Folks, thank you so much for watching! It means the world to me so many people are apart of this channel! Just a quick reminder that there is still a lot of scammers pretending to be me in the comments. Any comments claiming you’ve one a giveaway or a prize of some sort is NOT ME. God bless you all!!!
I love your videos Richard! I like all your different techniques and how you keep it simple. I also love how many daiwa reels you use, I got a bunch of them and they are so smooth. You remind me of fishin with my old man. Keep it up sir!
Yea so Ive been catchin a ton of crappies on neon pink trout magnets. Two best colors for me right now have been pink and gold. Hope that helps someone reading this because it’s been awesome for me.
Richard, like your videos. Been fishing crappie and other fish for over 50 years, and still tune in when find out about a fishing video. Have fished Fla to Washington State, Montana to Nm and Texas, as well as point in between. Still find things that catch my interest. Only really have one problem, as live in SW NM. It is not catching crappie, can do that. The problem is turned wife on to eating crappie 5 years ago. Then she turned her then 4 yr. old granddaughter onto eating them. Now they dont want to share. I can eat the other fish but leave the crappie alone.
Hello sir from Ohio. I don’t usually subscribe to many channels at all, but your channel, and this video in particular, got me to click the subscribe button and hit the thumbs up quicker than I ever have any other channel. This is some really great advice here. And believe it or not more fisherman overlook this technique than you could believe. At least more than are willing to admit it 😂. It’s not only because the crappie will at certain times absolutely crush worms, but it also shows a technique that can be extremely productive when anything and everything will just not work. It’s a great technique especially in heavily pressured and overly fished areas. I also use it to land very finicky monster red ears and those bull bluegills. I use it sometimes with micro baits as well when the majority of the folks just aren’t catching ‘em. A great technique with worms, crickets, grubs, and even leeches. There’s a lot of folks in the comment section that are saying things like “Well no crap worms are good for catching fish” and that “crappies feed on anything when their schooled up and hungry” and that may be true. But try this technique when everyone else isn’t catching them left and right. That’s when this technique will absolutely work the best given the right bait on the end of your line. And I have to add that I absolutely loved your perspective and your take on how we have become so reliant on technology and the fact that common sense isn’t needed in a lot of the things we do today. So much of the simple way of life and not overthinking everything we do is just not there anymore. I for one miss it badly. This is a very good video with an even better message behind it. Listening to you talk reminds me so much of my father who is saving a spot for me up where the fish are as big as you say they are, and their always biting. I thank you for that! New sub -R.W Ohio
Just went fishin' today here in Gadsden, Alabama and caught several crappie on night crawlers. I thought they were blind crappie...lol. Now I'm watching you talk about fishin' for crappie with worms. WOOOOO!! ROLL TIDE!!! I love your channel Richard Gene.
I was ice fishing on the Canadian border this winter. Tried earthworms for Perch but they wouldn't bite whereas they were going crazy for the white worms, maggots. I think it's because the earthworms were packed with earth and crap all throughout. Perch was just being picky...
Ive caught crappie on worms this week. Ive even caught them in the winter at depths on nightcrawlers. Ive caught crappie on a fly rod. Ive caught them on my bass setups. They’re voracious feeders. Love crappie!
We used to do this when I was a kid. The only problems is that we have so many of the little green sunfish that never get very big that just steal worms that it can become frustrating. They are like little demons that seems to hit before anything else even has a chance. We would literally go through a couple of coffee cans full of worms we dug, just to get a decent mess of bluegill. The only time I fish with worms now, is when bluegill are spawning and they protect their beds and will keep those little brats away, or at least thin them out.
I want to see how you fillet your panfish and I really want to see Mamma Sue's recipes!! I can't wait for the day that a catch and cook video pops up on your feed.
I'm glad you made this video. My wife and I caught a bunch of crappie on worms last year. When we told people about it we just got a funny look from them. God bless my friend and tight lines.
Richard that was probably one of the more unique videos I have seen! Catching crappie on night crawlers! Wow! You were up their like you were teaching a class! Loved it. Catching crappie on night crawlers what technique.
Richard Richard the man the fish whisper I can say of all the tv fishermen shows I would just soon as to watch yours. And I’ve watch watch a ton of them over the years. God bless you.
One time me and my father went fishing at Lake Hartwell in Anderson, SC. He caught some humongous crappie on worms under a bobber! I miss fishing with him. I wish I lived next door to you!
What else can I say except another outstanding vidio! Thanks for another great fishing adventure and comedy to boot! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY from a fellow fisherman from PENNSYLVANIA!
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Your videos are amazing, Congratulations you are a great fisherman!👍🎣🥰 Your fishing was fantastic with beautiful fish. Hug!!!
I’ve used all kind of line fishing for crappie, bluegill, red ear, yellow perch, trout etc. I’ve come full circle and now I use what I started with Berkeley Trilene clear!!!!!
I am semi-retired and new to fishing in a small country town in Wyoming. Last year, I've started purchasing some fishing equipment and only able right now, to fish at 2 local small lakes close to my home. I can only fish by shore and have no boats, etc. Since most of the fish breeds might be: cat fish, crappie, bass, walleye and maybe trout... I'm not sure how well they are stock the lake each year? I currently have 2 spinning reals and a good start of different lures right now. Since I don’t really have to many friends to go fishing all the time... I need to really understand each breed., swimming habits, best type of baits to use and fishing techniques. I came across this first on crappie fishing on UA-cam. I look forward in seeing your other UA-cam channels on other breeds to. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I am also looking forward in April to start fishing again. I had "zero" success last year.
A for sure seasoned fisherman. I love your vids. Esp how you said how we over analyze which I'm so guilty of. Go Richard Gene The Fishing Machine! Thank you for your knowledge!
Thank you for sharing. I was hoping you would have a crappie video using worms. Because i have caught more crappie or all fish using worms way way more then any thing else. God bless you sir and your whole family...🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
I've been going out to my local lake and they built a new pier and alot of people been catching tons of crappie but I'll have the bobby garland crappie lures I'll catch one keeper and won't catch anything else and this older man uses the same lures as I do and he will be catching big crappie I'll use live minnows and I won't get no luck I've been watching your crappie videos and it's been helping me out I've been subscribed to your channel for 5 years now
It's tough fishing at Sylvania I've fished there all my life and I'm 50. You really done something when you catch that many in a day. Love your videos. Keep them coming. God bless you
Great video Richard. I have caught lots of crappie on worms since I was boy. I just recently was telling a good fishing buddy what I was catching them on night crawlers and he couldn’t hardly believe it. God bless you Richard. WOOOOO
Another goodun brother Gene. I've caught Crappie on about everything but a top water rig. I guess if they were hungry enough, they would go after them, too. I still like minnows an small jigs. I love my underspins. Buddy, I hope you have Mamma Sue happy now. I'd sure hate for her to send you back for more, she might put some of them pop knots on yer noggin. Brother, I hope you know how much we enjoy and appreciate these videos. God bless you and your family, brother, and have a blessed day.
Worms are perfect for this, but, there used to be a Lure that Blue Fox used to make, a small, fat, white grub with legs you could pull off, and a short pink skirt. I used to catch a crappie on just about every cast using it on the Kern river. Those were river crappie, white crappies, in fast water, and it was as much fun as catching trout.
Awesome video Richard. I member bluegill fishin with my Grampa n Great aunt n catchin crappi too. Gonna have to give it a shot again this year. Thnx RGTFM for remindin me n lettin me tag along with ya on your adventure, I enjoyed it
When the water got down low here in Texas and I was fishing a dirty water Crappie hole I decided to do your method. I could only get my hands on red wigglers but I hooked them like you said and was catching keeper crappie sure enough. I love when I find a new technique set out to do it and it works like textbook. Only from Richard Gene
Mr. Machine, I was wondering if there is fishing supply companies that support your channel. You champion nikko helgamites a lot. I would like to support your supporters. I really enjoy your channel a lot. Your creek fishing videos using live bait and vintage reels are my favorite. I can’t wait till you start back making the creek videos.
Good video and thanks for taking us along. I'd almost say Richard that you could go deep sea fishing and they would be crappie there waiting on you. Would almost say. Haha. Thank you and God bless you and yours
I get to teach my 11 year old grandson how to bass fish this summer I'm just chomping on the bit but you can just bet we're going to do a whole lot of pan fishing God bless you and yours Richard
Used this method today at my local pond and came away with way more bluegill which is to be expected there, but still had some crappies intermixed as well. Thanks for the tip! I’d love some ideas on how to cast further with weightless rigs! Thanks Richard!
A light action rod will help. I’ve been trying to figure it out too. There’s special light reels that’ll help too. Also line choice plays a big roll braid helping the most. To get the jig out there I’ve been adding a small weighted bobbers. Personally love the white and red ones
Sir you have all the elements in your videos that we find on tv shows. You bless us with legitimate knowledge, sound advice, techniques, direction, suspence, drama, and comedy from the heart at the end of every video And, your passion can be felt through my laptop screen. i look forward to your sense of humor with every video i watch it makes me happy in my heart. thank you thank you thank you. May GOD continue to use you to brighten up peoples day..
Good to see you back at Dekalb… I’ve caught a few on worms before. I guess they’ll feed on whatever falls in front of em… I’ve had a lot of luck on a monkey milk Bobby garland too fishing the edge of the weed beds. Great video Richard, that lake is beautiful.
Theyyyyy Mr. Gene, please show us how you filet those beautiful fish. Now you taught me how to bring em in tthe boat show us how to get em to the belly.
Folks, thank you so much for watching! It means the world to me so many people are apart of this channel! Just a quick reminder that there is still a lot of scammers pretending to be me in the comments. Any comments claiming you’ve one a giveaway or a prize of some sort is NOT ME. God bless you all!!!
Dang! Youre telling me I didnt win your contest 12times? Good ole scammers. 😂
What kind of rod is that ?
You’re a Good Man Gene The Machine
I love your videos Richard! I like all your different techniques and how you keep it simple. I also love how many daiwa reels you use, I got a bunch of them and they are so smooth. You remind me of fishin with my old man. Keep it up sir!
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I think Richard is the most knowledgeable expert on Crappie Fishing I have ever heard in my life!
I remember catching big crappies on worms when l was a kid ,you Richard are by far the best fishermen out there,God bless you and your family.
Yea so Ive been catchin a ton of crappies on neon pink trout magnets. Two best colors for me right now have been pink and gold. Hope that helps someone reading this because it’s been awesome for me.
Richard, like your videos. Been fishing crappie and other fish for over 50 years, and still tune in when find out about a fishing video. Have fished Fla to Washington State, Montana to Nm and Texas, as well as point in between. Still find things that catch my interest. Only really have one problem, as live in SW NM. It is not catching crappie, can do that. The problem is turned wife on to eating crappie 5 years ago. Then she turned her then 4 yr. old granddaughter onto eating them. Now they dont want to share. I can eat the other fish but leave the crappie alone.
Hello sir from Ohio. I don’t usually subscribe to many channels at all, but your channel, and this video in particular, got me to click the subscribe button and hit the thumbs up quicker than I ever have any other channel. This is some really great advice here. And believe it or not more fisherman overlook this technique than you could believe. At least more than are willing to admit it 😂. It’s not only because the crappie will at certain times absolutely crush worms, but it also shows a technique that can be extremely productive when anything and everything will just not work. It’s a great technique especially in heavily pressured and overly fished areas. I also use it to land very finicky monster red ears and those bull bluegills. I use it sometimes with micro baits as well when the majority of the folks just aren’t catching ‘em. A great technique with worms, crickets, grubs, and even leeches. There’s a lot of folks in the comment section that are saying things like “Well no crap worms are good for catching fish” and that “crappies feed on anything when their schooled up and hungry” and that may be true. But try this technique when everyone else isn’t catching them left and right. That’s when this technique will absolutely work the best given the right bait on the end of your line. And I have to add that I absolutely loved your perspective and your take on how we have become so reliant on technology and the fact that common sense isn’t needed in a lot of the things we do today. So much of the simple way of life and not overthinking everything we do is just not there anymore. I for one miss it badly. This is a very good video with an even better message behind it. Listening to you talk reminds me so much of my father who is saving a spot for me up where the fish are as big as you say they are, and their always biting. I thank you for that! New sub -R.W Ohio
Tis live worm season Richard!!!! I caught about 60 Shellcracker on live red worms today at the local lake
Just went fishin' today here in Gadsden, Alabama and caught several crappie on night crawlers. I thought they were blind crappie...lol. Now I'm watching you talk about fishin' for crappie with worms.
WOOOOO!! ROLL TIDE!!!
I love your channel Richard Gene.
often wondered why noone used worms for crappie ,i have caught a lot of crappie with worms-good video-god bless
I was ice fishing on the Canadian border this winter. Tried earthworms for Perch but they wouldn't bite whereas they were going crazy for the white worms, maggots. I think it's because the earthworms were packed with earth and crap all throughout. Perch was just being picky...
Ive caught crappie on worms this week. Ive even caught them in the winter at depths on nightcrawlers. Ive caught crappie on a fly rod. Ive caught them on my bass setups. They’re voracious feeders. Love crappie!
That’s funny because I can’t catch them on anything
Sounds like a Dr.Seuss story...Yess I've caught them
We used to do this when I was a kid. The only problems is that we have so many of the little green sunfish that never get very big that just steal worms that it can become frustrating. They are like little demons that seems to hit before anything else even has a chance. We would literally go through a couple of coffee cans full of worms we dug, just to get a decent mess of bluegill. The only time I fish with worms now, is when bluegill are spawning and they protect their beds and will keep those little brats away, or at least thin them out.
Channel reminds me of the fishing shows I used to watch ask a kid in the 90s simple and to straight to fishing and fishing tip are classic
My 7 year old and I just went out this evening and got about 10 crappie and 15 big bluegills and he caught his first walleye 🎉 he was happy 😁
That’s awesome! I love fishing with my son.
Taking kids fishing and teach them how to fish and catch fish is one of the biggest greatest blessings the Lord has ever allowed me to have
On nightcrawlers?
I want to see how you fillet your panfish and I really want to see Mamma Sue's recipes!! I can't wait for the day that a catch and cook video pops up on your feed.
Brother you are THE Crappie master!!
I'm glad you made this video. My wife and I caught a bunch of crappie on worms last year. When we told people about it we just got a funny look from them. God bless my friend and tight lines.
Richard that was probably one of the more unique videos I have seen! Catching crappie on night crawlers! Wow! You were up their like you were teaching a class! Loved it. Catching crappie on night crawlers what technique.
😂😂😂😂 it’s just another damn worm 🪱 🤦🏿♂️🙌🏿🤷🏿♂️yall making. A big deal outta. Nuthing it’s no secret or special technique… Fish eat worms .. Period 💯
Mr Gene you are the Machine !
I love that you are so honest
This time of the year,Crappy are Happy !
Richard Richard the man the fish whisper I can say of all the tv fishermen shows I would just soon as to watch yours. And I’ve watch watch a ton of them over the years. God bless you.
I need to do some worm fishing.... The classics for sure
One time me and my father went fishing at Lake Hartwell in Anderson, SC. He caught some humongous crappie on worms under a bobber! I miss fishing with him. I wish I lived next door to you!
What else can I say except another outstanding vidio! Thanks for another great fishing adventure and comedy to boot! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY from a fellow fisherman from PENNSYLVANIA!
Your videos are amazing, Congratulations you are a great fisherman!👍🎣🥰
Your fishing was fantastic with beautiful fish.
Hug!!!
This is truly amazing. A few years ago, this only happened for me one evening! Then never again, in the same lake...
You are truly so enjoyable and it’s even better when mama Sue’s with you!!! God bless you
Great stuff Richard! THANKS.
I’ve used all kind of line fishing for crappie, bluegill, red ear, yellow perch, trout etc. I’ve come full circle and now I use what I started with Berkeley Trilene clear!!!!!
Richard you have in my mine the best informative fishin show out there ,god blast an keep fishin.
I just want to say thank you sr you are very informative I really enjoy watching your channel
Canada love your tips and antics. Good fun watching your videos.
I’ve caught some good crappie on worms, glad to see someone else doing it!
Richard you catch some NICE fish.
Young Man, I got excited because I could see and feel your excitement. Thank you Clayton
Thank you sir!!!! I've been fishing 🎣 all my life, &still love you learning &me too!!!! Blessings to you and ALL IN YOUR HEART ❤️
It's always nice to hear something new about fishing, any fishing, that only experience makes it wise. Thank you for the video.
I just wanted to say thanks for all the great shows and the way you teach fokes to fish .hope for many more years of your experience on video .thanks
I am semi-retired and new to fishing in a small country town in Wyoming. Last year, I've started purchasing some fishing equipment and only able right now, to fish at 2 local small lakes close to my home. I can only fish by shore and have no boats, etc. Since most of the fish breeds might be: cat fish, crappie, bass, walleye and maybe trout... I'm not sure how well they are stock the lake each year? I currently have 2 spinning reals and a good start of different lures right now. Since I don’t really have to many friends to go fishing all the time... I need to really understand each breed., swimming habits, best type of baits to use and fishing techniques. I came across this first on crappie fishing on UA-cam. I look forward in seeing your other UA-cam channels on other breeds to. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I am also looking forward in April to start fishing again. I had "zero" success last year.
Richard if you get a chance will you fish a drop shot for bluegills? Thanks! You’re videos are always the best.
Will do
I think bluegills are the best tasting they got little natural spicy to them
Ain't that's something Mr. Gene I only caught one slab off big red and one big blue gill off a crappie minnows
One day before my time is up I’ll get a chance to fish for them again , thanks again for sharing your video
A for sure seasoned fisherman. I love your vids. Esp how you said how we over analyze which I'm so guilty of. Go Richard Gene The Fishing Machine! Thank you for your knowledge!
Thanks again Richard, love your videos.
Oh my goodness. This is the best channel in the world.
Thanks for the new technique of night crawler
You are the GOAT sir.
One of the best fishing shows on I really enjoy watching. It’s just good for you🎣
I've learned so much from watching your videos Mr Fishing Machine! Thank you
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Best fisherman on the internet no doubt...
Thank you for sharing. I was hoping you would have a crappie video using worms. Because i have caught more crappie or all fish using worms way way more then any thing else. God bless you sir and your whole family...🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
I would love to fish with you Mr Gene. Love your videos very informative. Keep them coming. From Kissimmee Florida.
I really enjoy watching your videos. You keep the art of fishing enjoyable to watch! And you teach while doing so… thank you much.
I've been going out to my local lake and they built a new pier and alot of people been catching tons of crappie but I'll have the bobby garland crappie lures I'll catch one keeper and won't catch anything else and this older man uses the same lures as I do and he will be catching big crappie I'll use live minnows and I won't get no luck I've been watching your crappie videos and it's been helping me out I've been subscribed to your channel for 5 years now
I’ve been catching crappies from worms since I was a kid and still does great clips 👍
It's tough fishing at Sylvania I've fished there all my life and I'm 50. You really done something when you catch that many in a day. Love your videos. Keep them coming. God bless you
Great video Richard. I have caught lots of crappie on worms since I was boy. I just recently was telling a good fishing buddy what I was catching them on night crawlers and he couldn’t hardly believe it. God bless you Richard. WOOOOO
Great video Mr. Richard always love watching your videos and learning from your techniques that you share. God bless and tight lines to you 🎣🎣
And yet another way to catch crappie that I've never tried! Awesome video, THANKS and GOD BLESS
Hi Richard - Can you please do a Video on how you Solo your boat in and out of the water?
This is great! Love the fight from a big crappie!
Great eating too
Another goodun brother Gene. I've caught Crappie on about everything but a top water rig. I guess if they were hungry enough, they would go after them, too.
I still like minnows an small jigs. I love my underspins.
Buddy, I hope you have Mamma Sue happy now. I'd sure hate for her to send you back for more, she might put some of them pop knots on yer noggin.
Brother, I hope you know how much we enjoy and appreciate these videos.
God bless you and your family, brother, and have a blessed day.
That's my secret to your right not a lot of people know about the worm trick stay blessed sir
This was awesome! God Bless you Mr. Helms
Worms are perfect for this, but, there used to be a Lure that Blue Fox used to make, a small, fat, white grub with legs you could pull off, and a short pink skirt. I used to catch a crappie on just about every cast using it on the Kern river. Those were river crappie, white crappies, in fast water, and it was as much fun as catching trout.
You got a lot of tools in your box always a treat
Thanks, Richard Gene! It's goooooood FER YOU!
Thank you so much for this video. I'm learning so much from you. I'm going to try your technique this week. God bless you.
great work, ty for the knowledge and Hugs for momma Sue
I was crappie fishing the other day and caught a 45" inch striped bass. So glad I used a paolmar knot!
Love this channel! Just subscribed today and can't stop watching.
Love your vids didn’t know they would bite a night crawler
😀Thank You Richard for the great info and a super video, you are a great teacher!!!
Awesome video Richard. I member bluegill fishin with my Grampa n Great aunt n catchin crappi too. Gonna have to give it a shot again this year. Thnx RGTFM for remindin me n lettin me tag along with ya on your adventure, I enjoyed it
Another good video Richard! Keep up the good work.
When the water got down low here in Texas and I was fishing a dirty water Crappie hole I decided to do your method. I could only get my hands on red wigglers but I hooked them like you said and was catching keeper crappie sure enough. I love when I find a new technique set out to do it and it works like textbook. Only from Richard Gene
Thank you for this video. I have some nightcrawlers in the fridge now and about to go test it out. Even tho it’s much warmer here in south tx
I’m a Florida boy too Richard and we still call em Speckled Perch. I also have a lot of Family in Gadsden Al in your neck of the woods.
Great video! Would be nice to see a video on how you clean your crappie.
That's an interesting Mr Gene. God was surely BLESSED you.THEYYYYYY
Mr. Machine, I was wondering if there is fishing supply companies that support your channel. You champion nikko helgamites a lot. I would like to support your supporters. I really enjoy your channel a lot. Your creek fishing videos using live bait and vintage reels are my favorite. I can’t wait till you start back making the creek videos.
I rename you Richard Gene The Fish whisperer! Truly a professor in his field! ATB
Good video and thanks for taking us along. I'd almost say Richard that you could go deep sea fishing and they would be crappie there waiting on you. Would almost say. Haha. Thank you and God bless you and yours
I get to teach my 11 year old grandson how to bass fish this summer I'm just chomping on the bit but you can just bet we're going to do a whole lot of pan fishing God bless you and yours Richard
Thanks for sharing Your techniques with us.
Thank you for sharing this Richard! You and Elmer always helping me catch some Crappie!
Any fish will eat a worm.
We love you Richard!
Used this method today at my local pond and came away with way more bluegill which is to be expected there, but still had some crappies intermixed as well. Thanks for the tip! I’d love some ideas on how to cast further with weightless rigs! Thanks Richard!
A light action rod will help. I’ve been trying to figure it out too. There’s special light reels that’ll help too. Also line choice plays a big roll braid helping the most. To get the jig out there I’ve been adding a small weighted bobbers. Personally love the white and red ones
I expected nothing less, but great fishing and advise from the Fishing Machine. thank you Richard for all you do.
Sir you have all the elements in your videos that we find on tv shows. You bless us with legitimate knowledge, sound advice, techniques, direction, suspence, drama, and comedy from the heart at the end of every video And, your passion can be felt through my laptop screen. i look forward to your sense of humor with every video i watch it makes me happy in my heart. thank you thank you thank you. May GOD continue to use you to brighten up peoples day..
You made me want to go fishing! Thanks, Gene!
Richard I caught a 17 inch crappie last year fishing for catfish, big nightcrawler on the bottom, so I belive you!
Best fishing channel on youtube
Good to see you back at Dekalb… I’ve caught a few on worms before. I guess they’ll feed on whatever falls in front of em… I’ve had a lot of luck on a monkey milk Bobby garland too fishing the edge of the weed beds. Great video Richard, that lake is beautiful.
Here in southeast Michigan on lake St Clair and Stony creek I have been catching crappie on a worm my whole life. I am 64 years old.
Great teacher you are Richard. Love your videos .
You get a new camera? Much appreciate your work brother!
Enjoy your videos. Maybe another trip with Old Fisherman is in your plans? Also, where can you purchase the Sowbelly Rods?
Hey Richard Jimmy sent me over to check out your channel. I just saw your nickel tour our the Ranch lol
Theyyyyy Mr. Gene, please show us how you filet those beautiful fish. Now you taught me how to bring em in tthe boat show us how to get em to the belly.
Wow..that awesome...did you put the weigh on the line too or just the worm and the hook that all...
Richard Gene the philosophy machine!
Love your videos. Have learned alot from them.