Are Space Marines Able To Copulate? - 40K Theories
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- While Space Marines, as a result of their various superhuman abilities, may be considered by some to be more than human, do these transhuman warriors lack an ability that is inherent to the rest of humanity as a whole; the ability to copulate and procreate?
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Asking the real questions, Inquisitor!
Also, yes. Space Marine gachimuchi is real and canon and nothing will convince me otherwise.
This is some genuine majorkill type shit I’ll we be flooding his DMs until he makes a video answering this question
No, majorkill might say you stole those questions!@@BLACKWOODPMC
@BLACKWOODPMC ask weshammer instead he's nicer and won't accuse you of theft
plot twist, the rogue trader was into handholding, and lucas was too embarrassed and confused, that he think it was "intercourse"
How lewd 😆.
Canon. 😂
*Absolute slaneshy* behavior....
40k theories Remleiz: verry careful with his words, dignified and verry articulate.
Adeptus podcasts Remleiz: *CHAOS PERSONIFIED*
Pretty much lol
TTS: CYBERDONG QUESTIONS
@@40KTheorieswill you do a follow up their like “Can the Primarchs reproduce” or “what if the Sensei were encountered during the Great Crusade”? That would be interesting
@@akumaking1 Maybe at some point in the future.
@@jan5558also tts: *what is... a throw?* _Remleiz meets window_
The real question is, could the Primarchs have children in the conventional way?
What makes you think Russ has not sired a armada of bastards,
The Emperor have given them Biomancy that change their height, Remember when the Primarch reached into titan sized gods? what if they could reverse that way?
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 You mean Lukas the Triskster?
With human women or genetically altered ones? Cause any vanilla lady getting knocked up by a Primarch is carrying the baby to term from within a dreadnought 😅
@@leekah9981 Yup,
“Can Space Marines have sexual intercourse?”
Slaanesh: “Not with that attitude, they can’t”
It's a real shame that by copyrights reasons, Remlei couldn't use Careless Whispers as the background music of this video.
They can always ask Allinall and ask for permission of "Careless Thu'um"
One would think that if a SM could copulate successfully, that their contribution of DNA would primarily just be a match for their normal pre-augmented form. Like they get a bunch of augments installed in them, but that doesn’t actually change their DNA. That’s why they need to have specific organs installed for storing the DNA of the other organs they get installed. Otherwise surely they could just any biological material as a template to produce new marines.
Now if we were talking about a Primarch, they seem to have been engineered from scratch to have the abilities they do naturally from birth, so it makes way more sense that their genetic makeup actually consists of all the extra organs and abilities that each Primarch has.
So in theory I would say that a Primarch could theoretically have a child. However given typical Primarch Biology, I doubt that any woman could survive the pregnancy afterwards. Assuming that a primarch’s biology is even compatible with a normal human in the first place.
The point is about "lashivious activities" and "reproduction".
I suggest they could use vita wombs to gestate the baby SM after artificial insemination of the eggs of the mother with the seed of the father.
Then, follow the question "Male or Female"?
either. I don't think either sex or gender is determined by dna, as evidenced by the fact that men can have daughters. If we take for granted that the augmentations 100% only work on men, that doesn't mean those men can no longer produce female children@@painlord2k
Bear in mind that, as children, the Primarchs were visibly no different than normal humans. They did, however, age very quickly, and prove themselves physically and mentally superior to their peers. So, giving birth to the child of a Primarch is perhaps not any more taxing than a normal child.
Now, actually handling the steps into naturally having the child? She’s gonna have to be on top, basically.
to quote the great and mighty Jeff of the blooming gold : "Life, uh, finds a way." :D
Roboute Guilliman: hmmm
Don’t you dare think about it Papa Smurf!
@@darthkai3621Calgar is Papa Smurf. Bobby G is Grandpa Smurf.
@@akumaking1so, that would make Emps Grand Grandpapa Smurf!
It would be a very well organized sexual encounter.
"And bring me another elf! This one's split!" I don't think Guilliman wants to go all the way with his girlfriend unless he uses toys. Tiny, tiny toys too big for his hands. Poor guy.
I always assume that the reasoning for not being sexually active is mostly because they the physical desire is suppressed by way of training, and that the marines don't really have gene alterations, just organ mutations. It would be like a human born to someone that had a heart transplant, the DNA of the new heart wouldn't change the DNA that the kid is born with
I think it’s safe to say that the conversion of a human into an astartes is far, far, far, far beyond a simple heart transplant.
IIRC the uplifting process effectively neuters the person undergoing it. On top of that psycho conditioning that the aspirants undergo pretty much stamps out any interest in the opposite sex.
Somewhere in the OLD (early 2nd I think)fluff I remember it talking about they were CHEMICALLY neutered by the armor. If they were out of armor long enough the chemical cocktail would wear off and space marines would be capable of normal sex and relations. It was just they rarely were out of armor long enough. It seemed like it mentioned that salamanders did not just stay with their families while on nocturn but actually would have children.
I'm not much for Space Marines having a sex life, however I do believe that there could be possibly, be a very low, biological possibilities. There is a high chance for any offspring to be mutated due to all the genetic altering that an Astartes goes through. But if there is even a slight possible chance for a child to be born, it would be interesting if, by random chances, that the child is "blessed" with one of the Adeptus Astartes abilities. Such as being able to see in the dark, able to handle toxins far greater, or Emperor forbid, the ability to learn memories by eating brains.
Since the conversion to the space marine is after conceptiion i cant see them inheriting something that isnt part of the original human formula. Unless they genesmiths changed the Dna itself which i doubt.
"I want brains, mother." - little Timmy
Depends on how deep in the "genes" the modification goes, but I'm pretty sure that if an astartes would have kids they would be mostly normal human, maybe being slightly larger and overall stronger than standard but not by much.
It could well be that despite being either totally infertile or simply mostly unable to produce viable offspring due to genetic incompatibilities, astartes are still capable of becoming physically aroused and engaging in coitus only with much less desire to do so, or much greater ability to suppress/resist their libido than a standard human man. Honestly I think that would more be fitting given their chapters are like the old medieval militant orders of the Catholic Church, where initiates would take vows of poverty, chastity etc but still physically capable of making money and making love. It would even make some sense that a chapter like the Space Wolves might be more likely to produce viable human offspring if/when they copulate due to the peculiarities of their geneseed and the unique genetic makeup of Fenrisians. Assuming a standard human female was even physically equipped to handle copulation with a 7'6", 700lbs, astartes anyway 😳😱🤔
There would be no mutations.
Bio-boosting organs are not genetic alterations.
Of all the chapters in the galaxy, the Rouge trader picks a space wolf? 😰 Guessing not many foot rubs or strolls along the beach in her future 😅
Honestly there probably would be. Many historical sources from the viking conquest of England state that the Vikings were actually more attractive to the English women because they treated the women better as well as bathed weekly and washed their hair. The Space Wolves being space vikings they might actually be the best option.
@@DegenerateWeeb64Dang. Who knew cleanliness was a high attraction trick!?
Dawn of Fire novels involves a Rogue Trader specifically from Fenris. It's more than possible that Lukas's inquisitor is also from Fenris.
Another thing to add to your reasons is the average age at which some Chapters recruit their new Space Marines. Last i knew, from a lore basis anyway, Space Wolves have a tendency to select their aspirants later in life. With more time given over to post-puberty normal existence, hypno indoctrination might not be as effective.
With Humanity's subconscious drive to survive, as a species, especially being on a death world, and the later start of trying to eliminate the mental drive, it would easily be a bit harder to completely eliminate the drive in the Space Wolves.
One of the older Codexes specifically and literally said Lukas The Trickster would go down into local Fenrisian villages to clap barmaid cheeks.
Can Space Marines wield their "Thunder Hammers" for more than combat?
Of course they can hit nails or spikes or posts with their thunder hammers. I do not see why "" are required for the words thunder hammer.
-Sister Innocentia.
In the Emperor's Gift novel was a scene of communal showers with inquisitorial retinue and grey knight squad, one warrioress of the retinue, impressed by said hammers, remarked how it's a shame they can't use those(implication obvious).
@@ivanivanovic5586 In one of the first Horus Hersey books one of the Rememberencers is caught by another ogling Garviel Loken as he is changing and he remarks to her about what a waste it was.. implying that they cannot perform and don't think in spicy ways anymore.
2:11 It's also worth noting that many fragmented marine companies have been folded into the Ultramarines chapter over the centuries.
A great number of them were born of a different geneseed.
It's even theorised that the members of traitor chapters who didn't turn to Chaos, were surreptitiously added to the Ultramarines' ranks.
If Astartes would have kids, then they'd be normal humans. The only thing they'd inherit from their fathers would be the genetic purity needed to be compatible with the geneseeds and organs.
The girls would need to have genetically pure partners so the purity of their fathers wouldn't go to waste.
Custodes have no sexual urges either? But what about Kitten and Shadowsun?
n o t c a n o n
not canon dude.
I think if the Space Marines could perform that way biologically, then the Emperor's Children would not be as focused on Drugs and Sound and be more like the Dark Eldar.
This isn't a theory, they blatantly tell you this answer in the books. Specifically the Space Wolves books. The Wolves continue to have sex if they wish. They still have all their bits, but they are unable to have children. This is by design as the Emperor made them to be a weapon, not a replacement for humanity.
In one of the Wolf books, a newly blooded battle brother walks into the hall and a veteran looks at the new guy and tells him to wait a moment. The vet looks at the new guy's face and eyes...then asks if his grandmother's name was 'x'. When the new guy looks surprised the vet smirks and just goes "I slept with your grandmother years ago... you have her eyes. You do her proud now, pup. Welcome to the brotherhood." I can only imagine the shock for the new guy in such a situation as the book follows the vet around a bit.
I think they would be able to have children but those children are of the original unaugmented individual - as the process of spermatogenesis wouldn’t be modified by any gene editing caused by the implantation process
Honestly didn't expect this one to pop up, lol I still stand on the idea Lukas never stopped having his bastard children
It’s funnier if it’s canon lol
Demonetized !?
Now, who is the insecure fig in UA-cam that Demonetized the first video.
The Sisters of Battle are VERY interested in topic. They're all asking for a friend of course.
Maybe with Black Templars for their Zeal, but most Sisters look at Space Marines as mutants or dislike the ones who don’t worship the Emperor
Lol
Emperors children during the siege of Terra need I say more?
Please for the love of everything pure and wholesome don’t.
Please do...the agony and the ecstasy
Apparently Bjorn the Fell-Handed was quite the ladies man before being put in a Dreadnought.
And why should that stop him?
@@nowhere474Hah
those Admech gals now find him even more attractive @@nowhere474
Didn't stop him AFTER entombment. He made a pass at a female Inquisitor (albeit a native Fenrisian) near the end of the events known as the Months of Shame.
Given most abilities of an astartes comes from surgically implantat organs, rather than organs grown after mutation, it seems unlikely any potential offspring would spontaneously grow anything resembling any of the 22 possible implants.
It seems more likely, to me, that the offspring might have an enhanced acceptance of those organs, or be born with some extra cromosones and come out destined for a brief and painful life, if they manage to even live that long. 🤔
Nope, they are more of a Brood Parasitism where they need reproduce through another vector and that vector is humans, so they will be invested in protecting them rather than replacing them.
Chaos Space Marines however, well they have discovered daemonclabula which allows them to sort of bypass that relationship in a way making it more of a predatory nature instead of a parasitic one.
I always assumed that they were capable, but uninterested. That they lacked a sex drive, and needed another motivation to do the deed.
This would explain why the Space Wolves would be notable for their sexual exploits. The Space Wolves work really hard to keep their image up as hard fighting, hard drinking, and hard... well ya'know, warriors, because that was what Rus wanted them to be. The initial Space Wolves also had a much higher number of late life Astartes conversions, with Russ's 500 companions offering to undergo the process. These men would have brought expectations about sexual prowess that the boys who made up most Legions lacked.
On the other hand, devotees of Slaanesh have the motivation of seeking sensation and pleasing their god. An Emperor's Children Marine is probably equally excited by a new sex act and a new form of torture, because they both represent new sensations.
Finally, let me give you a hypothetical: Suppose that Guilliman had ordered his Marines to get married. Suppose he had said, "Marriage is the bedrock Macraggian society, so every Ultramarine will have a female serf assigned to him as his wife/armorer." If he had said that, then the Ultramarines, and possibly all Codex compliant Chapters, would have wives they had sex with to this day. Again, it wouldn't be because they wanted to, they don't. It wouldn't even be because they loved them, they can't really. It would be because it was their duty, and because Guilliman expected every Ultramarine to do his duty.
Heh, they are designed to be the Emperor's warrior monks. Now why would he be so stupid as to allow one of the strongest bonds among humans to be formed? Are they capable of love? Sure. Attraction to others in a somewhat romantic or sensual manner? Sure, possibly.
Now, as for Lucas, even if the rod doesn't function, there are lots of other ways to perform in that manner without the procreative act. The trader might like being held down by a big man while usin friction against the armor.
As for a mutation? Yep, absolutely, which covers the Chaos stuff.
Heck Astartes may be rewired so killing for the Emperor gives them a "lift"...
So, i agree with the pretense of the video, but i don't take anything Lukas the Trickster says at face value. He seems like the type to use innuendo for something unrelated just for the sake of trolling. He could be F@king the rogue trader, or he could go on short-term missions for her. But personally, i wouldn't be surprised if it was both.
it's probably the case that within the setting it self, it's not a absoulte that marine can or can't have sex,
the way most 40k lore is written clarity of information is not a real thing, you can't always find objective truth about things, mostly the opinion or the character or information they hear from someone else.
that being said, if i had to guess or leave it to my imagination, then i like to belive that they have the tools but don't have the software......... but in theory the software can be installed.
like say with emperor's children or other chapters that fall to slaanesh worship, it's probably the case that before the corruption, the chemical compesition in the brain prevented them but, but post corruption it changed.
Regarding Lucas the Trickster ... with his name it is just as possible to he was purposely implying at carnal acts ... while it was not true .. ie tricking people into believing he does the deed still ...
That said physically they are definitely capable of copulating ... but outside of some exceptions most just do not have the drive to do so ....
Well you almost said it. But you're correct towards the end of your video, that not all space marines have time for attachments. But i still keep seeing that the space wolf lore found in the codexes over the years keeps getting overlooked. Its stated that they would celebrate in their great halls in true Viking fantasy style with alcohol food and women, and it's stated that they would ravish the women too. So if anyone knows if space marines can have children its the women of Fenris.
It's been 10,000 years. (Life, we'll find, a way.)
Be sure to check out our Daemon Engines lore video from just over a week or so ago, in case you missed it ;)
So do the sisters of battle get afflicted with the white thirst?
There was also a scene of chaos space marine is sexual activity in the novel Farseer. Also, if some could have children; what kind of children would they have?
No … the only thing that gets them off is serving the emperors will.
"Life, uh, finds a way." The Emperor, probably
The real question is if there is any woman capable of surviving these guys.
I am just glad we got 2 theories in one day. Glad to see this one again
Maybe this is the way GW gives us female space marines. They all are just daughters of Lukas.
For most of the Chapters in the Imperium, I think it's a varying combination of treatments, training, and being almost constantly on campaign that keeps them from really thinking about it other than the occasional thought/private observation of something/someone beautiful. The rest who interact with mortals on a regular basis like the Salamanders, who I believe visit their families when they can, worry about it far less and are much more balanced individuals for it.
The Space Wolves just do what works best and know how to relax at the end of the day...I think we can all appreciate that.
This is the reason why you never see the Emperor's children much in the galaxy. Always in there cells rubbing one off in the dark.
Answering the question: unless the Space Marines are explicitly said to have been castrated, then yes, they can still copulate. Remember, Space Marines are born as humans, majority having fully functioning reproductive organs. However, there are a few reasons why we do not see Space Marine romances. Getting the obvious "it's not a romance setting" reason out first, Space Marines are conditioned via hypno-therapy to lower their "passionately hugging" drive and focus on being a living weapon. Exceptions exist like Bjorn, who even made a pass at a female Inquisitor (granted, she was born on Fenris) during the Months of Shame, but those are rare.
Plus, biologically, Space Marines are much taller and bulkier than baseline humans, so you can work out the physical implications of a Space Marine "passionately hugging" a normal human woman.
I always assumed the sexual suppression came from their mental conditioning, which would explain why chaos influenced marines wouldn’t have the same suppression (either they broke the suppression or never received it to begin with due to their more rudimentary recruitment practices) nor would chapters that don’t have as much psychological conditioning (such as the wolves who are shown to prefer storytelling and inherent instinct over hypno-training)
Despite the terminology, Space Marines are more bio-augmented than genetically augmented. They get their abilities through special organs. So, I would think that a hypotherical child of a Space Marine post-augmentation would be no more enhanced than the child of a cyborg, and only have a slight advantage in becoming one, if only for having a proven previous genetic compatibility.
I always assumed that it is possible, but they don’t do due to the indoctrination. The sterility makes sense but I would love to see a divergent chapter try it to create more aspirants. Also really curious what a “half Astartes” would look like.
I think it may also depend on what age the aspirant started undoing transformation. IIRC Lukas began his transformation in his teens. Also, I'm pretty sure that quite a few of the first Fenrisians to become Astartes were full grown adults who fought beside Leman in the days before discovery by the Emperor. Many died in the attempt but there were also man who survived.
I usually assume they adopt or marry a single mother.
I saw a comic called the fallen or something by Chaos voices.
Where a fallen astartes aka dark angels very top secret problem. Retried from his life of war and a survivor of the horus heresy. So he lived his life as a farmer with his lovely family. Till the dark angel showed up to finish the job. However it doesn't end with a gunshot but left ambiguous. Until a video was released about the various endings.
Rem you just had to ask
The answer is: I dunno.
But its kinda hot, no?
Another thing to add to your reasons is the average age at which some Chapters recruit their new Space Marines. Last i knew, from a lore basis anyway, Space Wolves have a tendency to select their aspirants later in life. With more time given over to post-puberty normal existence, hypno indoctrination might not be as effective.
With Humanity's subconscious drive to survive, as a species, especially being on a death world, and the later start of trying to eliminate the mental drive, it would easily be a bit harder to completely eliminate the drive in the Space Wolves.
Isn't it canon that both Marines and Primarchs have their sex drives switched of, because Emps was smart enough to realise he would create a new Aristocracy full of superhuman infighting otherwise?
Guys space marines have fingers and power fists. There ya go.
In every meaningful sense the Astartes are a distinct gender of their own, with a universal expectation of undergoing biological transition through a regimen of hormone therapy and surgeries that make testosterone gel and titty skittles look like a multi-vitamin. Their expected social role is hugely distinct from male or female, their relationship with the reproduction of the species as a whole is nil (except perhaps as to act as the midwives of history), and their reproduction within themselves is a totally distinct phenomenon with the whole gene-seed thing. Their only accepted sexual orientation is apparently to be asexual (not celibate even, but ace). Their use of he/him pronouns (mostly 'brother' really) in Low Gothic is just about the only thing that does match up to any existing gender.
Whether they even retain their sex organs is irrelevant to the point that it isn't resolved in canon (and wouldn't really even need to be consistent between all astartes). That they even all start off as male is inconsequential. If it were clarified at some point that some of the neophytes actually started female bodied it wouldn't mean squat, they'd look the same once they go through astartes-puberty, at most with some differences in the organs that their apothecaries care least about.
Regarding that Rogue Trader, it's entirely possible for the favors Lukas refers to to be sexual in nature even if he has neither interest in sex nor any working sex organs. If there's something he has that the Trader is interested in, it could be up for trade.
Did the Emperor purposely make his creations sterile as a way to prevent his work from spreading out of control?
ROUGHLY 1000 chapters of Astartes are ASSUMED to exist.
Isn't there a scene where an Astartes has to attend a banquet with some aristocracy and one of the ladies there is basically throwing herself at him trying to seduce him, but he just physically can't understand what she's trying to achieve.
In my personal head-canon, the Astartes have all the right and functioning equipment, but there's just no libido. Probably stripped away by the process of becoming an Astartes, and the indoctrination they go through centres their entire worldview through the lens of war, it's many facets, although we have seen some Astartes break their conditioning through different methods.
I also think the logistics of the act would be difficult, you'd need to find a person willing/able to accommodate an Astartes, and considering how massive they are and the amount of testosterone that must get pumped into them, they're probably hung like horses.
But maybe the Emperor's Children can due to Slannesh's influence bringing everything back "online" so to speak. Another thing to consider is whether they can copulate or produce offspring, I don't think they're chemically castrated, just functionally infertile, their DNA must be so far removed from human that there isn't anything it could naturally join together with to create something new, however that's probably a question for Fabius Bile to consider.
The Space Wolves would seem the most likely loyalist legion to me because they managed to circumvent the immunity to alcohol issue pretty easy, and their whole Viking inspiration wouldn't be complete without bedding a few Fenrisian maidens here and there.
If GW introduced Astartes having children I wouldn't be opposed to it, as it wouldn't break the lore in my opinion, I mean even the Emperor had kids running around in the old lore with the Sensei, it would be interesting to see what a half human/Astartes would be like though, better than Guardsmen/Sister of Battle but weaker than pure blooded Astartes, it would be an interesting route for the lore to go in.
It's also a shame GW retconned the old half-eldar from the earlier lore, allowing humans and eldar to reproduce with each other could make for some really good storylines, especially when you consider how many humans are enslaved by the dark-eldar there could be entire factions of Eldar/Human people living in Commorragh.
I know at least some space marines are mentally conditioned to not have any sex drive because it is stated that this is done to the night lords early in the night lords omnibus
Physically, yes. Psychologically, not really. They can do it but they have no drive/desire to do so
This is infact a video that was posted to UA-cam of all time.
Any chance of a upload based on what happens when you die in 40k? Before/during/after the Emperor was placed on the Throne?
Lukas seems like the Ciaphas Cain of the Astartes.
It's also possible, though, that Lukas is a compulsive liar.
Ragnar blackmane did before he was chosen to become a space wolf and there is a rumor his descendants are still around.
I remember Horus Heresy 1 when Ignace Karkasy asked himself if Space Marines also have huge shlongs.
Good question, though.
I’ve read Horus Rising a few times and I have no memory of that. Which chapter was this in?
I always imagine the emperor didn’t remove the requirements for it but you know severely delay that process.
And most likely a space marine would die before that severely delay ends.
Hold on. Is England 7 weeks ahead of the US? I thought it was 6 hours
I think Lukas the trickster had a few kids or run ins with tribes women back on fenris
If you ask the Emperor: "They better not be!"
For the language on the books and the general meaning of the contexts used, I always thought Astartes to be Neutered during the elevation process. Now I'm sure the devil in the details is that the amount of organ neutered surely differs depending on the chapter doing the process. Chapters like the Wolfs and the Emperor's Children probably kept the "Acting" piece intact, while the rest remove it all. What is a given is that the hormone producing glands are removed to have a full control over the growth process, they do mention removing other hormone glands for this purpose (Fabius Vile, Fulgrim novel).
The White Scars and the Space Wolves still have sex with human women. This is canon. Both will only accept aspirants that have already gone through puberty. The Scars will even find an aspirant a woman who is willing to have sex with them if they have never had sex before to ensure they have experienced at least once in case they die. The Wolves assume anyone badass enough to become an aspirant has already had sex.
The 'wild' legions do not mutilate their genitals in any way. Other chapters tend to move the testes to be inside the body and remove the rest to make the armor just easier to design around. Neither the Wolves or Scars are willing to do this. Now, they cannot have children. This is a known fact as the Emperor made the astartes as a weapon and not a replacement for humanity.
The genohounds/new Man of fabius bile can and are procreating with one another sooo it sems possible on some level.
But, in the words of Jeff Goldblum, "life finds a way"!
I can see not allowing them to reproduce or have desires that would be a form of control over them (something I can see the Emperor wanting) but on the other hand if they could reproduce what type of children would they create? Humans if not outright actual SM but are more agreeable to the process? Easier to make? IF they could cut down on the rejection rate their numbers would skyrocket.
It might be possible, but probably only under controlled circumstances as Space Marines seem to lack most desires normal humans have, especially those closely associated with emotions such as love.
So I feel it's possible, but not something that'd actually happen unless under specific circumstances.
Sisters of Comfort
*looks at the Slaaneshi Marines* Preeeeeetty sure the answer's yes.
So thats why they made Callidus assasins.
*laughs in emperors children*
Could be a neat angle if done right. Would think the offspring would make for even better marines? Maybe Cawl coulda figured out a way for them to do it, or too enhance the mothers too survive? Different route for primaris.
That thumbnail picture, though... either that Ultramarine is really small for a space marine or the Sister of Battle is really tall. Or both.
Tactical rock.
Slaanesh: "It's free real-estate."
Anyone else getting a vision of a horde of BAMFs, made up from “bonking” of number of dark elder mothers and a captive space wolves space marine? Just me?
Makes perfect sense that the Emperor would remove the ability for them to procreate thus having complete control over their numbers and I would not at all be surprised if he intended to get rid of them at some point just like the Thunder Warriors. Apart from that there is the question if their altered genetics could result in viable offspring and if a regular woman could carry it to term and considering the size and force of a Space Marine, could she even survive the copulation part.
Although I am sure Slaanesh or Tzeench would find a way
He would not remove the Astartes. The massacre at Mount Ararat was a shameful, and tragic event, and the Emperor didn't originally intend to kill the Cataegis. Space Marines are stable and disciplined soldiers, no need to kill them. Plus every single Primarch would immediately rebel, and there is no way that the Custodes could hold of 18 Legions.
The space marine are nothing but tools of war. With hints to failsafe build into them that have been forgotten.
The space marine would absolutely be discarded once they out lived there usefulness.
There is no point for a tool to have a life outside of war. So them being aloud to procreate would be viewed as a pointless distraction that a weapon should not have.
Behold...... the thirst.
Asking the real questions. Aren’t we?
I would think so. But, they don't have a sex drive to want to.
comment for the comment god!
Tbh. Astartes should have zero sex drive. As designed, they are manufactured for a single purpose. Large scale combat to retake the Galaxy. A sex drive is a distraction to their intended purpose or programming.
This sort of stuff is where Lore versus novels clash heads. Just like everyone going through the Scolar. Everyone is windwiped and a different personally implants. yet, we have Cain, Ravenor and Eisenhorn etc. We shall just skip over the Tab A being waaaay too big to fit into Slot B of a standard Human Female. Starting to get ranty. So I will stop here.
Cope harder Coomers. The Emperor would not put such a possibility into his design. Sorry. If he had, we would have seen it in the lore by now (Space Marines in relationships, with children, ect), especially with 10,000 years worth of opportunities.
I think the Emperors Children have already asked this question, many times.
They are able to copulation but incapable of sexual reproduction
No their is no chaos mutation or mad experiments who can change that, you must confuse with the chaos pretty marines a fan made chapter from 4chan, where the chaos pretty marines kidnap loyalist pretty marines scout and R🔞 theme (yeah it’s pretty bad) thanks to slannesh mutation. But their is more than one way to have such intimate relation, Lukas the trickster have some intimate relation with an inquisitor nothing is really elaborate on this, so maybe his bee can still polenize, but I personally think the wolf use his tongue to… make her flower blow. But you are free to interpret this.
i read years ago in a wikia, so can be totaly bullshit, that ultramarines used to marry noblewomen of the ultramar èlite for political reasons and to facilitate the chapter recruitment.
If there's female primarchs and female space marines, then they could've done that. Their DNA is so different than humans that they aren't human anymore. Just like humans don't do with monkeys
I wish I could remember which book in the Horus Heresy but I thought one mentioned something about the Custodes genetic line. That could have been referring to the lineage of the Custodes themselves as a gene line but I read it as they could sire children
I'm honestly surprised chaos marines can't reproduce or have women space marines, using the power of the warp.
Sounds like they made genetic modifications to them rather then also cut them, lukas the jackal wolf all I need to say he never stopped lol
That corrupted Emporers children space marine has a paw print on his belly. Hes clearly a furry lol
Finally, some good theories for a change. (This is a joke, to clarify. Love your stuff, my dude.)
The emperors children sure did! Perhaps Bile equipped them with hydraulic....um
oh, the copulating part is no problem. However the reproducing part might be unclear.