottish also.
What a load of claptrap from that woman.
Jacky Spliff, been on it again.
Claptrap from a non-MP that degraded teacher's position and skills during the last Labour government.
Starmer, digging up another ghoul from the past! Awful woman.
Wasn't Baroness Smith the one who used her expenses to buy dodgy DVDs for her husband?
The digital id is on it's way at the bidding of their mates in Davis.
Awful that this woman is in charge of unis 😢 Awful.
How did we go from free higher education with grants in the 1970's all the way to now closing universities ? Where has all the money gone ?
In the 70's only a small proportion of young people went to universities. Part of the issue stems from Blair's push to get 50% of young people into higher education, which detracted from eg apprenticeships and other forms of training, etc. This vastly increased the number going to universities and the breadth of degrees, rather than valuing both academic and vocational/more practical routes, depending on which was appropriate for individuals and employers. There are a lot of apprenticeships, etc around at various levels now, but schools/colleges aren't always promoting them, as it adds kudos to get students to universities. There's also been a big reliance on foreign students, which has been affected by covid, visa restrictions and the development of online courses.
In 1970 only about 10% of school leavers went to university. And there were only about 45 universities.
That is why we could afford to fund them with taxpayers money.
@alan_davis yes. A lot of polytechnic have been "promoted" to university status, which again puts the emphasis on academic achievement rather than the more practical aspects of training/learning, even if sandwich courses are included.
To Tony Blair's friends and family plan! (Labour)
@@zoecurran4185 I'm convinced 'apprenticeships' don't exist, lol. I've seen no real evidence that they do.
The same old claptrap about skills without funding the infrastructure. There used to be actual apprenticeships which provided training in actual skills. This withered away with de-industrialisation
Would this be the de-industrialisation initiated by Thatcher? Meanwhile the birth-tate has fallen below replacement level and training the declining pool of youngsters will take years.
I did an apprenticeship back in the late 90's. Back then, we had 5 years with day release to a technical college plus a training agent to assess on the job qualifications. It was heavily subsidised by the government. Now all the subsidies are gone, the technical colleges are mostly gone and the training agents are gone. All of it scrapped by the tories to save money. What they forgot is that those of us who did an apprenticeship went on to well paid jobs so we repaid all that money and more on to through our taxes and very few of us ever claimed any benefits.
Training and education is an investment, not a cost
It was killed by Blair,labour, I lost my college job thanks to his education, education, education. Montra! They can't buy qualified people now! I'll never go back. Once bitten, twice shy!
@@John-gr5tx How? Surely his 'education, education, education' mantra was about expansion not contraction, irrespective of what degrees were being taught?
Yes and the 5 year apprenticeship was was whittled down to a 6 month training coarse!
It was Labour that pushed everyone into going to University and the shutting down of Technical Colleges or turning them into university too
A lot of the courses available at university are totally unsuitable for the workforce. Half of them should be shut down.
Which half?
@@richardgale1287 well maybe not shut down completely, but greatly reduced. History, PPE, political science, international relations, english litt., languages, etc.
Do not forget the 3K plus Fashion Design students turned out each and every year.
@@nonegiven9579 Quite useful for our fashion and design industries, I imagine.
Had to resign as home secretary in 2011 because of a expenses scandal.
2009, actually. But other than than correct on the money.
Why is this expenses cheat back in a government?
because the last Foreign Secretary committed the same offences.
@@rockerjim8045 Two wrongs do not make a right!
this woman has not a clue
Oh no. What are we going to do with12,000 less Media Studies graduates.
Close Oxford and Cambridge.
Best way to make sure that we have better governments in the future.
Close elite boarding schools. It’s a pipeline.
That is probably true. Those institutions turn out our establishment, which never govern in the interests of the British people.
How about we just don’t vote for Oxford grads. Rather than closing libraries and labs, let’s try that.
@@richardgale1287 A bit difficult when we have a proportional representation system and the majority of candidates for major parties are Oxford or Cambridge graduates!
Half of these Unis seem to let anybody in, mainly foreigners that pay though!
The higher fees paid by "foreigners" have been subsidising British students for decades, it's one of our important invisible exports.
@@davidgardiner4720INDEED, it's shocking how the brutish have been abusing the education system!!!!
@@davidgardiner4720What is being exported?
The top unis let foreign students in with far worse grades, because they pay more.
One of the worst ministers in modern British history.
How is this woman in a job,after what she did last time ,I xant believe my ears and eyes,and education secretary, too boot.its beyond an insult to all of us.
Loved it when Galloway scolded her.
And now he's lost his seat
No-one would miss the comedy degrees. Funny really, as in 1979, I wrote a small pamphlet saying we needed to focus on skills and education to compete - unfortunately, all we did was tell people that buying a pile of bricks would make us rich.
..it did for a one genearation giveaway orchestrated by Thatcher!
Unbelievable. This woman defrauded the tax payers of £10s thousands which the electorate kicked her out. It's a total disgrace .
Labour are like the Mafia
Universities aren’t supposed to produce technicians; they’re there to create environment for researchers, thinkers, and intellectuals to address complex social and economic problems (systemic challenges) with long term orientation. Vocational training serves the current requirements of industry but this isn’t to be delegated to universities as it kills the very spirit of higher education where the focus is on developing higher order thinking
This woman scammed thousands of tax payers money in the mps expenses scandal and the she gets into the house of lords so much for Starmers honesty and integrity policy
How this woman has the nerve to appear on TV is remarkable.
Smith looks like she's been exhumed for the event.
Who exactly voted for this woman?
our PM did
The worst thing Britain did in terms of education was end YTS for 16 and 17 years olds
Doesn't apply here thankfully.
At £9250 a year tuition fees in England, they won't close any of that cash cow there.
3 year degrees can be done in 18 months if they pull their fingers out, but that’s no good for university finances.
I did my degree in two years. I skipped first year. Nobody ever asks if it’s doable. It is doable at some institutions (I attended a Russell Group University). Three years for a degree is stupid.
16th year of free tuition for Scottish Students from SNP Scottish Government.
@@ScottishRoss27 Nicola Sturgeon’s claim that the SNP ended tuition fees is not entirely accurate. Up-front fees were abolished by Labour in Scotland (after Tony Blair’s government introduced them in 1998) under pressure from the Liberal Democrats and many students were exempted from the Graduate Endowment scheme the coalition put in place. The SNP can, however, accurately say it introduced free university education by scrapping the graduate endowment.
But yes, it is a travesty that we pay so much in England.
@@ScottishRoss27 But it is also a failed policy. Student's do not attend classes, they are not always serious unlike their international counterparts. The free tuition needs some control to ensure it is money well spent
I agree shut most of the universities
The Tories wanted to remove funding and courses that were pointless and offered no way into jobs and Labour wants to remove funding for uni's that don't have enough of those pointless courses.
The circus just got higher in volume
How's her Old Man's Video shop going ? 😎
He's Oxbridge and had free Uni Tuition. So, for that matter, did she. Think I'd prefer watching one of those videos to trying to have a laugh and joke with her.
We all know that the new houses they want building are for the migrants .it's all about helping the migrants we are not fools
Well, that's just horse****.
@@alan_davis yeah, £8/9 million a day 🐴 💩
Universities should prioritize intellectual property rights (IPRs). It is worth noting that some of the computer systems were originally created by university faculty members. Consider the potential financial benefits that could be gained by universities through the development and protection of valuable intellectual property.
@@mikel8850Which is the op described them doing, they should then protect the results of that research.
It is what murican universities do to make money but British ones give it away for the greater good leading to murican universities patenting it to claim ownership like Edison, and even that they invented it like Elon musk.
Sorry. Labour have No Policy .
More executive housing with double garages built in the green belt without the social infrastructure or any public transport
None for first time buyers.
[1:00] One minute in, and propagandist interviewer asks the Minister a really tough question - "Is that fair?"
How will the Universities feel about Labour, who have been promoting socialist liberal policies to their students for decades, are now being warned redundancies are coming and they're no longer fit for purpose. Talk about turning on your own.
They also haven't ruled out poking badgers with spoons. Who cares about what they haven't said they won't do, what about the stuff that they have done, are doing, and will continue to do?
That sounds like an interesting proposal What qualifications would a person need to poke a badger with a spoon, and which universities supply the degree courses?
Government shouldn't have any hand in universities. Universities should of course observe the same laws as the rest of us. As for skills. Stop importing labour and the employers will have no choice but to train up people if they want to do business in the UK. Make business in the UK attractive by reducing onerous regulation and corporation tax - as with Ireland.
'no choice but to train up people' - I've worked since the days of lower immigration. Employers didn't train people then either, unless a Government scheme paid for it.
Want more people to be employable for jobs? make university's affordable. Want people to be able to afford houses....maybe let people off on the debts on university fees.
Why? Many uni course's offer nothing to the UK. Many company's don't even train the staff they have now, because training costs money.
How about learning a skill rather than some meaningless bullshit.
A plumber can earn more than someone one who did " critical race theory" or " gender studies" plus they provide the very basics of life.
Water!
@@michaeldoolan7595 Every subject has its place in the world. If someone went to work for a support organisation, like Stonewall (for example), Gender Studies would be very useful to those roles. If someone wanted to specialise in an area of law (e.g. human rights law), then CRT would be useful post-grad specialism on top of an undergraduate law degree.
And so the Labour spin continues, climate ,immigration. Pinochio speaks.
The bloated HE sector needs to shrink with more resources put into Further Education. 👇
42% of university-educated workers outside London work in a job that does not require a degree, up from 31% in 1993. The share is highest in Lincolnshire and Cumbria, where more than half of graduates work in non-graduate jobs (58% and 52%, respectively).
These are among the findings of a new IFS report that examines the geographical implications of long-term trends in the labour market, building on previous research for the IFS Deaton Review of Inequalities.
i was trying to find electrical instalation course there are none they costs 1000s the local college had a course but couldnt find a tutor to run it
same with painting / decorating courses. expect to pay nearly a grand!
@@agfagaevart the mad one is theres a graphic design course being advertised as being worth £2600 for free paid for by the local authority what the f am i gonna do with that play with pictures for living
@@DjD1MAH
that course could be useful if they teach Photoshop / illustrator / After Effects / Premiere etc. some good jobs going for that subject. Better than £9,250 for degree.
And people voted Labour for 'change' and they have a lot of the same failed MPs from 2010
She still reeks of New Labour. Basically Blair with knockers.
In the 60s the majority of men worked in manufacturing, today it is 8% and falling. As the manufacturing sector has shrunk over the last 60 years, labour has been absorbed into the service sector. The number employed in manufacturing dropped from 6.69m when Margaret Thatcher came to power, to 4.53m when Tony Blair entered Downing Street to less than 2.7m today.
I have never liked Labour, but there are a couple of policies such as this that are very good.
Of course, it seeks to undo the damage done by Blair when he brought in 50% of students getting degrees, so we lost a generation of trades and do not have the skilled labour to build the extra housing, but it is a start.
No way! .....’adult daycare centres’ might close? 😳
Sure do that and watch your economy sink to the level of Bangladesh. I spent 37 years reviewing people for company jobs in the USA and our corporations since 1990 ordered the HR departments to only considered someone with a degree of any job, even clerical. No degree, even worthless ones, no job interview.
same old tories
She is Labour
@@samhodgins9804 two sides of the same arse cheek. never forget iraq
how are we constantly in shortage? of housing, of skilled worker etc. what on earth have the universities being doing?
Let them close. The levels of salaries paid to staff/managers/academics are off the scale. These are businesses so cut ur cloth to suit otherwise shut up shop.
University Closures Would reduce the Migrant Levels. Every Cloud has a Silver Lining. We used to have things called Training Centres back in the 70s. Where People could go and Train Fulltime as Skilled Workers. Guess what the Government Closed Them Down. Councils had Training Centres to provide Carpenters, Electricians, Plumbers and Builders they Closed Them Down due to Cut Backs and gave out Contracts to Compaines. Companies used to Train People it was called an Apprenticeship. Until the Companies move to India and China for Cheap Labour and to avoid Government Polution and Labour Restrictions
Nearly 300,000 new apprenticeships a year in UK.
#facts
thatcher didn't close them down not en masse anyway its just that from 1979 till around 1984 there were no jobs and hence no investment and vice versa no real need to train people for jobs that don't exist so they were phased out. obviously the government needs to train people whether there is 1,000, 000 jobs available or no 1 job available..!
Because Labour doesn't have enough MPs for Starmer to appoint ministers from their ranks hence this blast from the past who was mired by MP expenses fraud allegations.
Apprentice pay £3.25p an hour under labour....
But Mr Bliar said we all needed degrees to get good jobs, but now there are more degrees than jobs, and even more employers paying poverty wages for people who have skills.
Bearing in mind how she abused and bullied when home sec its unbelievable that she's back in government someone truly evil i know i had to work with her IMO totally unfit.
Labour - privatise uni's then shut them down Labour making spending cuts - that will increase economic growth
Has she assumed responsibility for Iraq yet?
Labour should add VAT to university fees - but only for foreign students
There are over 3k Fashion Design graduates each year in the UK. Why ?
The governments mission is to keep everyone else happy but not it’s own people
There are no jobs .. she’s talking nonsense
We've all seen in recent months how much damage universities have done to our students, I would rather there was no universities
Stick to what yr good at Jackie "Fraud" allegedly....
Back in the days of large UK employers apprenticeships were the way!!!
Back in the days when we still had large UK employers, BT(Before Thatcher).
Cut the salaries of the Deans etc for a start as they are one of the highest so called public bodies that exist.
I worked with a woman who has a 1st class degree, she took this course at several different uni's and failed them all, so how come she has a 1st class degree now? She hasnt worked for a company for more than a year - she 's 45 years old. Says it all.
I guess the woman is a Ghost.
I hope she's talked to Blair. Education Education Education. Hahahaha
This was said by herself when she was Home Secretary,I’m out of my depth,Never a truer word spoken .
Apprenticeships and technical education cost money - where do people think it will come from? And those foreign students some people in the comments find objectionable pay rent and use local services, contributing to local economies. If some of the people commenting had developed the research and critical thinking skills that are taught in university, maybe they would be able to make a useful contribution to the discussion.
Galloway was right about this lady
well, theyre private businesses, charging fees and the rest....so let them fail, and be nationalized
Need to focus on the 16-18 year old group to get them skilled up for vocational skills. Universities also need to reduce the cost of engineering degrees for those that do have to pay for it.
This is word salad politics...
I always thought Blair went over the top with his slogan of education,we also needed tradesmen as well.
Most degrees aren't worth the time and expense. Bright young people should learn trades.
They can also learn trades at university. Unfortunately, some of those universities are the former polytechnics, and those are the ones without Russell Group-sized financial reserves.
Let them close some of the universities degrees are a laugh not worth the paper they are on
After 14 years of tory rule we have to be pragmatic and save what we can.
But who will analyse the scripts of Coronation Street if Unis get shuttered?
Britain needs industries and buisnesses, shops, pubs, clubs, etc. If there is none there is no work. There isnt jobs for British to go around on top of this the illegals flooding in are taking our jobs and keeping Britain's on benifits. All our big industries have closed leaving towns,and cities like ghost towns. We need our coal mines opened and mining jobs forget the green agenda we need our steel industries back and engineering jobs back the cotton industries back pottery also back so many big industries gone and left unemployment at record lvls.
She has verbal trots
hI jAQUI, FLIPPED ANY GOOD HOUSES RECENTLY?
Wacqui Spliff returns
Scrap GPhC assessment. It’s a crap way of assessing pharmacists. GPhC is just sieving money from pre registration pharmacists.
I worked as a contractor on several of them, and the most common degree being "studied" I seemed to see was the work avoidance degree.
Meanwhile in the USA our corporations have told their HR departments since the 1990s that if a person had no university degree, they could not be considered for ANY job, even clerical. I know, I just finished 37 years reviewing people for company jobs.
Grossly unfair. I know a recent graduate who has a First in Ethnic Dance. She is the best shelf stacker in our local supermarket by a mile.
Start with Oxbridge
Why are employers not investing in training new employees?
Because it's more expensive.
because it reduces the profits
I think am gonna withdraw my offer so the UK youths can study cause it will be a nice opportunity for them though!
Norway, Iceland, China, Canada .... keep expecting me!!!!!!!!
Jacqui constantly smirks...
Who will admit to voting for Starmer's Likud Party?
It is funny they say company so it needs to make money why do they use that terminology if it's state running it's not really a company
Universities are crazy expensive
And yet the money they get doesn’t remotely cover the cost of a degree.
The woman that George galloway has loathing hatred for lolo
Have to agree with other comments on here.
Jacqui sounds like a Tory.
Some could afford to close - because they really are institutions which offer very little academic credibility. I think as well, a lot of them should dump all their academic departments and become what they really are - polytechnics.
So... if they offer little academic credibility, they should close, but they should also cut their academics and stay open (as polytechnics)?
@@richardgale1287 Some should close, for instance there some which just technical or 6th form colleges before getting magically transformed into universities. Then I think the former polytechnics should be restored - that was I was getting at.
Is this "adverserial journalism"? Its just a big club. Political/media class.
Why are our universities run by people and not the government?
Vague, clichéd and lacking detail. I am worried!.
"Childe poverty" , in 2021 , Scotland s Nicola Sturgeon , MsP , member of Scottish ParLiament , suggestted , free meals for pupils in Schools accross Scotland to be , 👏👏👏🇬🇧
paid for by english and welsh taxes..!
not so
Scotland has its own tax system.
@@ScottishRoss27 "Scotland did not vouuuut to leave the EU" NicoLa Sturgeon in Mid 2022
@@ScottishRoss27 in 1995 , Here , in Moscow , Russia , at Lycee Francais de Moscou , School , English teacher , Gibbson , was Said , to be , From Scotland .
Why haven't been sent back yet