The guitar player mentioned in the part sung by the original singer IS the composer and producer of this song Tetsuro Oda instead of a band member Also being a Virtuoso helped shaping the 90’s pop music scene across Asia, writing hits after hits No wonder he’s keen with his tone and simply has a impeccable taste of music
For me, the song is liked a voice yelling from the heart. Especially when you were someone a first picked best player in somewhere but you ran a wrong way in your career begining. Something never comes back but you finally realise you can still fight for your every recent second. The above, is just some scenarios from that Slam Dunk😢
I think in general chinese audience prefer the artist to really look like they are really into it, and feeling the song and all. But at the same time it doesn't mean they need to look emotional, but they are very attuned to the singers body language, it has to match the song, even if it's not your song you have to look earnest. And that why ZHouShen is so loved, he does that, well according to the interviews whether its our ear not we'd never really know what someone think, but he says he always tries to really be into it and feel the song when he performs, and also just watching him offs stage in shows he comes off as someone who is sincere. And I find it interesting the way you react to Japanese songs especially the ones that are form anime's and such. I guess it makes a lot of difference if you grew up watching them. As someone who doesn't sing, and maybe even those who sings like you, the sound they make when they sing, even if it's not "natural" in that it's a character voice doesn't really matter. It's again the sincerity of trying to be earnest and believable. I mean if you watch animations, all the voices are acting, and they even literally make up character voice that is far from their talking voice, but it's still moving. You don't get hung up over it not being the actor's speaking voice and just think the whole thing is fake and you can't really immerse yourself in the story. I mean animation as a whole is fake, it's not even live action with real people and emotion, they even have aliens and animals talking but it doesn't stop people from relating to it and being touched by it. Whether the sound is nasal, or whatever, as long as it's believable it's what matters, the emotion just has to get through to the audience.
40:22 this is how i feel too. The first time i heard the new gen WAND lead singer, I felt that he is able to sing as well as the how the first gen lead singer sing at his prime, but some how it still feel something is lacking and I still prefer the first gen lead singer.
It’s too bad there was no comparison with the original 90s version, when Sho Uesugi’s vocal was in his 20s soaring prime. By this concert he was already 50. Also, little besides the point but the guitarist in the concert is the actual writer of the song, Tetsuro Oda, while Uesugi wrote the lyrics.
感謝老師昨天來台灣跟我們一起跨年🎉
感謝英國皇家天文台將標準時間訂在倫敦,讓老師飛來台灣可以提早跨年,代替台灣人盡地主之誼。
@@黃信彰-m9z感谢传统的繁体中文让你的意思传播出去
「無論什麼事,得之於人者太多,出之於己者太少。因為需要感謝的人太多了,就感謝天罷。無論什麼事,不是需要先人的遺愛與遺產,即是需要眾人的支持與合作,還要等候機會的到來。越是真正做過一點事,越是感覺到自己貢獻的渺小。」
「世界が终るまでは」這首歌是亞洲文化圈一個很重要的歌,很開心看見兩位老師專業的評論名曲,我也很喜歡兩位老師的評論,對我而言 WANDS 現任主唱上原大史肯定是唱得比較好的,因為他是視覺系樂團出身,所以唱歌技巧更華麗(而且上原大史還有翻唱 LiSA 的紅蓮華,非常有氣勢,可以聽聽看!)但是他是模仿原唱上杉昇的風格、再試圖去修正的更有技巧,仍無法撼動當年第一次聽見這一首歌的感動。
上杉昇的面罩化唱腔其實是 1990 年代的日式搖滾流行風格,你可以去聽當年很多日本樂團主唱都會使用這種風格唱歌,他的確可以衝出來更銳利的高音,雖然不是最完美的(感覺很刻意壓扁嗓音),但是他代表 1990 年代的集體記憶,尤其配合灌籃高手的片尾曲動畫一起看特別有感觸。
至於其他中國人翻唱的...去修改歌詞我就覺得不OK了,唱日文才原汁原味,改成中文就怪裡怪氣的。
單純東西方審美的差異,日式搖滾本來就是自成一格啊
我灌籃高手迷,聽這首完全是聽一個情懷❤
每次听到上衫升唱世界が终るまでは都会鸡皮疙瘩
只有原唱上衫升的日文版能唱出那种年少不畏惧的潇洒。他的声音就有这种feel,能感觉到一股很强的信念,追逐着梦想。听了很爽😊。
對,有一種年少輕狂的狂野,聽感上差這一點聽起來就像不同首歌....
@@郭書銘-q7r同意!! 其他歌手就是少了原唱这种少年清狂的狂野带来的感动。
两个版本都喜欢,但现在更喜欢みこと様的这个版本
畢竟這個MV是他已經年長了,聲線有所變化,但仍感動著每個人,那時唱這首歌時是年輕的時候,現在能聽到他的live,也能感覺很熱血,尤其那個旋律一上來就欲罷不能。
额。。。。不是不是,wands换了主唱的。他是第五代了,换到让我们这些老粉都服,唱到心眼里的就他了,みこと様,爱爱爱!
沒辦法,這首歌太經典,「只能模仿不能超越」的存在,
包括那個結他,所以不管楊坤版本改得多利害、張杰唱功多了得,沒了那些要素就是不對味。
以唱功出發的話上杉昇確實不會是最好,但他就是原唱,
就像和田光司 晚期唱的Butter-Fly,大家都知道不如最初,但也只有原唱能唱出那份感動。
中文版只有陈楚生版的最有感觉,可惜只唱了两句
真的!認同🙂
這首只有原唱才能唱出味道!這首充滿回憶,音樂一下去就是會讓人想哭
現在的wands主唱上原大史很強!身兼兩團還兼作曲作詞
超愛真天地😂
大愛原唱聽到哭. 很喜歡這集的討論~
I really liked the original singer, doubly respect the fact he sounded so good even past his prime.
Only the original singer moved me in this song
外国老师认为的面罩化,我认为是一种日式独特的唱腔。这首歌就是要有一种热血少年一开始不够胆放开自己甚至有点憋屈憋着一股气,到后面大胆放开逐梦的感觉。
This song keeps repeating in my brain.
I love the new guest🤟🤟🤟
我可太喜欢这个新嘉宾了!能看到太多的不同了😂😂😂
只有原唱會永遠留在人們的心中
上原的版本我覺得live唱的更好,很喜歡他自己寫的歌,在真天地開闢集團的歌更有爆發力
哈哈哈哈,现场版サビ部分,瞬间化身みこと様
最後一段的吉他手織田哲郎是這首歌曲的做曲者,90有很多動漫歌曲都出自他手。
每次聽這歌都淚流滿面
這首是神曲:D
超喜欢这首歌,因为三井寿❤
喜歡灌籃高手的絕對會認為這是一首神級歌,原唱還是最有動漫感的,唱腔就很適合動漫,而且最有情感,其他人感覺就是表演,但原唱就是感覺在用心唱,感受的到人味
The guitar player mentioned in the part sung by the original singer
IS the composer and producer of this song Tetsuro Oda instead of a band member
Also being a Virtuoso helped shaping the 90’s pop music scene across Asia, writing hits after hits
No wonder he’s keen with his tone
and simply has a impeccable taste of music
在后面挥手的小孩,hi,你好呀😊新年快乐
不得不說2012的上杉昇已經很久沒唱這首,跟年輕時唱這首所散發的感覺有點不太一樣,連體型都是,哈
i got goosebumps as well everytime i heard WANDS singing this song!
幸好有給老師聽原唱
well 片尾的歌 好聽!!
這首歌是很多大叔的青春!
但是為什麼不使用上杉年輕時的版本?
可能是找不到現場版本?
The song you are looking for would be: Leave the Light On for Me by Belinda Carlisle. Same tune.
個人是很喜歡這首歌,不過不得不承認,這或許承載了我們年輕時的情感,相比於其他大師級的歌曲,它本質可能其實沒那麼好
不過歌曲本來就是這樣,它會承載每個人不同的感情心緒,不同的歌在不同的人聽來,就有不同的感覺
JJ 2月份要在北美開演唱會,希望老師可以當嘉賓❤
For me, the song is liked a voice yelling from the heart. Especially when you were someone a first picked best player in somewhere but you ran a wrong way in your career begining. Something never comes back but you finally realise you can still fight for your every recent second.
The above, is just some scenarios from that Slam Dunk😢
The original singer was kinda old in the 2012 concert already, his prime era sounds so much better than that tho.
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Wands - 世界が終わるまでは...(1994)
I think in general chinese audience prefer the artist to really look like they are really into it, and feeling the song and all. But at the same time it doesn't mean they need to look emotional, but they are very attuned to the singers body language, it has to match the song, even if it's not your song you have to look earnest. And that why ZHouShen is so loved, he does that, well according to the interviews whether its our ear not we'd never really know what someone think, but he says he always tries to really be into it and feel the song when he performs, and also just watching him offs stage in shows he comes off as someone who is sincere.
And I find it interesting the way you react to Japanese songs especially the ones that are form anime's and such. I guess it makes a lot of difference if you grew up watching them. As someone who doesn't sing, and maybe even those who sings like you, the sound they make when they sing, even if it's not "natural" in that it's a character voice doesn't really matter. It's again the sincerity of trying to be earnest and believable. I mean if you watch animations, all the voices are acting, and they even literally make up character voice that is far from their talking voice, but it's still moving. You don't get hung up over it not being the actor's speaking voice and just think the whole thing is fake and you can't really immerse yourself in the story. I mean animation as a whole is fake, it's not even live action with real people and emotion, they even have aliens and animals talking but it doesn't stop people from relating to it and being touched by it. Whether the sound is nasal, or whatever, as long as it's believable it's what matters, the emotion just has to get through to the audience.
Belinda Carlisle's "Leave a Light on" chorus might be what you're recalling ;-)
omg YES!! I was wondering why the heck it sounded so familiar!
原唱超好聽🎉
不管谁唱这首歌,原唱一起鸡皮疙瘩就起来了,感觉还是情怀和氛围吧!这个歌没有人可以超越他得版本
這還不是上昇杉的全盛時期 畢竟已經快30年了 這首歌之所以讓人有那麼多共鳴主要是當時搭配的場景 非常經典的一首歌
我嚴重懷疑這集就是凱凱特喜歡這首歌想拿出來給他們聽XDD
恭喜杰凱成功推坑老師一首,36:10大合唱真的蠻好笑的
上杉昇的部分應該讓他們聽年輕時期的😂哪才是當年這首歌真實的感動
這個上杉昇的版本已經是他後來唱得比較棒的了,他的聲音隨年紀已經變很多了
這首歌就像紀錄了我的青春一樣,每一次聽到都會很感慨,會記起三井跟安西教練說:「我很想打籃球」
這首歌是我最喜歡的日文歌之一,是原唱年輕時超火紅歌曲,你們找的版本是,原唱年紀已經大唱年輕時的歌,所以跟原唱年輕時唱的聲音會有落差😌年輕時的聲音會比較優🙂
簽到影片下方給你們點個讚👍
遇廣告看完看滿🈵
同意
可能年龄关系或者啥,应该放他年轻时演唱会那场,那个穿着格子衫带着头巾,一个脚踩在灯上,汗洒舞台的场景!无论怎样,只有上杉升才能代表这首歌,只有他能让我回到那个年代,无论后来人怎么模仿,都没有那种少年流汗感
每次看到日本歌都好想要清老師聽看看Toshi唱的歌😊
我的天!!!竟然是二皇子
一聽這首歌就想到櫻木花道。。在球場揮灑著汗水的青春
I got goosebumps He’s a good performer
男女看的點不一樣,我好愛這樣的講評🤗
36:49 is it Open Arms ?
No wonder I felt Open Arms feels so familiar when I first heard the song many years after it came out. Now I know. 😂
先不管唱得如何,前奏一响,思绪就会飘回那年的夏天,汗流浃背,青春的味道🏀
還是喜歡原始版本,原唱的歌聲!更狂野一點,比較沒這麼秀氣....但wands已經是演唱這首的新生代歌手裡面的翹楚了~~翻成中文完全沒有這個味道,所以張杰就不用說了,更別提楊坤 ~~
每次聽楊坤唱歌都像在聽太監淫叫,他唱自己寫的歌就好了,不要唱別人的歌,特別是把日本歌翻成中文最噁心~
36:22 OK, I like the song now 😂
日本搖滾發展也是很有趣
要談到Deep~~~ 七龍珠 cha la head cha la 必須拿出來聊🤣
X JAPAN 也絕對是那個年代西方搖滾在日本盛綻的表現🥰
真的, 希望可以評一下X Japan
沒看過動漫最愛第一首有氣勢
「世界が终るまでは」這首歌就是最後一組表演者的共同創作
吉它手「織田哲郎」是原作曲者,主唱「上杉昇」就是原作詞者
所以沒人能夠比他們更能了解及演繹出,這首歌當初創作時想要呈現的意境
中國版的根本是來搞笑...
橘老師可以點評張韶涵嗎?那種自帶電音的嗓子,很想看看老師怎麼說😂❤🎉
謝謝老師陪台灣跨年,愛妳❤❤❤
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貼一下上杉昇在30年前現場演唱的版本
也很讚
巔峰時期的聲音真的很鬼
@@steakwang6780 但現場唱完全首還是很辛苦!
或者因為這原因加上年紀肌肉彈性的問題,更改了唱法
想看老師評L'Arc~en~Ciel
我不專業看法是,他老了,就像前幾年的陶喆一樣,當二十年後再唱著招牌曲時需要一個省力的唱法,得靠這樣才能保持音準,這還是2012年的他,再過幾年後去中國節目上唱的時候就更不復以往了
😊这首歌我最喜欢东尼大木的版本
每次聽到這首歌,就會想抱著籃球去球場投球
其實這首歌的原版,是有些時候我能聽得落淚的歌,當然這很可能和漫畫和動畫的故事有關,我聽到這首歌時總想堅持,奮力都最後,我是完全被感染的。其實東西方,不同民族,甚至同民族但不同地區間,都有文化差異,同一樣的語言,甚至事物,在不同文化語境,都能得到不一樣的演繹。搖滾樂來自於西方,亞洲地區是學習了,吸收了,又演變了成為自己的演繹方法。因為文化和藝術本來就有融入和承先啓後的特性。為什麼日本的搖滾樂會自成一格就必先了解他的音樂歷史,實際在中國,香港都是一樣的,歷史遺下的文化領同樣的搖滾,但有不同的風格(包括在作曲和演唱上)。如果想了解日本搖滾,其實就要了解他們演歌怎轉變成流行樂和各種音樂,動漫的影響 (例如動漫中的熱血音樂),生活文化中的民族性(例如含蓄,拼搏又時而張狂的性格)。藝術源於文化和生活,各種因素相加才會出現最終的成果。也正正因為元素不同做成的差異化,藝術和音樂才那麼美麗。
みこと様!!!!!!超喜欢的😍😍😍
哈哈哈哈,没露脸的小哥哥,瞬间放出了Gacktさん的气势来
个人觉得,用欧美式口型张开的方式唱日语,不好听,没那个味,跟语言本身的发声有关。
其實希望她能react中島美嘉的我曾經也想一了百了,那首歌,真的無敵
两位老师在评,让节目更好看。
這首歌是傳說級的存在故事 真的是其他人無論怎麼翻唱 不管技巧或者音色如何高超,原唱版本依舊是最高 是第一,
但上山昇老師的聲音也還是有因為外在因素而改變了唱腔,所以在這首歌當初電影版時重出了一個版本
原版的聲音不是這樣 稍微粗曠低沉了些 但無論是哪一個版本 還是上山昇最高!
個人比較喜歡上杉昇年輕時的聲線及唱腔,推薦老師聽聽原版
40:22 this is how i feel too. The first time i heard the new gen WAND lead singer, I felt that he is able to sing as well as the how the first gen lead singer sing at his prime, but some how it still feel something is lacking and I still prefer the first gen lead singer.
可能亞洲人與主持的感情感受點真的很不同,尤其對原唱的評論,只用所謂技巧發聲概括,簡單來說就是主持不能與之共情,除非這歌手全用了她認為對的技巧及發聲方法,到36:15已是嘲諷了
It’s too bad there was no comparison with the original 90s version, when Sho Uesugi’s vocal was in his 20s soaring prime. By this concert he was already 50. Also, little besides the point but the guitarist in the concert is the actual writer of the song, Tetsuro Oda, while Uesugi wrote the lyrics.
New guest!
老師終於有同伴了😆期待一下會不會聽一下JAMproject
11:20 老师说小孩喜欢听刚好后面有个小孩出现了😂
文化不同 年代情結
種種因素影響導致喜好問題
不過從商業角度上來看
在歌曲(產品)中
加入更多容易被接受的元素(技巧)是很正常
雖然明白老師經營這頻道的概念
不過從老粉角度來說
都已經這麼多年
面對其他文化風格
仍然是第一時間單純以自己喜好去評論歌手技巧
而沒有在其中添加說明
某些技巧在演譯上有什麼缺點
從而避免某些不解者的負評😊
在經營者來說好像沒什麼進步
片尾这首很好听啊
为什么没有陈楚生那一版?
日式搖滾就是要顫得這麼深才有味道,尤其是西川貴教跟Gackt這種的
這首歌一定從80年代當紅的Star Ship唱的nothing’s gonna stop us now得到相當多的靈感
should show the original singer's young video clip to the teacher
希望可以給老師聽"優里 - ビリミリオン / THE FIRST TAKE"
They did the original singer of Wands dirty by using the performance that is past his prime.
劉端端的聲音不錯,清亮的音色在前,雖然沒有像日式唱腔把清亮的聲音唱得那麼集中,但聽覺和聲帶負擔上是較好的
這位老師太過於堅持己見,例如鼻音,尾句的抖音深淺。我認為這點未必能讓他成為個好老師,就像評論美食一樣,太過於堅持自己的喜好,而未能真正給出正確評論。
每個人都會有自己的喜好,舉個極端點的例子,也不是所有美食家都敢吃鴨仔蛋,還要說好吃是吧?
@guayihchang 同意,但很明顯這頻道的內容並不適用極端的例子.
鴨仔蛋我敢肯定是小眾,深淺這樣的的抖音,你沒辦法說他小眾.
@@bear003200 其實我蠻好奇這個頻道怎麼都不做日本演歌的react,畢竟演歌歌手現在在日本都還是能上紅白,很想知道老師對這類還必須要用大抖音的歌曲種類的想法
鴨仔蛋對你來說是小眾,對東南亞人又不是。她現在是西方人評東方歌,鴨仔蛋你想像成其他地區的美食家評東南亞食物很難?更何況,大家喜歡看老師評論歌曲,難道不是因為文化的衝突?你要求一個人判斷歌曲好壞不能堅持自己的喜好,那你怎麼不直接把音源丟給 JOYSOUND 去評分,得到冷冰冰的分數就好?
@@黃信彰-m9z 想急著掃地也不是這樣,你是哪里沒看懂別人的留言,用鴨仔蛋比喻本來就太極端,抖音深淺這種唱歌的方式本來就不適合用這個比喻,先不說這個,你說文化衝突我是看不到啦。老師也承認過他這樣個人喜好會被人噴,我只是其中之一,何況藏鏡人也常常虧老師,明擺著的事情,你那麼急幹嘛?
希望老師可以講解一下費玉清
wow feels so Digimon~ sign him up please~
第三個我完全不行
快轉過去
敲碗一個動力火車,介紹給老師
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沒看過灌籃高手的人是沒辦法理解這首的含金量
没在青葱岁月看过灌篮高手是不明白这种情绪。
@@威威-b3h 认同,像我没看过的,就只是觉得还蛮不错听的。但如果进击的巨人音乐一响,就感觉到那种澎湃
我本來就是初代wands歌迷,對我來說這首就是他們紅了之後唱了的其中一首名曲這樣...但也已經是他們最巔峰過後的作品了
後面玻璃門有點太重,弟弟拉不開😄
想看spyair 的some like hot,要舊主唱的
張杰好讚☺️
大大 想看 歌手伍佰樹枝孤鳥 謝謝
希望多請其他人,感覺橘子老師更敢講
請問老師 有機會可以評Butter-Fly嗎
這首也是經典!!!
聲樂老師有聽過張雨生的歌嗎?
Kyle Mckearney is great singer¬ Final W
只有原唱有青春的郁闷,希望,味道。。。。
Please react to JJ lin, has duet with David Tao and some other artists in recent concerts. Thank you
30:15 吉他手可是織田哲郎啊❤
對,就是作曲者,當然彈得好,哈哈!