This is the next display tech. The team knows that you’re breaking ground. I’m very very pleased and can’t wait to see what another decade of development and PR will do. Congrats to all of you 🍾
In reality this will find very important although niche use. Medical imaging, 3D space manipulation mainly for CAD, construction and architecture, mechanical engineering, robotics, automotive, education, perhaps chemistry. But not much else. This is groundbreaking but not in the sense that it'll become a commodity. You will never own one or have the need to own one. Unless you want a cool party trick, if so then I'm in the same boat because this is damn awesome. But VR/AR HMDs are so, so much more versatile and easier to set up and operate as a consumer product.
The principles for this tech are very old. All we need for this to advance is a lighter screen that moves fast with less energy and less noise and a smaller projector that can deliver thousands of fps. Otherwise we don't have a better way to displaying volumetric images, there are no known principles of physics that can be used for a hologram like in the movies. I suspect more compact and more efficient AR glasses and better hand tracking will take over anyway.
1:08 ok, finally some sort of explanation. The screen vibrates between all positions and the screen displays each one in the right layer. Nuts how fast and acurate it can be. Was starting to belive this was fake. Still have some questions. Is if a screen or just a glass to catch the projecting light? Seems like the latter would be cheaper.
@@VoxonPhotonics this is inspired. can't wait for a football pitch sized installation playing some sick VFX. but this can honestly change quite a few things. I'm honestly hyped and looking forward to what comes next, especially on the consumer level.
dome might be airtight and run in a light vacuum. otoh, I don't see a dome in most of the clips, so maybe they actually run this open? that'd make a hell of a buzz. for physics reasons, the screen probably doesn't move linearly, but sinusoidally. since the speed of the screen, together with the light output of the projector, determines how bright each unit volume appears, now you've got to modulate the light output as a function of the screen's speed too, just to make them all appear the same brightness (vs. the upper and lower face being brighter and the middle being darker). neat engineering.
Now that I've seen it power on, it appears to be either a single or multiple flat displays layered on top of each other, that then reciprocate up and down. It's drawing very precise concurrent layers and most likely shuttering the image as it runs. That explains the safety dome and large undercarriage. I fell in love with this device the first time I saw it. Now I'm even more enamored with it's engineering and capabilities. Can't wait to get my hands on one, some day. Perhaps the technology will become more widespread and lower the cost to entry, like 3D printers did.
@@dsfs17987 very possible, but given this second video on the topic (ua-cam.com/video/8h6uZK1Cey8/v-deo.html) it doesn't sound like a vacuum pump is running. The description seems to suggest it's just sound from the motors and "turbulent" air due to movement, attenuated by the dome. I'm not saying "it's definitely not" a part of it, but just that I'm not convinced that it is. Truly, if it was using a vacuum, I'd expect it to be even quieter. If I ever get my hands on one, I'll find out for sure lol.
@@FenrirTheMenace I hadn't seen that video, that tells me there is no vacuum setup used there, and it is purely for protecting the gear and the user and reducing noise curious as to the screen material used, must be some sort of semi rigid mesh to move through air with little resistance, and the posts don't seem to move sideways much indicating that there is little stretching in the screen that would pull posts sideways, perhaps the size we see in demos is the reasonable limit before air resistance/stretching becomes a problem, vacuum might help here, though with large areas even low vacuums result in very high loads which would make these specialty items = very expensive, which I guess is not their target
@@FenrirTheMenace I don't know their business plan, but I doubt there is any future for it at the 10k price, they probably, like the rest of these AR gadgets, are expecting for a big investor to buy them out if they want quantity of sales, it will have to come down to probably 400-500$ range max, and that doesn't seem too out of reach, since there is nothing really uber expensive or complex, it is a projection on a moving screen essentially, so trivial to manufacture, the smart part is the software, smart, not expensive the problems I see is the longevity of the moving hardware, one wouldn't want to sell lots of these with little margin only for them to start to fail after few months of use, that would surely bankrupt them anyway, cool demo, but I don't think this particular design of a 3d display has real practical use in future
I've had my mind blown for about an hour now after seeing the Doom video. This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen, didn't know this existed. Good job, clever design, can't believe it can move that distance that fast.
i would love to see a video with just the machine doing it's thing without the music or the overly enthousiastic voiceover just so we can hear how much noise that flappy screen makes.
it's the only way, a rotating reflector would require horizontal light banks, 2 because at times the light would be hitting the entire plane of the reflector. the energy savings off a spinning reflector isn't worth the additional problems not to mention likely worst image.
I assume there's an upper limit to the size of each individual device seeing that you can only vibrate something that quickly up to a certain size...so then the scalability would come from almost creating an LED like array from multiples of them? But how does the computing power scale with that then?
Riiight, so the entire screen platter shoots up and down for each 3d frame. Kinda like a giant 3d physical electron gun from a CRT, drawing the image so quickly we don't notice. 4000 FPS is a bit misleading. 4000 slices per second yes, but each 3d frame is some division of that, depending on how many slices there are in the volume. No way that thing is completing a cycle 4000 times a second. Problems - I imagine this is LOUD, it's effectively a flat speaker as well as a screen. Maximum size constrains; that's a huge volume of air to be pushing around so fast. Not ever going to be seeing an entire conference table, or a billboard without some major changes. Still very cool for small stuff, that all said. EDIT: I guess you could put the whole thing in a vacuum chamber to eliminate the air resistance and noise problem, but again that can only scale so large.
You are almost right. It goes up and down 15 times per second. So 30 volumes per second. Around 130 slices per volume. Its not that loud. We made a youtube about how loud it is.
@@VoxonPhotonics Ok cool, 15hz is definitely sub human hearing as far as my speaker analogy goes. I'll have to hunt down the video you mentioned. Point still stands regarding the volume of air being pushed around - how would this be mitigated at larger scales?
@@VoxonPhotonics Thanks! This makes it a bit clearer! but still would love to know a bit more of the design behind it. Like what are you printing on in the air? is the volume filled with layers of a see through material?
Ok so a vertically moving glass in non-airless environment and a laser projector. Technically nothing has been changed. "A global leader in 3D Volumetric Display technology". Which one?
The issue is this display physically moves. Meaning you'd need it to take up two rooms, one on top of the other, and deal with the ridiculous speeds the display would have to move at.
The explanation they give for the tech is just a bunch of jargon that doesn't make sense in the context, and they never show it switched off or how it works. You can't '3d print light' lmao Definitely a scam.
Considering its a display moving up and down like 30 times a second I'm really wondering how much noise its producing. 🤔
its in a vacuum...
@@rgw5991 Are you sure? Don't see any glass around it? Also that would mean there's is vacuum pump inside which I can find any information on 🤔
There is a video of them showing the noise
Maybe, it is a flexible pcb display
@@FullFledged2010 whats the glass dome for, then? i mean, other than preventing kids from sticking in fingers that is
"How does it work?" *proceeds to not explain how it works even slightly*
Holly shit I thought I was just stupid and I didn't understand how it worked 😂
Thank you 😂😂😂
I’ve been following this product for years now and it just keeps getting better! Patiently waiting for a consumer version. 😭🙏
you want your tv to shake violently. awesome.
This is the next display tech. The team knows that you’re breaking ground. I’m very very pleased and can’t wait to see what another decade of development and PR will do. Congrats to all of you 🍾
In reality this will find very important although niche use. Medical imaging, 3D space manipulation mainly for CAD, construction and architecture, mechanical engineering, robotics, automotive, education, perhaps chemistry. But not much else. This is groundbreaking but not in the sense that it'll become a commodity. You will never own one or have the need to own one. Unless you want a cool party trick, if so then I'm in the same boat because this is damn awesome. But VR/AR HMDs are so, so much more versatile and easier to set up and operate as a consumer product.
+ gaming
The principles for this tech are very old. All we need for this to advance is a lighter screen that moves fast with less energy and less noise and a smaller projector that can deliver thousands of fps. Otherwise we don't have a better way to displaying volumetric images, there are no known principles of physics that can be used for a hologram like in the movies. I suspect more compact and more efficient AR glasses and better hand tracking will take over anyway.
1:08 ok, finally some sort of explanation. The screen vibrates between all positions and the screen displays each one in the right layer. Nuts how fast and acurate it can be. Was starting to belive this was fake. Still have some questions. Is if a screen or just a glass to catch the projecting light? Seems like the latter would be cheaper.
Yes, @Alexandre Machado, that's a good summary of how it works. We are projecting thousands of frames every second onto a special lightweight screen.
@@VoxonPhotonics this is inspired. can't wait for a football pitch sized installation playing some sick VFX.
but this can honestly change quite a few things. I'm honestly hyped and looking forward to what comes next, especially on the consumer level.
dome might be airtight and run in a light vacuum. otoh, I don't see a dome in most of the clips, so maybe they actually run this open? that'd make a hell of a buzz.
for physics reasons, the screen probably doesn't move linearly, but sinusoidally.
since the speed of the screen, together with the light output of the projector, determines how bright each unit volume appears, now you've got to modulate the light output as a function of the screen's speed too, just to make them all appear the same brightness (vs. the upper and lower face being brighter and the middle being darker).
neat engineering.
@@VoxonPhotonicswhat are the current size limitations? 30cm?
Now that I've seen it power on, it appears to be either a single or multiple flat displays layered on top of each other, that then reciprocate up and down. It's drawing very precise concurrent layers and most likely shuttering the image as it runs. That explains the safety dome and large undercarriage. I fell in love with this device the first time I saw it. Now I'm even more enamored with it's engineering and capabilities. Can't wait to get my hands on one, some day. Perhaps the technology will become more widespread and lower the cost to entry, like 3D printers did.
"safety" dome is probably more like a vacuum dome to get rid of air resistance
@@dsfs17987 very possible, but given this second video on the topic (ua-cam.com/video/8h6uZK1Cey8/v-deo.html) it doesn't sound like a vacuum pump is running. The description seems to suggest it's just sound from the motors and "turbulent" air due to movement, attenuated by the dome. I'm not saying "it's definitely not" a part of it, but just that I'm not convinced that it is. Truly, if it was using a vacuum, I'd expect it to be even quieter. If I ever get my hands on one, I'll find out for sure lol.
@@FenrirTheMenace I hadn't seen that video, that tells me there is no vacuum setup used there, and it is purely for protecting the gear and the user and reducing noise
curious as to the screen material used, must be some sort of semi rigid mesh to move through air with little resistance, and the posts don't seem to move sideways much indicating that there is little stretching in the screen that would pull posts sideways, perhaps the size we see in demos is the reasonable limit before air resistance/stretching becomes a problem, vacuum might help here, though with large areas even low vacuums result in very high loads which would make these specialty items = very expensive, which I guess is not their target
@@dsfs17987 I mean, I wouldn't call something that costs over $10k "inexpensive".
@@FenrirTheMenace I don't know their business plan, but I doubt there is any future for it at the 10k price, they probably, like the rest of these AR gadgets, are expecting for a big investor to buy them out
if they want quantity of sales, it will have to come down to probably 400-500$ range max, and that doesn't seem too out of reach, since there is nothing really uber expensive or complex, it is a projection on a moving screen essentially, so trivial to manufacture, the smart part is the software, smart, not expensive
the problems I see is the longevity of the moving hardware, one wouldn't want to sell lots of these with little margin only for them to start to fail after few months of use, that would surely bankrupt them
anyway, cool demo, but I don't think this particular design of a 3d display has real practical use in future
I waited through the entire video thinking it was an unskippable ad lol
Brilliant because the base principle is quite simple and just works. It's obvious this will have lots of applications.
So it isn't something spinning, it's a platform bobbing up and sound?
Well that sounds REALLY safe.
So moving led's up and down at an extreme speed?
This is insane! Much love from Brazil 🇧🇷
I've had my mind blown for about an hour now after seeing the Doom video. This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen, didn't know this existed. Good job, clever design, can't believe it can move that distance that fast.
Mind-blowingly beautiful.
Great job Ken and team!
How does it sound like
i would love to see a video with just the machine doing it's thing without the music or the overly enthousiastic voiceover just so we can hear how much noise that flappy screen makes.
How do you calculate pixel density for volumetric display?
Voxels per inch/cm cube?
What about color accuracy
Does this project the image onto a glass plate?
Is the back and fourth reflector better than a rotating reflector?
it's the only way, a rotating reflector would require horizontal light banks, 2 because at times the light would be hitting the entire plane of the reflector. the energy savings off a spinning reflector isn't worth the additional problems not to mention likely worst image.
Great progress!
I would be too tempted to try grabbing the images, just to hit the vibrating screen thingy and break the display. It’s super cool though
Hello..!..Suppose that glass box is very big nd I am under that box..Now can I see those holograms..?... Please reply....
Seems you guys based the name on the Photonic Vox System from the movie “The Time Machine”
I assume there's an upper limit to the size of each individual device seeing that you can only vibrate something that quickly up to a certain size...so then the scalability would come from almost creating an LED like array from multiples of them? But how does the computing power scale with that then?
I can’t wait for the future omg
me 2
The ultimate display we all were waiting for
Right up until I heard Intel i was interested. Hope it doesn't catch fire or get a virus
Riiight, so the entire screen platter shoots up and down for each 3d frame. Kinda like a giant 3d physical electron gun from a CRT, drawing the image so quickly we don't notice.
4000 FPS is a bit misleading. 4000 slices per second yes, but each 3d frame is some division of that, depending on how many slices there are in the volume. No way that thing is completing a cycle 4000 times a second.
Problems - I imagine this is LOUD, it's effectively a flat speaker as well as a screen. Maximum size constrains; that's a huge volume of air to be pushing around so fast. Not ever going to be seeing an entire conference table, or a billboard without some major changes.
Still very cool for small stuff, that all said.
EDIT: I guess you could put the whole thing in a vacuum chamber to eliminate the air resistance and noise problem, but again that can only scale so large.
You are almost right. It goes up and down 15 times per second. So 30 volumes per second. Around 130 slices per volume. Its not that loud. We made a youtube about how loud it is.
@@VoxonPhotonics Ok cool, 15hz is definitely sub human hearing as far as my speaker analogy goes. I'll have to hunt down the video you mentioned.
Point still stands regarding the volume of air being pushed around - how would this be mitigated at larger scales?
Is this available for retail users
Using blender!!! Nice!
how much noise does it make ?
dont sell yourself short guys, this is super impressive.
dont pin it all on intel, they didnt do jack shit.
its a screen that moove on a axis in and out,
how loud is it
This is the best Parkinson monitor I have ever seen.❤
Great work!
was my response removed?
Imagine what the future is going to be in the next 10 years.😅
Holy that would pump up Blender
how do you move your mouse in 3d
How does it work?… computerchip synergy -.-
It's like a 3D printer, but instead of extruding plastic, we're printing light layer by layer very quickly.
@@VoxonPhotonics Thanks! This makes it a bit clearer! but still would love to know a bit more of the design behind it. Like what are you printing on in the air? is the volume filled with layers of a see through material?
@@ThomvanVliet 1:08 you can see its a layer that vibrates up and down. The principles of a speaker, but for video.
@@traceurAlex Ohh yeah of course! nice one, thanks!
excuse me did u say 4000 fps
I need this!
I love tech 😍
Ok so a vertically moving glass in non-airless environment and a laser projector. Technically nothing has been changed. "A global leader in 3D Volumetric Display technology". Which one?
guys i think they're partnered with intel
If my pc could run one of these then how much would it take to power a full scale room VD!
A lot...
The issue is this display physically moves. Meaning you'd need it to take up two rooms, one on top of the other, and deal with the ridiculous speeds the display would have to move at.
Make one the size of a house. I am Iron Man!
just dont try to touch that. gonna bite ya.
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any possibility opening up for AMD ?
Yes it works with AMD also .
This is what a 4D being would see us as.
Shaking guts out of poor lcd panel. Did you also notice that it is barely visible only in dark environments?
Nope... thats not how we do it.
omg we dont exist
I don`t know Rick it looks fake
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its cool but its kinda useless and since it relies on mechanical moving parts i guess it would also be very fragile
I've waited all the video to see how it's working but it's actually just an Intel commercial .I disliked
Obvious scam is obvious. Any sane person would not try to reach 4000 fps without GPU acceleration, let alone finding a 4000Hz screen.
no, it won't take on with the mainstream.
The explanation they give for the tech is just a bunch of jargon that doesn't make sense in the context, and they never show it switched off or how it works. You can't '3d print light' lmao
Definitely a scam.
Nothing New, Simple Imitation Of Earths Skyes, Luminaries Process-ions & Resonating Fields etc. Gtfooh! 😘
Ah yes, the lame music - designed not to offend anybody (unless you really like music, of course).
Hoax