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TESTED: Henry Big Boy All-Weather (357 Magnum)
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After reviewing Henry’s X-model 30-30 rifle, we found ourselves eagerly awaiting the delivery of another Henry lever action. In the past year, we’ve taken a closer look at the 45-70 and 30-30 cartridges. The crew here at Ultimate Reloader is quite taken by lever action rifles, as are all our visitors! Henry recently shipped us a new Big Boy All Weather 38/357 carbine - it is so much fun to shoot!
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One thing my father taught me ,I don't care who's holding it me anyone ,who checked it, the minute you have it in your hands you always check it to make sure it's not loaded ,it's all about safety safety safety, God bless my father
God bless 🙌
Absolutely right! Sounds like a good guy with the most solid advice for guns. God bless.
Good fundamentals
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Got my 44 mag all-weather in march. Amazing rifle
I want one of these so bad!
@@Heavy-C Refresh Buds website with henry as the rifle manufacturer. Eventually they pop up
Just bought a Henry Big Boy Brass Classic in 357mag/38spl
I have the 45-70 version of this. Hunted one season with the open sights and really enjoyed it. Adding a Vortex Diamondback optic took it to the next level.
How’s the recoil?
@@Hialeah1925 I have the blued steel Henry 45-70. I don’t shoot the high power loads, but generally the low and medium stuff like the cowboy loads and Remington green box. It’s not bad at all.
You get a nice butt pad and the rifle is solid. I would compare it to a 12 guage: you can load it down or up and the recoil goes along with the load.
I took a doe this season with that rifle and she didn’t run far. I was surprised how little meat was lost to the 45-70. It was a thumb sized hole in and out. My.270 did more damage to the meat.
The only modification I made was removing the rear sight and adding a Ranger Point Precision rear aperture sight. It’s awesome!
I highly recommend Henry. And Ranger Point Precision sights.
There’s a recall for that gun. Just making you aware. Henry is working on the solution.
I own this exact rifle and I love showing it off. I’ve put many rounds through it and I love it. It’s a great rifle and one I carry
so the bih's are on your dilly? I am really thinking of getting one
Skinner peep sight was a big boost for mine.
Skinner sights are the best for lever actions. I’ve tried buckhorn, Skinner and the Ranger Point Precision clover leaf on my levers, and the Skinner can’t be beat.
I’ve done 200 yards at Snoqualmie with them on steel offhand with no issues once I get my bearings for the drop.
Pistol caliber carbines are just plain fun. Do some practical comparisons with bullet rise and drop over range, say out to 150 yards in 25 yard increments with your new rifle.
Plain fun and after some practice and testing can be really practical for a camping/ truck gun...if you are are a revolver guy and carry a 357 or 44 mag revolver all the time..and pair it with a lever gun in 357 or 44 mag...u have you every day pistol and and a long gun in the truck that both take the same ammo .
The Henry 357 is very difficult to get in Canada, it's a great rifle and I always want to have one. Great review !
Why's it hard to get? Just wondering
I have it in 45 Colt (because that’s the only caliber I could find at the time). Despite the expensive ammo, I love shooting this gun. It’s the fist and only lever action I’ve ever tried, and it’s a ton of fun, and super accurate with just the iron sights.
Thanks gentlemen. I've had my eye on one of these for a long time.
I really like the depth of shooting up the hillside. Cool range.
I load 200 grain Lee cast lead bullets in mine, 15.5 grains of H110, it is a 35 Remington bullet.
Ok man, next time I visit I’ve got to shoot your lever guns as you are making me jealous as heck. The Big Boy side gate in 357 has been on my wishlist for over a year
I have the Big Boy steel in .45 colt. Wonderful shooter. I shoot the 225 grn semi-jacketed FP. Doesn't have the side gate but I still appreciate this rifle.
From Canada wanted one bad and waited over two years (limited supply) gave up and got the Rossi 92 in 357. No regrets a super fun gun.
I don't know what's up with centerfire Henry's up here? Been waiting for over a year now for a 44 Mag Big Boy. Maybe getting a Rossi is the way to go?
@@briansearles4473
I'm in Fresno California and ordered a Big Boy side gate .357 with 20" barrel 3 weeks ago at Turner's and it's here already.
Maybe try again?
@@331Grabber and that's probably why we don't get that many up here because they are loved by Americans as well, and well you should get first pick. unless it's a CZ
@@331Grabber The only Henry's to be found in Canada right now are the rimfire models. Have searched all over the "net" without luck.
@@briansearles4473
Can you buy off Gunbroker up there? Henrys are generally overpriced on there but are available. I'm speaking as an American who has no idea how hard it is to buy an American gun from Canada.
I moved from a 22 Ruger Ranch Rifle with a clip to a Winchester 30/30 when I was 12 years old. This Henry 357 reminds me of it. Looks great and I already have the bullets for my 357 Smith and Wesson. I'm going to buy this. It's great looking and it's a familiar platform. Great brush gun and easy to carry. Thanks for the awesome review. Now I want one.
hey did you end up getting it? I am looking to get something that isn't the same for my collection. i. never thoguht i would want a gun like this but I am getting older and starting to want somethingdifferent than my AR's
Look’s like you fella’s are having too much fun, I’m going to get 2 lever’s from Henry chambered in .357 and 30-30 both in all weather 👌
I scope all my rifles. Have a vortex 1-4 on my Henry 45 Colt and a 3-9 on my 327 Federal
Winchester Model 71 chambered in 348 it's amazing lever action, most of you have probably never heard of it, but it's badass
I like that it can be loaded via the side gate or thru the tube. I'd be interested to see the velocity difference between the 20 inch and a 16 inch barrel. I think I'd go the peep sight route.
357 is interesting in that its an old tech handgun load, its burning qualities are much different than let's say a 556, it maxes out in performance pretty much at 16 in, 20 in is for tube capacity and iron sight accuracy. if you intend to shoot iron sight, 20 is pretty much needed for 100-150 yard accuracy. With a 16 im pretty maxed out to 80-100 on irons but my 20 i can get 140-160.
@@tranderrickdo you shoot deer with these?
@@casejasnoch2533 you certainly can hunt white tail with .357 there are rifle specific rounds that perform considerably well in comparison to what one would typically buy for a 2-8" barreled revolver. Don't let the nay sayers tell you it can't be done. It absolutely can be without an issue. Check out some UA-cam videos about it. Good luck and happy hunting.
@@shadrach5681Thanks. Is there a round that you use?
When you get around to handloading for the Big Boy, take a look at Accurate 11FS powder. In my opinion it's a better H110, cleaner burning and lower flash. And remarkably in these times, it can be found in stock.
I may just have to get me one of those! LOVE lever guns!
I'm in my 10 day wait for the regular version of this same rifle. Excited
Yep, need one!
I just bought the .357-38 special with 20” octagon barrel with the Brass Receiver. I shot it with 38 special. I was surprised that there was absolutely no recoil felt. I will have to shot some .357 out of it next.
must be a sign. I heard a Henry commercial today and was thinking 'I need a pistol caliber Henry for a caliber I already load." And voila, here this video comes.
I'd been trying not to buy one... Then Henry sent us this one... Oh my... I may not be able to hold out any longer. That is such a fun little rifle!
bought some pmc 158gr 357, rated at 1471 fps. shot out of my 4” Ruger GP 100 and hot damn! they were hot loads. that’s what she said.
Gavin, I want to run some 180 grain Buffalo Bore ammo through this sweet Henry rifle!
I got the Henry All Weather 30/30, Athlon sight, dead on ringing steel at 300 No Prob!
Excellent! I surprised the fellows at our gun club by ringing the 300 yard gong with my old 30-30 Glenfield. :)
Henry makes some fine lever guns. I have 2 a brass big boy 44 and a steel 30-30. They shoot smooth and are dead nuts accurate.i love my Henry. They fill my freezer with deer meat every year.
Great video I'm waiting on a Henry x rifle in 30 30 how about a video on cleaning the barrel and action
Shoot! I get around 1950fps on a cool day with my Marlin 30-30 with a max charge of W748 and a Sierra 170. That is somewhat of a significant advantage. On the other hand.... Its pretty dang close!!!
The pride of taking a deer with one of these would far exceed that of a modern rifle with a high BC bullet.
I’ve got the golden boy and love it
I bought a Henry Big Boy 357 mag a couple of years ago. Only thing I didn't like about it was that it was Tube fed. Then they started putting loading gates in later rifles. As accuracy is concerned I am very happy with it.
Damn that looks like fun. My current levers are 30/30 and 35 Remington, might have to add something new for fun, 357 or 44 mag maybe. Love the videos you guys put out, keep it up..
If i were too buy a henry lever gun wit the pistol caliber,,,, im pretty sure the 44 mag would be my first choice.. jus looks better on paper.
I'd love to see you guys mount up an aperture sight cowitnessing with a red dot on the rail accessory. I'm thinking 180 grainers with that sight setup would make this the absolute perfect 75 yard and below camp rifle.
Skinner sights are the best for lever actions. I’ve tried buckhorn, Skinner and the Ranger Point Precision clover leaf on my levers, and the Skinner can’t be beat.
I have X model 357. Love the 357
I've got a Ranger point peep on my big boy steel with a 20 inch tube pre side gate..... Shoots 1 hole ragged at 50 with 158 Xtps and 16.6 of H110. I've gotten better velocities out of 300mp but haven't gotten around to working up my accurate load with that powder. Be careful if you shoot 38s standard pressure 158s. Had factory Fiocchi BIB on my son. Stopped 2.8 inches from the muzzle. My 38s with 125gr fp xtremes with titegroup are damn fun. Currently working up 357s 158 xtreme rnfp with titegroup, hp38 and Longshot. Gonna test and chrony them all Sunday. Definitely fun guns.
Interesting! So the 38 bullet didn't even make it to the end of the barrel? Wow... Appreciate the warning.
Do a test 357mag leverevoloution hornady vs hammer down
125gr HP's usually get into the 2100-2200 fps range. Pretty much puts it on par with a 7.62x39.
Video on 45 70 would be outstanding! Great video and information.
Thanks for the great reviews!! Love it
A gel test would be great with the new ammo. Also, cast bullet loads, like 180 to 200 grain. Maybe, Hornady 140 grain FTX ammo. Gell tests for all!
No disrespect to Henry and their rifles...I went with the Marlin 1894 in 357Mag (1980) and a 44Mag (1979). Both have been fantastic.
Both of those Marlins are fine models.
Henry makes the best lever action today and has for the last 10 years
I like turtles….
I own a .44 magnum Winchester 94.
I wanted a .357 but ?
You make a good point. Marlin has had this pistol-cartridge carbine thing down for a long time. I suspect that Ruger will re-introduce the 357 and 44 1894's soon. Hoping to get a chance to check those out as well. :)
@@guyminer2384 Marlin 1894C (bought new 1981ish) was one of my Top 5 Seller's Regret. Used ones sell for stupendous amounts on GB, with a near mint easily $1500. Makes seller's regret even worse. Put a receiver peep on it.
Please do more gun reviews!
Outstanding gents. Well done. Under 100 yards this is a great deer set up.
Recoil is such a treat. I prefer the 44 magnum. But nothing wrong with 357 mag. Gonna get the 44 at some point. Thank you.
I'm torn between the 357 and the 44.. Might end up with one of each!
@@guyminer2384 Yes Sir! Yes Sir....that is the best solution to such a problem. I & my family have successfully harvested more whitetail in the Midwest with 44 magnum revolvers & rifles than I can remember since the mid 90s. Many were taken within 50 yards but a # of them at 100 & few just under 120. 240 grain JHP & mostly XTP for 20 years. Very effective. My daughters all choose a 44 magnum over a 243, 308 or such for whitetail. Enjoy. Appreciate you & your attitude & experience. Being a Marine is all the better.
@@guardianminifarm8005 - thanks! I'm tempted to go for the 44 version. We have bears and such here in Washington. Bigger holes seem like better bullet holes to me.
another vote for peep sights on this type of rifle. Way cheaper than other sight upgrades and excellent for the shooting distances of this rifle.
I'm hoping that we put a peep sight on this little lever action!
I'd like to see Buffalo bore 158 grn into a gel block, (placed at 100 yrds). I'm seriously considering the All Weather 357 as my next deer rifle. I think 100 yards is about max range for that set up, but I'd like to see the performance of those rounds at range. Great channel, thanks.
I do like a scope for load development, but my favorite is peep sights for all around use and hunting.
Beautiful rifle.
I like simple and classic gun
Admit it Gavin… you were attracted by the gray color…🤣
Super cool rifle
I would like to see a tactical version of this Henry rifle similar to what Chris Costa is running with his Tactical Lever Action training. I don’t care for the all dark Big Boy X model or this rifle (no threaded barrel). I will say that the Marlin 1894 SBL 44 Special / 44 Mag Lever-Action Rifle is a good looking lever action rifle.
We recently ran a 30-30 Henry X model through the paces. It has a threaded barrel. We've been loading at both the sub-sonic level and at over 2400 fps with it. Really nice "tactical" sort of lever action. Henry also makes one in 357 which would be terrific for that purpose.
Lever guns in revolver calibers are really a good often overlooked home defense option for folks that can’t get an AR style rifle for whatever reason (state laws, etc..)
@soloban81 I also don’t want to spend $1.50 a round unless it’s for hunting, and that’s where the pistol caliber rifles shine. The one exception is the 308 caliber which is very affordable.
I sure would be nice if Ruger gets the Marlin 38/357 and 44 Mag rifles back on the market. I don't have a clue why they started with an overpriced 45-70.
@@PC-vq5udGreat Point - Lots of product introductions are dominated by old school mentality. That’s what they perceive a lever action to be. Why not a 9mm lever action? Because they are limited by the way it was and not what it should be.
Can't wait till you get the henry long ranger in 6.5 creed 👍
That's a great idea!
I have the Henry Model X 45-70 been trying to get my hands on one of these All Weather PCC for better than a year. So disappointed at how hard its been to find.
looks like I am late to the party as well. fugh LOL my safe is full of AR's but this would stick out, I am wishing i got one earlier
There a henry x 30 30 for 850 is that a good deal?
Love to see this with a Skinner Peep sight.
What a nice rifle!
I started grinning as soon as I pulled it from the box. Still smile just thinking about that cool little rifle!
I have one in 45 colt it’s the same way just perfect . But the big problem is I have had the 357 and 30-30 on order for over 2 years and have got nothing 😢
try a tang sight marbels or lyman with a globe front i find it to be the most versatile for my lever guns can run small aperture for targets or take it out and its like a goast ring
Yes! I love using a good aperture sight on a rifle!
Where can you find one? Have looked for 2 years now!
Very nice out fit 👍
How about trying a New Primary Arms 3X Prism scope that would be a match made in heaven.Light and quick for close encounters.
I was going to go cheap with a 10/22. Instead of adding another ammo to the mix I think that I’ll get this exact rifle to go with my .357 revolver. Of course the ammo and rifle is more expensive. But, what a perfect combination. Just not small game.
Forgot to add in my last comment, Skinner sights are also great on lever guns…
i can see that henry is throwing money at UR
Well, they sent us one heck of a 357 to review, and honestly, it's great.
Looks sweet, I'd like to own one.
What a great and informative video..awesome
For iron sights at 25 yards you need an aiming spot of at least 2.5", 3" is better. So for iron sights at 50 yards you would need around 5" for an aiming spot.
The fun of this rifle is shooting handgun ammo through it, not some expensive Lever-specific rounds. PISTOL caliber carbine.
This Federal ammo is fine in either the handgun or the rifle. I enjoyed shooting it from Gavin's S&W revolver.
@@guyminer2384 170gr is not a standard handgun cartridge. Read OP again.
@@uclajd I was shooting 170 gr Sierras through my 357 back in the 1980's... But I'll be happy to put some 158's through this. :) How about some 180's marketed for revolvers too?
@@guyminer2384 Come on man, you know 170 is not a traditional 357 round. 110, 125, and 158 are the traditional handgun bullets. People on the Internet will argue ANYTHING.
@@uclajd 180 gr were very common among silhouette shooters.
I really want one of these
I’ll take two! One in 38/357 and one in 44sp/44mag 😉😎🇺🇸
I have Hornady .357 180 grain HP and 200 grain hard cast on my bench for 357.
Nice! Heavy bullets. Thinking of those for hunting?
@@guyminer2384 I have a CVA pistol in 357 Mag 14". Have shot both the heavies in that with ok results. I get better with 158 gr.
I want to rechamber the CVA to 357 Max. The heavies should run better at the higher velocities. I tried the 200 gr hardcast in my CVA 35 Rem rifle. They shot 4" groups at 100 yards.
The CVA Rem 35 rifle shot 200 gr Hornady Flexpoint seconds from MidwayUSA over Leverevolution into interesting groups. The first 3 shots would clover leaf. The last two shots were touching about 3 to 4 inches to the right of the first 3 shots. It was repeatable. I guess heat effect. I'm located in N Central Florida.
I do recommend a cheek riser if you add a scope
Ya, most lever action rifles aren't properly stocked for a scope.
Perfect excuse for a nice leather wrap. Lots of options out there with riser and ammo loop offerings.
Agree whole heartedly. We put an ammo carrier/cheek piece combo on a Marlin 1894 some years ago for my daughters to deer hunt. It was a very important accessory for their comfort & confidence. Helped with accuracy quite a bit. Black leather set up is a great way to go with 10-12 loops for extra rounds a "flap" over the ammo is recommended.
Look into God A Grip. They make a great cheek riser that can be applied directly to the stock
The only rifle's I own are lever action and black powder. I just got tired of all the modern technology. Plus back in 1976 while driving an airport limousine out of Philadelphia I had one last fare and it was Church Conner's the rifleman. I spent an hour and half with him, he was a terrific guy. By the way, I'm only 39 years old. ( Lol ). Henry is my favorite firearm company.
"drop a comment and we will get a convo started" every vid, and this clown will NEVER answer a question!
Would you try some 38 sp. 158 gr SWC just to see if they cycle with no problems. Good job.
Ya, we intend to shoot some 38's through this. A semi-wadcutter is a good idea.
There is nothing wrong with "texture" in a hard-chromed barrel.
The chrome is applied directly to the steel substrate, as opposed to "decorative" chrome as used to be found all over car bumpers, etc.
Under a microscope, the surface looks like a field of odd-shaped shiny mushrooms. The interesting thing about this "texture" is that it provides a much smaller surface contact and thus, less friction, as the bullet travels over it.
Contrary to popular belief, Chrome lined barrels still need proper cleaning, because the propellant gas residue DOES get down to the steel in some places. Failure to clean and lube such a barrel will cause tears before bedtime, especially if you live somewhere warm and humid.
IF the chrome in the bore is "compromised", the high-pressure and temperature propellant gases WILL start to knock a steady stream of tiny flakes of chrome away.. Banging the crown of the muzzle against rocks is also NOT recommended, chromed or otherwise, (muzzles, that is, not chromed rocks.)
.A friend has one of the Rossi Puma '92 clones in ,357 mag. Slick rifle. The "Marlinesque" layout of the Henry offers a bit more sight options. A "side-by -side" test might be interesting.
I would love to see the 130gr Federal HST 38spl out of a rifle. How many rounds fit in the tube with the shorter OAL? Will it feed well? Will it penetrate enough or expand too much at rifle velocity in gel? Will it remain subsonic and thus make a good factory subsonic expanding load for suppressed use? I know suppressor manufacturers say not to use expanding bullets through suppressors but maybe you could teach us if it can be done safely. Federal claims better consistency with less air space as well. Please test!
Sounds like a great test. We intend to shoot some different 38 and 357 handloads and factory ammo from this and the revolvers.
@@guyminer2384 I look forward to it! And I hope federal makes the 130gr HST available to handloaders.
It would be great if I could find one somewhere.
Try some 125gr bullets with a case full of h110. You'll see some silly velocities, my 18.5 inch marlin throws them very near 2200, I'm sure a 20 inch would push them to 2225 or so. Absolutely insane speeds from a handgun cartridge
I would like to see the Federal ammo tested in ballistic gel through both the revolver and the Henry. If it has decent performance in both that could make it a good choice for someone who owns both.
Planning to do just that, and some other types of 357 magnum ammo as well.
Take the Lee. 358gc slug & push it with a little bit of Lil Gun. Awesome; in my 1894!
FUDDs everywhere: AHHHHHHH, Gavin almost shot me!
We note that unlike Alec Baldwin, we handle firearms every day here at UR, and don't shoot anyone. :) Ya, I'm older, does that make me a FUDD? I guess so in your eyes. Sigh...
All weather vs Big boy X? Which one do you think is better?
I just bought the Henry 44 mag lever gun. I am wondering about the difference between the rifle load and the pistol load. I have a Smith & Wesson hunter and don’t want to put rifle ammo in it so I am thinking about loading it all for pistol. I am going to use Leigh 220 grain . Interested what you think. Also you can use in your Henry, lever revolution Hornsby bullets. Would like to see you load some in the 357 Henry.
Great looking gun; get e-mails about Henry rifles all the time; PROBLEM IS CAN’T FIND THEM NOR ACCORDING TO HENRY CAN’T ORDER. any suggestions
I prefer alittle more bang like 460sw or 357max
Very cool!
Gave this vid a thumbs up. The only off putting aspect for me is the MSRP. At $1200 it in the same ball park as a Winchester model 70.
Looking at the prices for other new lever actions... ya, they're all getting expensive.
But this one is made in America 🇺🇸
@@guyminer2384 how much in your area?
I would like to get the rifle but not at the price.
How bout comparing the X 357 to the all weather 357?
I have the exact lever action all weather from Henry.. no side gate got it in 2018. Had a squib load happen with using the Hornady leverevolution 357mag. Henry replaced it and mentioned not to use that type of ammo.. so I'm not. I've since been researching clean running ammo through my new Henry. Question I'm asking is can we use federal hammer down in 357mag 170gr jhp? Are they safe to cycle in a 20 inch barrel?
I don't want to spend a fortune for ammo with this gun. Which ammo is the most affordable to use?
Don't show Alec Baldwin this vid....
Amazing how we handle guns and live ammo every day. And nobody gets shot. Alec ought to come train with UR.
Fit it with a silencer and and then try several loads from subsonic on up. Let's see what 10 more grains (180gr) can do. Will it take 35 caliber (.358) or are you limited to 38 caliber (.357)? Of course you're going to do optics and then put the empty brass on the Frankford Arsenal's X-10 and reload.
You can load .358" diameter bullets, most cast bullets are that diameter, but you may run into overall length problems, i.e. too long to feed correctly through a lever gun.
@@r.awilliams9815 I wasn't sure how tight the bore is, which is why I asked. I built my first 'wildcat' the 357 AR Max, which is basically a 357 Remington Maximum round in a 223 basic cartridge (straight wall) and the barrel supplier asked if I wanted it to be able to take .358 bullets.
Many years ago my friend loaded some of my 180 grain Speer's for his 357 revolver. As I recall he used +P 38 Special cases to shorten the overall length and they worked. Can't remember the powder charge though?
Where is the 44mag version?!!😃
Big loop, pic rail and 5X optic... 🙂
Does this model also shoot 38special ?