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BETTER FIND SOME CLOVERS! A Selection of Drivers who had Bad Luck in their Careers
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2023
- There's this thing going round now that Leclerc is the unluckiest driver in history. He's probably the most unlucky in living memory, but there are others that have come before.
And while I'd love to mention every single one here, there's just not the time, so I've picked five who have had some pretty horrid luck, not necessarily saying they've had WORSE luck than Leclerc but some of the stuff that's happened to them has been pretty unlucky, has to be said.
Who else is there? Let me know!
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Heineken’s 0% beer is worse than Budweiser’s and that’s saying something. Pironi’s is where it’s at.
Not an ad, obvs.
U mean Peroni, surely?
It's so sad, so many good Dutch beers, but Heineken is the only big one internationally...
All 0% alcohol tastes like a 3 year old open beer
All 0% beer is horrible from my experience.
It's not 0% but Small Beer Brew Co. do some low alcohol (below 2.8%) brews that taste decent.
If we are talking NASCAR drivers then arguably Mark Martin takes the cake.
Losing the 1990 Championship by 26 points after a 46 point penalty for a technical infringement early in the season, having one of thr greatest seasons in the modern era in 1998 only for Jeff Gordon to do the exact same and turning the dominance up to 13, losing the 2007 Daytona 500 in a photo finish, and once again finishing 2nd in the 2009 Cup series Championship at age 50.
The Sterling Moss of NASCAR. The best driver to have not won a championship.
Thank you, I just pointed out the same thing. Mark Martin is the unluckiest driver in NASCAR history and it really isn’t close. The 2007 Daytona 500 was a microcosm for his entire career.
@@robertnewland8358Nah that’s Junior Johnson for me
Same as they did to Michael Waltrip driving for DEA, Dale Jr. used the same equipment, cheated, but only busted Mike?
Denny Hamlin is closing in on Mark if not have overtaken him already in stats. Jerry Nadeau was unlucky when it came to losing in the final laps.
In 2021 Russian driver Irina Sidorkova raced in W Series. She was the only driver that season to contract covid. The last race of that season was at COTA. She applied for a US visa at the beginning of the year, it didn’t arrive until a month after the race had taken place. But on the plus side it was good for multiple years so she could just use it next year right? Well the morning of the first day of winter testing was the day Russia invaded Ukraine. And she’s told she’s not allowed to compete that year. But even if that hadn’t happened 2022 was the year W Series folded midway through the season. Now that’s some bad luck!
To clarify Dale Earnhardt’s win total, it’s one of the highest totals of all time, only surpassed by 7 other drivers such as Richard Petty, Cale Yarborough, Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson. Basically one of the best drivers of the modern era
Richard Perry and Cale Yarbrough had significantly more starts. During their time period there were significantly more races; there were weekday races included in that count.
Richard Petty has 200 wins.
I'm not a KB fan but that was his race win. He was cradle robbed
In terms of nascar. I’d say mark Martin was far more unlucky then Dale.
@@taichanieI mean, Mark Martin's career was almost ruined in his rookie year because of a bad sponsorship deal, he also had the bad luck of having Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and Tony Stewart
@patrickracer43 every time Mark Martin had the best season of his career somebody else had an even better season.
Chris Amon was unlucky - the most famous incident being the 1971 Italian GP where he was leading by miles and tried to remove a tearoff from his visor leading to the whole visor coming off and being overtaken as a result by the Gethin /Cevert /Peterson /Hailwood /Ganley pack. But he made quite a few questionable career decisions. Forming his own team being one of them - apparently he insisted on so many safety features on the car that it was too heavy to be competitive.
Amon did have a decent run with Ensign in his final year in 1976, but passing Lauda's accident killed his desire for racing. He said "When you've driven past Bandini, Schlesser, Courage and Williamson, seeing another one of those was too much."
There was also the 1968 Canadian Grand Prix where Amon's Ferrari dominated the race, only to be sidelined with gearbox trouble late in the race.
Many years later, when Amon was asked about his luckless years in F1 racing, supposedly he answered that he considered himself lucky as he survived into retirement.
The 1972 French GP at Clermont-Ferrand was another race Amon could easily have won. He started from an easy pole and lead commandingly for half of the race. So was he finally going to win his first grand prix? No, unfortunately he hit a small rock which caused a puncture (this was apparently fairly common at Clermont-Ferrand) and he had to limp around the track to pit for new tires. That wasn't the end of it for the pit stop was an even bigger disaster.
"It was a comedy pitstop. The wheel jammed and I was in the pits for a minute and a half or so." - Chris Amon
He rejoined in 9th place almost a full lap behind the leader Jackie Stewart. Being really upset that an easy win was yet again taken from him due to bad luck he drove like a fury and lapped faster and faster. On the 32nd lap Amon shattered the fastest lap record and managed a 2 min 53,9 second lap, which was 1,9 seconds faster than race leader Jackie Stewart's fastest lap of 2 min 55,8 seconds.
Amon's fastest lap in the race was just 0,2 seconds slower than his pole time.
Here's what Amon himself said about the final laps of the race:"From that point I just went for it. I drove as quickly as I could and I lapped almost as quickly as my pole time. I managed to pass Francois Cevert [Tyrrell 002] and Ronnie Peterson [March 721G] on the same lap, which I was quite pleased about.
With one lap to go I was eight or so seconds behind Emerson Fittipaldi [Lotus 72D] and I ended up four seconds behind in third. One more lap and I'd have got past him. I was 30 seconds behind Jackie at the end - I'd taken a minute or so out of him."
Many claim this was Amon's greatest drive. Motorsport magazine claims that if the race had been 10 laps longer Amon might have won despite the puncture and pit stop debacle.
Oh yeah absolutely, was about to talk about him myself but forgot his name
Nothing wrong with a top 10. You'll get more casual viewers but us long term viewers still appreciate your broad and in depth knowledge of racing and we know you're not gonna stop the regular content.
Earnhardt’s win percentage prior to 1998 was roughly 12.2%, which means that for every eight times he got in the car, he was expected to carry it to victory lane once. Which is insane.
Even crazier is Earnhardt wasn't a front-runner, meaning he didn't have many pole positions or high starting positions in general A true "grinder", Dale's average finishing position was significantly higher than his average starting position, the opposite of every other top NASCAR driver.
Sainz's horrid luck continued as he moved on to the Dakar rally. He was once leading and crashed into a dry river that wasn't properly indicated in the maps, iirc.
Still managed to win it in 2020 at the age of 57.
Living in Indianapolis in the 80s and 90s, I lost track of how many times I heard Tom Carnegie's voice over the loudspeaker say, "Mario is slowing down" during the 500.
Those are the four most famous words in Indianapolis.
I saw a meme with that on. Then it had some cartoon character underneath saying “do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?!”
One of the weirdest story of luck (or lack thereof) was of Ugo Sivocci. The guy was extremely unlucky, seemed to be forever second because of whatever bad luck befell him during the race. One day he and his Alfa teammates decided to try painting a green four-leaf clover over a white square to his car, hoping it'll bring some luck. It did, for some reason, giving Alfa Romeo its first race win in Targa Florio of 1923.
A few months later he tried a new Alfa car, and because the bodywork isn't as simple as his old RL it does not receive the four-leaf clover graphic. He crashed and died. As a way to commemorate Ugo, the 4 corners of the square, representing Sivocci, Antonio Ascari, Enzo Ferrari and Giulio Masetti, was changed into a triangle with four-leaf clover, aka. Cloverleaf. In Italian they called it _Quadrifoglio Verde_ , and is now the symbol for Alfa's fastest, sportiest car in their line-up. Think Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde and Stelvio Quadrifoglio Verde
Giulia Cloverleaf just does not have the same ring to it, does it?
In the UK they actually did use Cloverleaf for a time, on the 33 and 145. Possibly others too, I haven't checked.
Always thought it a little odd; if someone would even consider an Alfa, given their reputation at the time, it seems unlikely they would be put off by a 'foreign' trim name.
Jackie Stewart said of Chris Amon that if he'd ever found the right car , many drivers would not have had the success they enjoyed . Incidently , he did win twice in F1 , unfortunately neither counted towards championship points . The International Trophy in 1970 and the Argentinian GP in 1971 .
Chris Amon - If he became an undertaker people would stop dying
Amon makes Leclerc look like Max XD
People are calling Lando Norris the new (British) Chris Amon.@@AidanMillward . I hope that doesn't stick.
Here in Italy Leclerc is labeled as the new Jean Alesi.
There's another version. De Cesaris had a failure whilst going well in a race, and once he'd got back to the pits, remarked to Mansell, who had also gone out earlier, and I quote verbatim here - "Jesus, Nigel, if I became a pastry chef, everyone would go on a bloody diet!" 😅
As quoted by.Mario Andretti.
Honorable mention is Davey Allison. Having the crashes he had while racing was insane and to lose his life in that helicopter crash unfortunately cast a dark cloud over that family
Looking back at Davey, there is no doubt he would have been a multiple-time champion.
@@AndyFromBeavertonit got even more ominous when his replacement, Ernie Irvan, was running neck and neck with Dale Earnhardt in the 1994 championship standings, only to crash, nearly d1e, and never be the same again.
I'd add his father Bobby too, couldn't win a championship until 1983, won a race but became of bogus rules don't officially count it, had a near deadly accident and can't remember parts of his racing career, says his 1988 Daytona 500 win is like a movie to him because he can't remember it, lost BOTH of his sons within a year.
@@polycube868and Davey’s brother Clifford was also k1lled in a racing accident.
The Indy version of the bad luck Allisons is the Bettenhausen family. The father, Tony Sr., was a perennial contender at Indy but never won and was killed there in a gruesome practice crash. Son Merle had one arm torn off in a sprint car crash, son Gary was partially paralyzed in another crash, and Tony Jr. and his wife were killed in a plane crash.
Glenn Seton is another. Won two Australian Touring Car Championships and came so close to winning Bathurst in 1995, but a valve spring broke and the car eventually just stopped on the top of the mountain, which made his engine builder (his dad - former winner Bo Seton) leave the team to work for Dick Johnson. Or in the Sierra days, the turbo blew up. And for his last Bathurst start, the clutch let go on mountain straight while Mark Skaife was driving and ended up with a Perkins Commodore up its arse because Jack Perkins had nowhere to go so Glenn didn’t even get a chance to drive in the race.
You beat me to it.
Dale Earnhardt's latter career teammate Mike Skinner fits on this list. He won two exhibition races in Japan, but never won a points race. I can vividly remember the 2000 Atlanta spring race when he dominated the event (leading 191 laps) before his engine failed with 20 to go. Another Formula One driver who should be mentioned is Nick Heidfeld, who achieved 13 podiums and 8 runner-up finishes without a victory.
Nuts thing as well in regard to what you were saying about Amon is the number of wins he would of had without mechanical retirements from the lead is... 13.
Chris Amon: It's showtime
As a retired simracer who spent a number of years in a league with some truly world class simracing legend drivers, I can honestly appreciate that just making a podium can be a career changer and highlight. As to your list for today, I think Amon had it right, just surviving the 60's and even 70's as an F1 driver was amazing luck
With Dale Earnhardt, he won almost everything in the leadup to the Daytona 500 (won multiple Daytona duels, Busch Clashes and the Xfinity series race, never entered the ARCA race, Goodys Dash race or the Truck Series race, and only entered the 2001 24 hour race)... Also the thing with the $50 seems to be a stock car driver thing as I saw a video of Tony Stewart almost getting someone in accounting at Joe Gibbs Racing fired because they gave him a $50 bill
EARNHARDT!!! That "receiving line" on pit lane after Dale won the 599 was amazing and something I'd never seen before or since!
Even though he did end up getting a championship Kimi Raikkonen in the mclaren days was pretty unlucky. He could have had 2 with them
Can we appreciate how mind blowing old liveries could be? That Sauber could really make new fans' jaw drop (myself included).
Chris Amon. Edit - Yes! So glad you included him. It would be impossible to have a list without him.
When it comes to Indianapolis maybe the most famous bad luck name is Lloyd Ruby. Many times he was one of the strongest runners in the race only to see one misfortune after another strike him down. And if you say, "Well, what about Mario?", at least Mario did managed to win it once, and he won that at the expense of Ruby, who lost his chance in a botched late race pit stop. Also, when JFK's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, was famously shot down a couple of days later by Jack Ruby, at least one radio station came on the air and announced Oswald's shooter as Lloyd Ruby. I know because I've heard the tape.
Michael Waltrip. 400+ starts without a win. His friend Dale Earnhardt Sr hires him to drive the 15 car for Dale Earnhardt Inc for the 2001 season. Michael wins his first race, the Daytona 500, while his boss is killed on the last lap. To this day Michael says its the worst day of his life.
Brother DW had luck like Earnhardt at Daytona. He won tons of races, won championships but couldn't win the Daytona 500 for many years. Then he finally did win, but only that one in, what? 30 tries?
DW commenting his brothers first win, to see him almost break down in tears, to then see Dale’s horrible crash and gasp hoping is alright went from proud brother moment to terrible anxiety.
This is the best one I could find.
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Michael Andretti despite all his wins only managed to win a single indycar championship, not to mention his indy 500 luck (or lack thereof)
That Sainz 1998 story is a bit off, nobody overboosted anything, atleast not on purpose.
Carlos was going full throttle as usual but constantly short shifting to use lower revs - this created unexpected stresses in the powerplant since with forced induction, making lots of boost down low in the rev range punishes an engine more (the components of the rotating assembly literally spend longer periods of time under extreme loads). Most likely, TMG had never tested the engine in this manner and the boost mapping that was fine for normal operation (when you only occasionally pass through that rev range on full throttle) was too much for the rotating assembly to handle when you're constantly on full throttle in that rev range.
Hence the word “believed” being used.
@@AidanMillward Didn't hear "believed"... though "people think" was in there, yes.
The Daytona 500 has a unique lead-up week that includes two qualifying races (one for each half of the field); on top of this, the 500 is only one of two points races held at the track. It has to be emphasized that Earnhardt won all of these other races, as well as the undercard lower-level races over the years, multiple times, as well as multiple races at the not-quite-identical track Talladega. For him to fail to win the 500 for as long as he did, being considered more or less the master of the track itself, was what made that record so remarkable. And we can't forget that this is the race that took his life on the last lap in 2001.
As a disclaimer, no one in my family liked the guy, so seeing him come so close and failing year after year was one of the highlights of an otherwise-frustrating race for us.
I was thinking about dale earnhardt in the Andretti curse Video a lot. His Daytona 500 curse after so many other Daytona victories and the way he died the moment his son got his first. Probably the biggest racing curse in my opinion
Dale Jr. didn't win the 2001 Daytona 500, it was his Teammate Michael Waltrip.
Ah then I had a mixup. Thank you
The lucky penny is still on the car. And that racing over 500 miles cost rowdy a win this year. which I still haven’t got over
I personally HATE green-white-checkered finishes and wish they would get rid of them.
I agree and stage racing.
All the green white checkered encourages is someone to do something stupid… see harvick at daga
9:43
No pun intended?!
"He'd lost the title 200 metres from the 'Fin(n)ish'!?"
Any driver with 30 or more wins in Nascar are greats, but over 50 are elites and in a league of their own
Quite right, luck is a matter of perspective. Max Mosley's brief racing F2 career started at Hockenheim the day Jimmy was killed. He survived the killer years. So do you suppose he was saying to himself "Remember Max, you survived the killer years" while his whole humiliating scandal boke in the tabloids? Suppose not.
He then killed himself when the cancer he had turned out to only give him a couple of weeks to live. Crazy.
@@AidanMillward I'm an old man (74) so I understand....not the whole BDSM N*Z* thing. The cancer and choose your own exit thing
I think Amon (always a favourite of mine) did win an F1 race, Argentina '71, but that was when there were races that did not count for the World Championship. I liked his attitude, that at least he survived. Oh, and regarding Mario Andretti, how about 1982 when he could not even start two of the biggest races, Indy and LeMans, through no fault of his?
Did a video on the Andretti curse a week or so ago that’s why I didn’t mention him
How about a „Every motorsports Stirling Moss“. Aka a guy who was always great but never won a title like Helio Castroneves, Mark Martin, Dani Pedrosa, Mikko Hirvonen and thierry Neuville
15:00 still the most beautiful F1 car ever made, in my opinion.
Second only to the MP4-4 and FW14B
Most overrated livery ever
I would listen to 2 hours of you dude! Racing podcast deep dives would legit.
Hulkenberg will soon overtake Andrea for most races without a win as he's only 5 starts behind (8 races entered overall)
At least Andrea de Cesaris managed 5 podiums. Which isn't too shabby for a driver who retired from 71% of all races he started and mostly drove uncompetitive cars.
First thought was Steve Soper who lost a BTCC title and Bathurst 1000 due to technical infringements.
“Technical infringements”. Eggenberger was caught flat out cheating in 1987.
Great video. You could do several of these as to not forgot the guy someone thought of! 😂
That's what the comments are for, get the next list names.
Wrestling Bios does it to great effect, and it keeps the punters happy.
Look, I will be honest it is a lot harder to win a lot of NASCAR Cup series races than in other racing disaplines. Getting 5 to 8 wins in a season is a vary good one. And getting more then 8 is what I would say is all time season.
Getting 10 in a season in the 21st century has only been done twice.
Andrea's 1987 is insane - he never actually made the flag all season. His podium in Spa was due to being so far ahead of 4th place.
I’ll add that Dale Earnhardt won 30-something races at Daytona, but only one being the 500. The 1997 moment was part of his genius where he was thinking of the points because Winston Cup used a season-long format like F1 still does. Dale also took Sonoma and Watkins Glen seriously which helped his championship fortunes. Other unlucky NASCAR drivers to look at are Mark Martin (no titles, 500’s, but many 2nd places in both, and winning IROC many times), Jerry Nadeau (2001 Atlanta loss, 2002 Sonoma loss, 2003 career ending crash), and Denny Hamlin (no championships, but many wins and 3 Daytona 500’s).
Grrr... I want to assert my racing knowledge superiority by complaining that you missed (insert unreasonably obscure driver here) and hearby claiming that you are a (insert popular driver here) fanboy. Oh and thanks for countless hours of free content 😉
Jamie Whincup at Bathurst in his later career is one. (I'm a big Bathurst fan)
I mean, 2011, he suffered a battery issue about mid-way through the race. 2013, while battling with Mark Winterbottom for the win, he lost out after making a small mistake at turn 2. 2014, trying to play the hero (that's my personal head canon), running out of fuel from the race lead, on the last lap, ultimately finishing 5th. 2015, passing the safety car. 2016, making a passing attempt on Scott McLaughlin and bumping him, causing a multi car crash after attempting a readdress, costing himself, McLaughlin and Garth Tander their races.
And just this past race 2022, his car, driven by Broc Feeney, the gearbox failed.
How many of you remember Dale Earnhardt immediately failing post race spoiler tech on pit road after that race? It was around 6° under the minimum of 45°. I even remember the tech guy flipping out because his spoiler was so far under the acceptable angle. Then another official came over, knocked the Tech tool off is car, pulled the tech guy away and told Dale to drive on, most likely averting the biggest riot in Florida history.
obligatory comment "i cant believe you didnt mention..." but rubens barrichello retiring from 9 brazilian grand prixs in a row!
There's another Brazilian driver who must be worth a mention too.
Kimi Raikkonen at Mclaren. Between 2002-2006, he retired due to reliability issues 39 out of 87 races entered. Compared to chief rivals, The Michael 3 times and Alonso 8 times in the same period. A number of those retirements coming from the lead and certain victory as well.
He could have left Mclaren with 22 wins (which is more than his career total of 21) instead of 9 and 2 more world championships.
To rub salt in the wound, after he left, there wouldn't be another Mclaren reliability issue for another *32 races*
Ironically it was Mclaren who helped Kimi win the title with Ferrari after they basically imploded in 2007.
Nicola Larini - the awkward first podiums club. Since joined by Tiago Montiero and George Russell - and only George went on to get another. Nigel Mansell probably counts as another (Zolder 1981 was a sad tale all the way through).
Just to add to the sense of bad luck Earnhardt had in the Daytona 500 compared to his talent on the track type: this man won every single Daytona 500 qualifying race he was in during the 90s. He won repeatedly in the preseason exhibition race at the track, the summer race at the track, the second-tier series' races at the track, and at the only other track with similar racing characteristics, Talladega. He was so good at this form of racing that his competitors credited him with the ability to "see the air" as their explanation for it. Yet it took him 20 years to finally win his 500.
Also, you may have mentioned it but I missed it if so, but one of his losses was due to hitting a seagull while driving down the backstetch in the lead late in the race, and another he blew a tire while leading on the last lap, going into the last set of turns. That man's bad luck at Daytona knew no bounds, and could even be credited with taking his life (a topic I appreciated you touching on at the end of the video)
Amon won the !970 Interatioal Trophy at Silvestons and possibly could have won ar Spa that year but waited for Rodriguez's BRM to ingest (whichwas expected). As for the missed wims for Matra, now that was damn poor luck
if we are talking about win% Dale isn't even top 10 . King Richard is only 4th (200 wins in 1184 starts, 16.89%) Top dog in that is Herb Thomas (48 wins, 229 starts, 20.96%) speaking only nascar so we are clear.
Chris Amon could win everywhere. Le Mans, the Tasman Series, non-championship F1 races ... but he just could never crack it for an actual GP win.
JPM had an awful lot of bad luck. He retired from the lead of the race countless times. And the jet dryer incident. How unlucky do you have to be for that kind of thing to happen to you?
Mad props for the Simon Miller reference.
Between Sainz Sr. And Alonso, it seems like championship #3 likes to elude the spanish in motorsport.
random grand prix that i found and think is cool 1: the 1970 isreal gp for formula 2, lots of stuff went down.
Earnhardt's bad luck at the Dayton 500 was in sharp contrast to his utter dominance at Daytona & Talladega during the restrictor plate era in all other races besides the Daytona 500 specifically. Including all races, Dale finished top-5 in over half of his restrictor plate race starts, winning over half of his top-5 finishes, meaning he won over 25% of his starts at Daytona & Talladega, an unparalleled and virtually unapproachable record going forward ... yet somehow the Daytona 500 eluded Dale all but once. Statistically, Dale should have won at least 4 Daytona 500s if not more..
nice video, very interesting and good points made about what defines bad luck
Simon Miller! What a legend!
If everyone were like him, the IWC would be a beautiful place.
Funnily enough, the closest Andrea de Cesaris would come to winning a GP would be at Spa, twice. In 1983 he and his Alfa Romeo 183T proved to be the fastest combo on track in the first half of the race and he led from the start (twice actually as the race got re-started). Like the Ford V8 would in 1991 though, the Alfa V8 turbo went bang on Andrea at lap 25 (of 40). But most agreed that had he finished, he's likely have actually won.
To Chris Amon's credit:.He win at Le Mans, Daytona (24 hours),and the 1969 Tasman Series.He was a good test driver,too.
Imo Mark Martin is one of the unluckiest drivers of all time. None of his career moves in Nascar were bad, and he was competitive even in his old age. He nearly won the Daytona 500 and Nascar championship multiple times, only to come 2nd largely due to bad luck.
There are some that say that the kiwis paid for Lemans 1966.
-U10
My favorite Sir Jackie quote to this day is something along the lines of "Back in those days Racing was dangerous but sex was safe...Because the AIDS hadn't arrived yet". Legend.
I miss the racing from late 80s to 90s The Sound !!!!!!!!!!
At least Nascar still sounds relatively the same. F1 and Champ cars at Indy had the scream
A change of pace never hurts anyone
13:05 - I know exactly what this means, and I feel bad, but for a second I genuinely just considered that perhaps imola is just a miserable place and italians were being mean
Loved the WhatCulture Wrestling reference! 😂
Mention of @Simon Miller. Nice.
Good job it was Adam Blumpier, despite his brilliant delivery on videos.
List videos are great for stimulating comments, feeding the algorithm, and boosting engagement.
Roberto Moreno rules.
Could argue that Dale never really got over the bad luck at Daytona. He won in 98 and was killed in the last turn of the last lap of the Daytona 500 in 2001.
2001 was actually his worst year at Daytona, with the obvious death being the worst of it, but he didn't win anything leading up to the 500 as he didn't win the pole (Dodge brought literal bullets in that 2001 Intrepid), didn't win his Duel race, didn't win the Bud Shootout, didn't even enter the Xfinity, Trucks or ARCA races and finished 4th overall in the 2001 Rolex 24 at Daytona
Steve Park has to one for bad luck. He was never going to be one of the greatest NASCAR Cup Series drivers, but he should have done better. Severe injury in 1998. First win at Watkins Glen after. 2001. Loses his boss and friend then gets his second and final win the week after at Rockingham. Then at Darlington suffers from a freak accident and is severely injured again. Then in 2003 or 2004 suffers another severe injury from a Truck Series wreck in Atlanta.
5:50 no one really knows where the “$50 bills are bad luck” thing is from. Some other bad luck anti-charms in American racing are green cars, car numbers that look the same upside down as right side up (0, 88, etc), and peanut shells.
I always figured it was because Ulysses Grant is on the $50; he was the commanding general that led to the Union victory over the Confederacy in the American Civil War. As a good portion of the South still hearken back to that war, I can understand how having a portrait of the man who defeated the South would be considered unlucky.
I think the green thing needs to be retired. I can think of more successful cars with green then I can without them
@@KR1736yeah it’s definitely faded away. But up until the early 80s you could get ejected from a team’s garage for wearing a green shirt.
The peanut shells one is still around though.
@@mrterp04 oh yeah I believe it. I remember a story about AJ Foyt almost hitting one of his mechanics for the peanut shells
Simon from What Culture reference...
Nice.
Nigel Mansell definitely had more than his fair share of bad luck.
I was in Montreal in 1991, near the S/F line. I'll never forget that day!
He did with the CART title with a broken freakin’ back tho.
@@AidanMillwardhe certainly did!! The only man to be F1 World Champion and Indycar Champion at the same time. My favourite racing driver ever.
that rock smack by tommi in 98 was due to an oil spill from a car running ahead
Try being a Jean Alesi fan; any time he was doing well (which was actually quite often), you stopped getting excited anymore and expected his car to break down, which it usually would. Also often ended up in the right team at *just* the wrong time; joining Benetton a year too late, leaving Sauber a year too early, joining Jordan 2 years too late.
Then there's the lesser known fact that he had connections with McLaren-Mercedes only at the end of his career for 2002 when he'd already decided he'd been in F1 long enough and a bit too old for it then. If only McLaren had signed Alesi for 1996 alongside Hakkinen instead of that annoying Scottish guy who just can't not pollute F1 commentary with sensationalist takes.
Coulthard was better than a lot of people would admit.
@@AidanMillward Yeah he had his moments I suppose. I'd say he's a Jenson Button/Nick Heidfeld/Valterri Bottas tier driver.
It has to be said it's hard to give the guy credit when all he does is talk rubbish every other week much like Jacques Villeneuve or Nico Rosberg.
It's almost as if Sky Sports linked him his Channel 4 commentary role as a means to say "you miss Martin Brundle's intelligent, insightful, and balanced commentary? Fuck you, pay me" 🤣
If Canada 95 hadn't gone his way, he'd have over 30 podiums without a single win, when the actual record is only 13(!), then you have all those races where he came 2nd and nothing happened to the eventual winner
Hitting seagull was the wildest. He lost every way you can
I saw that 98 Daytona 500 winning car and had photos of that penny. I'm a Sr fan and Schumacher and Max fan too
I started watching racing in 1990 with Senna😊
Tbf even some of the most successful drivers have been unlucky at times
Raise hell and praise Dale! Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Gone, but not forgotten. This man wasn't anything flashy. He was just himself, possibly to a fault. I've always respected that. Real. We miss ya, Dale.
Being himself in a way became his undoing. Modified seatbelts and open face helmet with a “I’ve crashed hundreds of times and I’ve been fine” attitude. Scary how it all ended.
@@AidanMillward shame that. Stubbornness is a scary thing.
I'm feeling warm and fuzzy in my tum-tum
Hulkenberg is on the verge of taking de Cesaris' "most entries without a win" record.
Which begs the question - is he unlucky, or just crap?
You want bad luck? Jim Clark. Easiest driver on a car, but mechanical failures and other odd events cost him three World Championships and 2 Indy 500 wins.
5 race wins doesn't sound unlucky to me. That's the social media age for you, Charlie Banker's the only person some have ever known to suffer because they see it every week. Never winning but coming close fits the bill for me, like Amon, Teo Fabi or Nick Heidfeld. Heidfeld carrying his failure to win on to Formula E is really frustrating. Thanks, Nico Prost.
That first record of De Cesaris will be broken soon by Nico Hulkenberg. So, how's replacing Mick going, then, Guenther? 🤣
How many Haas chassis has Hulk written off?
Mark Martin (number of times he finished NASCAR seasons in second yet never won the championship himself)
I mean Helmuth Koinigg was pretty unlucky and so was Tom Pryce. 😮
Koinigg and Cevert died from pretty much the same lack of safety standards on the SAME circuit! Only that Koinigg's death was nothing but a grim side-note, due to his lesser success in the sport.
Pretty much any driver that has ever been killed while racing can qualify as unlucky.
As a big Shadow and Tom Pryce fan at the time i would say tom and Bruce McLaren both had unnecessary bad luck.... with Clark and Pironi comming close
DE#3, wish we'd have seen him in an open wheeler.
btw @AidanMillward you seem like a guy i'd be sitting around a firepit with having beers talkin all racing with.
Tennis is one sport where luck is specially important, I think.
Glen Seton at Bathurst would be Australia's unluckiest.
Earnhardt's son won Daytona 500 3/4 times in his racing career but never won the championship , but won the smaller catergory .
Safi Z threw his racing helmet through the rear window in anger when he found out he'd lost to Makkinnen
Dale Jr won the 500 twice but he also won the 400 mile race multiple times.
Parnelli Jones? When a bearing cost the Indy 500, that seems like a bad lucky one...
I would have included Lloyd Ruby.
Nicola Larini is famous for holding up Jacques at Jerez in 1997 - What engine is in the back of that Sauber, Murray?
It's also interesting that most of the crashes that got Andrea fired from Ligier must have been in Practice or Qualifying as during his Ligier days he would only crash four times. Nico Hulkenberg can break his record for most starts without a win next year
He would only crash four times in races
That was Norbert Fontana
@@AidanMillward Yes you were right, sorry. There were too many Sauber drivers that year!
steve park.... should do a video on him if you haven't
Roberto..... Guerrero....
The fact that Dale Earnhardt is on this list but Mark Martin is not, is a massive miss on your part, Aidan. You needed to hear it.
I think it was Frank Gardener who said, "I never planned on being the fastest racing driver, but I did plan on being the oldest."
De Cesaris could've won the 1982 Monaco GP but for being out of fuel. Still classified third obviously due to Patrese bump starting his Brabham and getting over the line. What could've been. (I also truly empathise with commentators who had to tell the difference between a McLaren and an Alfa at this time because Christ that's hell)
That last point you’re completely right, it was so confusing to have two cars with the exact same livery on poor resolution TVs at the time must have been a right pain
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 the 1998 Ferrari and Williams say hi. 🤣
I often think this year's Haas and Alpha Tauri were a bit too similar for comfort, also the 2021 Mercedes and Aston Martin (especially in night races where the Aston Martin looked dark indeed). But modern resolution is way way better than 1982!