I can’t say that I dislike the split dash idea, but with the “nose” between them and the bars below, I just get the feeling Jacques Cousteau is staring at me 😆!
Those who have quick quick to comment telling me this is the 2022 bike and not the 2023, ONLY the GT Plus model in the range gets the new single TFT display for 2023, the standard Tracer and the GT retain the split display.
I've read it and I've apologised, Toad of Visordown seems to now have resorted to misinformation as well as gushing spew on manufacturer sponsored launch reviews. It pains me to think in these days of pre ordering without a test ride or sight of rubber on a showroom floor. How many bikes end up as regrettable purchases finding flaws or quirks glazed over by bought and paid for positive reviewers 😕
Wait, are you telling me that you got the spec sheet for the bike, with the bikes information on it? Like they would Want you to have proper information? You Sir are magical
Reason for me to check reviews one for sale locally, also thought it would be an old model. Nice review on a pretty bike although I think the gauges look like a decepticon with a honker of a nose is looking back at you.
I’ve had a 9GT for 18 months and it’s absolutely superb, great fun and loads of character! That slight delay at take off was on these from new and we owners had to book it in for an update and it’s been perfect since then. Cheers!
@@SergeyVikultsev @mancavemoto Hi both. I said “I’ve” had one 18months (I have had) - that means had one for 18 months to that point and I still have it today as it’s superb.
Mine’s a ‘71 plate now with 6,000 trouble free miles. Wouldn’t disagree with anything you say. It’s a very friendly bike. I think the BMW dash is better but the ride and handling are unrivalled at the moment, there’s simply nothing better on the market. Great value used, just love riding this more than any other bike I’ve owned!
I bought a "Sports Tourer" 6 months ago, and although i loved the ride & looks, I couldnt get past the cartoon face display. I went for the F900XR and have no regrets thus far. If you're ok with that dash setup, great bike!
This Yamaha looks good. The sports/tourer market faded over the years in favor of adventure bike segment. I'm old enough to recall what I think us the grand daddy of Sports/tourers and that's the late 70's BMW R100RS. A "Gentlemens" highish speed grand tourer. Glad to see the resurgence of this category. The modern motor if this Yamaha surely fits the bill. The dash however,,,well,,,could use some help. 😊 But being a fan of this genre I'm happy to see this bike succeed.
I've had mine 4 years and I love it.only issue I had was a slight problem with the fueling for a time but it cleared by itself? Poor unleaded fuel maybe. I urge you to try the niken,it's amazing and I'd love to get one,what a machine,best day out I ever had on a bike that extra front wheel is incredible 🇮🇲
I own the base model and I see it as a great value for the money. The best part is the CP3 by the way. This one in black and gold it is just a very good looking machine. In this particular color combo it is not just very good-looking, but also elegant in my opinion. Got my like. Great video bro. Take care.
Good review Tony. I really like the look of these, seems just about perfect do it all bike, though not a fan of the Dame Edna dash I much prefer the one on the GT+. Currently on a 1250GS but if i didnt need the space for two larger people touring id definatly be dropping into the local Yamaha dealer. And as a 70s kid, we all know the JPS colour scheme is the coolest ever.
Love those little rechargeable battery pumps, had a cheapo one from Amazon, it lasted for over two years for 4 motorcycles and 2 MTBs, guess its pretty good, happily will have buy another one, nice review Tony, cheers V!
Great bike apart from its looks. The least attractive of all the bikes using this engine, including the Niken. Better panniers than the last model. Ditto the Niken. Great idea having the exhaust out of the way under the bike. Buell did that first. I have an old Ulysses, and the exhaust is a jacking point. I've come round to quite liking the Tracer's dash, and I hated it at first, so maybe the bike's looks will grow on me. Good review, Tony.
Great bike, my wife had an MT 09 fantastic engine.spec is great but it's not cheap but to be fair none of them are now! I can't get over its screens, you know what I mean!! Vlogers hardly ever comment on how a bike is 2 up for comfort and performance. there's no replacement for displacement they say !! great vid as usual ..
I bought one of these new 11 months ago. 5,500 miles later I can say it's a great all round bike. I've done two UK tours and ridden in all weathers. At 1.82m tall I (and many other owners) find the stock screen ruubish. Apart from that my only other issue is that I've ridden it through the winter and despite using ACF50 the finish is pretty poor in places. My five year old Triumph Street Triple looked so much better than this bike does after just one winter. I currently have a claim under the warranty with Yamaha. Unacceptable for a bike costing this much money.
When I bought my Honda VFR800X Crossrunner, it was slightly more money than the Tracer 900, but the difference between the two in build quality was tremendous. 4 years and 36.000km later, my Honda is still spotless after riding it everyday in Europe in the rain, snow, whatever. I don't get the appeal for the Tracer, it just screams for cheap plastic feeling. I don't know...
@ MGman100 exactly, you bought one 11 months ago, this is the 2022 model, the 2023 has a new TFT dash. Thank you for also pointing out the rapid degradation, a point I'm sure will be valuable to those considering buying one 👍😀
Love it. Especially in white. Perhaps the bike a lot of GS owners would be happier on, if they don't go off road? Might have missed you saying usb port? And what's the maximum load permitted? Some Yamahas won't allow top box, and panniers, if you carry a passenger. Quite important on a sports tourer, I think. But yes, great bike. ( Tenere 900, anyone?) Safe, happy travels 👍
As someone who moved from a Tracer to a GS after six month ownership I can safely say I won’t be going back & the GS won’t be heading off road intentionally, I considered the RS but the GS just suited better two up. Unless Yamaha come up with a new two up tour option with shaft drive my Yamaha days are over but I guess we’ll all be on belts n batteries before long.
@@butchcassidy9125 yup looked but they were all on recall for a transmission issue Yamaha should have replaced it with a new model but the numbers must not have stacked up. It was desirable around 2005 not so much in 2020 +
Sold my tracer900gt 5 months ago for financial reasons and it just has a few things that turned me off. I work at a Yamaha dealer in tokyo so I work on and ride lots of the new tracers and.... I hope I can afford the Tracer 9GT Plus coming this fall because i cnat even think of 1 thing not to like about that bike. (Japan always gets yamahas last so maybe it comes next year like north America)
@@fabriciovilela77 it is true that for casually fast tarmac driving, 19" or even 21" is ok if you get used to it, and then in dirt it is much more enjoyable.
Great review, probably watched 30 of them so far, I'm considering a left over 2022 (they never released a 2023 in Canada), there are some dealers that have them for $13,999 CAD, which seems like a great price for the kit you get (MSRP here was $18,099). My only real worries are the dash, screen and seat comfort...you seems to get along well with seat and screen. Dash I worry less about, although already seems dated for a 2022/2023. Too bad they didn't release a firmware update to get more functionality on the right, but suspect they don;t want to spend another penny on that dash.
It's a great looking bike, particularly in that colour scheme. The dash is a bit odd but if everything in life was the same, life would be boringly beige.
Good, informative review and I like the caveat that you're not a long-term owner so recognising that there may be other elements you haven't covered. For me, having sat on one, it's the dual-screen that I'm pretty sure I'd find annoying to the point that it's made me consider the Tracer 9GT+ or another bike altogether. After so much criticism of it, I can't understand why Yamaha didn't read the room and adopt the GT+'s version. Unless they had heaps of them sat on a shelf somewhere....
The bikes with the split display have only been in build for a couple of years so it would be pointless modifying the electronics to suit the other display at this point, it’s not something that owners complain about, I like how you can have your own choice of info in large digits on the right, and you notice that in normal use ( rather than on test ride ) you are only glancing at the screen occasionally, in fact the only thing I would change about the display would be to add a fuel range meter, that’s it ( it does have a display for fuel used though, and tells you how many miles you have ridden since the fuel light came on )
Must say I've overlooked this bike so far. Seems like it could be a good challenger for the Z1000SX I currently ride. I should give it a try. Switching between the two back to back might be interesting 🤔
I’ve owned a 2015 & 2017 Z1000sx and now have the Tracer 9GT, for me the Tracer is a lot better bike. It’s well worth trying one, at first the seat feels strange the way it’s canted forwards but you can buy a kit that lifts the front of the seat to make it flatter. The engine is a lot more fun, and the comfort for rider and passenger is much better than the SX.
@@markb4772 Thanks for your feedback, I’ll be riding a demonstrator next week. Mind you my SX (2021) is according to people who have owned several SXs a big step up from the former Z1000sx iterations
Maybe the King can suggest smaller license plates for the UK? 😂 or….put them on the front and eliminate wind screens 😂 Lovely bike. Yamaha should be proud.
Wanted a Tracer Gt for a long time, finally a local dealer had got a 22 model in and got to check out. I was really disappointed in the seating position as well. Felt really cramped compared to my Africa Twin AS. My feet were tucked up under me like a sport bike ride more than a sport tourer. Glad I got the Africa Twin even more now, but I'm tall 6'2" a shorter rider might not feel that way though.
I don't know how the pricing is in the UK but from what I've seen they have been vastly different. I.E. KTM 690 is 9k over in the UK and 13K in the states. The Tracer 9 is 15k here whereas the MT09 is 9 grand. MT10 is also 15k where it used to be cheaper though I can't remember what it was. I feel that is overpriced but I love the bike and would prefer the fairing and windscreen over the MT09 but 15k is a hard pill to swallow for some tech idc care about.
Thanks for the review. Do you know whether the quickshifter will allow a race shift pattern? Strange question for this type of bike, but I don’t want to juggle between different patterns. Thanks
Has a tracer gt for about a year i found the gearbox notchy build quality was so so hated the dash chopped it in for a 900 tiger ,the tiger beats it hands down for comfort ,handling performance about the same but the tiger feels more torquey , good honest review keep up the good work .
Hmm, IIRC the 2023 has one large TFT dash vs the two smaller ones of the 2022 and previous models. I should know because I've been kicking myself for buying a 2022 vs waiting for 2023. 🤨
Thnx for the review Tracer 900 or bmw Xr 900 or Multistrada 900 or triumph tiger 900??? Or tiger 660 sport for someone who’s 61 and back to biking with 5k miles under his belt ???
Hmmm, tricky, but I do have a soft spot for the Multistrada V2 - ua-cam.com/video/8bYLtbNXTCk/v-deo.html I prefer this triple to the Triumph one as well
IF the tourer does not have a shaft drive then it cannot be the best or the perfect tourer. Chain maintenance will always be a pain in the bum. Actually, I'm not even sure if it is that good if you are a commuter and do not have a garage. Doing any maintenance, even dealing with chain is a paaain without a garage, especially if you live in a wet country, like in the UK or Netherlands. Just get a cheap FJR1300, you can lane filter with it with ease. I know, I'm doing it for 2 years now. Or get a Super Tenere. I've had that too for 2 years. Just get a newer Super Ten, 2nd Gen came out in 2013 with a better gearbox which holds the discs without bloody springs that causes annoying vibrations around 3000 RPM. The fix is to get a second gen basket that holds the discs. The upgrade would cost you about $1500. This info is from 2020.
Hi mate, if you compare this bike to the Tiger 900 Rally Pro you rode 3 months ago, which one you prefer at touring, and why? Cheers from The Netherlands.
Hi Fred, good question and a tough one, I would probably pick the Tracer for purely road work, it’s more fun to ride (fast) is just as comfortable and is more manageable. If there is dirt involved, definitely the Tiger.
@@mancavemoto I know a lot of people are not always keen on the Bridgestone and prefer the Michelin tyres , I have gone back to the Bridgestone because of punctures in the other brands , never had a puncture with a Bridgestone 👍
I have put 15,000 Km on mine and while I generally agree with your assessment, I would not describe the ride quality as "plush". To me a plush ride quality comes with an R1250GS or a Tiger 1200 GT Pro, and the Tracer is not in this league.
Given the consistent derision aimed at the Muppet-faced instrument cluster, why would Yamaha keep it on the GT but wisely toss it for the + model? Aesthetically, I dislike the ubiquitous TFT tablet displays but, egad, I certainly don’t want Gonzo the Great staring at me either. And, even if it didn’t freak me out too much, it certainly impacts its residual value and selling it to others who may not be so tolerant.
@@mancavemoto My sincere apologies for my misjudgement based on misinformation from Toad on a Visordown launch video. You'd expect that being treated to a trip abroad to ride both the new Niken and 900 Tracer models, they'd at least get their facts right. " Both the GT and the GT+ have a new TFT screen" obviously not 🤔😕 I've grown to dislike these manufacturer sponsored test rides and reviews for their glossed over reviews. I now can't even trust them to get the specs right 🙃
Always seem like decent bikes this the mt09 etc Yamaha just skimp on parts and not price rubber hoses poor finishing poor materials suspension etc same with the mt07 and tenere no way should a t7 have a 10k price tag with the basic spec it has I think triumph are missing a trick not making a new tiger sport with a 1200 engine in it a lot of people loved the old 1050
I had one for two months. It’s a dreadful bike. It doesn’t know what it wants to be. To uncomfortable for a tourer, the seat is a ridiculously bad design and good luck correcting it. I tried and laid hundreds to no avail at all. It’s not that fast either so not really a sports bike. I really don’t get this bike at all.
9:22 "Cornering lights". I just don't get the point of these, on cars, or bikes. In 40 years of riding all sorts of bikes, I have NEVER been in a situation where I thought "Hmm...what I could really do with here, is some sort of light that comes on, when I go to turn!". And I can honestly say I've never encountered any circumstances (whether driving, or riding), where a "cornering light" would have improved safety. I'd love to see some sort of statistics that show how many accidents would have been prevented, if cornering lights had been in use. They are just yet another silly gimmick, to sell bikes to mugs who don't know any better.
Have you never ridden down a dark country road at night? Turning into a bend where your headlight keeps pointing forward, the cornering light illuminates in the inside of the bend thus showing any potential hazards that might otherwise be unseen. Seems a pretty decent safety feature to me. Here’s an example at 19:00 from an Africa Twin video ua-cam.com/video/lTo1NmTvWEs/v-deo.html
I can’t say that I dislike the split dash idea, but with the “nose” between them and the bars below, I just get the feeling Jacques Cousteau is staring at me 😆!
😂
Hopefully the split screens will be replaced by the tracer plus dash.
Those who have quick quick to comment telling me this is the 2022 bike and not the 2023, ONLY the GT Plus model in the range gets the new single TFT display for 2023, the standard Tracer and the GT retain the split display.
I've read it and I've apologised, Toad of Visordown seems to now have resorted to misinformation as well as gushing spew on manufacturer sponsored launch reviews. It pains me to think in these days of pre ordering without a test ride or sight of rubber on a showroom floor. How many bikes end up as regrettable purchases finding flaws or quirks glazed over by bought and paid for positive reviewers 😕
Terrible mistake of them to leave that on any version. I guess they are trying to get rid of the stock they have.
@@4tech69 Yeah i could not look at that stupid split dash, no matter how good the rest of the bike is.
Wait, are you telling me that you got the spec sheet for the bike, with the bikes information on it? Like they would Want you to have proper information? You Sir are magical
Reason for me to check reviews one for sale locally, also thought it would be an old model. Nice review on a pretty bike although I think the gauges look like a decepticon with a honker of a nose is looking back at you.
I’ve had a 9GT for 18 months and it’s absolutely superb, great fun and loads of character! That slight delay at take off was on these from new and we owners had to book it in for an update and it’s been perfect since then. Cheers!
Did you sell it? Why? What bike do you ride now?
@@mancavemoto to the mate above. He said he owned that bike for 18 months. So I am just curious why only 18 months if he liked the bike a lot.
Ok no worries
@@SergeyVikultsev @mancavemoto Hi both. I said “I’ve” had one 18months (I have had) - that means had one for 18 months to that point and I still have it today as it’s superb.
Mine’s a ‘71 plate now with 6,000 trouble free miles. Wouldn’t disagree with anything you say. It’s a very friendly bike. I think the BMW dash is better but the ride and handling are unrivalled at the moment, there’s simply nothing better on the market. Great value used, just love riding this more than any other bike I’ve owned!
Hi T have had my Tracer9gt for 6 months now its a great bike and the engine is a peach love it.
Wow. The production and editing of this video is awesome. You are getting really good. One of the best out there on motorcycling.
I bought a "Sports Tourer" 6 months ago, and although i loved the ride & looks, I couldnt get past the cartoon face display. I went for the F900XR and have no regrets thus far. If you're ok with that dash setup, great bike!
Rode the F900xr and it is also a nice bike. Now I have the Tracer 9 and it is just a great value for the money you pay. Drop by, you may like it.
Ha salido la Tracer 9 GT plus, que es mucho mejor moto que la bmw en todo.
Y tiene una magnífica pantalla de 7”
I ve got mine for 2 years now, I am very satisfied, really great bike!
Great to hear!
Great real world review. That's a great colour scheme, one of the nicest I've seen
Cheers
This Yamaha looks good. The sports/tourer market faded over the years in favor of adventure bike segment. I'm old enough to recall what I think us the grand daddy of Sports/tourers and that's the late 70's BMW R100RS. A "Gentlemens" highish speed grand tourer. Glad to see the resurgence of this category. The modern motor if this Yamaha surely fits the bill. The dash however,,,well,,,could use some help. 😊 But being a fan of this genre I'm happy to see this bike succeed.
El segmento Sport turismo es la RS, ninja o suzuki GT
Esta tracer, es Trail
I've had mine 4 years and I love it.only issue I had was a slight problem with the fueling for a time but it cleared by itself? Poor unleaded fuel maybe. I urge you to try the niken,it's amazing and I'd love to get one,what a machine,best day out I ever had on a bike that extra front wheel is incredible 🇮🇲
I'm hoping to be riding the Niken in a few weeks
I own the base model and I see it as a great value for the money. The best part is the CP3 by the way. This one in black and gold it is just a very good looking machine. In this particular color combo it is not just very good-looking, but also elegant in my opinion. Got my like. Great video bro. Take care.
Good reviews I have the 2021 tech kamo And love it. Couldn't agree more with how flexible that engine is 💪
Good review Tony. I really like the look of these, seems just about perfect do it all bike, though not a fan of the Dame Edna dash I much prefer the one on the GT+. Currently on a 1250GS but if i didnt need the space for two larger people touring id definatly be dropping into the local Yamaha dealer. And as a 70s kid, we all know the JPS colour scheme is the coolest ever.
I can live with the dash, but the new single one is a massive improvement, and is preferable for sure
I second that, Lotus with Mario Andreotti in the cockpit
One of the best reviews I’ve heard really good job. Thanks so much I think that bike is a winner.
Thank you!
LOVE that engine! Didn’t love the ergos for me. 5’10” 30” inseam. A little cramped feeling.
Did I mention that I love that engine??
Looking out for the GT+ no more split dash which improves the bike a lot in my view
I agree, hoping to get on one soon
If Yamaha got around to making a Tracer 10GT+ with the MT-10 engine i would be first in line. BMW did it...
Every time you look down you think of johnny five from shoet circuit 😂
Got 2 months ago 2019 Tracer 900 (after 2015 and 2017 FJ09). Great bikes and this must be even better (except the dash)…
And now few months later I’m on 900 GT and love it. I just can’t justified paying 50% more (on used market) for 9GT.
Love those little rechargeable battery pumps, had a cheapo one from Amazon, it lasted for over two years for 4 motorcycles and 2 MTBs, guess its pretty good, happily will have buy another one, nice review Tony, cheers V!
Great bike apart from its looks. The least attractive of all the bikes using this engine, including the Niken. Better panniers than the last model. Ditto the Niken. Great idea having the exhaust out of the way under the bike. Buell did that first. I have an old Ulysses, and the exhaust is a jacking point. I've come round to quite liking the Tracer's dash, and I hated it at first, so maybe the bike's looks will grow on me.
Good review, Tony.
Great review as usual,great bike ❤
Great bike, my wife had an MT 09 fantastic engine.spec is great but it's not cheap but to be fair none of them are now! I can't get over its screens, you know what I mean!! Vlogers hardly ever comment on how a bike is 2 up for comfort and performance. there's no replacement for displacement they say !! great vid as usual ..
I bought one of these new 11 months ago. 5,500 miles later I can say it's a great all round bike. I've done two UK tours and ridden in all weathers. At 1.82m tall I (and many other owners) find the stock screen ruubish. Apart from that my only other issue is that I've ridden it through the winter and despite using ACF50 the finish is pretty poor in places. My five year old Triumph Street Triple looked so much better than this bike does after just one winter. I currently have a claim under the warranty with Yamaha. Unacceptable for a bike costing this much money.
When I bought my Honda VFR800X Crossrunner, it was slightly more money than the Tracer 900, but the difference between the two in build quality was tremendous. 4 years and 36.000km later, my Honda is still spotless after riding it everyday in Europe in the rain, snow, whatever. I don't get the appeal for the Tracer, it just screams for cheap plastic feeling. I don't know...
@ MGman100 exactly, you bought one 11 months ago, this is the 2022 model, the 2023 has a new TFT dash. Thank you for also pointing out the rapid degradation, a point I'm sure will be valuable to those considering buying one 👍😀
@@G91YS Honda is quality.
Only the GT plus model gets the new tft display for 2023. The bike in the video IS a 2023 GT
@Man Cave Moto . Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the windscreen
Great video thanks. That low exhaust is all fine until you have to ride through deep standing water, you'll not be crossing any rivers on this thing😄
You can cross rivers with an exhaust in water, the air intake is rha most important. But why doing it in this bike anyway.
loved the review tony great bike
Yamaha....Please make a Tracer 10 GT.
Great first ride review 👌
Thanks
lovely looking bike! great review!
Great review mate
Cheers
Love it. Especially in white.
Perhaps the bike a lot of GS owners would be happier on, if they don't go off road?
Might have missed you saying usb port?
And what's the maximum load permitted? Some Yamahas won't allow top box, and panniers, if you carry a passenger. Quite important on a sports tourer, I think.
But yes, great bike. ( Tenere 900, anyone?)
Safe, happy travels 👍
Top box and panniers is fine on the Tracer 9.
As someone who moved from a Tracer to a GS after six month ownership I can safely say I won’t be going back & the GS won’t be heading off road intentionally, I considered the RS but the GS just suited better two up. Unless Yamaha come up with a new two up tour option with shaft drive my Yamaha days are over but I guess we’ll all be on belts n batteries before long.
Tracer is fine with top box and panniers. Yes tenere 900 please!!
@@ImJensenKing FJR 1300 ? Maybe not available any more in your country. Still available in some countries.
@@butchcassidy9125 yup looked but they were all on recall for a transmission issue Yamaha should have replaced it with a new model but the numbers must not have stacked up. It was desirable around 2005 not so much in 2020 +
Sold my tracer900gt 5 months ago for financial reasons and it just has a few things that turned me off.
I work at a Yamaha dealer in tokyo so I work on and ride lots of the new tracers and.... I hope I can afford the Tracer 9GT Plus coming this fall because i cnat even think of 1 thing not to like about that bike. (Japan always gets yamahas last so maybe it comes next year like north America)
Yamaha should put a 19” front wheel on this bike. Spoked wheels.
An adventure version 😍. If it happens, so bye tiger 900 Rally Pro.
What do you need the 19 for? Wouldn't a knobby tyre like Scorpion Rally do the job in 99% of cases?
@@fabriciovilela77 if dirt was my thing, i wouldn't buy a big bike anyway.
@@fabriciovilela77 it is true that for casually fast tarmac driving, 19" or even 21" is ok if you get used to it, and then in dirt it is much more enjoyable.
Nice Review! Ordered in the same Colour for 2024! Hope they change the Dash to the one from the GT+!
Nice, even if they dont its a cracing bike, and in reality how much time do you spend looking at the dash!
@@mancavemoto Drove a Rental Bike for some Day´s, i need to look a Lot at the Speedo!😉
😂
Great review, probably watched 30 of them so far, I'm considering a left over 2022 (they never released a 2023 in Canada), there are some dealers that have them for $13,999 CAD, which seems like a great price for the kit you get (MSRP here was $18,099). My only real worries are the dash, screen and seat comfort...you seems to get along well with seat and screen. Dash I worry less about, although already seems dated for a 2022/2023. Too bad they didn't release a firmware update to get more functionality on the right, but suspect they don;t want to spend another penny on that dash.
Thanks, seems like a good deal. If you don't mind the dash thats great, and of course it has no effect on the riding experience, which is excellent
It's a great looking bike, particularly in that colour scheme. The dash is a bit odd but if everything in life was the same, life would be boringly beige.
I’ll take the split screen for $11999 which is what new ones are going for now in the US.
Good, informative review and I like the caveat that you're not a long-term owner so recognising that there may be other elements you haven't covered. For me, having sat on one, it's the dual-screen that I'm pretty sure I'd find annoying to the point that it's made me consider the Tracer 9GT+ or another bike altogether. After so much criticism of it, I can't understand why Yamaha didn't read the room and adopt the GT+'s version. Unless they had heaps of them sat on a shelf somewhere....
I think that tft will appear across all the tracers next year? Most likely left off this year to help push people towards the plus?
@@mancavemoto good point; I’d not upgrade just for the TFT and radar but the double-face might make me look at a Niken or V85TT or the like
The bikes with the split display have only been in build for a couple of years so it would be pointless modifying the electronics to suit the other display at this point, it’s not something that owners complain about, I like how you can have your own choice of info in large digits on the right, and you notice that in normal use ( rather than on test ride ) you are only glancing at the screen occasionally, in fact the only thing I would change about the display would be to add a fuel range meter, that’s it ( it does have a display for fuel used though, and tells you how many miles you have ridden since the fuel light came on )
Must say I've overlooked this bike so far. Seems like it could be a good challenger for the Z1000SX I currently ride. I should give it a try. Switching between the two back to back might be interesting 🤔
I'd be interested to hear your comparison
@@mancavemoto Me, too, specially if there's a significant difference in ergonomics. The Moto Guzzi Mandello V100 comes to mind
I’ve owned a 2015 & 2017 Z1000sx and now have the Tracer 9GT, for me the Tracer is a lot better bike. It’s well worth trying one, at first the seat feels strange the way it’s canted forwards but you can buy a kit that lifts the front of the seat to make it flatter. The engine is a lot more fun, and the comfort for rider and passenger is much better than the SX.
@@markb4772 thanks! Will try to schedule a test ride soon.
@@markb4772 Thanks for your feedback, I’ll be riding a demonstrator next week. Mind you my SX (2021) is according to people who have owned several SXs a big step up from the former Z1000sx iterations
Maybe the King can suggest smaller license plates for the UK? 😂 or….put them on the front and eliminate wind screens 😂
Lovely bike. Yamaha should be proud.
That would be good 😂
Fantastic bike, very high bang for the buck .
Not a fan of the backwards shots, takes me out of the moment. I just want to see the road ahead. Other than that, great review!
I would love one but having tested one its a very cramped seating position coming from my Africa twin.
Yep, it is compared to the AT
Wanted a Tracer Gt for a long time, finally a local dealer had got a 22 model in and got to check out. I was really disappointed in the seating position as well. Felt really cramped compared to my Africa Twin AS. My feet were tucked up under me like a sport bike ride more than a sport tourer.
Glad I got the Africa Twin even more now, but I'm tall 6'2" a shorter rider might not feel that way though.
@@neilmosteller2472 funny that I'm 6ft 2 also seems AT's are made for us 🤣
I don't know how the pricing is in the UK but from what I've seen they have been vastly different. I.E. KTM 690 is 9k over in the UK and 13K in the states. The Tracer 9 is 15k here whereas the MT09 is 9 grand. MT10 is also 15k where it used to be cheaper though I can't remember what it was. I feel that is overpriced but I love the bike and would prefer the fairing and windscreen over the MT09 but 15k is a hard pill to swallow for some tech idc care about.
Thanks for the review. Do you know whether the quickshifter will allow a race shift pattern? Strange question for this type of bike, but I don’t want to juggle between different patterns. Thanks
I think 21+ liters would be more adequate for this bike. If you ride it fast i don't think you can get much more than 200km range, do you?
That would be about your limit if riding it 'vigorously'
The tracer9 gt+ has an excellent big TFT screen just like the one on the new TMAX such a shame that you need to upgrade to the gt+ just to get it...
I reckon that will be on all the tracers next year
Has a tracer gt for about a year i found the gearbox notchy build quality was so so hated the dash chopped it in for a 900 tiger ,the tiger beats it hands down for comfort ,handling performance about the same but the tiger feels more torquey , good honest review keep up the good work .
Hmm, IIRC the 2023 has one large TFT dash vs the two smaller ones of the 2022 and previous models. I should know because I've been kicking myself for buying a 2022 vs waiting for 2023. 🤨
Only the tracer plus gets the big tft in the 2023 model year
@@mancavemoto Gotcha, my bad!
Whats the difference between
9Gt 2023 &
9Gt 2024 ?
As far as I’m aware there is no difference, the 2023 model just rolls into 2024. Unless Yamaha are about to launch an updated 2024 model?
It’s definitely a good looking bike , with a good price , to much tech for me , but definitely a good review 👌
Nice video, What`s the brand & where did you get it? thank you
Brand of what?
Thnx for the review
Tracer 900 or bmw Xr 900 or Multistrada 900 or triumph tiger 900???
Or tiger 660 sport for someone who’s 61 and back to biking with 5k miles under his belt ???
Hmmm, tricky, but I do have a soft spot for the Multistrada V2 - ua-cam.com/video/8bYLtbNXTCk/v-deo.html I prefer this triple to the Triumph one as well
I thought the new one has a TFT display, not the one which is looking at you with the Kissinger's nose :).
Only the GT Plus currently has the new TFT display
How does it ride compared to the FJR1300?
Hi mate, which quickshifter you prefer (at low/medium revs), the Tracer 9 GT or the Tiger 900? Cheers.
Tracer…
What do you think about the suspension? Isnt it too stiff for the bumpy roads?
I thought it was good, theres a nice balance between handling and comfort, plus you've got adjustment with the semi-active set up
Complies with Euro 5 plus? Or Euro 6 already? Of course yes to Euro 5.
Its Euro 5 compliant
What’s the drone your using for overhead views looks excellent footage 👍🏼
It’s an Insta360 X3 on a extendable pole!
Sorry I meant flying over the fields in the opening scenes
Oh, in the sting? That’s not my footage it’s from SW-Motech 👍
Heated seats ? Aka tiger 900 GTP?
There is a heated seat option, but its a £422 accessory
I thought the 2023 had a new 7 inch display?
Only on the GT plus, the standard and GT retain the split dadh
IF the tourer does not have a shaft drive then it cannot be the best or the perfect tourer. Chain maintenance will always be a pain in the bum. Actually, I'm not even sure if it is that good if you are a commuter and do not have a garage. Doing any maintenance, even dealing with chain is a paaain without a garage, especially if you live in a wet country, like in the UK or Netherlands. Just get a cheap FJR1300, you can lane filter with it with ease. I know, I'm doing it for 2 years now. Or get a Super Tenere. I've had that too for 2 years. Just get a newer Super Ten, 2nd Gen came out in 2013 with a better gearbox which holds the discs without bloody springs that causes annoying vibrations around 3000 RPM. The fix is to get a second gen basket that holds the discs. The upgrade would cost you about $1500. This info is from 2020.
This doesn’t seem like the one MCN reviewed recently ? That one had a new TFT dash…..
Yep that’s the new Tracer 9 GT +, they’ve just held the launch event in Sardinia
+ radar guided cruise control & third generation quick shifter.
Isn’t this the older model? I think the new(est) one has different instruments.
Nope, the big tft is currently only available on the GT plus model for 2023
@@mancavemoto that's a shame.
This or the tiger 900 GT PRO?
A tricky choice, I think this is a better engine, but maybe the Tiger offers a little more of a roomy and comfortable riding position?
Hi mate, if you compare this bike to the Tiger 900 Rally Pro you rode 3 months ago, which one you prefer at touring, and why? Cheers from The Netherlands.
Hi Fred, good question and a tough one, I would probably pick the Tracer for purely road work, it’s more fun to ride (fast) is just as comfortable and is more manageable. If there is dirt involved, definitely the Tiger.
@@mancavemoto Thanks for your answer. And which quickshifter you prefer?
The Yamaha’s
I thought the 23 tracer 9 gt has the new dash?
Only the GT plus
That dash... it looks like Woody Allen.
Thought you was going to mention the tyres 🤷♂️
Yep I realised after it was uploaded I left that bit out of the edit! 🤦🏻♂️
@@mancavemoto take it you wasn’t keen on those tyres then 👍
@@johnsutherland8239 no they were good, I just forgot to include the footage!
@@mancavemoto I know a lot of people are not always keen on the Bridgestone and prefer the Michelin tyres , I have gone back to the Bridgestone because of punctures in the other brands , never had a puncture with a Bridgestone 👍
I have put 15,000 Km on mine and while I generally agree with your assessment, I would not describe the ride quality as "plush". To me a plush ride quality comes with an R1250GS or a Tiger 1200 GT Pro, and the Tracer is not in this league.
Plush for a sports tourer...
Given the consistent derision aimed at the Muppet-faced instrument cluster, why would Yamaha keep it on the GT but wisely toss it for the + model? Aesthetically, I dislike the ubiquitous TFT tablet displays but, egad, I certainly don’t want Gonzo the Great staring at me either. And, even if it didn’t freak me out too much, it certainly impacts its residual value and selling it to others who may not be so tolerant.
I thought Yamaha would replace the the Groucho Marx instruments with the clocks from the GT+. C'mon Yamaha, it's 2023!
So why refer to it as a sports tourer rather than what it is an adventure tourer.
I would argue it’s not an adventure tourer. They would usually have a 19 inch front wheel at least and have some kind of off road capability.
Yamaha should have put the TFT display on this model to. Disappointing
I suspect it will follow in next years refresh? At the moment its maybe enough of a driver to push people towards the GT plus?
Not a looker. Gimme an fjr1300
Hmm, that looks like the '22 model, the' 23 model has changed the TFT took a single 7" TFT, looks loads better
Only the 2023 GT plus gets the new single TFT
@@mancavemoto aha! A sneaky way I'll use up the old TFTs whilst making more dosh on a premium model
@@mickleblade yep I suspect to get more people to go for the new model before they roll it out across all the variations
i had one and got rid of it within three months, worst bike ive had in years. Suspension is crap. Couldn't get on with it
This is not 2023. 23 has single large display
Oh but it is, only the GT plus has the single tft in the 2023 model year line up….
This isn't the 2023 model it has a new TFT, so either you're terribly late to the party old chap, or this is intentional click bait 🤔😕
Incorrect my friend, only the GT Plus model in the 2023 line up gets the new TFT. The Standard Tracer and Tracer GT keep the split display
@@mancavemoto My sincere apologies for my misjudgement based on misinformation from Toad on a Visordown launch video. You'd expect that being treated to a trip abroad to ride both the new Niken and 900 Tracer models, they'd at least get their facts right. " Both the GT and the GT+ have a new TFT screen" obviously not 🤔😕 I've grown to dislike these manufacturer sponsored test rides and reviews for their glossed over reviews. I now can't even trust them to get the specs right 🙃
I’m saying nothing…..😏😉
🤣
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this is Not a 2023 Model
Yes it is….
Such a nice bike ruined by that dashboard it's like having a face with large square glasses and a big nose looking at you
Always seem like decent bikes this the mt09 etc Yamaha just skimp on parts and not price rubber hoses poor finishing poor materials suspension etc same with the mt07 and tenere no way should a t7 have a 10k price tag with the basic spec it has I think triumph are missing a trick not making a new tiger sport with a 1200 engine in it a lot of people loved the old 1050
Or/and Sprint ST.
@@markharrison2484 yup with the ninja sx and the Suzuki 1000gt selling so well I don’t see why they won’t make it again
I had one for two months. It’s a dreadful bike. It doesn’t know what it wants to be. To uncomfortable for a tourer, the seat is a ridiculously bad design and good luck correcting it. I tried and laid hundreds to no avail at all.
It’s not that fast either so not really a sports bike. I really don’t get this bike at all.
beatyful bike, but that display .... cannot look at it
Sweet engine but what a fugly dash.. worst on a current bike.
2023 Old tracer 9 GT you mean... Bit late to the game mate.
Did I call it a ‘new’ Tracer? It’a a 2023 bike, we can’t all be reviewing bikes at launch, but thanks for the comment
That dash.. 🤮
Design wise it isn't beautiful
9:22 "Cornering lights". I just don't get the point of these, on cars, or bikes. In 40 years of riding all sorts of bikes, I have NEVER been in a situation where I thought "Hmm...what I could really do with here, is some sort of light that comes on, when I go to turn!". And I can honestly say I've never encountered any circumstances (whether driving, or riding), where a "cornering light" would have improved safety. I'd love to see some sort of statistics that show how many accidents would have been prevented, if cornering lights had been in use. They are just yet another silly gimmick, to sell bikes to mugs who don't know any better.
Have you never ridden down a dark country road at night? Turning into a bend where your headlight keeps pointing forward, the cornering light illuminates in the inside of the bend thus showing any potential hazards that might otherwise be unseen. Seems a pretty decent safety feature to me. Here’s an example at 19:00 from an Africa Twin video ua-cam.com/video/lTo1NmTvWEs/v-deo.html
I would override the "corner on" option and keep em on all the time. CAGERS just don't pay attn. to us.😄