(1073) Challenge: Andy's Glass Pins
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- In this video I take on a challenge lock with "glass pins" from Andy.
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See, I thought that he would have made the glass pins incredibly thin, so if someone (AKA Bill), were to try and pick it, the glass could break, permanently disabling the lock.
Sudoscoobs but you could just brute force it, and the pins would shear and the lock would open.
Well, you would have to pick the other pins first, otherwise you couldn't turn the core to break the stuck glass pin. And with the core being jammed because of the glass pin, it would be difficult to know when the rest of the pins are set. If you were able to pick the other pins, then yeah, I can see what you mean.
Hmm. Now you got me thinking about the how to best use this technology. Is there a way to design a pin that, when broken, completely jams the cylinder, but not so fragile that it can be forced to break. Perhaps a pin made of a metal part, and a fragile glass part, where, if the glass breaks during picking, the pin can no longer reach the shear line? I wonder how one could create such a monster.
Glass key pins with metal drivers would be better than glass+glass, right? Break the glass, and the driver falls in. Shape it right and it would be a pain in the rear to work with again.
Perfect, now one of us just has to build it :)
tin2001 it's all common sense all you remember is 17 by 5mm toward the bolt end for emergency good luck guys
2:50 that moment the water comes out of your ear
Lmao
stop.
You are hilarious
you right
It's nice to hear the pins moving. Gives all us rookies a nice idea of what to listen for, and make it feel like we're in the room with you.
If you are interested in picking up lockpick sounds, consider playing around with a piezo microphone that you can stick to the lock itself. It picks up vibrations through conduction. They are used on guitars (and other instruments) to pickup sound. If you run this mic as it's own recording you can overlay it with your other audio track. You just need a way to synchronize the feeds. A nice sharp snap sound can help with lining up the audio. This method might require some post processing with something like Audacity.
did bill already try this or was it a different channel? This sounds like something I've seen before.
I made one of those out of an old piezo buzzer, they can work but the quality is not the best, especially for guitar.
Or.. just a mixer? Lol
@@GigsTaggart does ring a bell for me, too. 🤔
"I'm going to bite this thing." That was interesting.
James Orr I was thinking to do the same thing.
James Orr That's how you tell if pearls are real
Test it with your teeth, if you are sure it's worth more than the dental treatment after.
cyanide pill pin:o
stykyun Was that sarcasm or do you just not bother with thinking as you type?
I like hearing inside the lock. It's a nice touch
InsaneFirebat LockASMR
Great avatar image & username @InsaneFirebat
Thanks for all you've done! On and outside UA-cam.
Enjoy your family life!
I've been watching your videos for years, never gets old seeing you get an open. You flew through that lock!
I have always, since I was a child, been interested in locks and lock picking. Your channel is right up my alley. Thank you for all the information.
I really enjoyed you having your microphone close to the lock. I learn a lot more that way.
The shims. Lol, you always double shim and have trouble putting them in. If you have trouble its probably two shims. Ive never shimmed anything. But every time you have trouble I literally call it and then laugh. This one was especially awesome. 6:00 "there's definitely something caught there". lol
YES!
I love the lock - mic. Those sounds really help me understand.
I have recently found myself watching a LOT of your videos. Very entertaining and educational. Looking at picking up a set of tools and giving picking a try!
i love to see these small improvements you make. every video seems to be more thought trought than the one before
just a head up, if you got a small piezo mic (you can get them dirt cheap on amazon), you could stick it right onto the lock body to pick up the sound
I like being able to hear the clicks better thanks Bill!!! =D
I think the glass pin is to stop bumping it. Bump the lock, pin shatters, fragments jam in the threads, lock disabled.
Once the glass pin has shattered, the remaining shards may be small enough to crush by turning the lock. Also, if the glass pin was fragile enough to break from bumping, it would be dangerously close to fragile enough to fail in normal use.
maybe those electric picks? I see metal shavings fly all over from just using them on regular locks.
not only that, but to prevent heavy tension. if one would apply heavy tension to the lock, glass breaks, bye lock.
The threads were on 3. The glass was in 4.
@@johnrice1943 No, gutting clearly shows the glass was on 3.
I vastly prefer having the mic by the lock
Same here. I can NEVER single pin pick a lock. I always end up raking them open or bitch picking. But, in fairness, I have only ever picked Best locks ( which open mostly by chance with a triple peak / bogota ), and a ton of master locks. I need to get a REAL lock with security pins.. And now that I have seen some videos that show how clearly they are supposed to click, this will dramatically improve my skills once I can afford to get some good locks to practicing SPPing.
i find mysell better at SPP than the rake, even on shit masters.
Nude Jawn
Same. I struggle to rake my old bike padlock, and its only 3 standard pins. Pick it "properly" and it opens in 3 seconds.
I can rake open a 570 in like a minute and a half but to SPP it take me like 15 minutes. Guess I just need to git gud
Lock asmr = win
This is the first video ive watxhed with the mic next to the lock, and its literally the best ASMR ever
Very nice pins Andy! Thanks for the video Bill, and as usual, nice picking!!
Alex Daniels this Andy...thanks for compliment!!
Keep up the good work! Hope to see more from you!!
I like hearing the lock clicking, however I would like to hear you as well. Great vid as always. Thanks!
"Let's get that clip off" (Band-aid on thumb right where the screwdriver would end up).
Also, contact mic?
Glass pins? That's just crazy!
Yeah, I think keep your regular mic and add in a contact mic. :-)
The gutting part is always the most interesting.
Your vocal audio was fine. It was merely lowered a bit when changing direction. Please continue to mic the pins. Great experimentation with the non-metallic pins. I've used a bit of wire, a tiny length of toothpick, and a bit Q-tip shaft.
When you first put the mic next to the lock, it was hard to hear you. After you moved away from the lock to make room for the tension wrench, I could hear you much better, and also hear the lock. The best of both worlds.
Im wondering why I am even watching these fancy locks, when I still can't even pick a master lock #3.
I liked the mic by the lock. Not sure why people are saying they can't hear you when you're perfectly clear. Helps us newbies know the sounds of certain things.
Bill!!! Keep using that microphone set-up. I was able to close my eyes and feel the pins with muscle memory and mind memory. That was an incredible experience! Please do that for now on!
Phy is "mind memory" redundant?
Who ever suggested it was a genius, Bill, you should get yourself a small drum mike just for the pins. Set it up on the side of the vice... would send you one but I'd never afford the postage let alone the mic.
Agreed, i was able to hear that false set on pin 3 before mr. bill mentioned it ;-j
"Mind memory"
so... memory
Gotta keep dat Mind Memory in shape
just wanted to say i do enjoy watching your videos, keep up the good work
1:40 we ASMR now. ;)
That was my thought, too xD
Not going to lie, listening to people do precision work has always had an ASMR effect on me. Lock picking, origami, leather working, widdling... you name it. Something about those isolated, crisp noises just sends chills down my spine. It's very strange, but an added bonus, I suppose...
Who the heck suggested lock picking ASMR? It's genius!
I never thought I would like lockpicking ASMR
Yes with the microphone.. nice improvement. Goes great with the awesome camera work.
If I use T pins inside my challenge locks, I include a shim in a bag with the key. Great job on the challenge lock Andy and excellent picking Bill as always.
Matthew Wilson this is Andy...thanks for compliment and especially the suggestion of sending shims with my locks. More respectful to Bill!
I'm glad to offer any helpful information I have which I completely learned by making mistakes. I have an aftermath video from a stuck T pin stuck in the smaller diameter hole beside the fourth pin chamber on the ABUS 83 series core. (I think that hole is for disabling a master/contractor key by catching a bearing) I replaced that brass core with two new ones ordered from lockitt.com for $9.99 a piece. LOL.
Actually the funniest part is I included the shim with an 83AL/45 challenge lock I sent to Pete Restall. I warned him of that small pin hole and sent him pictures even so that he wouldn't get the T pin stuck. Two weeks later, I made the exact mistake I warned him could potentially happen.
Best guess for the glass pins is to stop people brute forcing the lock? Only other idea is that the glass pin is harder to bind.
Yes that is sick!!! I think I’ve found my new hobby. Gonna buy a bunch of different locks and invest in a nice set of picking tools
Me: Don't forget the shim. DON'T FORGET THE SHIM.
Wife: Don't forget what? Am I going to the store?
I hope Bill is enjoying his retirement!! In the meantime, I’m starting to rewatch his videos! I saw this when it was brand new and it’s still an awesome video!!
unique pinning, great pick Mr.Bill
Looks like a split response on the mic placement, but most of the negative response just said that it was hard to hear your voice. Give it another shot! Thanks for listening to your viewers, it makes a difference :)
Alright now that was a good intro, short sweet and to the point. Hope you keep it.
Just ordered a Sparrows beginner kit. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
He wallowed out 4 and 6 so he could choose the binding order, regardless of which direction you were applying tension. It looks sloppy, but it's actually quite clever.
Wouldn’t super smooth glass more likely drop back down when getting reverse rotation on another pin
even with headphones, the mic near the lock was great!
What will be next, glass springs?
No, a Dashiell Hammett novel.
they make glass springs.....ive seen one at corning..size of a truck spring. they had a bowling ball sized ball bouncing on it.
@Pyroman / Glass is a ceramic. 😉
I would pay to see that.
Hot shit
when he bites the glass pin and you hear a crunch, made me cringe. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You have absolutely incredible talent
Lovely lock! Wish I has the skills to pick it. I'm still working on basic locks.
Now we can watch Bill pick the lock as we also look at what could be a chain mail scrotum. omfg. @ 2:52 the audio improved 100% when you moved the mic. Invest in a contact mic, if you want the viewers to hear the clicks, but please let us hear your running comments also.
its so much fun watch u pickn locks.
Amazing, We have never been able to pick one of these just off the shelf...let alone this spider's web
the glass is usually on vault doors it is to stop brute force attempts it will brake and jam the lock
There seems to be lots of confusion about glass used in safes so I'll respond to this comment at random. The glass anti-drill plate does not jam any part of the mechanism in a safe. Large steel rods propelled by heavy springs are released when the glass is broken. The glass merely moves out of the way so that stronger materials can engage and "jam the lock."
Microphone: "I can't see a thing Bill!"
5:48 "He said SHIM IT!!!"
Whew
The glass pins look like they could be used as an anti-bump key feature, though I think it might break the pins. Great video as always though!
John Keo Depending on the situation having a lock that fails shut when bumped might be the perferred option. A lock can always be drilled out and replaced by the owner.
really love the new mic positioning
I'd say that glass pin in combination with the threading means that the glass pin would eventually grind itself down faster than metal does. This means the lock has to be changed every so often, or else the glass pin will shatter (or grind itself down completely) and you'd be S.O.L. trying to unlock it even with the key. The glass pin didn't present any anti-pick challenges, so it must serve another purpose. That's just speculation on my part though. I have never seen any locks with "forced expiration" devices inside.
Glass is more hard than brass, FYI
have headphones and loved the sounds. that was really good stuff.
It's DJ Bill on the mike..... LOL!!!! The way you popped microphone makes you look like a Pro DJ buddy. Never knew you had a set up like that. Great picking and WOW!!!!! interesting pins glass wise, wonder how they were made?
waddac2 this is Andy....to answer your question the pins were made from the stem within light bulbs. The stem the two wires are connected to...just broke it and filed as needed.
I think the serrations were actually on 4 (after it got turned around and he started pulling pins from the back). Also, the glass pins may not have much effect on SPP, but might the idea have been to defeat a bump key? Unfortunately, glass is harder than brass, I think the idea could work, just need weaker glass.
hardness doesn't mean it won't break. Tensile and compressive strength aren't usually directly proportional to hardness. So the glass will still break first.
@@craigcrissman4651 Exactly. Diamond is the hardest known material, but it shatters quite easily.
Use a Prince Rupert's Drop for the pins so that the key only engages the glass pins a specific way, and anything other than that key-to-pin interface causes the picking interaction to shatter the pins.
I wonder if glass pin would hold up against that powered vibratory lock pick you showed recently, or would it crack/pulverize and mess up the lock.
Glass pins could be used as a way to break the pin and lock and grind the core to a stand still if it turns into sand. Use more brittle glass just enough to throw off the lock picker.
I've noticed you have a sh*t ton of pinning trays at your disposal, i'm new to the world of pickin' thanks to all your glorious videos Bosnianbill! I love the wood trays you have, if you ever feel like sending a noob one of your trays lmk:)
"I'mma bite this." *bites* "Its glass guys!"
Bosnianbill is a legend.
I really like the microphone near the lock. stay safe and stay legal!
I didn’t know that wanted the mic down there.
But I’m happy you did.
I really liked when you put the microphone close to the keyway (at 1:40) and all the picking noises were audible. Could you do a video where you pick any entire lock with the microphone close by?
ASMR video, never thought this would happen.
Would you recommend starting with a vice, or doing it all by hand?
Charles Dodd I would recommend it. I started out without one and learned the basics, but with a vise (I have the same one Bill does (Panavise 350)) you get a much better feel for security pins and feedback is easier for me to notice.
i ordered a lock picking starter set from sparrows, comes with 3 cores and of course picks and the turning things :P (drawing a blank, bare with me) having to hold the cores in my hand AND try to pick them is not ez. also not ez when i try picking a lock while holding it. its practical but not so ez to learn on id say. would be nice if i had a vice and i would get one if i had the money. Just some info for you for someone else's perspective.
My 2 cents... I would suggest starting out in your hand. I seem to get more feedback that way. However, with locks with strong core tension such as this one, (American 1100 series), the vise is the way to go, (my hand tends to cramp). Again, my 2 cents but whatever works for you.
Your cramp remark reminded me, it also depends on what kind of tension tool you use. Using top of the keyway in your hand is pretty awkward unless you put a bend in it, while bottom of the keyway is easier to use without a vise (unless you are left handed).
Cam Mason Lefty here, pick with pins down makes everything easier
Glass? That's Diamond! Lol imagine how expensive that lock would be.
The wallowing is something I've considered doing to cause false sets when a lock is tensioned with out a key.
If I get bored enough I might make one with threaded-rod, or similar.
Just started pickling locks a few days ago. Found the 1105 (ALC) and then see this video. RIP
If the tolerance was much tighter it would be tough to pick. The sloppier the easier to pick actually.
i pray you are the one thats breaks into my home first
are the over the top intros a somekind of running joke?
I heard they were fan-made openings, and he just adds them in randomly..
Do you think the intention of the glass pin is that, perhaps upon a forced and speedy raking the glass pin might break a bit? Rendering any (and maybe unknowingly) further attempts at picking futile?
With seeing pin 3, my first thought was, "Lite-Brite!"
I loved hearing the pins and I'm sure you'll figure out a way to get 2 microphones going soon, I am subscribed!
Have a hollow glass tube keypin(made from dropper pippete) with Ricin inside, so if it breaks the thief is going to die...
For the ricin to be effective it would have to be either ingested, inhaled, or injected. Injection being the most effective method.
That's what would happen(ingestion),when you test it with your teeth to see if it is glass or plastic.😂
Awesome video. I wonder what other materials could be used? What if a rubber or plastic was used, something that was give a squishy feel when picking?
Bill may be a good idea to get a small mic and attatch it to the vice, two sound feeds, voice and clear clickity clicks of the locks.
wow I really like the sound of the mic next to the lock
Nice Mike set
I wonder about a spiral keyed core, the key goes in like a corkscrew, adding more pin possibility, i bet that would be endlessly frustrating to pick
That's a cool idea.
Might need some kind of dual-mic setup. I like hearing the pins, but, I prefer hearing your explanations as you're picking.
Have you considered applying a transducer mic to the lock in order to hear what's happening inside?
Wood pins are where it's at 👍
that was interesting. i had no idea what
was inside a lock.
Oh heck yeah, lock pickin' sounds
Would having glass pins keep the lock from being raked?
It could have been even more interesting if that glass had broken during your ministrations. Would the key still work? Thanks Bill.
what are those tension wrenches called that you used, with the little notch in? Great videos.
and so, the first ever "lockpick asmr" was made.
So what purpose do the threads have? Do they just get the pin hung up a little bit easier to make it harder to pick? That's what I'm assuming. I'm no expert and I only started learning lock picking like a month ago
That was a lot of special work, but it opened quick.
Great review
i wonder if the glass pins would be a deterent against physical attacks i.e. auto pickers if the pins break then it could cause ofher complications with the glass fragments
That one pin reminds me of the spike part of an old fashioned lightbrite