Changing the race and/or gender of a long-standing character is not a "superficial detail". Main characters are the story and when you love a story, you usually don't want to see major changes that serve no purpose other than "LOOK AT US, OUR BRAND CELEBRATES DIVERSITY! NOW YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE RACIST, SEXIST OR HOMOPHOBIC". That is literally the only reason it's done.
Characters do have traits that define them on a fundamental level, but race and gender are rarely among them. Why do people love Peter Parker? Is it his struggle to balance ordinary and superheroic life? His quippy sense of humor? His deep sense of responsibility in the face of overwhelming pressure? Those are some of the traits that make Peter most distinct. Him being white and male are very, very far down that list.
@kasplachproductions6198 So Miles Morales should be white in a live action movie? Miguel O'Hara should be a woman? Part of his character is relatability to the audience. I love Miles not just because that he's a great character but also because he's a BLACK MAN. If they changed him to a woman for no reason I'd be beyond PISSED
@@kasplachproductions6198 your proving his point dude, if it really means nothing for the character to be a different race then when people push back and it costs the company billions of dollars then why keep doing it? simple, in the words of sandrocker, its to say look at us, our brand celebrates diversity! now you cant say we're racist, sexist or homophobic.
It isn't just about race, it's about changing the whole image of the character. Why did Captain Marvel need to be a woman all of a sudden? So they could shoehorn that into an all female hero cast later. It's just pandering to the crowds that have the loudest, whiniest voice in social media. Then the company gets a proverbial pat on the back. The bigger focus is always black vs white, so the point tends to get lost. I don't care about white characters, i'm Nicaraguan. I just don't want all my old favorite stories to change into unrecognizable garbage. Make new stories with diverse casts, i'm all for that.
Oh brother..it’s funny because I wanted to see the “ other” side of the fandom. And everything you said about rings of power you must be blind. Everything from casting to PR - to the actors whose sole purpose was to check a box and be “ the first black female dwarf” or “ I can finally be a black elf in lord of the rings “. It’s people like you who have destroyed so many IPs .
Fair enough, Sophia Nomvete did speak about being the first black female dwarf. But she's just one supporting actress, and even then it was far from the only thing she talked about. It was largely the anti-woke crowd who made her race and gender the focus of the conversation leading into the show. Basically, this happened: ibb.co/jHW7m46
Okay, I've clicked on your video with other expectations (viewing it from my European standpoint), because wokeness sucks really, but not in the way the commenters your video seem like to have a problem with. 😉 The problem for me is NOT, that there are characters that are of different skin color (is that correct Englisch? I'm a foreign speaker), the problem is that they are not fitting to some stories. 4:30 - Okay, here you disqualify yourself, because that dwarf-actress always emphasized that she's the "first black dwarf", and that is one of the parts people got upset about. Because: If we are all equal, what's the matter? Politics in media: Totally cool with that! Agenda-politics in a fiction world invented by a guy, who cannot defend it, because he's dead since the 70's? No, would you like your videos to be miss-used in a hundred years from now, in a matter you didn't meant?
Most people don't care about the skin color of the actors, we care about telling a quality story. Those that defend these movies basically ignore that that's what our issue is and will label us racist or sexist or whatever.
Is Wokeness the problem? Yes that and very bad writing. Disney is a garbage heap and ruin everything they touch. So in my opinion, everyone is allowed to have one, Wokeness is mostly the problem.
My big issue is changing classics to be more woke. Look at Mulan, look at Aladdin. And regarding changing races etc. that’s all nice and dandy but let’s see them do the same by changing a classic black character to a white person. Oh that won’t happen..
Not unless you have the mother of all fortresses because the assault and siege from the far left screaming RACIST! and even handing out death threats will be huge.
It’s the lazy writing which weirdly echos in the real world. The problem isn’t a strong female lead, it’s the puddle deep female lead. If captain marvel was sex swapped to a guy it would still be a poor movie. There’s no arc to any of these strong female lead characters and it kills the narrative. When it comes to the sexuality side, it’s again because that’s all there is about the character. Why can’t the character be bad ass that just happens to be gay? No we get whoa this character is bad ass because they’re gay, it’s lazy but weirdly why punctuated in real life. When it comes to race swapping characters, just why? Going to choose the little mermaid. Why couldn’t we have had Ariel’s sister be the black girl? Why erase the white girl ( or more important to me, the ginger girl) when we could have had an entirely new story in Ariel’s universe? They did it to be deliberately provocative, in order to gain publicity basically hanging out the poor actress out to dry. She didn’t deserve that. They’re are plenty of black story’s to be made, black people have a long diverse culture full of story’s tell one of those, don’t tell a white story with a black person. Lastly. For gods sake don’t make a movie, tell white people it’s not for them and then get pissy when they don’t go see it.
I don’t think you’ll get the response you wanted from this video. Yes wokness is the problem, identity politics, destruction of popular characters. Where have you been the past 10 years as things have got progressively worse?
I was a little let down by this video. by the end of it i was expecting you to dicuss a little more than just the symptoms of the issues plaguing the film & entertainment industry, but unfortunately that didnt happen. People just blame "wokeness" because it's easy to latch onto, seeing as feminism is (in my opinion) a radical shell of its former self. I liked hearing your POV, but I really hope you would look into this more. You seem to only have a surface level understanding (and a small dislike of the drinker)
This is not hard yet many folks have difficulty with. Wokeness in itself does not make a movie bad. But putting writing a “woke” story before writing a “good” story is what makes a movie bad. This is universal. Same can be said for any other “message”. Right or left doesn’t matter. If you are focusing on the “message” rather than the “story”, you reap what you saw. You get a good message and a bad story.
Here's the deal, while activism in film isn't anything new, in fact some of the greatest films of all time were in fact activist movies, such as Gojira (Abuse of atomic power), Alien (Pro-Abortion), and more recently, Zootopia (issues with bias). While these films had powerful messages, it was the characters that had to learn the lesson and not the audience. The films that are being released now have the roles reversed. Activism is at the forefront and because the main character is the activist any disagreement results in you the audience being the "bad guy". Since it was brought up, let's look at Disney's demake of The Little Mermaid. I was a part of a young filmmakers group in 2019 when Disney's casting director announced that they were specifically hunting for a black female to play Ariel. The black film makers in my group were pissed and for good reason. Being black isn't just a color, its a culture and identity. I think The Little Mermaid would have been received different had they told a completely different story with a full on Carrebbean twist. Yet Disney did not do this. There was literally zero reason for them to recast a trademarked character as a different ethnicity just for the sake of doing it. If you look at the arguments against those who oppose this change, it boils down to, "White folk don't think mermaids should be black!" This isn't the point. Nobody other than far-left white liberals, likes it when a well-known trademarked Disney character is race swapped for literally no reason.
dude... identity politics is when you proioritize someone's group identity over someone's individuality. and this is exactly what woke people push and what makes these shows and movies so atrocious. if your priority is someone's race, sexuality and whatnot, this will obviously spil over the entire product. making it sh*t in the process. and it inevitably happens every single time. diversity is a good thing. go for it if you can, but diversity has always been there. there have been people of all races and sexes and sexualities in movies and shows. but it wasnt's the focal point of the show. it was just there and there was basically zero attention brought to it. and that's a good thing. but now? just listen to any actor promoting their woke product. absolutely nobody talks about the story and characters. it always pushes diversity and inclusivity, modern feminism or modern sensibilities. and people dont like then being shoved down their throats even in family movies or cartoons for kids. and yea, the fact that these movies and shows are borderline unwatchable doesnt really help either. make a product that entertains people for a few hours. not something that lectures and demonizes any opposing view, making wokesters the most intolerant people on the planet...
You said it yourself, you see a lot of comments (including millions of views and likes on videos that say this) that say the problem is wokeness. THOSE are the fans of comic book movies saying WHY they're not watching. THAT MEANS that wokeness is indeed the issue.
@@adamnewman1043 No that's not what it means. Wokeness is the obsession with having women, people of color and gay in everything even when it makes zero sense for the story, wokeness is Disney Marvel saying they're aiming for majority female superheroes and end up sacrificing good stories just to achieve that obsession.
@@Ramzeis so you’re implying only straight white men can make a good story? Anything else is a sacrifice of that ambition? Fewer straight whites = worse story?
@@adamnewman1043 It means diversity for diversity's sake at the expense of a quality story. Most people don't care about diverse casts as long as the diversity makes sense in the setting(meaning very few people of color in medieval Europe based stories and very few white people in sub-Saharan African based stories because neither makes sense in those respective settings) and quality story telling.
You do not have a good grasp of the issue you're addressing in this video, there's a reason Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, RK etc get millions of views, its because the masses agree with them. Not the other way around, not because those UA-camrs are driving narratives. You refute yourself in this video, you reference other successful movies which have political and woke ideas but they did not seem to be the main thing and they were written into the movies well. But what's happening lately is that Disney etc are sacrificing good stories for those woke ideas and representation.
@@bringiton2752 if he wants to double down, he should double down on the correct moral high grounds; Disney should have stood by Rian Johnson and the Last Jedi. Pandering to the Toxic fanbase has empowered them, like the Nazis empowered ordinary Germans: Banality of Evil. Yes, it didnt help that Mark Hamill came out to add fuel to the fire.... Incorrect moral high grounds is doing way too many Mary Sue's when the audience is largely male!!!
Great video, though for the sake of your sanity allow me to quote a pro-diversity white man of yore : “You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.” Regardless of whether or not the correlation is true, there are people who want it to be true, and so they will upvote others saying that it is true. And then they will point to those upvotes as "proof of truth". And there's nothing you can do to change their minds.
Wokeness has definitely become a problem in entertainment. However, sometimes I do think people drag every little thing and say it’s woke. Spider Man ATSV was a really good movie but I saw people say they did not like it because there was only 1 white male main character and he was not made to look strong. Issues like this are just extra and not serious at all. I feel like people now look at everything and if even one thing does not align with their traditions and beliefs, it will be considered woke
I don't agree, I think that if that was the only case of a a long established white character looking weak and getting pushed aside for the new minority/female character it wouldn't be a problem at all but its happening all the time and I'll just list a few indiana jones, hulk, thor, doctor strange, antman, the eternals, mandalorian, peter pan, spiderman, hawkeye, and don't even get me started on star wars and that's just off the top of my head, do its not that it happened in this movie in particular, its that its happening everywhere and people are sick of seeing it
Genuine question for you, Kapslash. Do you think the movement for wokeness in Hollywood is actually sincere or just blatant pandering? For me I see it as the latter. How else can you explain Disney's wanting the live action Mulan to be a positive message for society but in the credits for the movie they offer a special thanks to a branch of the chinese government that oversees concentration camps for Uyghurs? If Disney believes in standing up for racial inequality, why do they shrink or remove black actors from movie posters for Chinese releases? If Disney stands for LGBT+ inclusion and representation, why do they edit them out of theatrical cuts for countries in the middle east and asia? If Disney cares so much about LGBT representation, why don't they make a movie with a queer lead character? Because then they wouldn't be able to censor/cut/edit them out of the final product, whereas they could do so with an unimportant side character. They don't care. Being woke is trendy in the united states, and they want to cater to that audience, but only up to the point until it affects their bottom line. The moment their profits or sales are threatened, they will bend the knee to whatever the ideology of the day is. People see right through this. To me it's nothing more than a device to sell products to consumers.
For Disney, it’s mostly pandering. That Mulan thing was especially heinous. The “woke” stuff that ends up in the actual movie is so tacked-on that it’s basically a non-factor
conservatives/ traditionalists have historically never made good art or have been able to properly critique art. all of their arguments stem from fear of change. good art has always been political. there is no such thing as apolitical art. the conservative narrative of wokeness being the establishment that must be resisted is a twisted philosophy to make them feel like they are david fighting goliath. pushing traditional thinking and "keep characters and genders the same" really is a cry for help. it is a want to keep things the same so they can understand the world. but the world is so complex and changing and multicultural, the art being produced will of course reflect that, and thats scary to a traditionalist.
LOL! George Lucas literally made Star Wars because he wanted to bring g back traditional storytelling. Tolkein was a conservative. Shit, Japan is broadly a conservative country and how much great media has come from there? It is both bigoted and just objectively wrong to claim only Liberals or only Conservatives can make or critique great art. Not to mention, most of the most vocal YT detractors of wholeness (critical drinker, nerdrotic) arent even conservative in the first place, nor do they identify as such. Your argument that good art is always political is also simply retarded unless you project and contort stuff to count as political. Road Runner and Coyote wasnt political, but it was great art. Lion King was technically political, in so far as it was about a monarchy, but it wasnt pushing liberal or conservative politics. It was telling a universal human story about growing up. The detractors of wokeness are not afraid of change, they despise the specific changes that have been happening because they generate inferior stories, damage old ones and for some of them view the changes as insidious. Which frankly is hard to argue against when you have multiple older male characters dusted off only to be presented as washed up losers again and again. Or female characters who do objectlively evil things but are never treated as in the wrong. Or when you can predict who will be a villain based upon skin colour because it is typically the white male character. That's not fear of change, that's disgust at a new type of racism and sexism.
Oh, and btw, multiculturalism has probably fucking failed. It was always a retarded idea that obviously would flop. I myself am of immigrant stock and I could have told you that. BIculturalism, wherein the native traditional values are observed first and foremost, alongside values and traditions from your ethnic homeland, is what used to happen and should have continued to happen. Your argument overall is that all change is good change but history demonstrably disproved that. It's more nuanced than that. There is a time for change and a time for tradition.
When the people who make the trash directly tell you they literally prioritize skin color, sexuality, and other superficial meaningless outer traits over talent, experience, and skill, maybe you should listen to them instead of making strawman arguments and doing mental gymnastics. Same thing when people try to say "there is no woke agenda" when the people with the agenda directly tell you they have an agenda. Then again, this video is probably clickbait. If it isn't, I don't know what else to say.
1. changing the races in ring of power not into all white cast, but all the same races for where their from would make a lot more sense for the story because back before travelling got easy most people were born, lived, and died in the same place so seeing a ton of different races in a remote, basically isolated village of humans takes me completely out of it, unlike the lotr movies or GOT for example, I don't care how many different races there are I care that it makes sense for the story that they are there 2. rings of power was a good example for colorblind casting for you to bring up because its a fantasy world, but they're race swapping historical figures such as cleopatra and jarl haakan SIGURDSSON, a VIKING lord into a black women,( its literally in his name that he was a man) colorblind casting can absolutely destroy movies/tv shows when they aren't based in a world of make believe 3. I don't like how you said that rings of power wasn't politically driven but the STAR of the show is a mary sue who treats everyone like trash but somehow does no wrong and are only held back by men instead of uplifted in any way, and did you even see the army the fought with, why weren't there any masculine men with beards and muscles fighting, all of them were either women or little skinny guys who look like they belong behind a desk rather than a WARZONE, not to mention the only man worth respecting in the WHOLE SHOW is the villain 4. the political ideas being forced down our throats ARE the race/gender swaps, tearing down well established male characters just to try to prop up the next minority mary sue, do a bait and switch like in doctor strange, I thought I was gonna see doctor strange be the hero of his own story but instead it was AMERICA CHAVEZ (a minority mary sue, with a lesbian couple for biological parents) AND the terribly written overtly political scenes, basically every superhero from marvel today is either a women, a minority, or a man who is shamed and looked down upon and if it wasn't a big deal then why do all of this and CONTINUE to do all of this even when its gotten a ton of pushback almost every time and lost millions of dollars at the box office, why keep doing it even when its losing hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in Disney stock if its not a big deal 5. you said its skin deep a lot in that video but what if it was reversed and the new blade or luke cage was white or barbie was a man while putting down women, I promise you nobody would say its just skin deep and the woke left would go ballistic and say that's racist and and trying to erase black culture so is it really just skin deep? anyway I just had a bit of time on my hands and I didn't think you truly understand why people (myself included) are so upset, its not because we hate women or minorities or diversity, but because I love lord of the rings, star wars, marvel, dc, doctor who, and Vikings and watching them kill those brands in real time is really sad and i would love to give my money hand over fist if they just focused on writing good stories with the great characters and I.P. titles that they spent billions of dollars to attain
I hope this youtuber is reading the comments here, he's very mistaken if he thinks wokeness is not the issue. And he needs to realise that the people commenting are the fans who refuse to pay to watch these movies. My wife and I watched Dr Strange and rolled our eyes at the same time when they showed America Shaves' lesbian parents. And that was the last time I paid to watch any of the marvel movies.
@@Ramzeis he replied to one of my comments (not this one cause its much harder to argue with this comment than that one )same lame ideas in the video buuut he did say that cleopatra sucks so at least there is a line in the sand for him which I can respect, I just think he is biased and doesn't want to admit that he is wrong on a decent amount of the video
Yes. And I'm a lifelong democratic voter and member of the LGBTQ community. This current obsession with pushing a progressive narrative at the expense of entertainment is turning the escapism so many of us turn to for relief from the constant pressures of our lives and jobs into little more than an extension of the hyper-partisan hellscape modern US politics have become and the result is that people like me, who were starting to find empathy from an otherwise antagonistic public, are now finding ourselves at the end of the pitchfork again. I don't tune into a Netflix fantasy series or whatever to be lectured (badly) on topics I'm already well-versed on and neither does anyone else. This stuff has to stop.
There a few points you didn't touch on. The first is that wokeness in media is as much what they do as what they don't do. One thing you hear people say a lot is could X movie could be made today i.e tropic thunder. Productions have a bigger tendency to play it safe and catering to a group than actually being creative and taking risks, some tropes and genres have been phased out either because they were tired and old or it no longer aligned with their sensibilities. Wokeness is a creative handicap because they limit themselves creatively by excludig certain genres and tropes and favoring other and having basic requirements that can ruin the whole story. Most of the movies are formulaic, they go for the low hanging fruit either in jokes, references etc. A lot of shows and movies feel like missed oppurtunities and when you see those ''specs of dust moments" or superficial changes it just reminds the audience that the film makers are woke. Those "specs of dust" or "superficial changes" instead of being a cringe moment now act as a signature for the woke. So wether or not wokeness played a part in the production being bad that signature will make the audience awaken all their pre conceived notions and wokeness gets blamed. A lot of things you said were superficial weren't, changing a recognizable characters identity will always be disatrous and when those changes follow a pattern, i.e redheads turning into black people, you start getting labled. Could you imagine bugs bunny any color other than gray or coca cola not using red? Their will always be bigots who oppose the introduction of certain groups regardless of wether it was swapped or not, but as soon as a character gets a major following that identity is locked into the general conciousness. You made some valid points but notably the fact that very few productions have woke plots and wokeness gets blamed for things it has nothing to do with and you merely scratched the surface on this issue. But overall wokeness is a problem its basically becoming what it set out to destroy. A lot of people forget that early film making was heavily censored and was very prude and conservative.The early progressives had to get smart, creative and take a lot of risks to get their messages across. They changed the rules by getting the audience on their side now they're trying to change the rules in spite of the audience. We used to have a lot of plots with nuance, sure there was a bias but you were left to make your own conclusions. Nowadays plots that make you actually think certain topics are the exception, even if there's a clash of ideals they'll tell you what's right. An example I like taking is ER versus Gray's anatomy. In one ep of ER one of the main characters witnesses a trans person who was his patient killing themselves, in this ep we are slowly shown why the trans person was depressed and the doctor after witnessing the incident starts questioning his own behavior towards them and as a viewer you are free to react however you want to this you can even self reflect. In gray's anatomy one of the Doctors siblings come out as trans and from the get go he gets told to accept it and be supportive but he is conflictive about it but he turns around eventually. The audience doesn't get a chance to feel the emotional weight of it, we are immediately told what is right and being against it is wrong, Anybody who's ever heard the words cognitive dissonace knows that isn't how you get people to aknowledge new information.
Their skin color doesn't mean shit, as far as show running goes. It's the whole dei agenda that permiates Hollywood in this day and age. We want entertainment over the message every time. If the message is all that is important and everything else is secondary then that is a huge disconnect from the company and the audience.
I think the main problem is, what happened to show not tell? If a character is a race, gender, different sexuality, just let them be that and let the story come first and we'll see who they are as the story and characters get fleshed out over time naturally. The problem is that actors and characters in modern day entertainment have bragging rights and constantly want to remind you of their status without letting us see it. It comes off as annoying and dislikable. This is what's wrong with today's story telling. SHOW DON'T TELL!
Movies nowadays can only entertain me once, not even worth a rewatch. Because theres a subtle message in it. Eg. Shazam Fury of the Gods… while running away from the enemy, one of the shazam boy had to shout to their stepparents im gay! Why? What has that got to do with running away? It sorta ruins the moment and the entire film.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate that you made this video. You raised really good points that seem to be very difficult for many to grasp. Even reading through the "anti-woke" comments here is hilarious. While there are so many lengthy comments that try to counteract your points, they actually end up doing the opposite without them realizing. I think one of the reason why your videos are not getting more views and likes is purely because they don't comply with the algorithms.
wow just wow you say Velma and Barby are the exception but you ignore the CW show like Bat Woman basically any Marvel like the Marvels and she halk most of the current star was outing and games like suicide squad and the overall work of Sweet Babe Ink are doing and many more I can list but what would the point be you are going to ignore it because it didn't suit your narrative!
The Rookie season 3 episode 1-2 that was it for me,how I managed the last two season it was watchable but season 3 sucked love to see if I was alone thinking that season was dead or would kill the show for myself,it went woke but tha was it was doing from season one,God I hate it when the catfish with a show,for the first two season then drop the MESSAGE
Wokeness is being shoehorned into the content as a mechanism to sell the product. But the product itself is already dogshit. So I can agree that it's not directly wokeness, as if you removed the woke elements these movies and shows would still be awful. I think what's happening is studios are making trash and inserting woke as a way to capture a certain audience. So is wokeness ruining modern entertainment? Not directly. Shitty writing and execution is killing entertainment. But, they are now relying on wokeness to prop up the shitty content.
Wokeness is destroying culture neither is Disney. It’s grifers who are they like to throw red herrings at you and want you to ignore teen titans go which is Velma clearly inspired by.
Racial diversity in RoP ruined the world-building. It ruined suspension of disbelief and immersion. We're supposed to believe these are archaic societies, but they look like Los Angeles. Numenor is an isolated island, not just isolated but isolationist. For 1600 years. That would mean they're racially homogenous. Yet it looks like they must be in regular contact with the rest of the world because they must have immigration. Unless maybe the original Numenorean settlers were racially diverse, and the Numenoreans have been practising apartheid? But we know they haven't been practising apartheid, because Tar-Miriel is black even though her father is white. So presumably she is the result of an interracial marriage, which means there's no apartheid, which means that after 1600 years of mixing they'd be homogenous. No matter how you try to justify it, it doesn't make sense, and trying to justify it distracts from the story. The way they should've depicted racial diversity - if they had to at all - was to make different nations different races. That would make more sense in a medieval world. Tolkien wrote dark-skinned nations, like the Haradrim. Instead, the writers seemed to employ some sort of random-race-generator which didn't make sense and made the smallest village seem like a cosmopolis. This had the bewildering effect of seeming like they were both ignoring race AND obsessing over race at the same time! An oft-repeated justification for having random black Harfoots is that Tolkien described the Harfoots as "browner of skin". This is often misquoted as "brown skin", but its "brownER skin", with the reference being the other two kinds of Hobbits, the Stoors and Fallohides. The Fallohides are explicitly pale-skinned, so I think it's a stretch to suggest that "browner than the other two" means "black". He could've meant Southern Europeans like Greeks. Also, very interesting cherry-picking, because Tar-Miriel is described as ""fairer than silver or ivory or pearls", yet she was played by a black actress. So are they following Tolkien's descriptions or not. But regardless of how you want to interpret the colour, the more important point is Tolkien says they're ALL that colour. He doesn't say a random three or four are one colour and the majority are another colour; he says they are ALL browner of skin. So if you interpret that as black, make them ALL black. Commit. What Tolkien /doesn't/ say is they're diverse. Sophia Nomvete wouldn't shut up about race in her interviews, telling us how revolutionary it was that she was the first black dwarf, like she was up there with Rosa Parks. They invited a backlash. It's like they knew their show was terrible so the used race as a shield early on. There's a reason House of the Dragon attracted far less criticism about their race-swapping: they did it responsibly. They did it to one family so it made sense and actually aided the viewer as a visual reference. Also they didn't use diversity as part of their marketing, like Rings of Power did. Look up the cringe-worthy "superfans" promo, the one Amazon ended up unlisting. They pushed diversity as a reason to watch it.
I appreciate this video, even if I disagree with some of your points. I do not doubt there are many that over embellish the effects of race swapping characters or lgbt representation but in my opinion that is not where people find the problem. I am a white male and very much enjoy shows and movies where there is not a white male lead. That is not even something I consider when watching or reading something. In my own writing I attempt to view my work from the reader's eye and I think that is the heart of the "go woke go broke" problem. A piece of creative work should be attempting to give me a unique and enjoyable experience, not try and change my world view or attempt to monetize my interests and affiliations. Those things are tertiary to the main goal of a creative work in my opinion. So when something is created with is core goal being "lets put a trans person as the main character" it falls flat, whereas a story that was made to be good and just happens to have a trans main character hits different.
You did a video without any data , you refused to show how much money these movies made , or compared them to the originals, this was your opinion backed up by nothing but your feelings LOLLL
@@davidmartinez52420 Before Star Wars, it was unusual for rebels to be portrayed as heroic. George Lucas said in an interview that he based them on the Vietcong. There's also themes of cultural collaboration with the Ewoks, rule by fear with the Empire, and Leia is a much stronger and more active character than most female love interests at the time.
@@kasplachproductions6198 how is it that you can read between the lines there and point to why it was political but then when they race swap another beloved character/historical figure you only see it as skin deep?
@@bringiton2752 Because for most of the characters that get race or gender swapped, their race or gender has nothing to do with their role in the narrative. I do agree that race swapping historical figures in *documentaries* is wrong. From what I can tell, that Cleopatra documentary can suck it.
Whilst I agree with some of what you say, I think you're ignoring a lot of the marketing when it comes to "the message". How many times have we heard x film is important because it is the first time a (insert diversity criteria person) directed/starred in a film in y franchise, as if it's vital that every single one meets every diversity quota, and even when x film is, at best, a mildly enjoyable bit of fluff. The fact is most people neither know nor care who directed a random movie in a long running franchise. They're there if at all, because the franchise has been fun up to that point. The eternals is a good example. It's an OK movie. But the marketing focused on how amazing it was that Marvel were making a movie with such a diverse cast. So to complain that the reviewers also commented on the diversity and how it added nothing to a very average movie is disingenuous. Then you get the companies complaining that the audience didn't come out because the movie had a diverse cast. Examples of this are the recent Madame Web,where one of the cast said that people weren't going to see it because men didn't want to see empowered women. I can't speak for anyone else but the reason that film didn't make my must see list had nothing to do with that and everything to do with the universally bad reviews. Another example is the recent remake of Charlie's Angels where the director claimed people didn't want to see it because it was a female lead action movie, despite the fact it was a remake of a hugely successful female lead action movie. I did see that one. It was OK, but not as good as the original movie or series. You can't keep making a big deal about the identity of the people involved in making your average, at best, movies and then complain about reviewers saying you care more about diversity than making a decent movie.
People are overcomplicating this. The problem is that no one is making content for men and boys anymore. Men and boys used to always have shows and movies that provided male escapism and wish fullfillment. They dont have that anymore so theyre not tuning in
Changing the race and/or gender of a long-standing character is not a "superficial detail". Main characters are the story and when you love a story, you usually don't want to see major changes that serve no purpose other than "LOOK AT US, OUR BRAND CELEBRATES DIVERSITY! NOW YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE RACIST, SEXIST OR HOMOPHOBIC". That is literally the only reason it's done.
Characters do have traits that define them on a fundamental level, but race and gender are rarely among them.
Why do people love Peter Parker? Is it his struggle to balance ordinary and superheroic life? His quippy sense of humor? His deep sense of responsibility in the face of overwhelming pressure?
Those are some of the traits that make Peter most distinct. Him being white and male are very, very far down that list.
@kasplachproductions6198 So Miles Morales should be white in a live action movie? Miguel O'Hara should be a woman? Part of his character is relatability to the audience. I love Miles not just because that he's a great character but also because he's a BLACK MAN. If they changed him to a woman for no reason I'd be beyond PISSED
@@kasplachproductions6198 your proving his point dude, if it really means nothing for the character to be a different race then when people push back and it costs the company billions of dollars then why keep doing it? simple, in the words of sandrocker, its to say look at us, our brand celebrates diversity! now you cant say we're racist, sexist or homophobic.
It isn't just about race, it's about changing the whole image of the character. Why did Captain Marvel need to be a woman all of a sudden? So they could shoehorn that into an all female hero cast later. It's just pandering to the crowds that have the loudest, whiniest voice in social media. Then the company gets a proverbial pat on the back.
The bigger focus is always black vs white, so the point tends to get lost. I don't care about white characters, i'm Nicaraguan. I just don't want all my old favorite stories to change into unrecognizable garbage. Make new stories with diverse casts, i'm all for that.
@@kasplachproductions6198then why are people so obsessed with changing them and promoting them?
Oh brother..it’s funny because I wanted to see the “ other” side of the fandom. And everything you said about rings of power you must be blind. Everything from casting to PR - to the actors whose sole purpose was to check a box and be “ the first black female dwarf” or “ I can finally be a black elf in lord of the rings “. It’s people like you who have destroyed so many IPs .
Fair enough, Sophia Nomvete did speak about being the first black female dwarf. But she's just one supporting actress, and even then it was far from the only thing she talked about. It was largely the anti-woke crowd who made her race and gender the focus of the conversation leading into the show. Basically, this happened: ibb.co/jHW7m46
Okay, I've clicked on your video with other expectations (viewing it from my European standpoint), because wokeness sucks really, but not in the way the commenters your video seem like to have a problem with. 😉
The problem for me is NOT, that there are characters that are of different skin color (is that correct Englisch? I'm a foreign speaker), the problem is that they are not fitting to some stories.
4:30 - Okay, here you disqualify yourself, because that dwarf-actress always emphasized that she's the "first black dwarf", and that is one of the parts people got upset about. Because: If we are all equal, what's the matter?
Politics in media: Totally cool with that! Agenda-politics in a fiction world invented by a guy, who cannot defend it, because he's dead since the 70's? No, would you like your videos to be miss-used in a hundred years from now, in a matter you didn't meant?
Most people don't care about the skin color of the actors, we care about telling a quality story. Those that defend these movies basically ignore that that's what our issue is and will label us racist or sexist or whatever.
Is Wokeness the problem? Yes that and very bad writing. Disney is a garbage heap and ruin everything they touch. So in my opinion, everyone is allowed to have one, Wokeness is mostly the problem.
My big issue is changing classics to be more woke. Look at Mulan, look at Aladdin.
And regarding changing races etc. that’s all nice and dandy but let’s see them do the same by changing a classic black character to a white person. Oh that won’t happen..
Not unless you have the mother of all fortresses because the assault and siege from the far left screaming RACIST! and even handing out death threats will be huge.
It’s the lazy writing which weirdly echos in the real world. The problem isn’t a strong female lead, it’s the puddle deep female lead. If captain marvel was sex swapped to a guy it would still be a poor movie. There’s no arc to any of these strong female lead characters and it kills the narrative. When it comes to the sexuality side, it’s again because that’s all there is about the character. Why can’t the character be bad ass that just happens to be gay? No we get whoa this character is bad ass because they’re gay, it’s lazy but weirdly why punctuated in real life.
When it comes to race swapping characters, just why? Going to choose the little mermaid. Why couldn’t we have had Ariel’s sister be the black girl? Why erase the white girl ( or more important to me, the ginger girl) when we could have had an entirely new story in Ariel’s universe? They did it to be deliberately provocative, in order to gain publicity basically hanging out the poor actress out to dry. She didn’t deserve that.
They’re are plenty of black story’s to be made, black people have a long diverse culture full of story’s tell one of those, don’t tell a white story with a black person.
Lastly. For gods sake don’t make a movie, tell white people it’s not for them and then get pissy when they don’t go see it.
I don’t think you’ll get the response you wanted from this video.
Yes wokness is the problem, identity politics, destruction of popular characters.
Where have you been the past 10 years as things have got progressively worse?
great video to bad no one in your comment section actually saw the video before commenting
I dont really care if some one is female male or of colour in media, as long as it is actually good
Yes. Yes it is. No amount of copium or goalpost shifting will change that.
Yes it In fact is, you cannot simply claim the sky is green and expect us to believe it
I was a little let down by this video.
by the end of it i was expecting you to dicuss a little more than just the symptoms of the issues plaguing the film & entertainment industry, but unfortunately that didnt happen.
People just blame "wokeness" because it's easy to latch onto, seeing as feminism is (in my opinion) a radical shell of its former self.
I liked hearing your POV, but I really hope you would look into this more. You seem to only have a surface level understanding (and a small dislike of the drinker)
This is not hard yet many folks have difficulty with. Wokeness in itself does not make a movie bad. But putting writing a “woke” story before writing a “good” story is what makes a movie bad.
This is universal. Same can be said for any other “message”. Right or left doesn’t matter. If you are focusing on the “message” rather than the “story”, you reap what you saw. You get a good message and a bad story.
Here's the deal, while activism in film isn't anything new, in fact some of the greatest films of all time were in fact activist movies, such as Gojira (Abuse of atomic power), Alien (Pro-Abortion), and more recently, Zootopia (issues with bias). While these films had powerful messages, it was the characters that had to learn the lesson and not the audience. The films that are being released now have the roles reversed. Activism is at the forefront and because the main character is the activist any disagreement results in you the audience being the "bad guy". Since it was brought up, let's look at Disney's demake of The Little Mermaid. I was a part of a young filmmakers group in 2019 when Disney's casting director announced that they were specifically hunting for a black female to play Ariel. The black film makers in my group were pissed and for good reason. Being black isn't just a color, its a culture and identity. I think The Little Mermaid would have been received different had they told a completely different story with a full on Carrebbean twist. Yet Disney did not do this. There was literally zero reason for them to recast a trademarked character as a different ethnicity just for the sake of doing it. If you look at the arguments against those who oppose this change, it boils down to, "White folk don't think mermaids should be black!" This isn't the point. Nobody other than far-left white liberals, likes it when a well-known trademarked Disney character is race swapped for literally no reason.
dude... identity politics is when you proioritize someone's group identity over someone's individuality. and this is exactly what woke people push and what makes these shows and movies so atrocious. if your priority is someone's race, sexuality and whatnot, this will obviously spil over the entire product. making it sh*t in the process. and it inevitably happens every single time.
diversity is a good thing. go for it if you can, but diversity has always been there. there have been people of all races and sexes and sexualities in movies and shows. but it wasnt's the focal point of the show. it was just there and there was basically zero attention brought to it. and that's a good thing.
but now? just listen to any actor promoting their woke product. absolutely nobody talks about the story and characters. it always pushes diversity and inclusivity, modern feminism or modern sensibilities. and people dont like then being shoved down their throats even in family movies or cartoons for kids. and yea, the fact that these movies and shows are borderline unwatchable doesnt really help either. make a product that entertains people for a few hours. not something that lectures and demonizes any opposing view, making wokesters the most intolerant people on the planet...
You said it yourself, you see a lot of comments (including millions of views and likes on videos that say this) that say the problem is wokeness. THOSE are the fans of comic book movies saying WHY they're not watching. THAT MEANS that wokeness is indeed the issue.
Does “wokeness” mean having slightly more women and people of color in the cast? If you’re against that, how are you literally not sexist and racist?
@@adamnewman1043 No that's not what it means. Wokeness is the obsession with having women, people of color and gay in everything even when it makes zero sense for the story, wokeness is Disney Marvel saying they're aiming for majority female superheroes and end up sacrificing good stories just to achieve that obsession.
@@Ramzeis so you’re implying only straight white men can make a good story? Anything else is a sacrifice of that ambition? Fewer straight whites = worse story?
@@adamnewman1043 No, it means ""cultural marxism". Or just straight up racial communism if you need it dumbed down more.
@@adamnewman1043 It means diversity for diversity's sake at the expense of a quality story. Most people don't care about diverse casts as long as the diversity makes sense in the setting(meaning very few people of color in medieval Europe based stories and very few white people in sub-Saharan African based stories because neither makes sense in those respective settings) and quality story telling.
You do not have a good grasp of the issue you're addressing in this video, there's a reason Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, RK etc get millions of views, its because the masses agree with them. Not the other way around, not because those UA-camrs are driving narratives. You refute yourself in this video, you reference other successful movies which have political and woke ideas but they did not seem to be the main thing and they were written into the movies well. But what's happening lately is that Disney etc are sacrificing good stories for those woke ideas and representation.
Your comment has more likes than his video LMAO
@@Veatoox LMAO but somehow I doubt that's enough for him to get the message, hopefully he does
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@@kasplachproductions6198 I'm curious, have you changed your mind on any of the ideas you said in the video or do you double down on those sentiments?
@@bringiton2752 if he wants to double down, he should double down on the correct moral high grounds; Disney should have stood by Rian Johnson and the Last Jedi. Pandering to the Toxic fanbase has empowered them, like the Nazis empowered ordinary Germans: Banality of Evil.
Yes, it didnt help that Mark Hamill came out to add fuel to the fire....
Incorrect moral high grounds is doing way too many Mary Sue's when the audience is largely male!!!
Great video, though for the sake of your sanity allow me to quote a pro-diversity white man of yore : “You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”
Regardless of whether or not the correlation is true, there are people who want it to be true, and so they will upvote others saying that it is true. And then they will point to those upvotes as "proof of truth". And there's nothing you can do to change their minds.
Wokeness has definitely become a problem in entertainment. However, sometimes I do think people drag every little thing and say it’s woke. Spider Man ATSV was a really good movie but I saw people say they did not like it because there was only 1 white male main character and he was not made to look strong. Issues like this are just extra and not serious at all. I feel like people now look at everything and if even one thing does not align with their traditions and beliefs, it will be considered woke
I don't agree, I think that if that was the only case of a a long established white character looking weak and getting pushed aside for the new minority/female character it wouldn't be a problem at all but its happening all the time and I'll just list a few
indiana jones, hulk, thor, doctor strange, antman, the eternals, mandalorian, peter pan, spiderman, hawkeye, and don't even get me started on star wars
and that's just off the top of my head, do its not that it happened in this movie in particular, its that its happening everywhere and people are sick of seeing it
Genuine question for you, Kapslash. Do you think the movement for wokeness in Hollywood is actually sincere or just blatant pandering? For me I see it as the latter. How else can you explain Disney's wanting the live action Mulan to be a positive message for society but in the credits for the movie they offer a special thanks to a branch of the chinese government that oversees concentration camps for Uyghurs? If Disney believes in standing up for racial inequality, why do they shrink or remove black actors from movie posters for Chinese releases? If Disney stands for LGBT+ inclusion and representation, why do they edit them out of theatrical cuts for countries in the middle east and asia? If Disney cares so much about LGBT representation, why don't they make a movie with a queer lead character? Because then they wouldn't be able to censor/cut/edit them out of the final product, whereas they could do so with an unimportant side character.
They don't care. Being woke is trendy in the united states, and they want to cater to that audience, but only up to the point until it affects their bottom line. The moment their profits or sales are threatened, they will bend the knee to whatever the ideology of the day is.
People see right through this. To me it's nothing more than a device to sell products to consumers.
For Disney, it’s mostly pandering. That Mulan thing was especially heinous. The “woke” stuff that ends up in the actual movie is so tacked-on that it’s basically a non-factor
conservatives/ traditionalists have historically never made good art or have been able to properly critique art. all of their arguments stem from fear of change. good art has always been political. there is no such thing as apolitical art.
the conservative narrative of wokeness being the establishment that must be resisted is a twisted philosophy to make them feel like they are david fighting goliath.
pushing traditional thinking and "keep characters and genders the same" really is a cry for help. it is a want to keep things the same so they can understand the world. but the world is so complex and changing and multicultural, the art being produced will of course reflect that, and thats scary to a traditionalist.
LOL! George Lucas literally made Star Wars because he wanted to bring g back traditional storytelling. Tolkein was a conservative. Shit, Japan is broadly a conservative country and how much great media has come from there?
It is both bigoted and just objectively wrong to claim only Liberals or only Conservatives can make or critique great art.
Not to mention, most of the most vocal YT detractors of wholeness (critical drinker, nerdrotic) arent even conservative in the first place, nor do they identify as such.
Your argument that good art is always political is also simply retarded unless you project and contort stuff to count as political. Road Runner and Coyote wasnt political, but it was great art.
Lion King was technically political, in so far as it was about a monarchy, but it wasnt pushing liberal or conservative politics. It was telling a universal human story about growing up.
The detractors of wokeness are not afraid of change, they despise the specific changes that have been happening because they generate inferior stories, damage old ones and for some of them view the changes as insidious. Which frankly is hard to argue against when you have multiple older male characters dusted off only to be presented as washed up losers again and again. Or female characters who do objectlively evil things but are never treated as in the wrong. Or when you can predict who will be a villain based upon skin colour because it is typically the white male character.
That's not fear of change, that's disgust at a new type of racism and sexism.
Oh, and btw, multiculturalism has probably fucking failed. It was always a retarded idea that obviously would flop. I myself am of immigrant stock and I could have told you that.
BIculturalism, wherein the native traditional values are observed first and foremost, alongside values and traditions from your ethnic homeland, is what used to happen and should have continued to happen.
Your argument overall is that all change is good change but history demonstrably disproved that. It's more nuanced than that. There is a time for change and a time for tradition.
When the people who make the trash directly tell you they literally prioritize skin color, sexuality, and other superficial meaningless outer traits over talent, experience, and skill, maybe you should listen to them instead of making strawman arguments and doing mental gymnastics. Same thing when people try to say "there is no woke agenda" when the people with the agenda directly tell you they have an agenda.
Then again, this video is probably clickbait. If it isn't, I don't know what else to say.
What's even worse is many of those same people that say wokeness isn't a problem will also call you a coon for having this opinion despite being black
Yes, yes it is. Welcome to 8yrs ago bud, glad you finally made it
How could you say that Jared Leto’s magnum opus Morbius wasn’t a cinematic masterpiece???
1. changing the races in ring of power not into all white cast, but all the same races for where their from would make a lot more sense for the story because back before travelling got easy most people were born, lived, and died in the same place so seeing a ton of different races in a remote, basically isolated village of humans takes me completely out of it, unlike the lotr movies or GOT for example, I don't care how many different races there are I care that it makes sense for the story that they are there
2. rings of power was a good example for colorblind casting for you to bring up because its a fantasy world, but they're race swapping historical figures such as cleopatra and jarl haakan SIGURDSSON, a VIKING lord into a black women,( its literally in his name that he was a man) colorblind casting can absolutely destroy movies/tv shows when they aren't based in a world of make believe
3. I don't like how you said that rings of power wasn't politically driven but the STAR of the show is a mary sue who treats everyone like trash but somehow does no wrong and are only held back by men instead of uplifted in any way, and did you even see the army the fought with, why weren't there any masculine men with beards and muscles fighting, all of them were either women or little skinny guys who look like they belong behind a desk rather than a WARZONE, not to mention the only man worth respecting in the WHOLE SHOW is the villain
4. the political ideas being forced down our throats ARE the race/gender swaps, tearing down well established male characters just to try to prop up the next minority mary sue, do a bait and switch like in doctor strange, I thought I was gonna see doctor strange be the hero of his own story but instead it was AMERICA CHAVEZ (a minority mary sue, with a lesbian couple for biological parents) AND the terribly written overtly political scenes, basically every superhero from marvel today is either a women, a minority, or a man who is shamed and looked down upon and if it wasn't a big deal then why do all of this and CONTINUE to do all of this even when its gotten a ton of pushback almost every time and lost millions of dollars at the box office, why keep doing it even when its losing hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in Disney stock if its not a big deal
5. you said its skin deep a lot in that video but what if it was reversed and the new blade or luke cage was white or barbie was a man while putting down women, I promise you nobody would say its just skin deep and the woke left would go ballistic and say that's racist and and trying to erase black culture so is it really just skin deep?
anyway I just had a bit of time on my hands and I didn't think you truly understand why people (myself included) are so upset, its not because we hate women or minorities or diversity, but because I love lord of the rings, star wars, marvel, dc, doctor who, and Vikings and watching them kill those brands in real time is really sad and i would love to give my money hand over fist if they just focused on writing good stories with the great characters and I.P. titles that they spent billions of dollars to attain
I hope this youtuber is reading the comments here, he's very mistaken if he thinks wokeness is not the issue. And he needs to realise that the people commenting are the fans who refuse to pay to watch these movies.
My wife and I watched Dr Strange and rolled our eyes at the same time when they showed America Shaves' lesbian parents. And that was the last time I paid to watch any of the marvel movies.
@@Ramzeis He liked the only comment that supports his argument and he also replied to a comment I made, so he is reading these and probably seething
@@davidmartinez52420 I can't say I'm surprised, he's just refusing to accept the facts
@@Ramzeis he replied to one of my comments (not this one cause its much harder to argue with this comment than that one )same lame ideas in the video buuut he did say that cleopatra sucks so at least there is a line in the sand for him which I can respect, I just think he is biased and doesn't want to admit that he is wrong on a decent amount of the video
@@bringiton2752 At least he's not a lost cause. Hopefully he reads all these comments with an open mind.
Yes. And I'm a lifelong democratic voter and member of the LGBTQ community. This current obsession with pushing a progressive narrative at the expense of entertainment is turning the escapism so many of us turn to for relief from the constant pressures of our lives and jobs into little more than an extension of the hyper-partisan hellscape modern US politics have become and the result is that people like me, who were starting to find empathy from an otherwise antagonistic public, are now finding ourselves at the end of the pitchfork again. I don't tune into a Netflix fantasy series or whatever to be lectured (badly) on topics I'm already well-versed on and neither does anyone else. This stuff has to stop.
There a few points you didn't touch on. The first is that wokeness in media is as much what they do as what they don't do. One thing you hear people say a lot is could X movie could be made today i.e tropic thunder. Productions have a bigger tendency to play it safe and catering to a group than actually being creative and taking risks, some tropes and genres have been phased out either because they were tired and old or it no longer aligned with their sensibilities. Wokeness is a creative handicap because they limit themselves creatively by excludig certain genres and tropes and favoring other and having basic requirements that can ruin the whole story. Most of the movies are formulaic, they go for the low hanging fruit either in jokes, references etc. A lot of shows and movies feel like missed oppurtunities and when you see those ''specs of dust moments" or superficial changes it just reminds the audience that the film makers are woke. Those "specs of dust" or "superficial changes" instead of being a cringe moment now act as a signature for the woke. So wether or not wokeness played a part in the production being bad that signature will make the audience awaken all their pre conceived notions and wokeness gets blamed.
A lot of things you said were superficial weren't, changing a recognizable characters identity will always be disatrous and when those changes follow a pattern, i.e redheads turning into black people, you start getting labled. Could you imagine bugs bunny any color other than gray or coca cola not using red? Their will always be bigots who oppose the introduction of certain groups regardless of wether it was swapped or not, but as soon as a character gets a major following that identity is locked into the general conciousness.
You made some valid points but notably the fact that very few productions have woke plots and wokeness gets blamed for things it has nothing to do with and you merely scratched the surface on this issue. But overall wokeness is a problem its basically becoming what it set out to destroy. A lot of people forget that early film making was heavily censored and was very prude and conservative.The early progressives had to get smart, creative and take a lot of risks to get their messages across. They changed the rules by getting the audience on their side now they're trying to change the rules in spite of the audience. We used to have a lot of plots with nuance, sure there was a bias but you were left to make your own conclusions. Nowadays plots that make you actually think certain topics are the exception, even if there's a clash of ideals they'll tell you what's right.
An example I like taking is ER versus Gray's anatomy. In one ep of ER one of the main characters witnesses a trans person who was his patient killing themselves, in this ep we are slowly shown why the trans person was depressed and the doctor after witnessing the incident starts questioning his own behavior towards them and as a viewer you are free to react however you want to this you can even self reflect. In gray's anatomy one of the Doctors siblings come out as trans and from the get go he gets told to accept it and be supportive but he is conflictive about it but he turns around eventually. The audience doesn't get a chance to feel the emotional weight of it, we are immediately told what is right and being against it is wrong, Anybody who's ever heard the words cognitive dissonace knows that isn't how you get people to aknowledge new information.
Their skin color doesn't mean shit, as far as show running goes. It's the whole dei agenda that permiates Hollywood in this day and age. We want entertainment over the message every time. If the message is all that is important and everything else is secondary then that is a huge disconnect from the company and the audience.
I think the main problem is, what happened to show not tell?
If a character is a race, gender, different sexuality, just let them be that and let the story come first and we'll see who they are as the story and characters get fleshed out over time naturally.
The problem is that actors and characters in modern day entertainment have bragging rights and constantly want to remind you of their status without letting us see it. It comes off as annoying and dislikable.
This is what's wrong with today's story telling. SHOW DON'T TELL!
Movies nowadays can only entertain me once, not even worth a rewatch. Because theres a subtle message in it. Eg. Shazam Fury of the Gods… while running away from the enemy, one of the shazam boy had to shout to their stepparents im gay! Why? What has that got to do with running away? It sorta ruins the moment and the entire film.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate that you made this video. You raised really good points that seem to be very difficult for many to grasp. Even reading through the "anti-woke" comments here is hilarious. While there are so many lengthy comments that try to counteract your points, they actually end up doing the opposite without them realizing. I think one of the reason why your videos are not getting more views and likes is purely because they don't comply with the algorithms.
wow just wow
you say Velma and Barby are the exception
but you ignore the CW show like Bat Woman
basically any Marvel like the Marvels and she halk
most of the current star was outing
and games like suicide squad and the overall work of Sweet Babe Ink are doing
and many more I can list but what would the point be you are going to ignore it because it didn't suit your narrative!
numbers talk my friend, people are tired and woke is ruining everything
The Rookie season 3 episode 1-2 that was it for me,how I managed the last two season it was watchable but season 3 sucked love to see if I was alone thinking that season was dead or would kill the show for myself,it went woke but tha was it was doing from season one,God I hate it when the catfish with a show,for the first two season then drop the MESSAGE
Wokeness is being shoehorned into the content as a mechanism to sell the product. But the product itself is already dogshit.
So I can agree that it's not directly wokeness, as if you removed the woke elements these movies and shows would still be awful. I think what's happening is studios are making trash and inserting woke as a way to capture a certain audience.
So is wokeness ruining modern entertainment? Not directly. Shitty writing and execution is killing entertainment. But, they are now relying on wokeness to prop up the shitty content.
In one word. Yes it fucking is
Wokeness is destroying culture neither is Disney. It’s grifers who are they like to throw red herrings at you and want you to ignore teen titans go which is Velma clearly inspired by.
You're lucky that UA-cam doesn't show the dislike ratio anymore
Oh I see it on my end 🙃
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Racial diversity in RoP ruined the world-building. It ruined suspension of disbelief and immersion. We're supposed to believe these are archaic societies, but they look like Los Angeles. Numenor is an isolated island, not just isolated but isolationist. For 1600 years. That would mean they're racially homogenous. Yet it looks like they must be in regular contact with the rest of the world because they must have immigration.
Unless maybe the original Numenorean settlers were racially diverse, and the Numenoreans have been practising apartheid? But we know they haven't been practising apartheid, because Tar-Miriel is black even though her father is white. So presumably she is the result of an interracial marriage, which means there's no apartheid, which means that after 1600 years of mixing they'd be homogenous. No matter how you try to justify it, it doesn't make sense, and trying to justify it distracts from the story.
The way they should've depicted racial diversity - if they had to at all - was to make different nations different races. That would make more sense in a medieval world. Tolkien wrote dark-skinned nations, like the Haradrim. Instead, the writers seemed to employ some sort of random-race-generator which didn't make sense and made the smallest village seem like a cosmopolis. This had the bewildering effect of seeming like they were both ignoring race AND obsessing over race at the same time!
An oft-repeated justification for having random black Harfoots is that Tolkien described the Harfoots as "browner of skin". This is often misquoted as "brown skin", but its "brownER skin", with the reference being the other two kinds of Hobbits, the Stoors and Fallohides. The Fallohides are explicitly pale-skinned, so I think it's a stretch to suggest that "browner than the other two" means "black". He could've meant Southern Europeans like Greeks. Also, very interesting cherry-picking, because Tar-Miriel is described as ""fairer than silver or ivory or pearls", yet she was played by a black actress. So are they following Tolkien's descriptions or not.
But regardless of how you want to interpret the colour, the more important point is Tolkien says they're ALL that colour. He doesn't say a random three or four are one colour and the majority are another colour; he says they are ALL browner of skin. So if you interpret that as black, make them ALL black. Commit. What Tolkien /doesn't/ say is they're diverse.
Sophia Nomvete wouldn't shut up about race in her interviews, telling us how revolutionary it was that she was the first black dwarf, like she was up there with Rosa Parks. They invited a backlash. It's like they knew their show was terrible so the used race as a shield early on. There's a reason House of the Dragon attracted far less criticism about their race-swapping: they did it responsibly. They did it to one family so it made sense and actually aided the viewer as a visual reference. Also they didn't use diversity as part of their marketing, like Rings of Power did. Look up the cringe-worthy "superfans" promo, the one Amazon ended up unlisting. They pushed diversity as a reason to watch it.
Yes it is
I appreciate this video, even if I disagree with some of your points. I do not doubt there are many that over embellish the effects of race swapping characters or lgbt representation but in my opinion that is not where people find the problem. I am a white male and very much enjoy shows and movies where there is not a white male lead. That is not even something I consider when watching or reading something. In my own writing I attempt to view my work from the reader's eye and I think that is the heart of the "go woke go broke" problem. A piece of creative work should be attempting to give me a unique and enjoyable experience, not try and change my world view or attempt to monetize my interests and affiliations. Those things are tertiary to the main goal of a creative work in my opinion. So when something is created with is core goal being "lets put a trans person as the main character" it falls flat, whereas a story that was made to be good and just happens to have a trans main character hits different.
the boy's season 4 lazy boring woke star wars the acolyte lazy boring woke
You completely missed the point 😂...
You did a video without any data , you refused to show how much money these movies made , or compared them to the originals, this was your opinion backed up by nothing but your feelings LOLLL
i find it so bizarre that there are some people out there who actually believe that the original Star Wars movies were apolitical.
Genuine question, but was political about the OG trilogy? The prequel trilogy was much more political, especially The Phantom Menace.
How so?
@@davidmartinez52420 Before Star Wars, it was unusual for rebels to be portrayed as heroic. George Lucas said in an interview that he based them on the Vietcong. There's also themes of cultural collaboration with the Ewoks, rule by fear with the Empire, and Leia is a much stronger and more active character than most female love interests at the time.
@@kasplachproductions6198 how is it that you can read between the lines there and point to why it was political but then when they race swap another beloved character/historical figure you only see it as skin deep?
@@bringiton2752 Because for most of the characters that get race or gender swapped, their race or gender has nothing to do with their role in the narrative.
I do agree that race swapping historical figures in *documentaries* is wrong. From what I can tell, that Cleopatra documentary can suck it.
Lad come on
This came across as teenage gaslighting. Either incredibly naive or intellectually dishonest.
Boo and hiss! 👎
Whilst I agree with some of what you say, I think you're ignoring a lot of the marketing when it comes to "the message".
How many times have we heard x film is important because it is the first time a (insert diversity criteria person) directed/starred in a film in y franchise, as if it's vital that every single one meets every diversity quota, and even when x film is, at best, a mildly enjoyable bit of fluff.
The fact is most people neither know nor care who directed a random movie in a long running franchise. They're there if at all, because the franchise has been fun up to that point.
The eternals is a good example. It's an OK movie. But the marketing focused on how amazing it was that Marvel were making a movie with such a diverse cast. So to complain that the reviewers also commented on the diversity and how it added nothing to a very average movie is disingenuous.
Then you get the companies complaining that the audience didn't come out because the movie had a diverse cast.
Examples of this are the recent Madame Web,where one of the cast said that people weren't going to see it because men didn't want to see empowered women. I can't speak for anyone else but the reason that film didn't make my must see list had nothing to do with that and everything to do with the universally bad reviews.
Another example is the recent remake of Charlie's Angels where the director claimed people didn't want to see it because it was a female lead action movie, despite the fact it was a remake of a hugely successful female lead action movie. I did see that one. It was OK, but not as good as the original movie or series.
You can't keep making a big deal about the identity of the people involved in making your average, at best, movies and then complain about reviewers saying you care more about diversity than making a decent movie.
Yes , WOKENESS is the problem, and you are not on the league of those youtubers you mention.
Yes.
People are overcomplicating this. The problem is that no one is making content for men and boys anymore. Men and boys used to always have shows and movies that provided male escapism and wish fullfillment. They dont have that anymore so theyre not tuning in
Thank you for this video. Unfortunately your comment section is filled with hardcore anti-woke supporters.
what has anyone said that's wrong?