No glasses required - 360 degree view of Voxon Photonics 3D Volumetric Display
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2022
- When you create a truly 3D display that can be viewed from any direction, it becomes necessary to film it in a way that accurately conveys its unique capabilities to an audience whose primary viewing platform is 2D video.
The best method we thought of was to use a 5-axis robot arm with tracking sensors located in the head unit that interfaced to the Voxon Photonics VX1s runtime engine which would allow scene-specific zooms and flawless 360-degree tracking.
That would have been very costly, however, so instead, we hung our tripod on a rubber cord from the ceiling and wound it up like a rubber band..
For more information please email contact@voxon.co or visit www.voxon.co
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Those 3D maps in military thrillers are one step closer to reality.
They probably already have those
The transparent displays from Avatar and Alien and every other future movie are already being used. Holograms are still years behind though so these are the next best thing.
@@TheTeehee11111yes it already exists ,,arctron" makes a 3D projection on a terrain model which then can be used to simulate all kinds of stuff. It's used for example for urban desing
bro thinks he lives in 1998
@@TheTeehee11111Nah bro, if you join the military you're getting your briefing on a white board with a PowerPoint presentation. Sorry to break it to ya. 😂
5 years from now the youtube algorithm will make this go viral
youtube said 3 weeks instead
im here for it !
One year later and it's in my feed
I'm thinking either 6 months to distract people from the election fraud in USA
Or 2 years later when the CIA does some shady stuff...it'll distract people to look at pretty lights
5 Years from now, Apple can steal the tech and call it revolutionary
Wow, somebody finally made it possible. Nearly 50 years ago as a young aero eng I worked on a similar concept for air traffic control. Alas I could not figure out how to do it because the technology I needed was not available. Glad to see it now exists!
They are not what you're thinking it is. Open air 3d models like in the movies is not possible because light needs a medium to bounce off. You need smoke or a screen to do that.
Even the device in the video vibrates within various planes at a high speed giving you an illusion that the display is hanging in the air. It's a high tech version of that toy fan that shows images in 3d.
A movie like 3d volumetric display is impossible because of how Physics works. Light photons need a medium to bounce off mid way to your eyes and cannot rest in open space. 3d Glasses are the only way to achieve such an illusion.
@@mathurp6889 never say impossible
@@mathurp6889Not possible in the traditional sense. There are already workarounds being developed.
@@mathurp6889 photons do not need a medium to travel... neither can they "rest"
@@lilium-orchid Ahh thanks for the correction. I wrote it incorrectly. I meant that they need a medium to reflect from towards your eyes. They cannot rest in the open space and reflect off nothing. Which is why open air 3d models are not possible without a smoke screen. Although a company is trying to do that by using lasers to create plasma out of air and give off this effect.
Imagine how sick something like this would be for gaming. Like a dungeon crawler where you have to look through the three dimensional space to find certain elements
Just think instead of spending people's taxes on defense 😢.
govt. Supportd these kinds of things and provide money for innovation.
it's called camera rotation and its been a thing in games for a long time
This is even more stupid than "VR" and "flying cars"...
go back to the 90s and visit an arcade. these "holographic" glass+mirror based 3d displays were shit back then, theyre still shit now.
Imagine if people would stop falling for VR glasses and "holograms". Shit has been around for decades and it will always suck because its an old technology. Improve it and maybe
I makes me realize how unique the imagination is and the role of science fiction writers. Because we can imagine it, it becomes possible. The science fiction writer points out a target somewhere out in the unseeable distance. And the human imagination charts a course to get there. Miraculous... how wonderful...
Greatly Said My man.
I really love this statement. You really put into words my emotions seeing this kind of stuff😂❤
Man I saw this comment the other day, and it has been making a fair bit of sense since then. Maybe that's just what makes art valuable in general. It reminds me of the quote "if you can dream it, you can do it," and maybe that's what art is for: dreaming it. I think you just made art make more sense for me xD
Now it's all about how economical the resolution and the amount of colors the voxels can contain for mass production..
In order to make a volumetric image, we need to trade color depth for frame per second. We project slices of the scene at around 4000 images per second. So in the case of the VX1, that is around 500,000,000 pixels per second. You can see some colors where we are using dithering to approximate a full-color palette. If you watch our videos of our helical prototype, you will see the benefits of using 3 projectors.
@@VoxonPhotonics Godspeed.
Ahhhh! Still, in future you could probably just use wider data paths to send the extra colour bits down, right? It wouldn't have to be slower if you make it wider. Is this a projector and a reciprocating rectangular screen? Or is the problem that you can only send the projector so much data, and you don't manufacture those yourself?
Currently it does have the disadvantage of looking... "a bit 1990s" with the graphics. Is that to do with having to process so many pixels, that you have to render fewer polygons?
@@greenaum I honestly prefer the "future retro" aesthetic.... In my opinion this is PERFECT!
so what your saying is it isnt cost effective at all, and has drawbacks @@VoxonPhotonics
Something like this could bring back Gaming Arcades!
Probably cost more than a quarter to play, though...
Maybe an arm and a leg and your first born and your Tesla
This technology needs to be used to play a children's card game!
Hope I can make it to the day seeing my children summon dragon and magician in backyard :))
*dark magician noises*
Card wars from adventure time will be a reality.
this but unironically
Devs won't even support unique animations and objects on existing tech (looking at you, WotC)
This is so cool! This will add a whole new dimension of information to all kinds of things! The anatomy application and medical imaging seem particularly cool. You could look at medical images with a better sense than 2D projections.
I worked in medical imaging and this does not make much sense. What actually does make sense and my former company actually delivers is an AR mode for your Smartphone / Tablet where you can see into the patient with his DICOM volumes being rendered throught AR glasses. This is especially helpful when you have to hit a certain spot with least invasive techiques.
A dedicated holographic display would not make much sense because 1) the doc already can view the DICOM data as 3D volumes on a regular screen with precise (measurement) tools and 2) it would have no benefits over this compared to the AR approach.
Where i do see the real future is to use AR glasses that have stereoscopic displays, so that you can have "real" 3D being layered on top of the real life scene.
@@Donnirononon Yeah absolutely. I've worked on a VR application for viewing DICOMs with AI-processed segmentation layers before which had a lot of potential but was limited in that it couldn't be used during the surgery like an AR overlay could.
The tricky part is not just making it 'good enough' but passing a whole slew of medical certification requirements as well for various risk assessments.
@@DonnironononFor a patient this would be an easy way to explain a condition, so that it might be easier to understand. It wouldn't even have to be a visual of the patients body, just a visual tool to teach people about their own conditions
@@XiadaniLicarayen - You can see it just as easy on a normal screen.
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
I want to see Adventure Time's Card Wars on this display, since it's essentially identical. It'd be a phenomenal way to play card games that summon things. Yu-gi-oh is another great example that would look amazing.
Yes
that would be so sick. i’d buy in a heartbeat
I was thinking Yu-gi-oh too!!!
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
The problem is making this widely available so the market can support the effort. If this is a niche toy, it'll never happen.
MTG Arena gave up pretty quick on making cool card animations after a very short stint, and they didn't even need to worry about reading a physical card and displaying a truly 3d model.
Seems we are finally getting close to the realm of Holograms.
holograms are suspended in air and those are still archaic compared to volumentric displays
Holograms are technically 3d images when viewed from different angles, but on a 2d plane. If you have ever seen the book marks that change, those are more similar to what is technically a hologram. What scifi movie holograms are would be volumetric displays, just projected on nothing/in air
As a kid watching sci-fi movies in the late 80's and throughout the 90's, seeing this finally realized is really cool.
They are not what you're thinking it is. Open air 3d models like in the movies is not possible because light needs a medium to bounce off. You need smoke or a screen to do that.
Even the device in the video vibrates within various planes at a high speed giving you an illusion that the display is hanging in the air. It's a high tech version of that toy fan that shows images in 3d.
A movie like 3d volumetric display is impossible because of how Physics works. Light photons need a medium and cannot rest in open space. 3d Glasses are the only way to achieve such an illusion.
@@mathurp6889 I understand the point you're making. And I went into this with the exact same understanding. However, it's perfectly clear that this is an actual volumetric display because there are several angles shown, including from the bottom, and it's clearly a true volumetric display. I won't pretend to understand how this is being accomplished and I don't think you should either. But it seems clear that this isn't an illusion.
There's a "milky" looking inner box from what I can see. This seems to provide the medium for the light to reflect. But again, there's obviously much more to this technology than just simple reflection, at least in terms of specific output (because overly simplified, this is what's happening).
@@jw11432 I wasn't making guesses. i
I learnt how it works from their own UA-cam channel and webpage.
There is no smoke inside it. The plate vibrates up and down giving an illusion of 3d dispay.
Volumetric displays are actually common. I wasn't talking about those using gas or cloud. I was talking about displays that they show in movies where they can create images in open air without smoke.
In fact I just learnt that a company is trying to emulate that using pulse lasers that turns air into plasma and thus there is no need of smoke as a medium.
I know many people fear the future and what it might hold, but I for one have hope for the future. I think its gonna be incredible. I can only imagine how fun playing a top-down style game on one of these would be. Imagine Civ games or RTS games but instead of on a monitor, its a 3d interactive board game. Even games like D&D would be completely revolutionized by this and bring whole new levels of immersion that's similar but completely separate from VR immersion.
Just the idea alone of a programmable 3d board game/device is insanely cool.
Future thing is becoming real... Amazing
Fascinating. I was talking with my friend how useful one of these would be when looking at walks/hikes across mountains
Yea it would be real great to carry a big glass cube up a mountain
Love your work Voxon team!
This would be insane for things like displaying orbits and such. Since space is 3d, such a display could make for some very interesting things.
Kind of like this ? ua-cam.com/video/jsp4yugiAao/v-deo.htmlsi=PRUeyFUzbFOvwvAf
The solar system itself is pretty much flat by itself due to the way it forms 😅 but yeah, if we're talking galaxy maps, or possibly maybe projecting a black hole with the correct gravitational lensing 👀👀
@@aogasdthe solar system might be largely along a plane, but the smaller bodies in it don't always orbit that way, and if you're looking at orbits around a single body they definitely don't always orbit that wgs.
This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen! Peace and Love
I think this technology would gain a lot more attention if you were to modify Super Mario 64 to be playable with this display, probably the PC version. You usually have to start with something familiar before you can drag people in for the long run, and while using SM64 might be a little risky, it would be way more feasible than getting a classic first person shooter like Doom on this display, plus the proper depth that this display can show would be legendary for any 3D platformer.
The problem with a game like SM64 is the gameplay uses a lot of perspective ( Mario in foreground and large castle in background for example ). Games that work well are ones have been designed around a fixed play space like scrolling 3rd person titles ( Dota, League of Legends etc ). There were lots of games of this type back in the 80s, where each level was a finite space.
@@VoxonPhotonics well you can make super mario bros 2 from super nintendo for this. You can do some zelda games for this. There is so many possibilities with this technology. When will it hit the market??
@@VoxonPhotonics I agree with this other guy consider doing a 2d platformer and definitely keep continuing to look at things like dota.
@@VoxonPhotonics what about a 3d tetris.
@@VoxonPhotonics a modern galaga arcade machine using these could be doable and interesting.
can't wait to see this thing hooked to a live mri feed one day
Amazing technology! Need to try it in military mock-up technology
This needs more attention, it’s so dope
Thanks, please spread the word!
wow, this is incredible!
This is the coolest thing ever.
We needed one of these in my complex analysis class
Do you remember those tabletop arcade games we used to get, that would be the perfect format for this technology.
This looks amazing!
Jeez the amount of work done made me hold the breath.
This is brilliant!
fantastic idea. I want arcade games built with this! Love the sci-fi 80-90's vibes. How did you manage to have the table moving a such high frequency?
Did you consider using an O-LED panel instead of a projector? By using O-led, it would become possible to stack them in order to have a higher display, right?
There used to be a table top arcade game in the 1980s that was sort of 3D. It used a CRT monitor laying flat pointed up and a big curved mirror at the back. Some how the two made it look like the character was 3D. It was a western gunfight theme if I recall correctly. edit: I didn't think it was 1991 but I see Sega's Hologram Time Traveller seems like what I am thinking of.
@dg-hughes I remember that. Very cool for back then aswell.
@@dg-hughes Wow. I wonder if that one can be found somewhere in the depths of eBay. I would certainly be interested.
We are actually living in the future! 🤩
Holograms are slowly becoming a reality!
amazing result..
This is so cool!
The shit with the fly zooming into the fly infinitely is so sick
This is really cool!
this is so wild, we live in a time of VR, sophisticated AI robots, DNA nanobots, hologram displays, where all that was science fiction 20 years ago.
This is the first era in human history where we wrote fiction and lived to see it become reality.
I thought Jules Verne and HG Wells wrote a lot of fiction that became reality in their lifetimes. Heavier than air flight, lasers, instant comms over vast distances, travel to the moon etc.
@@emotown1 maybe they did but none of your examples were that. Telegraphs were invented in their youth, hot air balloons are extremely heavy, we never actually put men on the moon, etc
@@neetpride5919 Fаtherless behavior.
@@Ranstone nah, Jules Verne and HG Wells didn't even write about fatherless behavior
This is awesome
you impress me, well done.
You are on the bleeding edge of display concepts, well done! I want one for my fractals.
Bleeding edge? No
This is simply reflecting light off translucent panels.
@@escapedcops08 More creativity and original thought featured in this video than you have mustered across a lifetime
@@escapedcops08 So what? It works. It didn't exist before. It's cheaper and simpler than most 3D volumetric displays. Also the resolution is only limited by the projector's specs, not the table hardware. Just increase the FPS and you'll have more resolution in depth. This is fantastic! I want one!
@@wingdingdmetrius8025 lmao fanboys got offended
@@escapedcops08"escape the cops" lmao
It should be used to display the Death Star plans
Just about to say the same. A lot of Bothans died to bring the Alliance that information.
Cool concept; I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes.
Did you not watch the video? ;)
Been waiting for something like this to come into reality
It's been there for decades. It's just a rotating "screen".
very nice, always wanted a Command&Conquer on a "3D Table" !
Damn cool!
Neat use for aerogel!
omg awesome!
That answered all my questions
That's awesome
these things would break so insanely quick, i wonder if they could make a solidstate version using electric glass that can just become more opaque with an electric signal. might allow for increased fps or height too.
Interesting idea 💾
$11,700?! Looks im gonna have to wait a few years/decades for a chance to try this out
I am witnessing the imagination coming into reality.... what a perfect time to live.
finally future comes closer
tabletop gaming + voxon, just imagine the fun! playing d&d, warhammer, etc. and have everything come to life before you.
Once the price becomes more affordable and they get a little larger it's going to be awesome to watch live sports on!
ua-cam.com/video/2B_z5HVZifM/v-deo.html like this!
This is cool
I've been thinking about looking into this myself, though I don't know how expensive a projector like this is (or if I can even find one). Obviously it probably wouldn't be worth trying to learn to make one myself, since I imagine it would be far too time consuming and expensive to make.
Besides, I imagine it's currently not possible to draw anything but wire frames for the moment at least. This kinda reminds me of those old 3D video games that were wire frames, though eventually they figured out how to make more 3D objects, then figured out how to texture them. I guess you guys are going to go through a similar process, but time will tell.
EDIT: I just saw your video on "ray traced baked lighting", so it seems you're already working on that.
its like a very sophisticated Flipbook
Great
finally one step closer to holograms
Since you guys are called voxon photonics, then how about making a demo with photon's wavefunction?
Sounds interesting, can you please send some more details of what that is to contact@voxon.co.
3d table maps! The ones used in movies where the military strategize combat stuff lol.
Nice
I saw those Voxatron games in there, don't think I didn't!
okay. daisy chain 9 of them together! GO BIG
imagine having a screen like this as a traffic controller.. that would be awesome
Neat.
This is like something out of the original Star Wars
We’ve finally reached the 80’s idea of the future
Music selection for this was on point.
lets go holograms!!
How far up can you build it vertically before framerate issues start to arise?
How I assume this works is a film traversing up and down at breakneck speeds which then slices of a 3d image are projected onto it, right?
But like, what happens when you decide to make a really tall one?
I don't think they'd need to make a tall one, just a cubic one.
I bet you could watch a movie on one if it were shaped like a cube.
@@vanillagorilla8696 what if it were huge and had some space for you to stand in the middle?
the huge one would be dope, reminded me a Blade runner reference.. I can imagine bigger version of this being used on architecture as an advertisement placeholder. We now have AI chatbots and AI image generators which unlocked possibility of AI personalities train on libraries of data.. Why not combine this tech, upscale it and make a fortune? Cuz they dont know how,.. my guess
its a spinning screen with depth
They missed a good opportunity to display CTN 0452-9. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thumbnail.
you could play irl inscryption act 3 with this. dope as hell
Incredible useful for intergalactic communications 😅
I mean x-rays and model inspection
This would be a game changer for GPS
I want this, and I want to know how it works and what all is involved in making this useful amd practical.
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Is this the thing that we always seen in future video or movies
Take my money!
Reminds me of the hologram projector they had on the show bones. Think they only used it the first few seasons then got rid of it because it was so ahead of it's time it made the show look like it was trying to be futurist.
Insdeed, the "Angelator" was a bit ahead of its time...
It looks like Aerogel. Have you tried projecting onto that with very focused light?
Now we just need a Solido Console projecting holograms on our Battlestation.
i cannot be the only one thinking that this might revolutionize DnD
I haven't seen anyone mention Star Wars hologram calls, they are so impractical but I a little tiny bit of me wants to see something like that work.
Did I see Voxatron running on it? Awesome! Has Joseph White a.k.a. Lexaloffle had the chance to see this in person?
spatial reality is the future. were witnessing the dinosaur stages of this technology. unreal
Is that a large block of hydrogel?!? If it is, this is genius. A display made out of this stuff would be very durable. Very nice presentation ❤️
Nope man that is even better... its a vibrating membrane. It vibrates so fast that you cant see it. The height is the oscillation range. The membrane is square
@martinsimeonov1563 ,that is even better. It's so rad how creative people can be.
sounds loud, is it loud?
@@EqualToBen i guess it is but there's lots variations showing a dome so i guess they use it in air like that only to tweak while the complete version has the transparent half-ball (probably vacuumed)
bullshit, its a simple fog generator. thats why its shot in low light conditions. they use multiple projectors (probably laser projectors) to project light into that space. shold be quite similar to this, just more refined: ua-cam.com/video/v0bXuCIwtJo/v-deo.html @@martinsimeonov1563
This is the first thing I'd buy when I get rich. This and a real time 3D scanning camera so I can chat with friends like in star wars.
Idc about perspective I think since SMB 64 is open source it’s worth a shot. It’s just be cool to see even if not practical.
Shoot even GTA would blow minds
It's getting near
why does this only have 800 likes? that`s insane. it`s some starwars grade of technlolgy!!
How does it work? It looks stunning!
In simple terms, our DLL slices up 3D data into hundreds of layers and then projects them at around 4000fps onto a very fast-moving screen in perfect sync with the movement of the screen. It's like a 3D printer, only about 100,000 times faster and using light instead of plastic filament.
@@VoxonPhotonics that's amazing! But isn't that a lot of stress for the whole system?
@@ceserarus Not at all because we take advantage of the natural principle of resonance. The screen subsystem is designed to have a natural resonance of 15hz, so that when given a small input vibration, it naturally resonates up and down 8cm. The screen only weighs around 140 grams. As the screen vibrates up and down, it completes 30 passes of the volume every second.
@@VoxonPhotonics that is a really clever solution! Thank you guys for all the info. Do you want to make something more consumer friendly like Looking Glass did with the Portrait. I would really enjoy a small holographic display!
@@VoxonPhotonics Could you add more screens every 8cm to make it taller and add height to the display?
Cool! Is that aerogel?
Finally what sci-fi movies have been promising for decades
cool
This is very cool! Is that a block of aerogel or something?
Is this an aerogel being used as a projector rmedium? Thats so cool!
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
With how this displays cg in ACTUAL 3 dimensions, can't help but wonder how this would improve in making depth perception work in platformers.
ua-cam.com/video/ZUZJz7rRJnM/v-deo.html like this?