This is awesome. I have been racking my brain on a mobile waterer solution for my IPPs. Chuck saved the day. Not sure how I didn’t catch this in my video feed. Next Saturday’s project has been identified
IBCs are the best things on the farm! Storage, housing, water, etc! You can pipe the drain water elsewhere to let the pigs play in the water in a different place.
I wonder if it would be worth taking the plastic that you cut out and maybe drill a few holes at the top, attach it with wire and make it kind of a swing door. Maybe that would help keep them from getting all the way in and keep more debre out. Also, I feel like if it becomes an issue with the pigs getting in and messing with the float valve pvc piece, maybe you could move it back the the rear of the tote a secure it to the back wall. Probably do that with a few elbows or maybe even drill an new spot up top.
Looks like a great concept for spring and summer months , cold climates or winters that water hose would freeze, I could be wrong in your system , but my hoses freeze in the winter
We just got 4 pigs different breeds so seperate but the valve would work in a pickle barrel. Then just hit the water daily wont overfill! Doesnt stop them digging but that's not a current issue yet ! Awesome idea, thanks
Awesome design and love all your videos as I’m preparing to get into this life style next year. Only thing I’d add to the design would be a shit off valve at the end of the hose where it connects to the pvc pipe that way you won’t have to shut off the main source just that like when moving the contraption or if you have a leak due to the pigs breaking the pvc pipe won’t have to run back to shut it off. Keep the videos coming please
Thanks for the laugh! "They'd take turns running the nipple and then dig a wallow big enough to sink a Volkswagen" 🤣🤣🤣 Love the tote waterer design, but doubt it'll work for our brutes who like to flip anything and everything over, but it would definitely be awesome for our sheep and horses!
I would just cut out the 55 gallon pickle jar and do same thing but use the ibc tote as the source gravity feed it put it up on pallets and then disconnect it and take back to water source..in hard to reach water source.
That’s a great idea. Would you have to figure out a water level height (height of the hole in the side) to make sure its heavy enough so they don’t rub on it and flip it over? I like the idea requested above asking if you could do a video showing the construction of one of these. Thanks Chuck!
So the size and location of the hole are based on Jordan Green's design. We've had it in service for over a week now and they don't seem to want to push it around........yet. hahaha. Appreciate ya'll watching.
Wonder how these hold up in cold weather. And their sturdiness. Our pigs seems to break, yank, pull, destroy anything we do for a watering system and we are trying to find something sturdy that they cannot knock over.
Don’t forget to paint your tank to make it UV resistant otherwise it’ll fall apart soon. How do you stop the mosquitoes from breading in the open water?
I feel like you could have the same result and have a lot less water waste if you used a smaller container. This one here can only water one pig at a time because of the hole size.. Would be a better idea maybe to take a trough that's got an edge just high enough for the pigs to get their heads in, fill it with some concrete up to about 5 inches from the top, have a wide PVC tube in the middle with some holes drilled in it to house that float valve apparatus, then position it so it would keep the tough filled only a couple of inches high. That way the pigs can get a drink from any direction, it's too heavy to knock over, and the amount of water sitting there collecting dirt spit and mosquitoes is minimal. :)
I enjoy the vids, but please fix your audio levels. I have to turn your videos way up to hear you then get the ear bleeds from the commercials at max volume.
How far are you running the hose to get to the water source? My concern is for the integrity of the hose once it gets exposed to anything that I might graze in the field.
Wound have been better to use the nipple instead of cutting the hole on the tank. Would have had zero water contamination and the pigs wouldn't be able to tamper with the float valve. Still a great idea🖒
I'm glad this video was suggested to me and I found your channel I was just trying to figure a water solution as the one I've been looking it is super expensive and then I have to ship it as well!
Yea it's so simple and I wish I'd thought about it 🤦♀️ The only thing I think we will try and add if we make it, is some wheels just where when you tip it they will roll so you can move it a bit easier .. I'll run it by the husband/financier when he gets in from chores 🤣
It is a MUCH better design on the 55 gallon barrel to connect a short 8-12" piece of garden hose to it and then put the nipples on the end of that. That creates a bit of give and so they don't rip the nipples out of the side of the hard plastic tank. This water is filthy and one with cup waterers or nipples would be much better.
If you get some time, check out the Wolki Farm pastured pigs setup, they are in Australia, really cool waterer, ibc tote on a trailer with shade structure
Instead of drilling in the cap in the middle, put it on the opposite side of the cut out. The pigs can’t reach all the way across to mess with the valve.
I’ve got a question what would you do in the winter with this set up? I have a suggestion on if the pigs are pushing on the pvc holding the float valve you might could put a 90 at the top and run that pvc to the back of the tank instead of the middle and that should eliminate their ability to push on the pvc holding the valve... just an idea 💡
Sorry. Didn't answer your question. We unhook the line, life the float out of the water and let it drain so it doesn't freeze. When it warms up we reconnect it and put it back to work.
Go to the channel hidden heights farm type n pig waterer he has one made out of stock tank it's a continuous water situation for the 🐖 🐖 🐖 pigs . Thanks for sharing have a good day . Good to see Hellen up and doing well kinda sad she didn't make the brood sow cut she seems so sweet but understand
Can't see any reason it would not work for cows or any type of livestock. Except chickens. We had a chicken get into one of them. Fascinating fact, chickens can't swim. 😆
What do you do in the winter when a hard freeze comes along? We rarely have freezes here but I’m already thinking ahead to figure out what to do. Before long our pigs will be a couple 100 yards from a water source.
Jordan has a "frost free" drinker that I'm going to build. We don't get a lot of hard freezes here either but we can get a cold snap or two during the winter. I've been thinking about building a water trailer with 2 IBC totes and a pump to shuttle water back and forth for times when we have to cut the hoses off. Not sure what I'm going to do this winter myself. Plan to have a lot more pigs this winter than in years past.
And add in the cost of water hoses. Where the pigs or going here we need about 1,500' of hose. I like this pig waterer and will probably setup a gravity bulk tank for water so the hose run will be one to two hundred feet at the most. Then find an affordable water tank on a trailer to fill the bulk tank. Gonna need to sell a LOT of bacon!
It does a little. Don’t low too often so it’s not a big deal to mow right up to the hose, jump off, move it and get back to mowing. There is a lot of extra out there right now.
@@SheratonParkFarms Here when the farm-boy gets on the mower he won't get off for anything but food! Hoses, extension hoses, cats, electric fence wire, drainage pipes, he just mows right over the top of it. And when he destroys something, "It's the fault of whoever left it there".
What if you just put the auto fills in your 55 gal drums? I might just do that honestly. We're having piglets soon so I'm worried about them getting into it.
That tote doesn't seem to stay clean . My barrels with hog spouts stay clean I can put as many as I need so not to fill everyday .I like the tote just dont like the dirty water but they do prevent a big mud hole .
First time seeing this but what I would do is not put a hole for pigs on that white tote. I would put nibbles on and still have that water pump thing inside.... interesting
Thanks. The reason we don't have nipple is because pigs will stand there and hold the nipple open and run water out to create a huge mud hole next to their water. Part of the design is to eliminate waste and destruction around the watering point.
What happens with smaller pigs, do you use a different setup? It doesn't seem like the amount of water held in the bottom is a whole lot, do you guys have freezes where you are, do you keep the water on to the tote 24/7?
Thinking about a design for the smaller pigs. May use the same style IBC with a shorter front on it. It is self filling so the water level stays the same. Doesn’t need to hold a lot of volume that way. There is a frost free version that we are going to be building soon. That will be our winter version. We do get some freezes but not long stretches of below freezing weather.
If you dont want pigs to break them, maybe have it come through the top by the ibc wall furthest from the pig hole in the front. Also, whats the youngest pig that can use this waterer? How many pigs can realistically use this?
Looks like a good deal. I have mine on the nipples which are a pressure system. They so far haven’t done the shift system to hold it open yet. Guess I’ve got dumb hogs haha. Have you thought of putting a flap over the opening? I was wondering if that would keep it a little cleaner and possibly less would evaporate. Though I’m in blowing sand territory down here in AZ.
That’s luck! Mine love to hold them open and create a big mud hole. I think it’s the muddy faces that causes them to get dirty. Evaporation isn’t an issue at 1000% humidity here in the south. 🤣🤣
I bought it at lowes then when we built the second one I couldn't find it so we had to go with another style. Its a 3/4PVC to garden hose connector. Sometimes the folks in the plumbing section will tell you that's not an option but it is. May try a plumbing supply store.
Yes. I have 3 of them now. Work great. We’ve made the inlet pipe on top longer so that it extends past the edge of the tote on top. That’s the only modification.
Is your IBC tote food grade? Do you know the previous contents? I'm looking for local totes in my area & it seems many of them say they previously contained chemicals. Wondering if I can clean them sufficiently for pig water.
I’m sure they probably could. The trick I think is making the hole high enough so they can’t easily step in and small enough so they can only get their head in.
We’ll have to see if it gets good enough to freeze this year. Jordan Green had a frost resistant version we will probably make to use of it gets really cold for an extended period of time. Thanks for watching!
you could put the whole float valve and pipe inside of a 3”PVC pipe to protect it from the pigs messing with it
This is awesome. I have been racking my brain on a mobile waterer solution for my IPPs. Chuck saved the day. Not sure how I didn’t catch this in my video feed. Next Saturday’s project has been identified
IBCs are the best things on the farm! Storage, housing, water, etc! You can pipe the drain water elsewhere to let the pigs play in the water in a different place.
Very true! Thanks for watching.
I wonder if it would be worth taking the plastic that you cut out and maybe drill a few holes at the top, attach it with wire and make it kind of a swing door. Maybe that would help keep them from getting all the way in and keep more debre out.
Also, I feel like if it becomes an issue with the pigs getting in and messing with the float valve pvc piece, maybe you could move it back the the rear of the tote a secure it to the back wall. Probably do that with a few elbows or maybe even drill an new spot up top.
You have gears turning in my head. I like it!
Awesome. Plan on doing a full build video showing how to put it together. Pretty simple though. Thanks for watching
@@SheratonParkFarms what is your water source? Mine would be on a hill and thinking about 2 of them and having gravity feed the pig waterer.
We are on a well but that should work just fine.
Really appreciate your videos. It's taking a lot of the mystery out of planning our pastured pig operation. Thanks so much for sharing.
Glad to help. Good luck on your operation.
i used the same concept .. but used old bathtubes , float valves out of old toilets . Free materials are the best materials
cool idea. im looking at something like this but im leaning towards the barrel. just to keep things clean. how do you clean these?
Can't wait to try this out to see if it works out better. Thanks for sharing.
Hope you like it! Thanks for watching.
Have a similar set up , without cutting the hole . Working great no more having to stand there or haul water. Been about 3 weeks no issues.
how do they access the water without the hole?
@@MadelineVail We will never know.
Terrific system. I have one of those plastic water boxes. Gonna see if I can duplicate your system. Thanks for sharing!!
Love this! (Since I prefer to choose where their mud wallows go!)
Looks like a great concept for spring and summer months , cold climates or winters that water hose would freeze, I could be wrong in your system , but my hoses freeze in the winter
Interesting method, fixing to get 3 feeders, so checking things out. Thanks for sharing this
No problem!
We just got 4 pigs different breeds so seperate but the valve would work in a pickle barrel. Then just hit the water daily wont overfill! Doesnt stop them digging but that's not a current issue yet ! Awesome idea, thanks
Thought about doing that for weaning piglets and small feeders.
Awesome design and love all your videos as I’m preparing to get into this life style next year. Only thing I’d add to the design would be a shit off valve at the end of the hose where it connects to the pvc pipe that way you won’t have to shut off the main source just that like when moving the contraption or if you have a leak due to the pigs breaking the pvc pipe won’t have to run back to shut it off. Keep the videos coming please
Great idea. The new one has a thumb valve at the end of the line so we can shut it off. Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for the laugh! "They'd take turns running the nipple and then dig a wallow big enough to sink a Volkswagen" 🤣🤣🤣
Love the tote waterer design, but doubt it'll work for our brutes who like to flip anything and everything over, but it would definitely be awesome for our sheep and horses!
Great addition to pig management!
Thanks Terry. It’s made a real difference so far!
Those are some happy pigs.
Nice job thank you for sharing. God bless y’all.
Do one on the build. Show how ya hooked the platform to the tote please . Great job way better than $400 to $ 500 for the ones that they sell
I’ll do that. Super easy to build and easy to show how. Thanks
Fantastic idea! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I would just cut out the 55 gallon pickle jar and do same thing but use the ibc tote as the source gravity feed it put it up on pallets and then disconnect it and take back to water source..in hard to reach water source.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Ingenious!.....and cheap for the diy. Thanks for sharing. 👍
What if thier young? Would u have to have several different ones as they grow? Or do you just adjust the ramp?
Thank you for keeping your veido on great idea also save on the water bill if you don't have a well
I like this set up but was curious about how this would work in the winter months when the temperature drops below freezing?
one option (and idk about the float valve) you could use pex instead of PVC cuz pex isn't supposed to bust it's supposed to expand with the ice
Thanks for sharing !
Appreciate y’all watching!
Clever design, might be worth talking to a manufacturer once you've ironed out all the kinks.
Pigs, plus float valve, plus mud, equals stuck float valve.... it happens with my Brower field waterers...
That’s a great idea. Would you have to figure out a water level height (height of the hole in the side) to make sure its heavy enough so they don’t rub on it and flip it over? I like the idea requested above asking if you could do a video showing the construction of one of these. Thanks Chuck!
So the size and location of the hole are based on Jordan Green's design. We've had it in service for over a week now and they don't seem to want to push it around........yet. hahaha. Appreciate ya'll watching.
Wonder how these hold up in cold weather. And their sturdiness. Our pigs seems to break, yank, pull, destroy anything we do for a watering system and we are trying to find something sturdy that they cannot knock over.
Don’t forget to paint your tank to make it UV resistant otherwise it’ll fall apart soon. How do you stop the mosquitoes from breading in the open water?
Never had an issue with mosquitos in the water......yet. Will keep an eye on them this year. Maybe add a little ACV?
have you ever had one try to climb inside the waterer? look like a pretty large hole for when they ae young
I feel like you could have the same result and have a lot less water waste if you used a smaller container. This one here can only water one pig at a time because of the hole size.. Would be a better idea maybe to take a trough that's got an edge just high enough for the pigs to get their heads in, fill it with some concrete up to about 5 inches from the top, have a wide PVC tube in the middle with some holes drilled in it to house that float valve apparatus, then position it so it would keep the tough filled only a couple of inches high. That way the pigs can get a drink from any direction, it's too heavy to knock over, and the amount of water sitting there collecting dirt spit and mosquitoes is minimal. :)
great idea, thx!
Glad you liked it!
Extremely useful. Thank you
Thanks Paul. Glad it was helpful. Appreciate y’all watching
Y'all better have a back siphon valve
I enjoy the vids, but please fix your audio levels. I have to turn your videos way up to hear you then get the ear bleeds from the commercials at max volume.
How far are you running the hose to get to the water source? My concern is for the integrity of the hose once it gets exposed to anything that I might graze in the field.
They like to keep cool
Wound have been better to use the nipple instead of cutting the hole on the tank. Would have had zero water contamination and the pigs wouldn't be able to tamper with the float valve. Still a great idea🖒
I thought he said he tried that and the pigs just lean on the nipple and make a hole big enough to park a Volkswagen in.
I'm glad this video was suggested to me and I found your channel
I was just trying to figure a water solution as the one I've been looking it is super expensive and then I have to ship it as well!
Awesome! Glad it was helpful. Completely understand trying to be as cost efficient as possible. Appreciate y’all watching.
Yea it's so simple and I wish I'd thought about it 🤦♀️
The only thing I think we will try and add if we make it, is some wheels just where when you tip it they will roll so you can move it a bit easier .. I'll run it by the husband/financier when he gets in from chores 🤣
Haha. Yeah. Run it by him. A simple hand truck or appliance dolly may work.
It is a MUCH better design on the 55 gallon barrel to connect a short 8-12" piece of garden hose to it and then put the nipples on the end of that. That creates a bit of give and so they don't rip the nipples out of the side of the hard plastic tank. This water is filthy and one with cup waterers or nipples would be much better.
If you get some time, check out the Wolki Farm pastured pigs setup, they are in Australia, really cool waterer, ibc tote on a trailer with shade structure
I will also add, this is a really cool system too, but I'm wondering if you could marry both ideas together.
Checked them out last night. Cool setup. May try to incorporate some of their stuff. Thanks for the tip!
What about WINTER time? That water hose is gonna freeze solid once is at 32 degrees and under
Instead of drilling in the cap in the middle, put it on the opposite side of the cut out. The pigs can’t reach all the way across to mess with the valve.
Good job brother
Thanks!
Good idea
thanks. We love them.
I’ve got a question what would you do in the winter with this set up? I have a suggestion on if the pigs are pushing on the pvc holding the float valve you might could put a 90 at the top and run that pvc to the back of the tank instead of the middle and that should eliminate their ability to push on the pvc holding the valve... just an idea 💡
Great idea. Thanks
Sorry. Didn't answer your question. We unhook the line, life the float out of the water and let it drain so it doesn't freeze. When it warms up we reconnect it and put it back to work.
@@SheratonParkFarms After I asked this I watched the video where you explain that lol
Go to the channel hidden heights farm type n pig waterer he has one made out of stock tank it's a continuous water situation for the 🐖 🐖 🐖 pigs . Thanks for sharing have a good day . Good to see Hellen up and doing well kinda sad she didn't make the brood sow cut she seems so sweet but understand
Ingenious!!!!! Would this work for cows.?
Can't see any reason it would not work for cows or any type of livestock. Except chickens. We had a chicken get into one of them. Fascinating fact, chickens can't swim. 😆
Thank you for the info
Awesome idea
What do you do in the winter when a hard freeze comes along? We rarely have freezes here but I’m already thinking ahead to figure out what to do. Before long our pigs will be a couple 100 yards from a water source.
Jordan has a "frost free" drinker that I'm going to build. We don't get a lot of hard freezes here either but we can get a cold snap or two during the winter. I've been thinking about building a water trailer with 2 IBC totes and a pump to shuttle water back and forth for times when we have to cut the hoses off. Not sure what I'm going to do this winter myself. Plan to have a lot more pigs this winter than in years past.
Great idea. What would you do in winter for non feeder pigs? Thanks
We'll leave them on the same system. Our winters aren't that harsh here and we can turn them off for a day or so if we have a freeze.
And add in the cost of water hoses. Where the pigs or going here we need about 1,500' of hose. I like this pig waterer and will probably setup a gravity bulk tank for water so the hose run will be one to two hundred feet at the most. Then find an affordable water tank on a trailer to fill the bulk tank. Gonna need to sell a LOT of bacon!
What a great idea. Do you find the pigs try and get in that hole for a swim ??
No. They don't have any interest in climbing in.
Cool design. With having all that hose out long term does it make it tough to mow fields the hoses are running across?
It does a little. Don’t low too often so it’s not a big deal to mow right up to the hose, jump off, move it and get back to mowing. There is a lot of extra out there right now.
@@SheratonParkFarms Here when the farm-boy gets on the mower he won't get off for anything but food! Hoses, extension hoses, cats, electric fence wire, drainage pipes, he just mows right over the top of it. And when he destroys something, "It's the fault of whoever left it there".
Let us know if the pigs ever figure out how to crawl inside of it to get cooled off.
What if you just put the auto fills in your 55 gal drums? I might just do that honestly. We're having piglets soon so I'm worried about them getting into it.
That tote doesn't seem to stay clean . My barrels with hog spouts stay clean I can put as many as I need so not to fill everyday .I like the tote just dont like the dirty water but they do prevent a big mud hole .
Hey question: With the animals not being able to make a mess with the old barrel ... how much water does one pig take in a day?
I’m not totally sure. It depends on the size of the pig. They will consume more the bigger they get naturally. 5-6 gallons per day maybe?
First time seeing this but what I would do is not put a hole for pigs on that white tote. I would put nibbles on and still have that water pump thing inside.... interesting
Thanks. The reason we don't have nipple is because pigs will stand there and hold the nipple open and run water out to create a huge mud hole next to their water. Part of the design is to eliminate waste and destruction around the watering point.
Have you ever thought about trying some mangaliseta hogs?
Have not.
Great idea! This is off subject but how many joules does your fence put out?
What happens with smaller pigs, do you use a different setup?
It doesn't seem like the amount of water held in the bottom is a whole lot, do you guys have freezes where you are, do you keep the water on to the tote 24/7?
Thinking about a design for the smaller pigs. May use the same style IBC with a shorter front on it. It is self filling so the water level stays the same. Doesn’t need to hold a lot of volume that way. There is a frost free version that we are going to be building soon. That will be our winter version. We do get some freezes but not long stretches of below freezing weather.
If you dont want pigs to break them, maybe have it come through the top by the ibc wall furthest from the pig hole in the front. Also, whats the youngest pig that can use this waterer? How many pigs can realistically use this?
Does the hole size work for cattle too?
Are you still using this and has it stood up over time?
Just curious what happens when the pig jumps in there and breaks all the piping and it floods the whole place….
What do you do in the winter about freezing or does it not get that cold there?
In the Deep South, we have a secret strategy to deal with ice and snow. We wait and it melts.
Looks like a good deal. I have mine on the nipples which are a pressure system. They so far haven’t done the shift system to hold it open yet. Guess I’ve got dumb hogs haha.
Have you thought of putting a flap over the opening? I was wondering if that would keep it a little cleaner and possibly less would evaporate. Though I’m in blowing sand territory down here in AZ.
That’s luck! Mine love to hold them open and create a big mud hole. I think it’s the muddy faces that causes them to get dirty. Evaporation isn’t an issue at 1000% humidity here in the south. 🤣🤣
If I am getting feeder pigs at 60 or so pounds will this waterer work just as well for them or does this work better on larger pigs?
Will the pigs go into the water?
Great video. Where do you find the convertor from the garden hose to the pvc?
I bought it at lowes then when we built the second one I couldn't find it so we had to go with another style. Its a 3/4PVC to garden hose connector. Sometimes the folks in the plumbing section will tell you that's not an option but it is. May try a plumbing supply store.
@@SheratonParkFarms Thanks
What do you do about mosquito larvae on the summer?
These tracks are a literal drop in the bucket compared to mosquito habitat around here. Not an issue so far.
Ever had an animal climb in the tank?
Have the pigs tried to get into the waterer?
no. Haven't had any issue with that.
Sheraton Park Farms
Yet!!!!
Does the pig go inside the tote?
I'm concerned. If that float stops working my well will run dry and my pump will burn up.
What is min water pressure needed for those float values to operate properly?
Pigs use mud to keep fly and sun off them at dark they use the grass to wipe off the mud
So how does this work in winter when water freezes?
In the Deep South, we have a secret strategy to deal with ice and snow. We wait and it melts.
Is this still working out well for you? Would you do anything different now? Any obstacles or concerns you are still working on? Thanks.
Yes. I have 3 of them now. Work great. We’ve made the inlet pipe on top longer so that it extends past the edge of the tote on top. That’s the only modification.
@@SheratonParkFarms thanks for sharing the update!
What is your water source? A well?
How much would you charge for consulting/mentorship
Telephone or in person? What do you have in mind?
Is your IBC tote food grade? Do you know the previous contents? I'm looking for local totes in my area & it seems many of them say they previously contained chemicals. Wondering if I can clean them sufficiently for pig water.
So how do you deal with it in the winter time it looks like a regular garden hose my experience is garden hose freeze in the winter time
We turn the water off, unhook the hoses and drain them if its going to get below freezing.
I thought maybe you had a particular kind of heating element that you put on the spigot and hose during the winter freezing weather.
We don’t. It doesn’t get that cold or stay cold for very long. Been lucky so far.
Is there anything to stop the pigs from swimming in it?
I’m sure they probably could. The trick I think is making the hole high enough so they can’t easily step in and small enough so they can only get their head in.
What type of electric fence do you use?
What about when it's below freezing temperatures or do u know
We turn the water off and drain the hoses. Here in Central NC we don't get days on end below freezing so its not a big issue for us.
hi, won't the pigs try to climb in there?
Not had any issue with that. As they get bigger, it tough for them to get much past their shoulders through the opening.
How do you keep it from freezing?
We’ll have to see if it gets good enough to freeze this year. Jordan Green had a frost resistant version we will probably make to use of it gets really cold for an extended period of time. Thanks for watching!
This was my question too. I’d like to to see a video about the frost free version
You put your sow's on free feed?
No. They are on ration. 5lbs/day gestating, 15lbs/day lactating. Helen will not be need again so we are going to fatten her up for processing.
You need to paint the tote or it will crumble and leech. Its plastic
Good point. Thanks
Pigs standing around trying to figure out how they are going to get the water out to make a mud pool for themselves.
BY THE WAY PIGS NEEDS MUD....tO BE HEALTHY----SAME LIKE CHICKENS NEED TO DUST mainly summer time___
Actually they dont.