I agree, Borealis, genuine Tropic, Isofrane and Uncle Seiko are my go to brands. Borealis is hands down the best value for quality strap I know of. Another great review.
Great video, thanks for making the comparison of the Borealis tropic strap with other straps. A good tropic strap is such an amazing thing to have and to put on a diver.
I'm wearing a Borealis strap right now, and they are superb. Comfortable and affordable. I'm going to order some more for a couple of other watches in my collection.
I went onto Borealis site this morning and nearly all the dive straps are sold out. That shocked me. I'm glad for the ones I have, but right now ... nadda!
I bought 2 borealis straps about 4 years ago, great quality, but a bit stiff. These new ones look a lot softer. I think I'll order a blue one for my seamaster 300.
I bought the black Nato based on this video. I like the quality, price and feel of the nato. Better than the alphashark seatbelt strap that I've always found uncomfortable. I'm going to try the tropic next I think.
Another great vid Peter. Strap brand recommendation videos don't appear on YT enough. I've got the same Borealis tropical on my Seiko 55 Fathoms (SNZH-57J) and it's bloody brilliant. On the other hand, I have a great looking vintage 'rally' style tropical from Cheapest Nato Straps on my Invicta Pro-Diver. But it's not the same. It looks the goods - 20mm tapering to 10mm at the tip with a vintage pattern embossed into the rubber, but it doesn't wear any where near as well as the Borealis does. And you feel it on your wrist after a day's wear - especially on a knock around watch like the Invicta. Another great one mate. Loving the channel. A.
Peter Kotsa - Yeah. I'm happy with my SNZH. Very happy, more than I thought I'd be. Normally when a Seiko lacks hacking & hand-winding it shits me a bit...it is 2020!, but it is what it is. A cheap and very pretty desk diver that actually pulls off a bit of vintage charm! Cheers mate, and thanks again for you kind words.
@@anthonysmith2982 I am the same, It really bugs me that we still have non hacking /handwinding movements, but a watch like the SNZH or a cult SKX pulls it off for some reason, (we overlook its shortfalls) Great stuff mate, cheers
Best Tropic on the market is unquestionably the Méraud Tropic. Rubber compound like butter, beautiful high polished buckle, the perforations line up with the tropic pattern and a keeper that has matching texture. Every detail painstakingly considered right down to a historically accurate Acier Inox engraved on the underside of the buckle. I swapped out my Oris Tropic for one as it’s so so much nicer. Try one. You won’t be disappointed.
Thanks for sharing. Just ordered a tropic strap for my Seiko SPB143. Borealis describe that the spring bar holes are max 1.8mm. Remains to be seen whether I can get the right spring bars in that have 1.1mm tips. Keen to get the right fit without potentially damaging the lug holes on my Seiko by using smaller spring bar tips...
My pleasure Alex..I've squeezed 2.5mm fat spring bars in these.. I don't recommend it, but its does work with a little bit of soap as lubricant....that way they also come out easier when needed.. Cheers
They are really good. I got an orange Isofrane-like, which is awesome, but unfortunately too long and bulky for my SKX013. I'm thinking of trying an orange tropic, hopefully it would be less bulky, despite looking just as long.
If anyone wants these soft straps you can get them on Alibaba.com but have to get 10 - 30 straps at a time but at £3-£5 they worth it. Great video again. 👍🏻🏴
I might get the tropic for my save the ocean turtle. Are uncle Seiko straps good, most the reviews online seem to be a bit biased. However there are some people that think uncle Seiko straps are extremely poor quality to what u pay for, not one bit supple and feel cheap. I might try the Borealis tropic strap on the STO turtle.
I tried on the new Sinn U50 the other day on its Sinn rubber strap and it is amazing (but expensive). Peter, how would you compare Borealis straps with Seiko Prospex rubber straps? Cheers.
The Seiko Prospex strap on the SNE543 watch was a really nice feel.,..in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3rbkkSpFncI/v-deo.html In saying that, I think the Borealis is a step above that. It displays the same beautiful feel but has that subtle confidence that a stronger strap give you. It really is a unique feel, especially the orange ones for some reason...hope that helps cheers
Thanks Peter. I enjoyed your reviews and comparative approach. I've been holding off buying Borealis straps (Both their diver/Iso-style and the Boavista/tropics) but (1) was waiting on more color options and (2) was wondering about their specs mainly the length as I have a 6.7"sh wrist diameter. Hope you could share and touch on this in you next review and video. It would be great if you Borealis sent you more color options on both strap types. Thanks in advance.Cheers!
Ive checked their specs, the ISO strap version is sized at 130/75mm each length and the Tropic is sized at 131/78mm. Just to give you a heads up, I have a 7" wrist and I am halfway up the scale for available holes and there is plenty of strap left over for a larger wrist. Hope that helps cheers :)
@@PeterKotsa Thank you. Greatly appreciate your tip. Ive had Isofrane straps and wear them up to the 3rd to the last hole. They seem to be alright. Im really very interested in their tropics. Do you think they'd be alright as well being 4mm longer? Thanks once again.
@@ronin7106 I'm using the tropic on two of my watches sand I find them more comfortable because of its taper from 20mm to 12mm. The ISO is 20mm all the way. As far as the tropic being longer, the holes travel pretty much the entire length of the strap. So far no issue with me, cheers
That compression that you saw on the Oris strap, it happens with basically all rubber straps, if the springbar is fatter than the hole in the strap normally allows. With a fatter springbar, the strap gets stretched roundwise, and thus (like any rubber) contracts lengthwise - thereby becoming 19mm / 18mm. It could be that the Oris tropic strap has too small of a prefabricated hole...
I thought that might be the case. I used the standard spring bars that Oris supply on my Borealis strap and no issues. You are probably right, the strap Oris supplies might have holes a little small for the intended use. Thanks for sharing cheers
Absolutely, my father always told me when I was a young lad, something too cheap, will cost you more money again and again. Thanks for the feedback, cheers
@@PeterKotsa I am very much interested and know that i cannot get it. For that, knowing you still have it i am relieved. Weigh of me mind :) don't want you to sell it.
These tropic straps are great, I love me... As for the intro song, I downloaded it from UA-cam back then, I cannot remember what the song title was as it was on my previous computer, I no longer have it...
@@PeterKotsa Ok, np, ill try to shazam it :) Ty again for the great review. You made me discover the Borealis brand. Ill buy back from them. Here's a valide code : 10-OFF-PLEASE. Peace :)
Great video ! I'm trying to find diver style rubber straps which can take Seiko Fatboy spring bars but in total length not exceeding 195mm. Still couldn't find any. These straps looks great but not sure how long they are? Cheers
Hi James, nothing a scissors can't fix..lol Just kidding, I hear you, I too like things to fit, if there is too much overhang it is bothersome to me too. This Tropic just wraps around my 7" wrist, I would have loved it about 1cm shorter. cheers
@@PeterKotsa Funny you mentioned the scissor, because it is legit solution haha. I ordered and cut up a couple of vulcanized rubberstraps from Belhamel for my SKX013 (they were on sale). It works, but I feel the look of a Borealis strap would be ruined. #small_straps_matters
Has anyone compared these to the Uncle Seiko? I somehow ended up with six of his straps, but some, like the 22mm Tropic strap, I found were really disappointing.
Hi Zach, I have only had a version 1 of the waffles strap from Uncle Seiko, in saying that, I was under the impression that they were pretty good, especially the version 2....what do you find disappointing with he tropic 22mm? cheers Peter
Peter Kotsa I own version two of the waffle strap in both 22mm and 20mm, I do like these. I’m actually wearing a watch with the 22mm one as I write this. I own the Tropic strap in both 22mm and 20mm. The 20mm version is great, the 22mm (which I bought used) has issues with the molding process, and the ventilation holes are halfway filled with excess rubber. In addition, the 22mm strap has the same pattern/spacing of the holes as the 20mm strap, but the size of the holes is actually smaller. The 22mm in person does not look as nice. I love the 20mm tropic, just not the 22mm. Also on the six straps that I own, the pin on the buckle is a little short on two of them. Larry does have really great customer service though, and was always quick to respond to my email.
I have several Borealis rubber straps. They are all of excellent quality, but they all have a problem in my opinion. The Isofrane types have square retainers instead of rounded retainers that I think are more uncomfortable. And the tropic type is excessively long. It is even longer than a Seiko Z20. If they made a shorter version of the tropic I would not hesitate to buy it again.
Great stuff, thank for the feedback on these. I have only used borealis as I found them more than adequate. Now that you have pointed out the Tropics extra length, I see it. I don't mind it as I realise it is designed for going over a wet suit etc, but it is good to have other's opinions to point out things they dont like. I will have to grab myself an Isofrane to compare the comfort for myself as well. Thanks again for the feedback, cheers :)
Its not latex, it is a vulcanised rubber. Almost as soft as the Seiko rubber but nicer to the feel..and more secure feeling as well. Ideally it has to be felt to be appreciated, cheers
@@PeterKotsa Thank you for your super fast reply. I am think of purchasing a Mido Ocean Star GMT(blue) , the leather type band they have on that watch I would want to change immediately . I only wear watches I don't have to take off for the ocean/shower/pool the
The strap is very flexible so I don't see any reason why you can squeeze it in a 19mm lug width. I do with my watches and they are snug and no issues cheers
In your strap reviews could you possibly mention whether the large seiko spring bars can be fitted, I've been caught out by this issue several times. I like to keep the proper ones and not downgrade to thinner ones.
The Seiko fat spring bars do not fit on these straps. I can lubricate the spring bar and possibly squeeze it into the ISO strap, but not the Tropic. Even then I wouldn't recommend it as it will stress the rubber.
I really like the rubber straps from Borealis. For Nato straps, check out PhenomeNato from Hungary. They cost a bit more, yet they are the best in seat belt quality.
The look of Joseph Bonnie is nicer in my opinion, they look more refined. As for the feel, both being vulcanised rubber there shouldn't be a difference.
Hi Jared, when I first saw the specs on their website, I was a little concerned about the exact same thing...the huge taper down to 12mm. In wearing the strap, I now realise that the firmness , yet subtle material used benefits such a taper. It is really a pleasure on the wrist. Once again every one is different, this might not suit your wrist or preferences. For me it sits really well...so no complaints here:) Hope that helps, cheers mate
Love divers, buy them new and used, but often shy away from pieces that are not on a metal bracelet, since I have been disappointed with latex straps (even Seiko's). Oddly so, Invicta had a good one on a cheap diver. Liked the handsome Borealis on the Oris. Thanks for the heads up on this brand. Best, JP
I have some fat Spring Bars here and they do not fit the Tropic. I can fit a 1.8mm possibly a 2mm spring bar, but not the 2.5mm. I have heard of people lubricating the spring bar with some soap and then 'making it fit' however i would not recommend that as it would compromise the rubbers integrity by stretching it and possibly causing stress fractures in it over time. Hope that helps, cheers:)
Hi Doug, I have been asked that same question a few times, I am not sure if they are planning on making a 22mm. Drop them an email, they respond quickly, cheers
Do any have a smell? I bought an Obris Morgan strap that had the same ladder/isofrane look to it. Decent strap but had an unpleasant smell. I just bought the 20mm black Nato, I can' believe I own this many natos and not a single black 20mm.
Please can you compare this borealis tropic strap with geckota tropical strap meraud tropical strap and tropic strap that will give us good idea that which one is the best thanks
Hi Chris, I have only had a v1 of a waffles strap from uncle seiko and that was pretty average. i have not used their latest offerings, so can't compare atm
Peter Kotsa thanks for all your hard work on reviewing and educating the consumers out there. You’re very talented, I am curious what your daily vocation consists of... are you in the production arena?
@@ChrisBeckman Thanks for the feedback and and thanks for asking. My main gig is professional photography with people, products and some sorts. In saying that, I have been in the same boat as everybody else with this covid19 by being in lockdown. Thats why I have had more time to spend on making some videos lately :)...thanks again for asking Chris. PS what do you do for a crust? cheers mate
It just annoys me that you get a great looking nato like that but it's only 28cm long. I have a wrist size of 7.5in and find that way too short. I like to be able to tuck the end back into the keeper. Mora do a luxury Nato at 33cm which is a much better length.
I think these fit a 1.8mm springbar, any larger and your pushing it. Although I have heard of people lubricating a thicker 2 or 2.5mm springbar with soap and forcing it in. I do not think that would be a good idea as the stress on the rubber would probably not hold up over time, especially at a critical point in the strap. thanks for your feedback, cheers
I’ve never used an isofrane, but from the reviews I’ve seen, it seems either these straps are exactly the same thing or so close that it’s basically impossible to distinguish between the two in real life.
To be honest, I cannot see how any manufacturer could make a nicer strap as these Borealis are incredibly comfortable as well as beautifully finished..especially for the price 👍
Peter Kotsa on my first rubber end I didn’t put any soap and tried to jam it in there. It damaged the end slightly by squishing it inwards. No problems on the others. The rubber is pretty thick
Great video mate! Have you tried mancaveleather.com i know this is about rubber straps but their straps are hand made and are the best you can get bar none! Well maybe a few others but not many equal them. I just ordered a custom deep green rally strap for my chrono.
Peter, I run a highly successful, premium products store on eBay. I must take exception to your repeated use of the term poor quality straps from eBay. eBay did not sell those straps. An eBay seller sold those on eBay. Please state the brand name (if there is one) of the straps you purchased. Every day I fight the bias that eBay sells junk. eBay sells EVERYTHING. Your remarks perpetuate the belief that eBay sells junk. The seller sold you junk.
I hope I did not imply that eBay was the culprit, that wasn't my intention. I actually buy a lot of things from eBay. In fact the watch pictured (Oris Diver 65) was purchased on eBay and I made mention of it in my previous video. I apologise if I gave the wrong impression, I will be more careful in future vids. I agree the seller was the culprit, these are no name brands (generic) Nonetheless, thank you for reaching out, cheers
I have borealis on my citizens pro master diver and a isofrane on my sinn U1. Honestly not enough difference to justify the price jump for the isofrane. Unless your a strap snob.
It bugs me that the tropic strap keepers are flat and not the basket weave pattern like the rest of the strap. But that’s just me and I’m anal. Waiting to see if tropic strap releases a v2.
@@PeterKotsa You should make a comparison. Never heard of Borealis before but Uncle Seiko is pretty popular. People would be interested in a video like that. Thanks for taking the time doing this video!
Francisco Von Mises I was going to suggest that. I have a plethora of uncle Seiko straps and bands - love every single of them. The Borealis seems to taper a bit more and they are longer than the US Tropic strap. I do like the double keeper. I’ve asked uncle Seiko in the past to stock extra Tropic keepers as I’d love to run doubles on the ones I own.
The Oris 65 looks particularly good with this tropic strap. A stunner 😍
I know and it is comfortable too..:)
I agree, Borealis, genuine Tropic, Isofrane and Uncle Seiko are my go to brands. Borealis is hands down the best value for quality strap I know of. Another great review.
Great video, thanks for making the comparison of the Borealis tropic strap with other straps. A good tropic strap is such an amazing thing to have and to put on a diver.
Totally agree!
I'm wearing a Borealis strap right now, and they are superb. Comfortable and affordable. I'm going to order some more for a couple of other watches in my collection.
I went onto Borealis site this morning and nearly all the dive straps are sold out. That shocked me. I'm glad for the ones I have, but right now ... nadda!
Received my borealis strap yesterday and it really is as good as you say :)
Thats excellent, I have had nothing but great experience with these straps. Enjoy !!!
Sold out 22mm :-(
@@Jacob-rf3bb keep checking back I think they restock often
I agree. Their straps are amazing. I own a few and thinking about the camo. Would love to see an iced out camo
great stuff, enjoy them :)
Really enjoyed your video. They are always a pleasure to watch :)
Thank you very much! Appreciate the feedback, cheers
I bought 2 borealis straps about 4 years ago, great quality, but a bit stiff.
These new ones look a lot softer.
I think I'll order a blue one for my seamaster 300.
Thanks again! I need to buy a pair of those. Great review Peter!
My pleasure, cheers
I bought the black Nato based on this video. I like the quality, price and feel of the nato. Better than the alphashark seatbelt strap that I've always found uncomfortable. I'm going to try the tropic next I think.
You are going to love the tropic, that's what sod me..cheers
Yet again another great video, Peter.
Glad you enjoyed it Robert, cheers mate
Excellent review Peter. Love the ones with the perforations, and that NATO is awesome.
cheers mate :)
All sold out. DOH! Good video. Thanks for the advise Peter
Agreed. Borealis make a great watch strap. I'm using one myself👍
Right on, cannot go wrong, so comfortable. :)
Another great vid Peter.
Strap brand recommendation videos don't appear on YT enough.
I've got the same Borealis tropical on my Seiko 55 Fathoms (SNZH-57J) and it's bloody brilliant.
On the other hand, I have a great looking vintage 'rally' style tropical from Cheapest Nato Straps on my Invicta Pro-Diver. But it's not the same. It looks the goods - 20mm tapering to 10mm at the tip with a vintage pattern embossed into the rubber, but it doesn't wear any where near as well as the Borealis does. And you feel it on your wrist after a day's wear - especially on a knock around watch like the Invicta.
Another great one mate. Loving the channel.
A.
Thank you Anthony, always enjoy your feedback mate. PS I had the SNZH-53 a few years ago, lovely looking piece indeed. Cheers
Peter Kotsa - Yeah. I'm happy with my SNZH. Very happy, more than I thought I'd be. Normally when a Seiko lacks hacking & hand-winding it shits me a bit...it is 2020!, but it is what it is. A cheap and very pretty desk diver that actually pulls off a bit of vintage charm!
Cheers mate, and thanks again for you kind words.
@@anthonysmith2982 Hey Anthony! Good to meet ya here! You sent me the link and what shall I say, I subscribed 🤝
Alexander Böhm - Ha! Hi again Alexander! This is a great channel. Looks like we'll be bumping into each other more!
@@anthonysmith2982 I am the same, It really bugs me that we still have non hacking /handwinding movements, but a watch like the SNZH or a cult SKX pulls it off for some reason, (we overlook its shortfalls) Great stuff mate, cheers
Best Tropic on the market is unquestionably the Méraud Tropic. Rubber compound like butter, beautiful high polished buckle, the perforations line up with the tropic pattern and a keeper that has matching texture. Every detail painstakingly considered right down to a historically accurate Acier Inox engraved on the underside of the buckle. I swapped out my Oris Tropic for one as it’s so so much nicer. Try one. You won’t be disappointed.
Thanks for the info Mark, I am going to have to give it a try. Cheers Peter
I ordered a Seiko SKX013 and have a Borealis orange isofrane-like strap coming, I'm excited like a kid!
Thanks for sharing. Just ordered a tropic strap for my Seiko SPB143. Borealis describe that the spring bar holes are max 1.8mm. Remains to be seen whether I can get the right spring bars in that have 1.1mm tips. Keen to get the right fit without potentially damaging the lug holes on my Seiko by using smaller spring bar tips...
My pleasure Alex..I've squeezed 2.5mm fat spring bars in these..
I don't recommend it, but its does work with a little bit of soap as lubricant....that way they also come out easier when needed..
Cheers
It’s USD39.50 free shipping. I just ordered the 20mm for my Seiko Alpina. Thks.
Enjoy
Didnt know Borealis had tropic strap as well. Time to order!
I'm sure you'll be very pleased, they are subtle and enjoyable to wear. cheers
They are really good. I got an orange Isofrane-like, which is awesome, but unfortunately too long and bulky for my SKX013. I'm thinking of trying an orange tropic, hopefully it would be less bulky, despite looking just as long.
I've been looking for a strap like the one on the Oris for my Legend Diver. Perfect timing.
There you go, right place at the right time..:)
For carbon fiber pattern Hadley Roma straps are lot nicer imo, with either black or white stich, very suitable for luxury sport watch.
If anyone wants these soft straps you can get them on Alibaba.com but have to get 10 - 30 straps at a time but at £3-£5 they worth it. Great video again. 👍🏻🏴
Hi Andrew, thanks for the feedback cheers
I might get the tropic for my save the ocean turtle. Are uncle Seiko straps good, most the reviews online seem to be a bit biased. However there are some people that think uncle Seiko straps are extremely poor quality to what u pay for, not one bit supple and feel cheap. I might try the Borealis tropic strap on the STO turtle.
I don't know if Borealis make a 22mm in tropic yet..as for quality though, they are top shelf
I tried on the new Sinn U50 the other day on its Sinn rubber strap and it is amazing (but expensive). Peter, how would you compare Borealis straps with Seiko Prospex rubber straps? Cheers.
The Seiko Prospex strap on the SNE543 watch was a really nice feel.,..in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3rbkkSpFncI/v-deo.html
In saying that, I think the Borealis is a step above that. It displays the same beautiful feel but has that subtle confidence that a stronger strap give you. It really is a unique feel, especially the orange ones for some reason...hope that helps cheers
Awesome review of the Borealis straps. Question do they take the Seiko Fatty 2.5 mm spring bar ?
In my experience, unfortunately no they don't fit..you can force them though, but I do not recommend it..
Thanks Peter. I enjoyed your reviews and comparative approach. I've been holding off buying Borealis straps (Both their diver/Iso-style and the Boavista/tropics) but (1) was waiting on more color options and (2) was wondering about their specs mainly the length as I have a 6.7"sh wrist diameter. Hope you could share and touch on this in you next review and video. It would be great if you Borealis sent you more color options on both strap types. Thanks in advance.Cheers!
Ive checked their specs, the ISO strap version is sized at 130/75mm each length and the Tropic is sized at 131/78mm. Just to give you a heads up, I have a 7" wrist and I am halfway up the scale for available holes and there is plenty of strap left over for a larger wrist. Hope that helps
cheers :)
@@PeterKotsa Thank you. Greatly appreciate your tip. Ive had Isofrane straps and wear them up to the 3rd to the last hole. They seem to be alright. Im really very interested in their tropics. Do you think they'd be alright as well being 4mm longer? Thanks once again.
@@ronin7106 I'm using the tropic on two of my watches sand I find them more comfortable because of its taper from 20mm to 12mm. The ISO is 20mm all the way. As far as the tropic being longer, the holes travel pretty much the entire length of the strap. So far no issue with me, cheers
That compression that you saw on the Oris strap, it happens with basically all rubber straps, if the springbar is fatter than the hole in the strap normally allows. With a fatter springbar, the strap gets stretched roundwise, and thus (like any rubber) contracts lengthwise - thereby becoming 19mm / 18mm. It could be that the Oris tropic strap has too small of a prefabricated hole...
I thought that might be the case. I used the standard spring bars that Oris supply on my Borealis strap and no issues. You are probably right, the strap Oris supplies might have holes a little small for the intended use.
Thanks for sharing
cheers
Thanks for sharing...going to order mi e today
well doen Craig, I am sure you will be pleased, cheers
Ciao, thanks for the video. I would like to put on the Khaki Field 38 mm…What do you think? Can will be nice? Marco
Hi Marco, it's really up to you what strap you use on your watches. Being black straps, they should look good on any watch. 👍
High praise, proof you get what you pay for👍. Great Video.
Absolutely, my father always told me when I was a young lad, something too cheap, will cost you more money again and again. Thanks for the feedback, cheers
Good to see an Aussie Watch guy on YT!
Thank you and big G'day from a fellow Aussie, right back at ya :)
Every time I see the Seiko “bottle cap” watch, I want to buy one.
LOL, give it a try their not that expensive, its a fun watch
Peter Kotsa I will likely do so.
@@eyeheartsushi2212 good stuff :)
Thanks for the advice. Helps heaps!
Happy to help! You should try these out, they are superb..I swear by them for the money, definitely worth every penny :)
I went to the linked website and yes, very good prices -- but sold out in black for all sizes and styles.
I know, many people who saw my video, jumped on these. I am sure they will restock soon enough tough, cheers
What have you decided with the "Willard"?
Hope it is still in your posession...
Are you interested in it?..keep your grubby little mitts of the Willard..LOL.
@@PeterKotsa I am very much interested and know that i cannot get it. For that, knowing you still have it i am relieved.
Weigh of me mind :) don't want you to sell it.
Great content! Bougth a green Tropic for my Alpinist. Quick question : what's the song in your intro?! I like it :)
These tropic straps are great, I love me...
As for the intro song, I downloaded it from UA-cam back then, I cannot remember what the song title was as it was on my previous computer, I no longer have it...
@@PeterKotsa Ok, np, ill try to shazam it :) Ty again for the great review. You made me discover the Borealis brand. Ill buy back from them. Here's a valide code : 10-OFF-PLEASE. Peace :)
Great video !
I'm trying to find diver style rubber straps which can take Seiko Fatboy spring bars but in total length not exceeding 195mm. Still couldn't find any. These straps looks great but not sure how long they are?
Cheers
The tropic don't fit the fat spring bars. the ISO type can but it is snug.
Nice - what Seiko is that with the black bezel?
ua-cam.com/video/VBhUSdxpNmw/v-deo.html
Loving your videos! I'm going to order one to try out on my Seiko SARB033. Do they have any promo codes you are aware of?
Not at the moment, I have paid retail always, enjoy it, cheers
Hi Peter, great review. Do you if the Borealis strap can take on Seiko's fat spring bar?
I have 'forced' the Seiko fat spring bars into these, but I do not recommend it..it probably puts a little strain on the rubber..
@@PeterKotsa thanks for replying.
@@369MatteGrey my pleasure bro
Loved it!
Thanks Gary, you should check them out, great value, cheers :)
So pumped to purchase one, but my skinny wrists require a shorter version. I know their straps will fit, but I can't stand having a long tail.
Hi James, nothing a scissors can't fix..lol
Just kidding, I hear you, I too like things to fit, if there is too much overhang it is bothersome to me too. This Tropic just wraps around my 7" wrist, I would have loved it about 1cm shorter. cheers
@@PeterKotsa Funny you mentioned the scissor, because it is legit solution haha. I ordered and cut up a couple of vulcanized rubberstraps from Belhamel for my SKX013 (they were on sale). It works, but I feel the look of a Borealis strap would be ruined.
#small_straps_matters
Nice
May I ask you if a borealis "isofrane style" would look nice on a small 15cm/5.9 inches wrist?
Thanks
May look a tad bulky
It’s bulky for me on certain watches
Cheers
Has anyone compared these to the Uncle Seiko? I somehow ended up with six of his straps, but some, like the 22mm Tropic strap, I found were really disappointing.
Hi Zach, I have only had a version 1 of the waffles strap from Uncle Seiko, in saying that, I was under the impression that they were pretty good, especially the version 2....what do you find disappointing with he tropic 22mm?
cheers Peter
Peter Kotsa I own version two of the waffle strap in both 22mm and 20mm, I do like these. I’m actually wearing a watch with the 22mm one as I write this.
I own the Tropic strap in both 22mm and 20mm. The 20mm version is great, the 22mm (which I bought used) has issues with the molding process, and the ventilation holes are halfway filled with excess rubber. In addition, the 22mm strap has the same pattern/spacing of the holes as the 20mm strap, but the size of the holes is actually smaller. The 22mm in person does not look as nice. I love the 20mm tropic, just not the 22mm.
Also on the six straps that I own, the pin on the buckle is a little short on two of them.
Larry does have really great customer service though, and was always quick to respond to my email.
I have several Borealis rubber straps. They are all of excellent quality, but they all have a problem in my opinion. The Isofrane types have square retainers instead of rounded retainers that I think are more uncomfortable. And the tropic type is excessively long. It is even longer than a Seiko Z20. If they made a shorter version of the tropic I would not hesitate to buy it again.
Great stuff, thank for the feedback on these. I have only used borealis as I found them more than adequate. Now that you have pointed out the Tropics extra length, I see it. I don't mind it as I realise it is designed for going over a wet suit etc, but it is good to have other's opinions to point out things they dont like.
I will have to grab myself an Isofrane to compare the comfort for myself as well. Thanks again for the feedback, cheers :)
Is the rubber latex ? or is it as smooth Seiko Samurai Thanks for your opinion and great video
This it would look great on Mido Ocean Star GMT
Its not latex, it is a vulcanised rubber. Almost as soft as the Seiko rubber but nicer to the feel..and more secure feeling as well. Ideally it has to be felt to be appreciated, cheers
@@PeterKotsa
Thank you for your super fast reply. I am think of purchasing a Mido Ocean Star GMT(blue) , the leather type band they have on that watch I would want to change immediately . I only wear watches I don't have to take off for the ocean/shower/pool
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Will the 20mm strap fit a 19mm without any issues?
The strap is very flexible so I don't see any reason why you can squeeze it in a 19mm lug width. I do with my watches and they are snug and no issues
cheers
@@PeterKotsa great news,thanksPeter
Their website is out of stock on nearly every single strap. That's odd. Are they done selling these?
Not sure..maybe lockdown has affected these
In your strap reviews could you possibly mention whether the large seiko spring bars can be fitted, I've been caught out by this issue several times. I like to keep the proper ones and not downgrade to thinner ones.
The Seiko fat spring bars do not fit on these straps. I can lubricate the spring bar and possibly squeeze it into the ISO strap, but not the Tropic. Even then I wouldn't recommend it as it will stress the rubber.
@@PeterKotsa Thanks for the reply, I might get one and give it a try.
@@gordonanderson6216 Im sure you'll be pleased, cheers
@@PeterKotsa 22mm orange, order placed, £33.60. Inc taxes. I'll let you know how I get on!
I really like the rubber straps from Borealis. For Nato straps, check out PhenomeNato from Hungary. They cost a bit more, yet they are the best in seat belt quality.
Thanks David, will check them out..cheers
How do these tropic straps compare to the Joseph Bonnie tropic straps?
The look of Joseph Bonnie is nicer in my opinion, they look more refined. As for the feel, both being vulcanised rubber there shouldn't be a difference.
Could you list off the watches shown in this vid? Thanks
Hi Seth, I have just updated the description and listed the watches in order, cheers Peter
It's a pity that after only a year all the straps have increased by over 50% in price, damn shame.
It is! I just checked the site after this video popped up in my feed. Still, looks quality!
Did you say “tapers down to 12?” I would like a less harshly angled buckle with some style. Those hard right angles are not good.
Hi Jared, when I first saw the specs on their website, I was a little concerned about the exact same thing...the huge taper down to 12mm.
In wearing the strap, I now realise that the firmness , yet subtle material used benefits such a taper. It is really a pleasure on the wrist.
Once again every one is different, this might not suit your wrist or preferences. For me it sits really well...so no complaints here:)
Hope that helps, cheers mate
Love divers, buy them new and used, but often shy away from pieces that are not on a metal bracelet, since I have been disappointed with latex straps (even Seiko's). Oddly so, Invicta had a good one on a cheap diver. Liked the handsome Borealis on the Oris. Thanks for the heads up on this brand. Best, JP
No worries, I have been enjoying Borealis on my cheap and expensive divers and no issues, just pure joy and comfort :)
Peter, do you know if the Seiko fat boy spring bars fit the Tropic? I’m thinking of getting one for my Marinemaster.
I have some fat Spring Bars here and they do not fit the Tropic. I can fit a 1.8mm possibly a 2mm spring bar, but not the 2.5mm. I have heard of people lubricating the spring bar with some soap and then 'making it fit' however i would not recommend that as it would compromise the rubbers integrity by stretching it and possibly causing stress fractures in it over time. Hope that helps, cheers:)
I didn’t see a 22mm in the tropic strap on their website, any idea if they plan to make a 22 mm strap?
Hi Doug, I have been asked that same question a few times, I am not sure if they are planning on making a 22mm. Drop them an email, they respond quickly, cheers
Do any have a smell? I bought an Obris Morgan strap that had the same ladder/isofrane look to it. Decent strap but had an unpleasant smell.
I just bought the 20mm black Nato, I can' believe I own this many natos and not a single black 20mm.
Zero smell, neutral, cheers
They are wonderful, unfortunately they have VERY limited colors and sizes.
yes they could definitely improve their nato colour pallet indeed.
I just checked their site and they don’t offer the Tropic in 22mm. Bummer, I wanted one for my LLD.
Bummer indeed, they have 22mm in the ISO but not the Tropic Style, :(
Does the keeper on the Tropic strap on the Oris 65 move whilst wearing the watch?
No, I suppose it depends on how loose or tight you wear it. Mine seems to be fine
cheers
Does anyone make rubber straps in 19mm or 21mm that aren't black?
Please can you compare this borealis tropic strap with geckota tropical strap meraud tropical strap and tropic strap that will give us good idea that which one is the best thanks
Hi Nasir, I need to get the other straps in to do so. I will see how I go in maybe a future vid, cheers
it seems like they don't have (or even make) any 22mm tropic style
Yeah a few people have asked for a 22mm tropic, I’d like one too
How does the Borealalis Tropic compare to the Uncle Seiko? (Besides Price).... opinions?!?
Hi Chris, I have only had a v1 of a waffles strap from uncle seiko and that was pretty average. i have not used their latest offerings, so can't compare atm
Peter Kotsa thanks for all your hard work on reviewing and educating the consumers out there. You’re very talented, I am curious what your daily vocation consists of... are you in the production arena?
@@ChrisBeckman Thanks for the feedback and and thanks for asking. My main gig is professional photography with people, products and some sorts. In saying that, I have been in the same boat as everybody else with this covid19 by being in lockdown. Thats why I have had more time to spend on making some videos lately :)...thanks again for asking Chris.
PS what do you do for a crust?
cheers mate
It just annoys me that you get a great looking nato like that but it's only 28cm long. I have a wrist size of 7.5in and find that way too short. I like to be able to tuck the end back into the keeper. Mora do a luxury Nato at 33cm which is a much better length.
I'll share that with them, maybe this is an issue that can be rectified in future products, thanks for the feedback, cheers
My understanding, however, is that the Isofrane is made in Italy, whereas the Borealis outsources to China.
The straps l like are sold out....☹️
hey are probably the same straps that all of us like as well. Very popular indeed!!
Bummer. Only 20 mm for the Tropic strap and black is sold out
I know :(
Uncle Seiko are very nice, take the fat spring bars. They are a tad stiff however
I have never had an uncle seiko personally, I have heard good stuff about them though.
Have their tropic strap on my save the ocean turtle great white shark and two of their canvas re enforced NATOs (Zulu) on my baby Tuna and SKX
Unfortunately the Borealis straps are, in 2024, either sold out or have gone up to $45.90 USD.
Seems like they only fit regular speongbar though, no Rolex or Seiko bars
I think these fit a 1.8mm springbar, any larger and your pushing it. Although I have heard of people lubricating a thicker 2 or 2.5mm springbar with soap and forcing it in. I do not think that would be a good idea as the stress on the rubber would probably not hold up over time, especially at a critical point in the strap. thanks for your feedback, cheers
@@PeterKotsa thanks for the reply. That's unfortunate as it limits the use with many tool watches (if you don't want to use regular spring bars)
Errrr..... how do they compare to Isofrane?
I’ve never used an isofrane, but from the reviews I’ve seen, it seems either these straps are exactly the same thing or so close that it’s basically impossible to distinguish between the two in real life.
Peter Kotsa I found a comment on a watch forum just now saying Borealis were slightly nicer. Wish they’d come up with their own design though.
To be honest, I cannot see how any manufacturer could make a nicer strap as these Borealis are incredibly comfortable as well as beautifully finished..especially for the price 👍
Sweet 👌..
cheers :)
legend
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Borealis rubber straps are fucking great. Lube up some fat Seiko spring bars and ur heavy duty
Do you find that the forceful insertion of a lubed bar puts any stress on the rubber?
Peter Kotsa on my first rubber end I didn’t put any soap and tried to jam it in there. It damaged the end slightly by squishing it inwards. No problems on the others. The rubber is pretty thick
Great video mate! Have you tried mancaveleather.com i know this is about rubber straps but their straps are hand made and are the best you can get bar none! Well maybe a few others but not many equal them. I just ordered a custom deep green rally strap for my chrono.
Thanks for sharing Nathan I’ll check them out 👍
Peter, I run a highly successful, premium products store on eBay. I must take exception to your repeated use of the term poor quality straps from eBay. eBay did not sell those straps. An eBay seller sold those on eBay. Please state the brand name (if there is one) of the straps you purchased. Every day I fight the bias that eBay sells junk. eBay sells EVERYTHING. Your remarks perpetuate the belief that eBay sells junk. The seller sold you junk.
I hope I did not imply that eBay was the culprit, that wasn't my intention. I actually buy a lot of things from eBay. In fact the watch pictured (Oris Diver 65) was purchased on eBay and I made mention of it in my previous video.
I apologise if I gave the wrong impression, I will be more careful in future vids.
I agree the seller was the culprit, these are no name brands (generic)
Nonetheless, thank you for reaching out, cheers
I have borealis on my citizens pro master diver and a isofrane on my sinn U1. Honestly not enough difference to justify the price jump for the isofrane. Unless your a strap snob.
$30.......and 2 years later they are $46. Not much "worth the money" there. 🙄
It bugs me that the tropic strap keepers are flat and not the basket weave pattern like the rest of the strap. But that’s just me and I’m anal. Waiting to see if tropic strap releases a v2.
That's fair enough, lets see if a v2 comes out soon, thanks for the feedback, cheers
All sold out 😔
I know..😩
....and they gave them to me
Perks, I did buy and pay for four of them at normal retail, the rest were for review :)
Hmm - those tropic straps look like direct copies of Uncle Seiko Tropic straps.
Im not sure, I haven't tried the Uncle Seiko version. I have been using Borealis for about a year now, couldn't be happier :)
@@PeterKotsa You should make a comparison. Never heard of Borealis before but Uncle Seiko is pretty popular. People would be interested in a video like that.
Thanks for taking the time doing this video!
@@seiscero I will try to schedule that in for a future vid. cheers
Francisco Von Mises I was going to suggest that. I have a plethora of uncle Seiko straps and bands - love every single of them. The Borealis seems to taper a bit more and they are longer than the US Tropic strap. I do like the double keeper. I’ve asked uncle Seiko in the past to stock extra Tropic keepers as I’d love to run doubles on the ones I own.
you can find these on alibaba for 4 dollars