@@Greggspies Don't care about that, I ride bikes for a LONG time. I love my 22 Tracer, don't really care about the adaptive cruise control and the older display is fine. It is a *great* bike.
A couple of years ago I was after a bike for touring and tested the Tracer and for some reason I just couldn't get along with it. The ergonomics didnt work for me, the suspension felt weird and despite having an XSR 900 for 2 years and loving the engine, on the Tracer the CP3 felt a bit underpowered. In the end i went for the Kawasaki Versys 1000 and i love it. Anyways these things are highly personal and by all accounts the Tracer is an excellent choice.
Just traded up from my 2019 Tracer 900 to the 2023 Tracer GT+ and it's a great bike! I wasn't impressed by last years model and the split screens just didn't do it for me, but this years model is just on another level. It's so light & flickable and feels very repsonsive. I'm really looking forward to piling on the mileage and taking it over to the Alps next year. Thanks for the upload.
Hi Tony, great review. Thank you. For nearly 10 years and 3 cars later, I now can’t live without active cruise control and this bike is definitely on my list for my next 2 wheel vehicle. I was apposed to ABS on bikes and cars in the 90’s as I could stop both quicker without however it’s like anything as once you get used to it the tech becomes something you’d prefer to have even if it never gets used. The adaptive cruise and auto braking just makes the experience not only better, it’s also safer too. 👍😎
Thank you Tony for the Review , I got the GT+ last week, it’s a lovely machine , I do agree with you on the new options , Smooth bike to Ride, love it 💪
The problem with KTM is dealer in north northeast UK. Not many around and for everyday users I can't risk that but I tried the other two and didn't like them. Not that they are bad bikes but they are too big for everyday filtering in traffic .but thanks for info
Great review. I worry about big lexan screens. I wear hi-vis green and find, like on my ST1300, the reflection of the colour on the screen in sunny weather makes them difficult to read. And if any who hasn't used adaptive cruise, treat yourself. It's great, especially on motorways with moderate traffic.
A very informative review, it looks a great touring bike and obviously greet on the back lanes. The joystick control looks so much better than the spinning wheel controller like I have on my Tenere World Raid, thank goodness I hardly have to use it.
Like it a lot. But that's a lot of money. I think the first Tracer was £7999. Great value. That part of the bikes weaponry has gone. And I'm not sure I need to do a pre flight check before I ride. KISS works for me. Definitely room for a low tech no nonsense less money version. Because the engine is amazing. Good review though. Ride safe and happy travels 👍
@@marksimpson5218 true enough. I don't think they want you buying them outright, hence the high prices. Sign for a 3yr pcp. Pay them to service it for the duration. Swap it for another after 3 yrs. Dealer sells your nice, low mileage dealer serviced bike with a 1yr warranty, after which all the high tech problems are the customers responsibility, and not his. Or am I just being cynical? Ride safe.
If you want tech on bikes it's going to cost more. The cost of new bikes is going up. But I do agree tracer 9gt plus at that price is starting to get into BMW range.
Extremely good bike but getting rather pricey. I liked the split dash on the old one. Such complicated electronics on so many modern bikes. Give me an old-school bike. Hang on, I've got two. Nick J
Hi Tony. I’m thinking of buying the Tracer 9 GT PLUS. But can I ask, how would you compare it with the BMW GS 1300? Apart from the extra power, the spec you get and extras like panniers being included, the Yamaha seams on paper, the much better bike. Can I ask your opinion on this please? Andy.
Thanks for the review. Bike looks really good and agree with you that the plus looks worth the money. I really like the look of it too particulary now with that single tft display. For me though it's probably a bit to quick...would get myself into trouble 😂
Would love to see a video that covers a specific route on an adventure Bike, also covers the kit you use for an overnight stay. Being greedy here but...would like recommendations on cafes too.
I owned a tracer 900GT which was 11.5k€ nearly 3 years ago now. The fact that these bikes are now up to 17k in that time span is crazy if u ask me. The bike has improved yes, it has more technology definitely but is it 5.5k€ worth of technology? I guess thats a question everyone has to answer. But in my opinion the tracer 900 went from a budget sport tourer (a good one) to now be reaching the levels of africa twin/1250GS. If i was going to pay that amount of money i rather buy a 1-2 year old GS for that money.
Like the bike. Dislike the colours. Grey on a gloomy overcast island is the reason I dislike grey and silver cars - they disappear into the environment. Let's hope for alternative colours options soon.
Great bike but sit it next to my Multi V2S and it looks so ugly, they need an Italian design team. Seem to have sorted out the dash though and the seat looks great.
@@inked-96Only every 18,000 miles, it’s a full day engine out job, ironically the valves are known for needing hardly any adjustment. My servicing costs up to now have been cheaper than my previous GSs. The V4 big service is at 36,000 miles…
Shame they still only light up one headlight. Also i have a MT10sp and thos headlights are shit... i have had three crack luckily all replaced on warranty. Now have some protectors on the new ones but you shouldn't have to do that. The triple engine on the 9 is awesome i had a MT09sp and the motor was brilliant
Overpriced most definitely. Nice colour. Ridiculously shaped panniers (should of copied z1000sx panniers)! I have an XSR so similar performance. Great fun!
Great review as this particular model has piqued my interest lately. However my question is regarding your gloves. Love the colour scheme, would you mind confirming what they are please? 😊
Gidday, enjoy your reviews, would like your opinion please, for general leisurely touring, on lesser quality roads(b roads) say between 300-600 k rides, this bike or the Tiger 900 Rally Pro? Cheers (off road not relevant, comfort paramount)
Hmm tricky one, the Rally Pro is a comfortable bike, but the GT Pro would be more of a closer comparison. That also has the benefit of semi active electronic suspension
Does anyone know if any of the improvements have cared over to the 2023 Tracer GT? Like the rear brake size upgrade or the improved quick shifter? Thank for another great review.
As stand alone devices? I have both, the Garmin for longer tours or when I’m exploring and I want to easily scan/resize the map. I use a Beeline when I want a simple and easy installation and discreet navigation. The Garmin is obviously much more flexible and offers greater features, but it’s a lot more expensive. If it’s going one one bike, like the Tracer for example, then the Garmin makes more sense. If your referring to the inbuilt turn by turn navigation? Then I’d prefer to use the Beeline Moto II
@@mancavemoto Thank you for your answer, it is very well explained what the relationships between both navigation systems are. I'm planning to buy the Yahama Tracer 9 GT+, so I'm looking into all kinds of options. Thanks again, I love your videos! 👍🏻
I had it on a demo a few weeks ago, and I was underwhelmed with all the reviews I've seen. I thought the seat was really hard for a touring bike, and I thought the quickshifter and blipper felt hard to shift, but on a plus note, the Adaptive cruise was great to use.
I saw you were averaging 60 mpg on that TFT, interesting so with a 18 liter tank were you getting around 200 miles range? I have read other reviews that they were getting 160-180 miles range LOL I also know motorcycle testers-reviewers tend to use a lot of throttle percentage, i.e. ride fast. I realize load, speed, fuel quality, weather and traffic all factor into actual mileage.
Hi. Guys I need your help. I want a motorcycle to comute to work daily and also the bike should be comfy and powerful to ride on weekends with my wife. I live in London and I need the bike to not bee too wide so I can filter with him. I did own couple years ago a Suzuki GSX-S 750. It was stolen from the front of my house 😢. Thank you and have a safe ride. Do you think the tracer can be that bike?
I have a Tracer 9 GT. Has the new seat fixed the forward slope of the seat that sees you slipping forward over time and jammed against the tank? If so, can it be purchased as a spare part and fitted to the 2021 model?
The radar is active at all times and uses the signal for the brake assist system and for the ACC when activated. But it only acts as an aid when the rider brakes, it won't break for you and its not a collision avoidance function. I'm not sure how the ACC would react when filtering. I know you can only switch it on over 30km/h, but i'd need to ask Yamaha
My youth is gone, thinking about selling my Harley, this motorbike seems to check a lot of boxes for me, thanks for the demonstration
These make way more sense than a £20k+ R1250GS for way less money.
GS won't lose money like the Yamaha
@@Greggspies Don't care about that, I ride bikes for a LONG time. I love my 22 Tracer, don't really care about the adaptive cruise control and the older display is fine. It is a *great* bike.
@@Greggspies Dunno about that. I had a 1200 & 1250 & I lost loads. The high residual thing is a bit of a red herring.
A couple of years ago I was after a bike for touring and tested the Tracer and for some reason I just couldn't get along with it. The ergonomics didnt work for me, the suspension felt weird and despite having an XSR 900 for 2 years and loving the engine, on the Tracer the CP3 felt a bit underpowered. In the end i went for the Kawasaki Versys 1000 and i love it. Anyways these things are highly personal and by all accounts the Tracer is an excellent choice.
I feel that the plus model should come with hill hold control and the top case.
My Toyota has the adaptive cruise control. I don’t think it’s a gimmick at all. In the process of trying to get this bike.
Just traded up from my 2019 Tracer 900 to the 2023 Tracer GT+ and it's a great bike! I wasn't impressed by last years model and the split screens just didn't do it for me, but this years model is just on another level. It's so light & flickable and feels very repsonsive. I'm really looking forward to piling on the mileage and taking it over to the Alps next year. Thanks for the upload.
Thanks for sharing!
@@mancavemoto the best news is that the Tracer 9GT+ now comes with £1500 accessory package from Yamaha as of tomorrow, Monday 2nd October 2023 🤘
Ah nice!
That adaptive cruise control could be a deal maker for me.
It works really well
Hi Tony, great review. Thank you. For nearly 10 years and 3 cars later, I now can’t live without active cruise control and this bike is definitely on my list for my next 2 wheel vehicle. I was apposed to ABS on bikes and cars in the 90’s as I could stop both quicker without however it’s like anything as once you get used to it the tech becomes something you’d prefer to have even if it never gets used. The adaptive cruise and auto braking just makes the experience not only better, it’s also safer too. 👍😎
Thank you Tony for the Review , I got the GT+ last week, it’s a lovely machine , I do agree with you on the new options , Smooth bike to Ride, love it 💪
15k for a tracer is ridiculous. Good review, Keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
What bike do you think is worth 15?
I want to spend that much on a Turing bike 😊
@chupacabra7224 for 15k, you can get a 1290SAS 23 plate, 1250GS 20 plate. S1000XR 22 plate, all better bikes.
The problem with KTM is dealer in north northeast UK. Not many around and for everyday users I can't risk that but I tried the other two and didn't like them.
Not that they are bad bikes but they are too big for everyday filtering in traffic .but thanks for info
@@chupacabra7224 Suzuki GSXS1000GT
Great review.
I worry about big lexan screens. I wear hi-vis green and find, like on my ST1300, the reflection of the colour on the screen in sunny weather makes them difficult to read.
And if any who hasn't used adaptive cruise, treat yourself. It's great, especially on motorways with moderate traffic.
A very informative review, it looks a great touring bike and obviously greet on the back lanes. The joystick control looks so much better than the spinning wheel controller like I have on my Tenere World Raid, thank goodness I hardly have to use it.
yes the thumb wheel was a bit hit & miss for me
Safe to assume when the adaptive cruise needs to slow bike down, it activates the brake light??? Great review as usual. Thanks
Yes it does
I went for the 1050 Vstrom, hill hold and ticks over at 80mph. Can keep all the other gizmos
Great review and a good looking bike. Definitely prefer the dash to the split one.
Like it a lot. But that's a lot of money.
I think the first Tracer was £7999. Great value. That part of the bikes weaponry has gone.
And I'm not sure I need to do a pre flight check before I ride. KISS works for me.
Definitely room for a low tech no nonsense less money version. Because the engine is amazing.
Good review though.
Ride safe and happy travels 👍
The Tracer 9 is the low tech no nonsense less money version, for this you’re paying for the tech wizardry, if you want it
It is a lot of money, but the new 1300gs will be well north of 20k and you will still have to buy panniers etc.
@@marksimpson5218 true enough.
I don't think they want you buying them outright, hence the high prices.
Sign for a 3yr pcp.
Pay them to service it for the duration.
Swap it for another after 3 yrs.
Dealer sells your nice, low mileage dealer serviced bike with a 1yr warranty, after which all the high tech problems are the customers responsibility, and not his.
Or am I just being cynical?
Ride safe.
If you want tech on bikes it's going to cost more. The cost of new bikes is going up. But I do agree tracer 9gt plus at that price is starting to get into BMW range.
Nice review Tony
What about this vs. Honda Africa Twin AS for street duty?
Extremely good bike but getting rather pricey. I liked the split dash on the old one. Such complicated electronics on so many modern bikes. Give me an old-school bike. Hang on, I've got two. Nick J
Super interested in this report- thx. I have 1290S with ACC and I'd never buy another bike without it (I do a lot of motorway).
Hi Tony. I’m thinking of buying the Tracer 9 GT PLUS. But can I ask, how would you compare it with the BMW GS 1300? Apart from the extra power, the spec you get and extras like panniers being included, the Yamaha seams on paper, the much better bike. Can I ask your opinion on this please? Andy.
Thanks for the review. Bike looks really good and agree with you that the plus looks worth the money. I really like the look of it too particulary now with that single tft display. For me though it's probably a bit to quick...would get myself into trouble 😂
Would love to see a video that covers a specific route on an adventure Bike, also covers the kit you use for an overnight stay. Being greedy here but...would like recommendations on cafes too.
I’ve got some videos that would cover that! And there’s an Ireland trip video to come too
Looks a good bike with a vast improvement of the new dash.Thks.
Screen straight from the Tmax Tech Max, it’s a real shame no car play the Garmin system is outdated.
How's it going Tony? Nice review as ever thankyou.
Fantastic level of info, great review
Thanks
Great to see adaptive CC in real life use. I have a 2018 GT and i'm very tempted.... great review as usual. Ps funky gloves😊
Thanks! 👍 yep I saw those and thought, yep they'll work!
You can always get a Bell Bullet helmet in the Stripes, Command or Speedway retro style to compliment the gloves. @@mancavemoto
Nice one Tony. A techtastic machine.
I owned a tracer 900GT which was 11.5k€ nearly 3 years ago now. The fact that these bikes are now up to 17k in that time span is crazy if u ask me. The bike has improved yes, it has more technology definitely but is it 5.5k€ worth of technology? I guess thats a question everyone has to answer. But in my opinion the tracer 900 went from a budget sport tourer (a good one) to now be reaching the levels of africa twin/1250GS. If i was going to pay that amount of money i rather buy a 1-2 year old GS for that money.
You can still buy the base level Tracer 9 for £11k bike prices have gone up obviously, and the top end Africa Twin will now set you back £20k
Can pick them up now for 12.5 used eith under 3k miles. That's why I'd never buy new.
Great all the elec stuff but no shaft drive my fjr 2002 is superb and has no abs and all the stuff but i am oldschool
Great review thanks
Like the bike. Dislike the colours. Grey on a gloomy overcast island is the reason I dislike grey and silver cars - they disappear into the environment. Let's hope for alternative colours options soon.
Great bike but sit it next to my Multi V2S and it looks so ugly, they need an Italian design team. Seem to have sorted out the dash though and the seat looks great.
Multi servicing costs are ridiculous aren't they? Mate had his major service and it was £900.
@@inked-96Only every 18,000 miles, it’s a full day engine out job, ironically the valves are known for needing hardly any adjustment. My servicing costs up to now have been cheaper than my previous GSs. The V4 big service is at 36,000 miles…
Great Cruise Control system on this bike.
Great video thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it
Yamaha, please do the gt+ in pearl white 🙏🏻
That would be nice
Shame they still only light up one headlight.
Also i have a MT10sp and thos headlights are shit... i have had three crack luckily all replaced on warranty. Now have some protectors on the new ones but you shouldn't have to do that.
The triple engine on the 9 is awesome i had a MT09sp and the motor was brilliant
Yes that annoys me a bit as well
Overpriced most definitely. Nice colour. Ridiculously shaped panniers (should of copied z1000sx panniers)! I have an XSR so similar performance. Great fun!
another clear and useful review Tony..
What would be your choice… this or the Tiger 900 GT Pro?
Thanks, I think I’d take this
Interesting..why the Yamaha?
@alanbarnes2920 I prefer the engine, and the riding experience
Great review as this particular model has piqued my interest lately. However my question is regarding your gloves. Love the colour scheme, would you mind confirming what they are please? 😊
Thank you. The gloves are great aren’t they?! Rev’it Redhill in red/blue
Gidday, enjoy your reviews, would like your opinion please, for general leisurely touring, on lesser quality roads(b roads) say between 300-600 k rides, this bike or the Tiger 900 Rally Pro? Cheers (off road not relevant, comfort paramount)
Hmm tricky one, the Rally Pro is a comfortable bike, but the GT Pro would be more of a closer comparison. That also has the benefit of semi active electronic suspension
Does anyone know if any of the improvements have cared over to the 2023 Tracer GT? Like the rear brake size upgrade or the improved quick shifter? Thank for another great review.
The 3rd gen quickshifter is only on the plus
The rear brake is only needed because of the radar controlled cruise. I would expect the 24 GT to include the new instruments and controls
Hi, would you go for the Garmin Navigation or for the Beeline Moto II if it was your choice?
As stand alone devices? I have both, the Garmin for longer tours or when I’m exploring and I want to easily scan/resize the map. I use a Beeline when I want a simple and easy installation and discreet navigation. The Garmin is obviously much more flexible and offers greater features, but it’s a lot more expensive. If it’s going one one bike, like the Tracer for example, then the Garmin makes more sense. If your referring to the inbuilt turn by turn navigation? Then I’d prefer to use the Beeline Moto II
@@mancavemoto Thank you for your answer, it is very well explained what the relationships between both navigation systems are. I'm planning to buy the Yahama Tracer 9 GT+, so I'm looking into all kinds of options. Thanks again, I love your videos! 👍🏻
I had it on a demo a few weeks ago, and I was underwhelmed with all the reviews I've seen. I thought the seat was really hard for a touring bike, and I thought the quickshifter and blipper felt hard to shift, but on a plus note, the Adaptive cruise was great to use.
I saw you were averaging 60 mpg on that TFT, interesting so with a 18 liter tank were you getting around 200 miles range? I have read other reviews that they were getting 160-180 miles range LOL I also know motorcycle testers-reviewers tend to use a lot of throttle percentage, i.e. ride fast.
I realize load, speed, fuel quality, weather and traffic all factor into actual mileage.
The tracer is great on fuel. If I stick to the UK speed limits on my 900gt my average is 69mpg.
Yep, ride it normally and it’s a pretty frugal machine
are there any other options for navigation besides the garmin?
Not built into the bike as far as I’m aware no
Can you use cruise without adaptive cruise control?
No, ACC is the default. But I can’t think of why they would offer two operational options.
Hi. Guys I need your help. I want a motorcycle to comute to work daily and also the bike should be comfy and powerful to ride on weekends with my wife. I live in London and I need the bike to not bee too wide so I can filter with him.
I did own couple years ago a Suzuki GSX-S 750. It was stolen from the front of my house 😢.
Thank you and have a safe ride.
Do you think the tracer can be that bike?
Definitely
I have a Tracer 9 GT. Has the new seat fixed the forward slope of the seat that sees you slipping forward over time and jammed against the tank? If so, can it be purchased as a spare part and fitted to the 2021 model?
I think it’s just a different seat cover not a different seat
I didnt have any issues with it, so I guess the reshaping has made a difference? Thats a question for your local dealer
@morri03 No it’s a different seat, it’s profile is different to the other models.
Well I test it on 2022, and for me was complete crap, if you compare vs Tiger 900 GT PRO.
Hi may I know the behavior of GT+ radar during lane filtering? TIA
I wouldn't use cruise control when filtering, i'd turn it off
@@mancavemoto it will not detect a collision when filtering if cruise control is off? It will not activate UBS? TIA
The radar is active at all times and uses the signal for the brake assist system and for the ACC when activated. But it only acts as an aid when the rider brakes, it won't break for you and its not a collision avoidance function. I'm not sure how the ACC would react when filtering. I know you can only switch it on over 30km/h, but i'd need to ask Yamaha
The GT is not offered in 2023 in the USA....This GT+ is a great bike.
No Apple Carplay or Android auto then?
Nope
The new 2024 tracer 900 come with the TFT in Australia
890 smt vs this
Quite different bikes for me I think. This will bash out the miles in more comfort
great review but a lot of money
Well that’s a motorcycle Tesla!
I just can’t get over the front of the bike. Looks quite….like an angry squid of some sort.