believe it or not, it's actually a net positive for the overall economy because you already get tower troops in your King Level up chests. This chest is an additional chest. I don't like how this system was implemented. But it is "technically" a net positive.
The biggest problem: If you're lvl 14, when you get a princess tower troop, the conversion rate is: 1 Tower Troop = 1 Elite WC. This is the same conversion as common cards; 1 Common Card = 1 Elite WC. HOWEVER, you need about 12,000 common cards to max out a common, but you only need about 420 Tower Troop cards to max out a tower troop Therefore, even though they are 30x rarer, tower troop cards are worth the same to a maxed out player than and equal number of common cards
Maybe if it wasn't like 99% chance of having princess tower (that litteraly has no purpose on beeing in these chests) MAYBE it would be a good chest '_'
In my opinion its bad that they put the tower troop chest every few chests because thats the only way to upgrade them Edit: The image of the evo valk in the event is so cursed💀
i feel like its not net positive because it pushes back all your other chests, and no one who doesnt buy cannoneer can even use it since it has to catch up to your level and the only way to get them is the chests
I kinda get how this is literally a net positive but like still i kinda just wish that it just gave a teensy bit more cards like 10 or 20 cards wont help even with unlocking the cannonneer because the level will be too low to use either way.
Evo valk needs a health buff due to the way it pushes troops closer to it. It pushes entire masses of high dmage troops over to it, then lasts for less than a second
it's possible to get princess tower cards in the tower troops chest, that is the bad side of it, because when you level up your ing tower you get enougth tower princesses and gold to level it up too, having her as a possible drop from the chest makes even harder to f2p get cannoneers cards
I still think that the tower cards should’ve just been boosted to the king tower’s level at all time. Why make a separate tower card that you need to level up? The princess tower never needed cards to level up. They could’ve just had it so you could switch between the two while maintaining the king’s tower level.
people with similar skill usually win with a tight HP during tie breaker. and a New tower that start at a losing position (15% less hp) is pretty big brain design
@Man-sy2he ruins the game just think if both players take 1 crown and it is overtime that extra protection of increased hp of king tower doesnt matter
it may be a net positive but i still dont get why we get princess towers in there, i get that we need a common to balance it out but the princess tower card is literally useless since you already get the exact amount you need to upgrade it when you level up
i cant speak for high level play, but for mid ladder im actually finding great success with cannoneer. story time! i was stuck at 4.5k for a while, and i like to try and build my own decks instead of looking things up. it makes things more fun and rewarding when something clicks my decks at this level were kinda decent, but nothing really ever saw a major breaktrhough. i kept getting destroyed by things like mega knight, and mini tank spam. finally i made a deck i was happy with, and decided to stick with it, beginning my journey of punching at a wall with the gauntlet i made, until eventually i learned the proper technique to break said wall. it was slow going, but after being stuck a third of the way there for a while, i unlocked the cannoneer. i kinda shrugged it off at first, it was neat, but nothing special. after all it was only level 9, and my princess tower was level 10. but i looked at it some more, considered by deck and what i was loosing to, and the fact i was facing a lot of hog, knights, mega knights, e barbs, and other middle to high hp cards, and the fact the deck was well prepared for swarms, so i deciced to give it a shot. and boy did it work, after the switch i rocketed up the arena. it wasnt easy by any means, but it felt like a team effort that was paying off. i help him defend the swarms, and he helps me defend the beefy units. once we got to the 3/4's mark, things slowed down again, and we had some losses, but hard fought fight after hard fought fight we pressed on, doing things i couldve never done with the princess TL;DR, if you try to work with him, ignore the hate, understand him, and build something that synergies with him, you can take the middladder menaces off guard and blast your way to the top.
No shit, it’s an epic card. You really think you’re going to get a split amount of epic and common cards? Hell no, it’s a different rarity for a reason. Just wait till they release a legendary tower troop.
it wouldve been awesome if it didnt give me a maxed out princess in the first 14 chests I opened and gave me the card that was both not unlocked and underlevelled... would be nice...
My BIGGEST issue with the addition of this chest, is that it took the slot of my champion chest which was 1 win away in my cycle when they added it, which sent it 120 F---ING SLOTS BACK.
They just feel pointless. Like last time I checked I need 400 cards to level up my towers, and they only give me maybe 14 at a time, and I only get a tower chest like once a week. It's like I need to pay my mortgage and some guy on the street walks up and hands me two dollars, the thought is nice, but it's not gonna do anything
(no hate but I need to express my opinion on this new tower troop) I like the dagger thrower and she has unique with the bar showing how many daggers she can throw at full speed, a very OP tower troop definitely better than Princess and Cannonner. But here is one problem, the level system of tower troops. Like what is the point if you are level 15 or high level but you can't use because the level too low like 9, 10 or not maxed (it is not follow your king level), it will be quite disadvantage unless you P2W, really worth to call it *'Cash Royale'*
cannoner could get a health buff, rate of fire could be buffed by 0.1 but i think that will be very op since it easily kills tanks and interactions will be easier, maybe thats what it needs to be good.
@@v3k1tg supercell could simple add a "experimental mode" then do any type of public testing in that mode, that will be easier and faster for feedback. They could buff cannoner in many ways in that mode so players give a precise feedback
Tower Chest is terrible with the luck chances if you only get commons when your tower is already maxed 2nd Lower chance is just to get Epic The lowest chance is just to get Dagger Duchess
Leave it to clash royale to give you a chest that next to useless 75 percent of the time. Even if it’s a buff to progression and even if tower troops aren’t pay to win this system is the most unsatisfying progression system ever. Why can’t this game ever just make a step forward without a step back.
believe it or not, it's actually a net positive for the overall economy because you already get tower troops in your King Level up chests.
This chest is an additional chest.
I don't like how this system was implemented. But it is "technically" a net positive.
Hi oj
okay
Something is wrong because I always get the princess tower Troup instead of the cannoner
Trust me OJ i oppened a level up chest and it did not give me tower troops
hi
The biggest problem: If you're lvl 14, when you get a princess tower troop, the conversion rate is:
1 Tower Troop = 1 Elite WC.
This is the same conversion as common cards;
1 Common Card = 1 Elite WC.
HOWEVER, you need about 12,000 common cards to max out a common, but you only need about 420 Tower Troop cards to max out a tower troop
Therefore, even though they are 30x rarer, tower troop cards are worth the same to a maxed out player than and equal number of common cards
That is because the princess tower is a common tower troop and cannoneer is an epic. So princess tower still requires 12000 common cards
@@Stephano1 I noticed the different colors of both tower troops and wondered why that was thanks for clarifying
Why is that a problem?
There are different rarities of tower troops
I need 5000 cards to upgrade my princess tower to level 14, but this scam for a chest only gives 22 cards each 💀
Maybe if it wasn't like 99% chance of having princess tower (that litteraly has no purpose on beeing in these chests) MAYBE it would be a good chest '_'
I think the rates are like 5% cuz i got a canoneer off my 8th chest or something today.
I was saying, never got one single cannoneer from the chest and probaly won't till the season is over
Not even joking, i got 8 of these chests and all of them were cannoneer, its at level 13 rn
@@baldtighten wow, haven't got one yet and that's crazy
Gotten 10 tower chests since the update and only received cannoneer once out of the 10
Yeah good for nothing 💀
Fr
No, I don't like them
Cap I got a few cannoneers
The third tower troop is going to drop this year so hopefully it gives better game play. Hoping for something with spash tbh.
Amen
Alright now that they added tower troop chest they must add evo shard chest
I agree; make it replace the legendary chest that thing sucks ass
@@AlessandroPioltelli just remove the legendary chest, its terrible for the chest cycle
@@jackli8174 well they should replace it with something else; 1 legendary is better then none of them
there is already an evo shard chest I believe. from the kings journey after a certain level you get an evo chest every other level
@@FrozenBrawlStars I assume he meant into the chest cycle? At least that’s what I thought…
In my opinion its bad that they put the tower troop chest every few chests because thats the only way to upgrade them
Edit: The image of the evo valk in the event is so cursed💀
Real. They should at least let us obtain tower troop cards from any chest
i feel like its not net positive because it pushes back all your other chests, and no one who doesnt buy cannoneer can even use it since it has to catch up to your level and the only way to get them is the chests
But it doesn't take time to open
@@susamogus8331 But it takes one extra win
@@Avery_37 But 4 can give you a cannoneer level and it gives you excuses to win more matches for the lucky drops
@@tyjackgaming4574 You really think what you just said makes it a good thing?
Lets be honest...the tower troop chest is usless until like 6 tower troops come out, cause its 50/50 between cannoneer and princess tower
Much more chance for princess cuz its common cannoneer is epic
It's actually 75/25
@@azzix45feels like 95/5
@@Stephano1 yes, i open 5 chests and i only get the princess tower
Lol it's not 50/50, I opened 9 of them and only got the cannoneer once
15:17
OJ: Yes, Bomber connets !!!
I'm in midladder, and I keep seeing underleveled cannoneer, which is just hilarious
In low league, I keep winning with underleveled cannoneer, which is even more hilarious to me. People just don’t know how to deal with it yet.
It took me 3 days to reach 5k trophies
I saw someone with a king tower 11 and a level 9 cannoneer when it first came out
@@apersonthatlovescats bro they should make the king tower level and ability = tower troop
I kinda get how this is literally a net positive but like still i kinda just wish that it just gave a teensy bit more cards like 10 or 20 cards wont help even with unlocking the cannonneer because the level will be too low to use either way.
The chest is good in forcing you to play an extra game.
They amaze me with how many hurdles they add each update
Evo valk needs a health buff due to the way it pushes troops closer to it. It pushes entire masses of high dmage troops over to it, then lasts for less than a second
If cannoneer got witch area damage range or something , it would be perfect, because that basically compensates for the lower health and stuff
it's possible to get princess tower cards in the tower troops chest, that is the bad side of it, because when you level up your ing tower you get enougth tower princesses and gold to level it up too, having her as a possible drop from the chest makes even harder to f2p get cannoneers cards
Pro tip: evo valk when she connects to your princess tower, she activates king tower. At least from what happend to me once-
14:17 Dude what was that laugh 😂
Brooks laugh from one piece💀
I still think that the tower cards should’ve just been boosted to the king tower’s level at all time. Why make a separate tower card that you need to level up? The princess tower never needed cards to level up. They could’ve just had it so you could switch between the two while maintaining the king’s tower level.
people with similar skill usually win with a tight HP during tie breaker. and a New tower that start at a losing position (15% less hp) is pretty big brain design
the realest comment ngl
Yeah they should implement HP with percentage for tie breaker calculation
@Man-sy2he ruins the game just think if both players take 1 crown and it is overtime that extra protection of increased hp of king tower doesnt matter
It’s an ok chest but they should add more tower cards then it would be better
They did tease one right? I wonder if that will come next season or not.
It be cool if they added like a wizard tower troop that can do area damage
13:13 I love that OJ is still trying to justify the Evo ice spirit
14:02 huh 😳
it may be a net positive but i still dont get why we get princess towers in there, i get that we need a common to balance it out but the princess tower card is literally useless since you already get the exact amount you need to upgrade it when you level up
This, it just makes no sense
canoneer is pay to quit
pov supercell finding out tower troops are the most unnecessary thing to ever exist
i cant speak for high level play, but for mid ladder im actually finding great success with cannoneer. story time!
i was stuck at 4.5k for a while, and i like to try and build my own decks instead of looking things up. it makes things more fun and rewarding when something clicks
my decks at this level were kinda decent, but nothing really ever saw a major breaktrhough. i kept getting destroyed by things like mega knight, and mini tank spam.
finally i made a deck i was happy with, and decided to stick with it, beginning my journey of punching at a wall with the gauntlet i made, until eventually i learned the proper technique to break said wall.
it was slow going, but after being stuck a third of the way there for a while, i unlocked the cannoneer. i kinda shrugged it off at first, it was neat, but nothing special. after all it was only level 9, and my princess tower was level 10.
but i looked at it some more, considered by deck and what i was loosing to, and the fact i was facing a lot of hog, knights, mega knights, e barbs, and other middle to high hp cards, and the fact the deck was well prepared for swarms, so i deciced to give it a shot.
and boy did it work, after the switch i rocketed up the arena. it wasnt easy by any means, but it felt like a team effort that was paying off. i help him defend the swarms, and he helps me defend the beefy units. once we got to the 3/4's mark, things slowed down again, and we had some losses, but hard fought fight after hard fought fight we pressed on, doing things i couldve never done with the princess
TL;DR, if you try to work with him, ignore the hate, understand him, and build something that synergies with him, you can take the middladder menaces off guard and blast your way to the top.
I got two of them and I pulled 15 princess Towers.
Every 10 chests I basically don’t get a chest. Such a great help for progression
$70 just to max it out
Proof it’s play to pay
Play to pay☠
I keep getting Princess Tower cards instead of the required canon
Same here and it looks like everyone in this comment section is facing the same issue
No shit, it’s an epic card. You really think you’re going to get a split amount of epic and common cards? Hell no, it’s a different rarity for a reason. Just wait till they release a legendary tower troop.
it wouldve been awesome if it didnt give me a maxed out princess in the first 14 chests I opened and gave me the card that was both not unlocked and underlevelled... would be nice...
i opened 15 tower troop chests and on my 2nd one i got canoneer and my 15th one was canoneer when my bro opened 7 and got 5 canoneers 😭
Lesson learned, always watch OJ’s video for advice
Bro Supercell needs to hire OJ as Community Manager pronto lol
2:10 they did give you guys little prince to level 14, same as the cannoneer offer in the shop
It should be a guaranteed cannoneer. Because getting princess is useless. It's only like a 25% change of getting a cannoneer
I think it's a lot less than that. I've gone through at least 7 chests and not 1 cannoneer drop.
Bro is being held at gunpoint💀
i love how the 3rd guy oj went against was BMing and lost😂
3:30🤣🤣🤣🤣
14:18 grandma laugh
My BIGGEST issue with the addition of this chest, is that it took the slot of my champion chest which was 1 win away in my cycle when they added it, which sent it 120 F---ING SLOTS BACK.
this is so real omg
Is it just me or did I hear OJ say the cannoneer has faster attack speed😂😂😂 ( around 4 min to 4:30 )
They just feel pointless. Like last time I checked I need 400 cards to level up my towers, and they only give me maybe 14 at a time, and I only get a tower chest like once a week. It's like I need to pay my mortgage and some guy on the street walks up and hands me two dollars, the thought is nice, but it's not gonna do anything
It sucks. I keep getting princess tower cards which is already maxed out.
You know a company is greedy when any net positive to the economy is considered a surprise, no matter how small
I think canoneer isn't unreliable we're just habituated completely with princess tower
15:19 “bomber connects” when the skeleton army are in the tower dealing massive amount of damage 💀💀
7:56 "going in with magic archer lets go" literaly no shots hits the tower
4:39 Two negatives makes a positive... MathJ being humble again
Cannoneer is good but it needs to be protected by a swarm killer like Mother Witch.
Bro that laugh with that emote was crazy💀14:25
It's still too hard to rank towers in this way, too few cards in it compared to how slow it is to get them if you don't play like a maniac
At the end in his wrapping up he ironically loses focus which says it all.
I feel like they should give more wildcards since magic item doesnt even work on it for some reasom
"cannonneer has a faster attack speed"
Dude I’m telling you evo valk just needs either a health boost or reduce damage when she attacks and she’ll actually be good
I opened 5-6 tower troop chests, but haven't unlocked cannoneer. Got the level 15 princess tower though.
That's better
Cannoner looks like me after eating tacobell
14:17 dude sound like when the washing machine break down
did the chest cycle increased in size or those chests replaced other chests?
was here when it said "Tower Chest is actually good"
So good that everyone i know has still 0 cannoneers (Italy being unclucky again)
(no hate but I need to express my opinion on this new tower troop)
I like the dagger thrower and she has unique with the bar showing how many daggers she can throw at full speed, a very OP tower troop definitely better than Princess and Cannonner. But here is one problem, the level system of tower troops. Like what is the point if you are level 15 or high level but you can't use because the level too low like 9, 10 or not maxed (it is not follow your king level), it will be quite disadvantage unless you P2W, really worth to call it *'Cash Royale'*
Title: "the Tower Chest is actually not bad?"
Actual title: "Cannoneer is actually bad?"
W OJG 4:07
Ya it gives princess more coz it's max gives many star points like 15 20
I opened 10 of these still no cannoneer ☠️
whaaat i got it first try i thought it was normal
14:18 joker ahh
When he said I’m awesome I immediately thought about buzz
Got a clash royal ad that had oj on a oj video
@orangejuice Positivly NOT WORTH IT
Most of the time you just get about 10-20 princess tower cards, which is equal to 10-20 elite wildcards. In my opinion pretty bad.
Nah, they just added more P2W progression 💀
All 4 of my chest slots always full, i usually dont get that chest to open.
cannoner could get a health buff, rate of fire could be buffed by 0.1 but i think that will be very op since it easily kills tanks and interactions will be easier, maybe thats what it needs to be good.
I think both those buffs would make it kinda op but it definitely needs one of them
@@v3k1tg supercell could simple add a "experimental mode" then do any type of public testing in that mode, that will be easier and faster for feedback. They could buff cannoner in many ways in that mode so players give a precise feedback
@@tPlayerioT that would be really cool actually so the community can test out upcoming balance changes and give feedback!
@@v3k1tg yep! more games need that as feature
@@v3k1tg i just made that idea as a post in their reddit
Tower Chest is terrible with the luck chances if you only get commons when your tower is already maxed
2nd Lower chance is just to get Epic
The lowest chance is just to get Dagger Duchess
OJ hating the cannoneer. Meanwhile Morton…
Leave it to clash royale to give you a chest that next to useless 75 percent of the time. Even if it’s a buff to progression and even if tower troops aren’t pay to win this system is the most unsatisfying progression system ever. Why can’t this game ever just make a step forward without a step back.
I'm just waiting for the 3rd tower troop that is coming, it's probably gonna be an X-bow like fire rate and low damage
Or it’ll be a wizard
I think it'll be a knife thrower(fast but weak) cause they teased it at the end of the cannoneer trailer
@@roycerambo6339maybe it can pierce? Idk , just guessing.
Watch this moment 14:18 at 2x speed,that's so funny 💀
15:45
- Talks about inflation and giving Supercell +1 star
*Camera unfocuses on OrangeJuice and blurs face.*
I maxed out archer towers… at lvl 13. Before I got cannoneer to lvl 8
Bruh..!!!Opened at least 5-6 Tower troop chests and zero sign of Cannoneer... Pure joy and fun... 🙄
4:05 SpeachJ hello again
Its still a huge L for new players to progress without paying
I hope is fire 🎉😊 0:38
Agreed bro fr fr 😊
Yeah I love getting princess towers when they are max 14
I play lavaloon, but I still feel like cannoneer is very easy to beat even though it should counter me
They are kinda good. I got lvl 13 cannoneer without money with the chests
After level 14 golden chest should take 3H instead of 8H
I've already opened 10 of these chests AND I ONLY GOT THE NEW TOWER ONCE
i’ve opened about 9 of them so far and i’ve only gotten princess towers i can’t even unlock the new tower definitely not good
I've opened 5 chests and still no sight of the Cannoneer
Was there a balance change I missed? My level 11 arrows don’t destroy level 11 guards shields
According to my friend he had a royal wild chest in the next 2 chest and the tower troop chest overwrite it
i've opened more than 10 tower chests.... still no canonneer
the tower chest is amazing i unlocked cannoneer and got it level 11 with them lmao
bro casually hit 5 million star points
me watching oj laugh at 1.5x at 14:25