Death Note // Immediate Consequences and Meaningful Conflict
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Death Note walks a thin line many shows struggle with - a line between Meaningful Conflict and Immediate Consequence.
I apologise in advance for butchering any and all the names of Death Note's cast.
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Selections from the Death note OST
Composed by Yoshihisa Hirano and
Hideki Taniuchi
Death Note
Mello's Theme
Solitude (I don't know why there's a 'T' next to the name in the video, that was a mistake)
L's Theme A
Near's Theme
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We're still analyzing it over a decade later. That's pretty special
Just imaging DBZ😆
Yeah
Akira is still the topic of discussions to these days
Masterpiece
It deserves to be analyzed forever.
Naomis death was perfectly animated. The way her eyes went cold and her skin looked pale and cold. It was as if she died before she was dead.
I think the reason why it was so difficult for a lot of people to accept L's death is that he was a beautifully built character and the only one that appeared to be able to even challenge Light. Everything seemed headed in a way that L would eventually catch Kira instead he was brutally killed and I can say that initially I couldn't even believe he had actually died...
That made it hard to accept Near or Mello as characters that just show up of thin air...
Anyway great video, keep up the amazing work!
Fargo Cheers!
Personally that's actually what I like about L's death, it felt like it broke from everything the series was building too, and even if the last arc wasn't as enjoyable to me as the first in particular I've got a lot of respect for the writing decision to totally break from the expected narrative.
it's funny how many people feel that way, I loved L, but from the beginning it was Lights story, so I was rooting for him. So for me it was a victory, untill he finally met Near
Yeah I couldn't believe L died either I thought he was just faking I sat there waiting for him to pop bacl up..and he didn't😭.
I agree yet I still like Near more than L I think that Near was the one to catch Kira, and in the end, if you think about it, L did win.
I relate to L in many ways, that's why it was pretty hard on me when I saw him drop that spoon. Also, sitting like L actually improves your deductive reasoning, it's also a lot easier to think about philosophy and shit when you're high.
Misa is actually an incredibly tragic character. She could have been a normal, happy girl, but got so wound up in Light's web of manipulation that she just gave up in the end. Kiyomi, had she come first, would have been treated the same as Misa, but she died too early to experience Misa's feelings of alienation. She did die, as Light had planned in the end, but she truly believed she would survive her dilemmas. Misa, however, knew in the end that she had no place left in the world after Light had essentially ruined her. Some think she killed herself because Light was gone and she loved him, but I think she killed herself because she was merely a ghost without him, and knew it.
While I agree that Misa is a bit tragic, I still find her to be poorly written. Mostly because she actively chooses to get involved in the conflict when she didn't have to, and she is willfully blind to anything questionable that Light might do, both to her and to the world.
So basically, I struggle to find her sympathetic when she wasn't forced into any of this...
She didn't die because of his minuplation she allowed everything to happen to her because she worshipped Kira and loved light in her own sick way. He didn't love her but clearly did have some feelings for her that he did protect her and did keep her around when he could've had her killed but nope and she said for him to use her so he can love her.
@@pride2184 Light only protected her and kept her around because it was benefitial to him, not because he had some feelings for Misa. In the first half Light couldn't get rid of Misa because Rem, in the second half he couldn't get rid of Misa because people already suspected she was the second Kira and killing her would only make him look more suspicious. To Light Misa was nothing but a burden he had to put up with, there's nothing more to it.
Ah, I see we have another L on our hands. Never thought of it that way.
@@treceslez Perfect
For me, Naomi's death was sadder than L's death, all because of the way she was manipulated and all hope of capturing Kira was thrown away, it gets even sadder after reading the BB's murder case where naomi is practically the protagonist.
The bbs murder case was a great book and really made me like Misora, her death hit different after:(
The dinner date between misa and kiyomi was not poorly done at all. Her sore loser attitude and denial that she was losing Light to another woman was handled impressively that it actually made me sad for that "unbelievably dumb girl". It was comedic and heartbreaking at the same time and served to highlight the cruel emotional impact of Light's brutally cold manipulation. So, not everything about misa was over the top or poorly handled.
The way Light treated her really made me sympathise with her. She could be annoying at times, but she wasn't a bad person, she just wasn't her own person. It was obvious that Rem and Mogi cared more about Misa than Light ever did or could.
Hot DAMN I agree!!! You literally snatched the words out of my mouth
Misa Amane was one of the smartest characters in the show, or if not the smartest then definitely the most clever. Disguises, mailing her Kira tapes over a bunch of postal codes to obscure its point of origins, the coded Journal entries, and finding Kira BEFORE THE POLICE. You could say that she is *cheating* with the Eyes, but she uses the Eyes in highly creative ways regardless ( like seeing his name with no timer, completely bypassing Light's plan to move in a crowd).
Unfortunately, I think the author realized she was too much of a spicy pepper to remain in the stew (the same fate as Naomi, who learned too much too fast). She is 'nerfed' in the latter half of the series to become a vapid teen girl again, bouncing between amnesia and blind ditzy loyalty to Light, forced to be stupid when plot demands (not recognizing L's name immediately, or later not remembering L's name after DN retrieval, when it turned out his real first name WAS LITERALLY L??). Her scenes with Takada are a breath of fresh air at that point in the story because we're just happy to see Misa having something to do, and it's perfectly within her character to flaunt her high status with Kira to Takada. Unfortunately, she basically becomes a non-factor in the final confrontations and is not even present when Light dies, which I think is pretty sad. In the manga, Misa's suicide after Light's death is only mentioned in the supplementary materials, though the anime plays it out during the ending credits. What I've always pondered is whether Misa's two deals with the eyes cut her lifespan to that moment of suicide, leading Light's death to happen to meet that new "death deadline" for Misa.
@Joshua Harris I guess that's true, I hadn't considered the extra time Rem and Gelus gave her lifespan by saving her.
Also am I the only one that finds the orchestral track that plays when they walk out of the restaurant and misa is drunk extremely fitting?
The path to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Great video! Naomi’s fall to Light was the moment this anime went from “😳whoa this show is interesting af” to “🤯this show is crazy I gotta see how it ends”
Okay, so you don't seem to like Misa that much (this is maybe why you didn't mention the conflict I'm seeing), but I think the conflict between Misa trying to get genuine affection from Light and Light simply using her as a tool is interesting too (and somewhat is making me pity Misa). It may not be relevant to the plot overall, but it made Death Note for me a little bit more interesting.
Misa helped flesh out Light as a character by showing how Light shamelessly manipulated her for his own goals, while Light with his memories of using the Death Note erased actually refuses to manipulate Misa for his own ends, even if he views those own ends as an extremely important good.
Drinking game: take a drink anytime the words "conflict" or "consequence" are said. In the time it took me to write this, I would have already died from alcohol poisoning.
Haha, yep, that would be a pretty dangerous game to play :)
Coozing
Or drowned more likely...
"L's death couldn't be avoided" Sorry, but I have 12 years worth of Death Note fanfics to prove that statement wrong.
Well, for the message the series was supposed to transport, I think it was important that he eventually died
Preach it, fam! XD
Any of those fics quality? I'm looking for some and I need help-
Lillian Adkins use ao3, l/original female character, and put it so it sorts through word count. There are a few amazing long ones hope that helps xx
F**k L and Near
When you talk when the music is in the background I feel like I’m watching death note again
This was an incredibly well written, well thought out video!
I've spent a lot of time dwelling on Death Note and to me the most pervasive conflict is one that you don't explicitly mention, perhaps because it seems so obvious. And that is the conflict between Good and Evil.
Some anti-heroes have seemingly noble, even righteous motives at first. I view Breaking Bad's Walter White in this way, with a good motive eventually morphing into selfish destruction and impure motives. Others such as Lelouch vi Britannia tread a dark path, but ultimately achieve redemption for the earth at the expense of their own name.
Light Yagami, however, is thoroughly evil the moment he uses the book, and that villainy never changes. He tries to elevate himself above morality and the systems of man much like Raskolnikov in Crime and Punishment, likening himself to figures great enough to usurp the current order and create a truly new, better world. In order to convince himself he's acting purely, he imputes his own beliefs onto the population, claiming that in their hearts, the people agree that criminals should be put to death. But who is Light to divine the wishes of the masses? And even were this true, it does not make right his murder. Even if the final showdown between Light and Near goes otherwise and Light kills his last opponent, his actions are still evil. Although the winner writes the history books, Light is still evil even if he manages to rule the world in the way he envisions.
When there is such an evil, powerful figure at play (Light, Pablo Escobar, etc), I tend to believe that otherwise immoral actions can be good when they are done to stop those evil people. Under my assumption, every character who works to defeat Light is good regardless of who they hurt along the way, assuming such damage was necessary to defeating a larger evil. L, Near, Mellow, the task force, etc all have the relative moral high ground when pursuing Kira. But interestingly enough, there seems to be very little hero-created collateral damage in Death Note, a result of a relatively tight cast of characters and stark lines dividing Good and Evil. It's like the creators of Death Note want us to see the two sides as distinct, rather than the murkiness that so often surrounds anti-hero narratives.
As far as consequences are concerned, whenever I hear the first notes of Light's death song "Death Image" I always think "It didn't have to be this way." Villains act, heroes react. Light's attempt to become god cost the lives of thousands of people including Light, his father, and L. Light was so determined to be evil, that despite good ultimately prevailing, a wake of destruction was left behind him. Light could have had it all with his inherent gifts, but instead he tried to be like god, a sin focused on extensively in shows like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood.
My biggest question when going down this rabbit hole is "Is Ryuk evil?" I'm not sure. Those that aid villains are evil, but can a non-human be held to a similar moral standard as a human? A wolf is not evil when it bites a lamb, but we consider it evil when it bites a child. How do we compare a human, a wolf, and an intelligent, otherworldly creature such as a Shinigami? Ryuk drops the first death note because he is bored, and although he helps Light in various minor ways along the journey, he's ultimately willing without any hesitation to take Light's life. Villains act, and Ryuk acts first in Death Note. But is allowing evil to happen in the way Ryuk did itself evil? I'd say probably, but I'm not sure. A case could be made that Ryuk is the only character who is truly neutral over the course of Death Note.
I really don't know how much of this makes sense, its just a story I greatly enjoy thinking about. Great video, earned a new subscriber.
John Novakovich Cheers!
I definitely agree that Light was evil more or less from the moment he used the Note for the first time, there's a lot in your comment (especially in comparing Light and Walter White) that I'm not going to respond directly too as I've had a loose plan to discuss the villain / protagonist relationship in relation to Death Note, Breaking Bad and probably a few other similar shows that I don't want to pre-emptively start writing here, but I would probably begin with a similar view point to that which you expressed.
The Ryuk question is definitely an interesting one - on the one hand the lives of humans are little more than his entertainment throughout the series and given he didn't chose light to recieve the Notebook I think you'd be justified in viewing him as something of a truly neutral chracter, but on the other hand he does have an interest in prolonging the time Light has with the Notebook and there are a few actions he takes that could be considered to be assisting Light (revealing Penber was following Light for example) so I think it'd also be fair to call him evil in some capacity. Personally I'd describe him as a sort of dark stand in for the audience - he seems to get the most enjoyment out of seeing the Notebook pitting individuals against each other in situations where one or the other ends up dead. (See Light's initial confrontation with L, almost all of his reactions with Light and Naomi Misora etc.) I think his goal isn't to kill anyone or to keep them alive, it's merely to watch them interact in a situation that has stakes (because Shinigami can't die at the hands of another Shinigami, those stakes aren't present in his own world) and to that end he only seems to interfere when it might raise stakes, instead mostly just observing. I guess personally I'd say he probably couldn't be judged under the moral standards of the human characters, but he's definitely an interesting character to think about in that light.
Thanks for your thoughts, they were really interesting :)
Ryuk is essentially the Three Witches figure of this story, he's chiefly in it to watch train-wrecks unfold, and as for his alien nature, it's not as though we're viewing him in a vacuum with no other shinigami to compare him to. It was with a light heart that Ryuk took up his pen.
(Sidoh can be neutral.)
I would actually say that Light is not completely evil, at first, he was a hero for all he knew. He lacked the moral development for seeing that not everyone may agree to what he thinks is right, but his intention in starting to use the Death Note on a regular basis was based on making the world a better place in his eyes. While testing his powers and especially because he was obsessed with winning against L, he however lost focus and slowly became more and more fond of himself.
Stopping all wars and reducing the world wide crime rate by 70% is something we would consider the doing of a hero, though. A "war hero" is not considered evil when he fought in a war, which includes taking lifes. The question of good or bad can't be seperated from the question of right or wrong in this case, I suppose
On a human point of view, Ryuk is evil, endangering and using someone for entertainment just to kill the person once he gets bored again. On the other hand, it seems more like a cats vs. mice situation when the cat plays with a mouse which is potental food, all for entertainment. In that case, it really seems neutral.
I do think that Light's ideals are certainly messed up and the narrative (manga, at least) treated them as bad... But I don't think that's the conflict here. In the manga, it's been made clear that "from the beginning, this was never a battle measured by the laws of the world, but rather to prove who is on top". It's a battle of ego, of pride.
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Dude I love your conflict graph, easy on the eyes and simple to read!
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Hmmmmm.
I love this video to the core, thank you, but I have to say a quick little thing regarding what you just said there. It wasn't that Near and Mello were interested in catching Kira before the other rather than simply catching Kira, but that was more _Mello's_ problem. Near _was_ interested in catching Kira but _wasn't_ interested in his conflict with Mello, established many times when Near said Mello isn't his opponent, Kira is.
So, with the climax, it was more a simultaneous conclusion of all three conflicts, Near VS Light, Mello VS Light, and Near VS Mello. Mello dies, earning Light the victory over his battle with Mello. Mello finally lets his jealousy aside, ending his conflict with Near. Near takes advantage of this to defeat Light.
In that case, in my opinion, one shouldn't see this as three separate conflicts, but rather the same one, a giant one, Kira VS Near VS Mello, which is how it was intended to be. With this in mind, I suppose one could have a more optimistic outlook on the finale. Now, of course, these three conflicts were more byproducts of this grander conflict, but the same could apply for Light VS Rem, right? One could just as easily say how Light defeated L by ending his conflict with Rem, except in the case of Kira VS Near VS Mello, these three conflicts affect each other on a much grander scale, considering they're actually the same battle rather than individual battles spawning from that battle.
I'm quite tired now, so I apologize if I find stupid and if I wasted your time. But yeah, overall, phenomenal video, probably one of my favourite analyses out there actually.
PhulaTrox Thanks!
Good point, I've always seen Near as being uninterested in Kira and more interested in 'winning the game', but as you rightly point out that isn't the same as being specifically focused on the conflict with Mello, and I like how you draw parallels to the L, Light and Rem confilct too.
Thanks for the correction :)
(SPOILERS FOR GAME OF THRONES, ALL SEASONS)
The reason many left after L's death was because Mello and Near had no previous introduction and were just shoved in right after L's death.
Game of Thrones managed to keep people watching because Ned's death did not kill the investment. We had already been introduced to Robb Stark who could carry the toarch forward.
Furthermore, there were so many loose ends with Arya escaping from the Lannisters, the Stark rebellion already started, how Renly had escaped the city before Ned tried to stage his coup and how Ned Stark had sent a letter telling Stannis that Robert's children weren't his own.
All the loose ends makes us ask "What will happen next?" and continue watching. After L's death there wasn't really any loose ends we knew about. Sure the Task Force was still there, but they were pretty useless and never posed a threat to Light the way L did. There was Watari who had pressed a button, which did make us wonder what would happen, but not that much.
Overall, what Death Note should have done is show us L interacting with Near and Mello, either in scenes when he is all alone without Light or the Task Force anywhere near him or through flashbacks. The interactions could happen through a computer with his L symbol, making the focus be more on Near and Mello or he could actually have met them and tested their skills through conversations with them.
[Spoilers for all of GoT follow]
I see where you're coming from and Ned Stark's death was also an excellent on-screen death, but I do think there's something to be said for not having any of those loose threads. For one it made L's death genuinely surprising in a way that not even Ned Stark's death was - it felt like the series had to end, that there was no where else for it to go and it engendered genuine shock (at least for me when I first watched it, I can't speak for anyone else). Ned Stark's death was also a surprise, but it felt like that was an option beforehand whereas I genuinely found it hard to believe that L was dead.
I also thought that Light's laser focus on L was reflected in how his death was handled as well - because Light only cared about L (and to a certain extent only continued to care about L even after his death) I think it might have felt a little unnatural to introduce Near and Mello during the Yotsuba arc and downright absurd in the first arc. Perhaps an episode might have fit between the conclusion of the Yotsuba arc and L's death, but I'm inclined to think that may have undercut the shock of his death just a little.
Admittedly I come from this perspective as someone that might prefer novelty over other narrative approaches - stuff like the Walking Dead and the later seasons of GoT have plots that reveal the underlying formulas they are written by, which I can't stand - see Jon Snow's multiple would be deaths where not once did I believe he was actually dead in a series where death is supposedly quick to arrive because of the narrative setup for those 'deaths'. In S1 if Jon Snow was dragged under icy water I would have believed he was dead, but because of the narrative that lead up to his being dragged under instead of feeling anxious for the character I was just angry the writers thought they could pull cheap tricks like that (see also Arya and Sansa from the same season, and Jaime miraculously pulled from a deep river in full armour. Actually just see all of season 7). So while I think you'd be right in arguing that Ned's death was better set up in the narrative so GoT didn't lose viewers I personally prefer a narrative that almost entirely lacks that set up - even if it floundered a little in the following episodes as a result.
Oh, and if you'd be so kind as to edit your comment with a spoiler warning for GoT that'd be fantastic - spoilers for Death Note are totally fine of course, but I hate the idea of an unrelated show being spoiled in a context where people wouldn't reasonably expect those spoilers :)
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Oh I agree with you that L's death did come to me as a shock and only after his death could I see the prebuild up where he had predicted his own death, the way he stands in the rain and the parallel to Jesus washing Judas' feet with him washing Light's feet. Perhaps it was his "Looks like everything worked out" comment that threw me off guard.
However, the problem for me with there being no loose ends was that it felt more natural to end the story right there than to continue with new characters who we never seen before and don't care about. The only reason I kept watching was because of a sense of obligation to see where it ended. Had there been more loose ends, people would have had more reason to continue watching because these would be loose ends Light did not know about which would make it even more interesting.
I think season 7of GOT really exposes the creators of the show as being incabable of proper story telling. The only reason they ever did good was because, except on a few occasions, followed the books to the letter. Once they ran out of source material, they showed how they know next to nothing about intrigue, medieval warfare or how to make an audience care about a character.
The reason I still use Game of Thrones as a good example of how to kill off your main character without losing the audience interest, is because in the early seasons they managed very well to have good characters previously established take up the toarch after the main character died and because we were so pissed off at the bad guys that we wanted to see them die.
The latter part is what had me still invested in the Death Note series, but since the characters to continue L's fight were totally new who I did not care for, it was not as fun watching.
The thing is also that there still was one loose end anyway, namely Watari pressing the button, but it did not tell us what it was and to introduce two completely new characters was a really poor way of doing it if they really wanted to continue investment.
If there had been some previous introduction to Near and Mello to the audience maybe by showing L's interaction with them, either personal or he could simply send them stuff about the Kira case to them through his computer and see how they analysed it, thus tieing them to the Kira case. Even a simple mention of them between L and Watari, would have made their introduction much more natural and made them seem like their own characters instead if discount L. I still think L's death would have been as meaningful.
I know this is not a perfect analogy because L is much more secretive, but imagine if we had never been introduced to Robb Stark before. He had never been mentioned or seen and then right after Ned's death he is introduced. A lot of people probably would not have liked him because of them seeing him as a discount Ned Stark, which is what many saw Near as being.
They actually did something like that in the second half of the Re-Light special! It's about L talking to the kids at Wammy's house, and in my opinion it gives a lot more context to the introduction of Near and Mellow!
@@cawareyoudoin7379 But that's the thing, it didn't happen during the series. Waiting until after L died to mention Wammy house just makes it seem like "Okay, the foil to our protagonist is gone. Time to think of a new one". If they had mentioned Wammy house before, it would have made it more like Mello and Near succeeding L was planned since before L died. And unlike a lot of people, I actually really liked Near and Mello but I do see why a lot of people don't like their introduction and why a lot of people think they're (mostly Near) L clones. And I do believe some of this animosity towards them would have been lessened if L or Watari had brought them up before. L even says to Light that he could probably succeed him and makes no mention of the dozens of kids being trained for that specific purpose. Death Note is amazingly written but Wammy house just seemed like an ass pull to me
@@dsimi415 Oh, I absolutely agree the scene was not enough to properly foreshadow/introduce them. It was just better than the alternative-nothing. Near and Mello are characters that make me malcontented, because they have so so much potential, which in my opinion was simply wasted. I see what people mean by the "clones" too- they were originally meant to be his children, (which, yeah, I see why the creator decided against it). I actually think Near's similarity to him is too much to ignore, and that they might have been brothers for example- but didn't know or care enough to find out.
You deserve much better. Your content is beyond excelent, you basically helped me understand why i used to hold this series in a pedestal without even knowing exactly why
Love the visualisation of the conflicts you made, makes it a lot easier to comprehend :)
Just saw your sub count, what how ?? *subs immediately*
Misa is a potential light,if Light's character was more on the lighter side.Instead we have a megalomaniac genius bent on murdering all criminals.His lack of emotions also explains his cruel actions and shows that he has no sympathy or care,for even people that offer them to him gladly.Essentially Misa is fodder for light's character,which is why it makes people pity her.She is an anima,for whom even 2 Death Gods died for,which adds more irony to the whole show.
Hi all!
This one is a little rough around the edges thanks to a series of technical issues.
Some of them come down to my own mistakes in the preparation stage and others were issues that are either beyond my knowledge or simply failures on the part of my editing program.
Whatever the reason, the result was very little sleep, 5 failed 40 minute+ renders, 2 failed 5 minute+ renders, 1 project that would crash every time I tried to change the audio levels of a particular clip and the ever lovely morning surprise that I had to re-render and then re-upload that video with changes after the first upload was caught by the copyright ID bots. All in all I'd say those issues added at least another 10 hours on to the time it took to make this video.
Suffice to say I'm pretty glad it's over, so sorry about the small issues you'll see from time to time in this one, I just didn't have the energy to go back to fix them after all that.
I also apologise for butchering the pronunciation of pretty much every character's name. I did try, but I had trouble getting it right, especially saying Soichiro as many times as I did.
Anyway, I hope you can enjoy this video all the same :)
Cheers, have a good one!
[Edit] ...And I've got that lovely yellow symbol. Great. imgur.com/gallery/R0bul
[Edit the second] ...and it's gone? Don't know why UA-cam does that, but I guess I'm not going to complain
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Ι'm speechless... This makes so much sense and justifies how "Death Note" has made such an impact so as to be discussed even after all these years. Great Job!!
Aw, thanks so much!
wow you went really went in depth with this one, your intro is a little too long but the video very substantive. You're doing great work here, you've gained a subscriber my friend!
Cultural Curfew Cheers! Haha, the intro is definitely way too long, it's a bit of a problem I have whenever I'm working with music and imagery I really like, as I was in this instance.
That intro was one of the last things I did in making this video, and it's typically the part where I have the most fun, so apologies if it was too self-indulgent.
Cultural Curfew
*Cheers*
pff, the intro was dope. Love the soundtrack
Love this video its really interesting how you analyze the conflicts between many of these characters that many of us already loved
I hate that people always shit on The mello and near ark. They were What was needed to catch Kira. Mellos sacrifice is brilliant and near isn't a bad character, people just Care too much for L to let go
Odin Forfang Near is shit
Actually, it has to do more with the sudden drop in writing quality.
Which is why N is mostly guessing and grasping at straws and nothing as brilliant as Light's transfer plan or L's initial maneuver was repeated.
Sardonicus
Also L and Light had a very interesting ethical contrast representing two different interpretations of justice while N and M have nothing going on...
It's not just that the second season did not have L, it also didn't have Light... no, really, think about it, consider the character we are presented with; not very smart and unforgivable "evil", and whether or not you can relate him with the Light of season one That shrewd cunning, ambitious but still in his own sense moral genius, a person arrogant but not stupidly so, who used his charisma as much as his wits. This is not character development, this is a cartoonish distortion meant to crowbar in "moral repercussions".
@R Parker
Your opinion is your own, but from a technical perspective the presentation of character as well as their personality within the narrative and it's relation to the series theme is entirely different between L and N,M; the first being on entirely different level of excellence, the second lackluster at best.
N did not just execute a plan, he had to reason deduce and intuit quite a lot, only he was doing it by guesswork rather than sound reasoning, which rather greatly diminished the value of the story.
I honestly cannot see anyone rooting for Light in any way besides the morally uninformed interest associated with anti-heroes. His proposed world order was an ultra-authoritarian terror regime with the right of godhood, something humanity has, and in some places still does experience, and it has never looked pretty.
Considering a better solution, why not just leave the story there? Light won, story done, the rest is up to the viewer to think over and consider.
I would be interested in a sequel that maintains the themes and quality of the original, but the Relight issue stinks of obligation.
Now Light has to be comically evil and his character and all that he represented must be thrown away and a tragic story about his basically flawed worldview boiled down to "He is evil, just look at him smile, hear his evil laugh".
But no, the story just *has* to end with the bad guy dead because apparently we are watching damn Disney.
Again, I'm not complaining about him dying, but about how poorly it was done and with so little consideration for his character and the story he was part in. For the shake of comparison, Breaking Bad managed a much more fitting ending that involved the death of an anti-hero after a moment of high-action in isolation.
I just thought they were a bit too out of nowhere and unbelievable.
I think perhaps what could've allowed for the Mellow/Near arc to be a little more successful would be if it had been introduced slightly earlier in the series (not sure how they'd do this though)
Yeah, it's hard to imagine how they'd do it without even slightly hinting at L's death (beyond just, he's participating in a life-and-death battle).
If Light would have just left Rey Penber alone he would have been fine.
Rey even said right before the bus incident "Just a normal teenager, anyways, this will be my last day [doing this]"
I believe, much like in ep 2, lights impatience/quick cutting to his desired end is what got him super investigated.
Also im the only person in this world that loves Near, hey lol.
You really understand the beauty of the writing and story telling so well I have to watch you all your videos on here
Amazing how this is still my favorite anime of all time and that dub my god amazing stuff
Meh, I liked Misa, sure, fanservice is annoying but her character being all bubbly and dumb is a good contrast with most serious faces here
its all an act..or should i say built up feelings after lying to herself for so long after he parents died waiting to be truely happy knowing their killer is dead and others are being hunted as we speak..so you gotta remember that...she suppressed all happiness and put on a front for years...light makes her actually happy.....
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What makes Death Note special to me is that it has a great animation style and amazing concept. I mean, the animation is unusual and different i suppose. Most anime i tend to see replicate the same style, the same cliche (some that are good because of that cliche). For example, DBZ, Naruto, My Hero Academia are very different but when i watch them, they seem to be relevant in terms of how they do things. Death Note gave me a new feel of Morals, like "Is Light good if he punishes the bad?" "Is L really the bad guy here?" "Is Light insane or driven through his beliefs and the weight of being the only one he trusts to put forth his will". The cat and mouse scenario along with a detective trying to solve murders despite what little evidence to go off of due to the supernatural ability of the Death Note. With that said, i have only one issue with Death Note and that was Naomi Misora. I listened to the point in the video about her help in conflict and consequence but i can't help but still feel like her part was rushed. If she was introduced as "The Agent that had helped L", i would have no issues and thought it to be fine. But the show proceeded to be like "Naomi Misora is a great detective who's capablities at what she does make her special. The show had her see what Raye Penbar could not, to consider that possiblity. The compliments and talk between her and Raye put her on a pedestal of intellectual ability in these type of cases. Not that i was expecting her to be the L type of intellect but the show was basically telling me "No worries, Light will either have to work harder or find a way to counter her unlike others". But she proceeded to mess up when Light arrived. I watched the scene and how Light ended the conversation when he thought he had her name. He then proceeded to follow her. The anime makes it obvious that she is staring behind her as she keeps her head forward, giving a sense to the audience (or me atleast) that she is atleast abit suspicious that Light is following her. Not to mention he told her his name and broke the rule of telling his name to her because he trusted her with no reason besides to get friendly with her. Instead of Light putting her in a situation that would force her to reveal her name or backing off and working a way to...lets say, communicate to her as if he was L and lower her guard to get her name. Something like that would have complimented how she was bested agaisnt Wits. But instead, the show throws all the praise and backstory to her intellect and kills her off. She knew the only thing that would kill her is to reveal her name but she proceeded to give it to a stranger who followed her, showed alot of trust in her for no reason, and had no other task member to back up his statement. It seems too...out of charcter. Even if it was planned and i'm just seeing to shallow. Watching that part seemed to have so much potiential but seemed to be like "Hmmm, We need someone to die thats not a random person so we can keep interest" or if they just cut her short to lessen the length. I don't think either is the case but, ahhhh i dunno
Death Note is special for me because, including everything else, it asks a good known question: does the goal justifies means to achieve it? And, for me it seems like yes, it does at a certain extend. Light as a Kira representation had 2 major flaws, that ultimately made his deeds to stay in a bad light. That is 1) the necessity of a conflict to make the show compelling to audience, and 2) The fact that for the 1st reason to be, Light had to be immatured in his judgements and actions. I am speaking about Lind L. Taylor and Ray Penber's deaths. The major conflict between Light and L would not begin and remained only as a conflict between L and Kira, if Light would not crack, if he would stayed to his own code that he developed in the 1st episode. He could've just said "well, L, You may foolishly consider My deeds crimes, but here, let me show you, how the world's face will change in 3... 2... 1..." and just keep killing criminals, regardless of what others think about him. Thus, L would be left without a definitive proof of Kira's location in Kanto region of Japan. And the same deal was with Ray Penber. If it would not be to Light's anxious desire to control his surroundings, he would've just layed down for a bit, to get Penber off of his tail. Hell, Penber himself said right before following Light to that tramway, where he was forced to reveal his name to Light, that "this will be the last day of Me checking on this guy. I've got nothing on him." But it was no luck.
I think that part of what made it special is that the conflict by itself is exceedingly captivating, and that the author went way harder than he needed to in making the actual plot super engaging, basically it was better than it had any right to be, that being said nothing exists after episode 26 :)
The intro to this video is so good!!
Thanks!
17:34 - 17:52 The main reason I ACHE for a good adaptation of death note. The show's a masterpiece (almost at least), the narrative, the composition, the cniematography (or however it's called in animation), but it has this things that while I watched made me cringe, or just feel plain awkward, but I went through it because I am somewhat used to this anime tropes and weird japanese stuff, but this same things keep many people away from the series, and I wish I could share it with everyone I know, because I am sure that beyond that stuff, and also to some people the sheer fact of it being anime, they'd absolutely love it.
Very well done video, you deserve way more subscribers
I watched Death Note as a teenager years ago, shortly after it'd first been released in the US (and then I binge watched the entire series with fansubs) and I remember how intense it made me feel.
But I couldn't remember if that was from the actual story itself, or just because Light was top husbando for me at the time....after Sasuke of course. (Yeah, insult my tastes, I can take it)
As a writer myself now, after having your video randomly recommended to me, I realize I should rewatch it at some point. It was a stellar series.
I couldn't HELP but binging on it because each episode had me wanting more answers to the conflicts that were set up and wanting to see just what would happen next!
You do a good job of illustrating how that worked. Great video OP don't know how it doesn't have more views!
Berry Tears Cheers! The first time watching Death Note is definitely a pretty memorable viewing experience for me too, the collection of grainy, low resolution videos with inconsistent audio (sometimes english dubs, sometimes original Japanese with fansubs of varying quality) a friend gave me (I've since bought the DVDs as I do with any media I really love) still hold a prominent place in my memory, I absolutely loved that first experience with the show.
You really didn’t need to flip the image around, this is totally fair use
In a perfect world - yeah, I wouldn't - but in this one I do. Unfortunately my fair use doesn't matter to the copyright holders, and they know people like me can't go to court to defend videos like this. It's not malicious or anything - they probably go through hundreds of absolutely-not-fair-use videos every day and don't have the time or patience to assess my defence and video when I dispute their claim, or they have blanket orders to disallow anything. Only one removed their claim after I disputed it, but that's not something I think is likely to happen most of the time.
So as it is I really do have to flip or otherwise alter the images I show to avoid the copyright id bots - when they come across matching footage they automatically file a claim / perform a set action and typically have particular restrictions placed on your video. Sometimes they take all your revenue and leave it up - if those were the claims I usually faced I'd be fine with it (the money I make from these videos is usually measured in cents, not dollars - my most recent video took around 35-40 hours and I've seen just over 80 Australian cents for that work so far. I don't make videos for the money.) but the ones I've been receiving have done a lot more than that - one left my most popular video unavailable to anyone except those in Canada, another made one unavailable world wide, and all of them so far were taking any money I earned on top of that.
Flipping the clips is the method I've found to be most reliable without being as obtrusive or annoying as other methods, so it's the one I'm stuck with. Even then I had to reupload this one with tweaks after it was flagged, adding another hour+ of work + rendering and uploading time, so now I flip all film / TV footage and err on the side of shorter clips in an attempt to avoid those flags.
10 min. Your establishing your self still.
Light found the deathnote as a result he dies.
The layering illustration for plot threads is very informative, but I was curious about the other threads and how to show them. Those that are more sporadic in their appearence but still make significant impact when they do show up. My thought, instead of simple rectangles, maybe use lines of variable width. That way we can see a plot threads size in each episode while still acknowledging their unresolvedness when they are dormant over a few episodes. It might seem overtly complicated but I think it would illustrate the dance of threads keeping each episode jam packed with content.
jmalmsten That's not a bad idea, although for Death Note it probably would have been pretty tricky.
This sort of presentation is likely something I'll return to if I cover a series as a whole, so I really appreciate the suggestion :)
You're right, D.N. is really special!
Finally someone who appreciates naomi Misoras abs lights meet up more!
:) It was a fantastic and devastating moment
@@VARIOUShorses it was the only moment that got me hooked on to the show when light even taunted her that was the moment when it made me choose light justice over L
Death note was my very first ever anime, even before I began watching DBZ or any of the big three at the time.
It pretty much gave me somewhat unrealistic expectations for most shows I watched afterwards...
I almost stopped watching death note after L’s death, now I really like Near
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L's death was heart breaking but they just moved right on which is to me BULLSHIT.
They could off made a whole episode based on an emotional Funeral for L the conflict between The Task Force and The Police and Kira ( Because at this point Light is gone ) telling the rest he dose not know if he should stay with The Task Force or leave to find Kira himself pretending to still be Light when really he's thinking off the freedom he is going to have as Kira.
But nope.
To me it's still an epic show even after L but they could off handled his death and the result off it better in my opinion.
I don't think an emotional post-death episode would make much sense. He wasn't that bonded to anyone still alive and Death Note is a series centered around and dense with plot.
If Kira took the eye deal he would of more likely lived longer than he did. He could of killed L sooner. But still he's legendary to pull off as much as he did for as long as he did.
If I found the death note i would of tried to use it to make myself rich. The moment police suspected these events were connected to a human. I would of cooled off it for a bit.
But kira baited himself early on anyways especially with mass murder. What criminals do to other people ain't my concern.
That editing is fire
I hope an alternate version of Death Note gets made where Naomi Misora and L don't die. Maybe Naomi could hook up with Matsuda because they both know how it feels to be underestimated and dismissed (see Naomi's interactions with Raye). Everybody treats Matsuda like he's a useless dipshit. But he has a knack for coming through when a split-instant reaction is needed, that's one thing I think is cool about him. Too bad he wasn't walking by on the sidewalk that day. He would have struck up a conversation with Light, goofily introduced himself to Naomi, and unwittingly thrown everything off. That's my drive-by fanfiction, thanks for reading.
Take a shot everytime he says 'Confilct'
I would strongly disagree that L’s death was unceremonious
4:02 "L is baeb" yes he is
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Just....just everything with misa
I watch death note like how I watch infinity war through the villains perspective light is the villain/protagonist of the story. What started out as good intentions soon were replaced with ego and pride corrupting him light does these things because he believes this is the only way society can have a better future but when people like L, near,mello, ray penber and his wife naomi misora challenge him and his ideals he goes out of his way to get rid of them to prove his superiority of his intelligence and beliefs showing us that criminals aren't the only ones who should fear light but "non believers" also as a way of putting it in perspective because of his god complex.
Naomi Misora's death, or more specifically, how it was handled is actually kind of.... insulting? I'm not sure about the word for it but it definitely felt off for her character. She was an FBI agent, a 27 year old woman who'd been able to catch one of L's rogue successors. She figured out that Kira can kill with more than just one way.
Then she doesn't do the most basic thing when your trying to contact someone: give them your contact information. Light's hole reason of following her, is that he's waiting to see if his father will pick up- of course this won't happen. But, she doesn't pick up. She would have been following the cases and it's not to far to assume that someone who only was an agent for barely more than a year yet was able to become the *best* in that time, that she'd know the possibility of Kira being a student. Not only that, but someone that her husband was tailing, so a student. Why couldn't normal police do this? Because the police have a leak, hence Rey even being called in to investigate. So, she meets a boy who's around the age they think Kira is, who's the son of the chief of police who is intelligent enough to remind her of L.... and then she spills everything to a complete stranger, then she ends up in a situation he puts her in where she needs to give him her ID. If she had an ounce of the intelligence she is written to have in that moment, she would have simply given Light a code, like "LABB, remember me, NM." Along with her number, and L would have known. Yes, she was grieving the death of her fiance, but this would have debately sealed the threat of Kira. Her name would be her life, something to guard. Her husband died because Kira found out his name. Naomi Misora was careless, insultingly so, and given how the other female characters are written.... I can only think the reason her death was handled this way is because she is a woman.
They could have written her to, instead be the sister or daughter OR NOT AN FBI AGENT fiance then she could have STILL been intelligent to figure it out, BUT not being an FBI agent and just a civilian would have ensured she wouldn't have the experience to notice Light's obviously suspicious behavior. I say daughter or someone Light's age, because then it would be more excusable. But, it's like that HAD to make her an FBI agent because she's a woman, and no woman would have ever been able to figure anything out, but the FBI agent thing let's her. Like, think of how differently Rey, L, and any male character that's introduced as intelligent is handled, vs any female character introduced. It's subtle misogyny for me, honestly. He could have still killed her at some point using a different method, or maybe Naomi could have been just a teenage girl in over her head, not unlike Misa, instead of a reputable FBI agent.
I see what you mean. I think I heard something about the writer of the manga intending for her to be a bigger character, but couldn't see how the story could continue if she got her information to L and had to sort of rush to kill her before she could, but I do agree that it seems a bit out of character for her to let down her guard around anyone that wasn't L in that moment, even if she was grieving.
Then there's the creepy way Light seems to relish and enjoy killing her in a way he didn't seem to enjoy killing any of his male, non-criminal, victims that really makes me uncomfortable. I always read him to be written as a misogynist, but arguably the whole show and presumably the manga has issues in that regard that extend beyond Light as a character.
Lol this is why this show ain’t for women. They get mad that Light’s a misogynist and uses women for tools before he kills em off.
@@VARIOUShorses Light’s a misogynist and it’s one of the best things about him imo.
Matsuda feels like one of the shonen, (ish) types of characters, lets make a comparison, so at the arc where Near is closing in on Light, Aizawa started getting suspicous, and makes a what if Kira is Light scenario while Matsuda easily rejects that notion, and is confident that light would never do such a thing, by the final episode, when Light is revealed to be Kira, Aizawa and the others are shocked but accepts it nonetheless, but Matsuda on the other hand, snaps because he is faced with the reality, that Light (someone he looks up to) is a serial killer, Shooting Light unhesitantly at the process, the parallels that i'm going to reference is a scene in Hunter x Hunter (2011). When Neferpitou captures Kite, Gon gets angry, so angry that Killua had to knock him out to stop him from making a bad move. When Gon awakes Killua is guilty upon himself saying he made the wrong choice (doubting Kite's strength) , but Gon rejects it believing that Kite is still alive (Overconfident of Kite's strength), (noticing the parallels?) . When they finally find out that Kite is dead, Killua reacts rationally, shocked but calm eitherway, while Gon is furious by the fact that they would easily kill someone in a snap, despite the fact that they would otherwise not do the same for people they can use or care about, Facing the truth is hard for these 2 characters (Matsuda and Gon). Killua is Aizawa, Matsuda is Gon, The idea i'm pointing out here is that Matsuda has a very Shonen approach to things, kind of like how Naruto,Goku and other Shonen protagonists would approach things, where they're inherently ignorant, but can only display their intelligence during serious situations, By serious i mean situations that have something particularly at risk like in a fight. This is one of the aspects i love about Death note, Each character has individuality that can be distinguished easily and is compelling how unique they are to each other.
So I'm just gonna attempt listing all the major conflicts that are present during the second part of the series. Why? Because why not, it's fun.
-Light VS Near VS Mello (for the entire part of the series)
-Soichiro's Inner Conflict (detective / father split)
-Soichiro VS Mello (the new one to challenge the detective / father split, he is L's successor after all)
-Sidoh trying to get his notebook back
-Matsuda's Inner Conflict (pro-Kira / anti-Kira split)
-Halle's Inner Conflict??? (helping Mello / selling him out to Near??)
-SPK VS Mello
-Near VS Task Force
-Aizawa's Inner Conflict (helping Light / helping Near)
-Kira followers VS Kira's ideals (the attack at SPK, Sakura TV, etc)
-Aizawa VS Light
-Mikami VS Light's ideals
-Near VS Light (the entire personal "battle of pride" that's been brought up since chapter 89)
-Misa VS Takada
-Near VS Mikami(?)
-Light's ideals VS Near's ideals
-Matsuda's Inner Conflict (liking Light and hating on Near or not)
A lot of these are things I put on the list forcefully (Halle's inner conflict, SPK VS Mello, Near VS Mikami), or were very short-lived (Mikami VS Light's ideals, the last two). There aren't many conflicts in Part II...
Halle doesn't really have an inner conflict so much as a conflict of interest. She's pretty clear, personally, that any enemy of Kira is her friend. But she can't expect the SPK as a whole to see things that way. (ESPECIALLY not in the manga. You anime-only people have no idea of the insanity you're missing.)
Mello was the one who was competitive towards Near, hell, even Near wanted to work with Mello since the very beginning, but Mello didn’t agree, so Light’s capture was not the consequence of the conflict between Near and Mello, in fact, it came when both decided to work together, even if it meant Mello would die
That's true. Part of the reason I didn't want to go into the last third of the series was the conflicts weren't as easy to map, when I said that Near and Mello's conflict between each other is the real reason they were interested in catching Kira I oversimplified, and as you point out Near and Mello have different motivations. I still don't think they were actually interested in catching Kira, that it was more of a prove-myself-worthy-of-L's-role thing for Mello, and a cold solve-the-puzzle thing for Near, motivations which in my eyes still drive them to finally catch Kira even after they cooperate, but I glossed over that in this video.
Great video ! Keep up the good work !
Cheers!
I wish I knew about this amazing anime sooner. I was only 7 when it started though.
great vid! u've earned a new sub
Just like the series, your content is timeless. Thank you ^-^
Aw, thanks!
this video does death note justice.
High praise indeed! Thanks :)
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I think Misa was handled very well, she brings a much needed contrast into the show.
In my opinion, you can also argue that the death penalty and prisons are evil as they cause people pain/suffering. If killing people or forcing them against their will is evil then the modern justice system is also evil. This is something that keeps me thinking at night, as it shows everyone as an immoral character in one way or another. All I can say is, I hope people realize this and make changes to the modern justice system, there's already too many living creatures suffering.
To a certain extent I would agree, though evil might be a bit too strong for me when it comes to prisons - reform should be the goal, not punishment - but yeah, the death penalty is pretty much evil in my eyes. In the case of Death Note what I think we saw was not so much a condemnation of the death penalty as much as it was of the idea anyone can really have the right to make the decision to enact it, and a look at what kind of person would think they did have that right.
If you're interested in the topic of the death penalty I highly recommend this video from Shaun ua-cam.com/video/L30_hfuZoQ8/v-deo.html It's 40+ minutes, but really interesting, and it slowly dismantles a lot of the arguments for the death penalty in a way that's both thorough and educational.
@@VARIOUShorses Look up the definition of Evil. Evil means immoral, so yeah, technically the modern justice system is evil and requires changes. The way criminals are treated feels Medieval to me, though that's my opinion. Thanks for the links BTW, also this video you made was good
you deserve so many more subs
the intro was sick as hell
If they only foreshadowed Near and Mello properly, it would've been bearable
Everyone’s writing paragraphs in the comments section
L dying is not perfect? thats how this world works... nothing is perfect and nothing goes the way u want it too mostly which makes his death not a misstake but perfect! it came so sudden and without warning like the real world
I'm really confused as to why you think I say anything negative about L's death in this video, I have nothing bad to say about his death, describe it explicitly as 'the perfect on-screen death' and have praised it in reply to other comments.
I don't know why you think otherwise but I loved L's death, I suggest watching the first half of the video again as I do make it pretty clear what I think about his death and how it was handled.
U didnt i just said his death was very realistic hahaha not every comment is for the creator :P
I mean how was that not clear? When u said around 6min or so it was perfect....🙄
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No, the only reason why Kira lost and died was because of Mikami’s mistake
Mikami made a perfectly reasonable move. Think of Mikami's situation, your god has told you he cannot make any moves, you're the only one who can access the real Death Note, and Takada needs to die asap or it's game over. At this point, the only logical solution is to go to the real notebook and kill Takada. So, it was Light's mistake for simply not informing Mikami of him having a snippet of the notebook; "never take out the real notebook" is not something that would normally apply to emergencies, and that, without a real justification ("I have a snippet of the notebook so don't take out the notebook, ever, because should there be any emergency, I've got it under control") just does not suffice, especially for someone who acts as independently as Mikami does.
Now one might say, going to the real notebook when you know you are being followed is riskier than killing Takada. And here's where the manga comes in. Matsuda proposes a theory there that Near used the notebook to control Mikami's actions during the warehouse, so there's reason to believe Mikami _did_ tear out a page of the notebook when he went to the bank (considering he's intelligent enough to do that), but Near prevented that by controlling him.
Sad the near and Mello arc had 50% of their content wiped from the anime.
What is justice? Who could imagine this question can binge us upto 37 episodes and still failed to give answer but a small open ending!I think this question opened many doors than closing doors
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Interesting.
personally I wish the writers had given a little bit more to misas character. the only time we ever really get to see what this situation has done to her as a human is when she commits suicide, whereas I think that scene within itself would have had more impact if they had taken her as a character more seriously throughout. at a certain point she pretty much just becomes comic relief and a tool for light, but I think they could've given her a little more emotional depth. I honestly feel like exploring her more would have been interesting. also I think that she was sort of dulled down as the show went on. maybe its just because she was much less relevant in the end, but I feel like she was less silly in the beginning.
I could see her character being more developed and more time spent on her character, but I think they'd have to first rectify a lot of the traits that defined her in the version we got - especially how tied to Light she is (in both a narrative and emotional sense).
If she had more screen time as is I think she'd be an underwhelming character at best given how little development she sees during the whole run of the narrative. I do agree she's worse at the end than at the beginning, but I don't think there was much to work with at the beginning either.
0:03 ooooooo I did the sad
Trust me Death Note is special;D
this video turns something really cool into something not so really cool...
15:35 why DN ends at episode 25
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Nice one ^^
I liked the OG live action films, way better than Netflix
I want to believe that Misa has legitimate and meaningful conflicts and consequences in the story, but her personal conflicts always struck me as being immature and lacking depth.
Though, it is worth noting that I don't sympathize one bit with people who seem to find deeper meaning in romantic conflicts that aren't so much about relationship building and dynamics than they are simply about wanting to be in a romantic relationship with a person solely out of idolization, completely ignoring questions of compatibility and who the person really is.
And then... the character's fanservice-y nature and how terribly she's treated by the rest of the cast, especially when she's captured... I never understood why taking it to _that_ degree was necessary within the show's context, and I feel people need to talk about it more and how much of a problem it is, since it really is nothing more than uncomfortably extreme titillation for the perverts in the audience, all at the expense of the show's intellectual integrity.
With my perceived lack of meaning in her conflicts, combined with her being used for comic relief and fanservice taken too far, I unfortunately fail to see what her place is in the show apart from being a plot device. I don't want to think this way, but I haven't been able to find any concrete means to justify Misa's mediocre characterization.
And unfortunately, having a prominent character being such a painfully two-dimensional stereotype is the sole obstacle in the way of me more readily recommending Death Note to others - especially non-anime fans that would be more put off by characters like her out of a lack of familiarity on the common problems endemic to anime.
Yep. Obviously some others in the comments feel differently (much to my surprise) but I don't like Misa at all.
To my taste she only offers the worst of anime which is a shame in a series that otherwise is a great show to recommend to newcomers.
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_Precisely._
Glad to know I'm not the only one with this sentiment.
Does anyone know the name of the song at 9:21 please ?
That's Gymnopedie no. 1, composed by Alfred Eric Leslie Satie - I used the Kevin Macleod version because it's free and royalty free.
@@VARIOUShorses Holy, didnt expect the god himself to answer, thank you so much :D
@@carlossantos04 Haha, I'm no god, just up late on UA-cam haha. Glad I could help :)
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Light did nothing wrong
episodes 1-25 is the best part while the rest seems pointless and out of pace
Stopped watching when it became apparent you have some bias against Misa
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This video really lacks focus and depth and was difficult to sit through. I would recommend that next time you choose one conflict and focus in on it or a cluster of related conflicts.
Fair enough, my aim wasn't to actually look at the individual conflicts I discussed, but rather how each stacks on top of others or influences the next, but I can see where you're coming from.
Man your points are fine but my god if i hear you say conflict one more time I’m gonna report you 😭
Hahaha, yeah... I felt the same way when I was editing it :)
Ok
Look i'm not necessarilly criticizing you, but i'll say it I didn't understand what you were talking about for 90% of the video.
Then why did you comment lol? If you didn't understand, at least try to comprehend what he's saying instead of ignorantly dismissing what he's saying
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