Hey Bill. I heard you have retired and I heard the story behind it. I wish you and your family all the best for the future. You are a good man with a beautiful family. You were the very first lock picker I watched on UA-cam and I learned a lot. Be well, be strong, be safe. Cheers David.
My lock picking journey began with slight interest in how locks work, a roommates drunken Amazon purchase of lock picks, and of course watching your videos. Bill, thank you for your years of service to the community and the immeasurable amount of knowledge you've shared.
Greetings, Bill! Thank you for all of time and effort you put into making all of these videos over the years. They've been extremely informative and inspiring! I wish you and your family the best! Enjoy your retirement!
Bosnian Bill, thanks for getting me into locksport. I've trained many with the knowledge, tips and tricks that you've passed on. You are by far one of the best presenters on the tube. We'll all miss you. You ROCK! Enjoy retirement and family. Stay safe & stay legal.
Sir Bill, you are among those cherished few who are bastions of incredible common sense and realistic information for those of us who are eternal students. Please stay safe and well.
Phew! well done Bill on biting the bullet-If people are really into challenge locks,there is no reason why they could not set up their own channel-I'm sure you would put a link to it is you were asked politely. I must say I always enjoyed your "on the road" videos and the machining and shooting stuff! Your recent exploration into leever locks (sorry!) got my attention but may not be everyone's cup of tea-Can't please everyone. It's your unfailing politeness and charm that comes across so well that makes this channel what it is-thanks.
Thanks for the explanation. I follow you for just about a year and I always wondered about you saying "as you know, I do not work on challenge locks any longer...".
I had always heard you say you quit doing challenge locks, and I was always curious why but could never find a post going into it. Now I know, and everything is 100% valid in my mind. It was more a curiosity as to why, but never a complaint. I've loved your channel for several years now, and you continue to make it interesting and show off some really neat locks and picking techniques. Thank you for everything, and keep up the great work!
Bill Your rationale and explanation are solid - and it makes sound business sense. For what it's worth, I agree that many of the locks were tired copies. I did see some interesting concepts over time and learned some new things - but understand your frustration as well. Ultimately I will continue to support you and the lab - I enjoy the videos and look forward to the new ones. I know you will keep up the good work and hope that you end up being refreshed with the new challenges as well. Thanks for all that you do.
The final BosnianBill video that he posted with an original intro animation, what a legend. But how? How did he make SO MANY animated intros for each video. Insane dedication my man. I salute you
bill you are the best I found about 10 years ago you tort me a lot even EU locks locks Ruko and more i pick locks for fun ewery day for fun ill miss you all the best wisses from Denmark
Hey Bill, I hope you enjoy all that extra time you're going to have. Yours was the first channel I discovered on the dark art of lock picking, as you do I went down that UA-cam rabbit hole and spent hours watching you pop open locks with what seemed to be considerable ease ( oh how wrong I was, as I discovered after getting a set of picks and a clear training lock😂). Thanks for all your time and effort over the years. Wishing you a long and happy retirement
Bill, thank you for doing the right thing when it had to be very tough. You are greatly missed thank you for being a person with integrity and enjoy retirement.
I loved the challenge lock videos SO SO much but I understand Bill. Would be nice to see one every once and a while 😉 maybe have a contest and pick someone to make a challenge lock with some rules, guidelines and limitations
Hey Bill, I subscribed from you for the learning experience. The challenge locks were just an extra piece of that, but not necessary! The reasons listed are more than enough to move on, good choice. Can't wait to see more from this channel! Keep up the great job!
Bill, I understand your reasoning well. While I wish this weren't the case I certainly cannot fault you for this decision. I really appreciate you posting these last three. Thank you for the great videos, challenge, review, making stuff, and otherwise. You really did spark my interest in locksport ironically with these challenge locks. You'll continue to have my support until I stop getting paychecks or you stop making videos, whichever comes first.
Bill enjoy your retirement, you will be greatly missed, I have enjoyed your videos for years, and just thought I would like to extend my thanks to you…
Bill, if you're keeping track of how many people you've inspired to start picking locks, +1 for me. Thanks for all you've done through the years. Enjoy your retirement!
Good day sir,. Thank you for sharing this lock. I had never thought about using a screw for pins, but I can see how evil that could be. I don't think I would (could) mix threaded chambers with screw pins.
Bill, good for you for stepping up and helping that family. I as a child went through that so many times. There wasnt alway someone to step up the way you did, and the ones that did were never perfect, but they were willing to step up, and because they did im a better person than i think i would have been. And a person has to know their limits in life. Obviously we all WANT continuing content from you, buf hell man you pumped it out for how many years? Let them have that. If you and the woman drive each other crazy a year or five from now mayhaps you will put out some more vijeos for your own edification and our enjoyment. Untill then.... stay safe and stay legal.
Tough decision, but I think a great one. I love your channel and it has gotten me into the hobby, but even I bored of the challenge locks that weren't even challenges - they were cobbled together trap pins to get a paclock as you said. I lost interest. This refresh is a welcome change and I love the collabs with LPL. Whatever decision you make you will loose on the internet, so I'm glad you made one and are sticking to it - it is definitely for the better. Keep up the amazing channel!
You've made the right call. I enjoyed the challenge lock videos less than any of your other ones - it was interesting to see some of the great talent out there, but like you say - wading through 10 of the nasty ones for 1 great one just isn't worth it. And the return postage alone is justification enough! Looking forward to more of your instructional and advice videos as well as the "here's a product you might not have seen before" ones :)
Yep all those reasons add up to a very understandable decision. Hopefully it will allow you to focus on other kinds of videos without the burden of a pile of challenge challenge locks vying for your time/focus. Maybe you can add a forum page to the lock-lab website that would allow people to exchange email addresses to swap challenge locks among themselves, or refer to another forum that might already be setup to do that? Keep all the great videos coming. The collaboration with LPL to create a new tool was especially fascinating.
Challenge Lock Registry. Select your skill level and receive an address to which to send a lock at the same time as someone gets your address. Give one get one. Bill is only out the requisite web hosting (already paid for) and everyone mostly wins.
Jeff K and Dan Bowkley Yes, I considered hosting a forum when I started up the LockLab website (it is an inexpensive add-in module) and discussed it with several other forum operators. I decided not to implement it for two reasons: 1. Time. Moderating forums takes up a lot of time. Some of the moderators say that it adds up to a full-time job keeping the forums focused and keeping spammers away from it. I went so far as to interview possible moderators, but once they discovered the time requirement, they backed out. 2. GDPR. The General Data Protection Regulation was implemented in May 2018 and has SEVERE penalties for violations. I cannot store personal information of any kind, to include email address, on my website's server. A single violation can result in fines up to $2000. There are exceptions, of course, but the paperwork and reporting requirements are quite burdensome, and time-consuming. I removed the LockLab's messaging module to avoid legal exposure to GDPR violations.
Dang. I'm not sure i understand what you are saying about taping so the seretaed pin gets stuck. Did dustin drilled the hole and did not go deed enough? Thank you. Any one can answer. 😃
I fully understand your decision. What I don't understand is why anyone sending you a challenge lock wouldn't include prepaid return packaging, or other means for you to return them without being out of pocket. Maybe it's just me, but I'd consider that a basic courtesy.
I've only seen three. I hope he's ok. Strange how we get attached to someone we don't really know, I have a few that I feel like they're friends even though they don't know me at all.
Doesn't explain why the site is down but the reason he hasn't been around is definitely a sad sad situation. He's touched on it somewhere but this is where I caught it.😢 8:41 ua-cam.com/video/nLa73iPv8dk/v-deo.html
Hey Bill, Let me start with, aaaahhhh wtf?? I find the challenge-lock videos really great. With my technical knowledge as 3D draftsman mechanical engineering I can really enjoy the complexity of some locks. Sometimes it is so brilliant that I think, the maker of such a lock is a genius or just sick in the head. For me personally, I find it very unfortunate that you stop these challenge-lock videos, but your well-founded explanation why you 'must' stop this is completely clear to me. It will not have been easy to stop these videos because when I hear you talking, you kick on some of those challenge-locks, I like. Luckily you make a lot more beautiful video clips and I'm not tired of it yet. What started 3 years ago (or what do I say, I think it's been a lot longer) with a random clip i stumbled upon on UA-cam has become a daily occupational therapy including a subscription to your youtube page. In the meantime I have gained a nice collection of locks, picks and other attributes, and I finally have a real hobby. Thank you, please continue with the cool videos!
Sorry to hear that you're quitting the challenge videos. It was one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel. It was one of the things that set you apart from the other lockpicking channels. I understand that cost are a factor in the decision (no one else has give-aways). Your videos are the whole reason I got interested in locksport. I will continue to support you and look forward to what lies ahead Bill. "Be safe & keep it legal!" 😉
I will admit, I'll miss the really weird ones...there were some that just amazed me with their elegant ways to be downright nasty. And I'm going to spend quite a while kicking myself for not getting my "Chubb Detector meets Best IC" idea out the door in time. But...you're right, challenge locks are a bit of a niche and probably scare the newcomers more than anything. Maybe an occasional lock that needs not be returned, from a somewhat vetted maker?
Dan Bowkley Yeah, I'll miss the really weird ones too, but wading through 50 or 100 junk locks to find one good one took up too much time and treasure. I do have a few vetted makers that will continue to send in the occasional innovation (which I will show off - but not as a challenge lock), but won't accept any more poorly constructed, slapped together Kwiksets full of threaded chambers and screws (the most common submission).
I think your uploads are glitched Mr. Bill. This vid is labeled private, but I can see it without special permissions. You may need to check this batch of uploads, sir.
How about accepting more challenge locks under some conditions? Like a return box with postal stamp in the package? And the sender has to assure, that an interesting feature will be in the lock. I guess, most lock pickers are honorable and would not abuse this by sending you crap locks. I would like to see more interesting challenge locks.
Great video bill. So are u planning on doing more challenge lock videos again? If so then Ive got a lock from a Lighthouse for u to try picking. Great title for a video.
Something seems odd it's from 5 hours ago with comments 2 years ago. I learned alot from your videos. Valid decisions. I have always dreamed of making a challenge for you though.
"only available to locklab supporters" Then why did this show up in my recommended feed? I mean, I do somewhat enjoy lock videos, but idk if I've ever seen any from this channel before... Hope things are alright, since several other comments are saying things appear to be going strangely behind the scenes...
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Hey Bill. I heard you have retired and I heard the story behind it.
I wish you and your family all the best for the future. You are a good man with a beautiful family.
You were the very first lock picker I watched on UA-cam and I learned a lot.
Be well, be strong, be safe. Cheers David.
My lock picking journey began with slight interest in how locks work, a roommates drunken Amazon purchase of lock picks, and of course watching your videos.
Bill, thank you for your years of service to the community and the immeasurable amount of knowledge you've shared.
Happy retirement. You will be missed.
Enjoy your time with family and friends knowing your legacy will live on.
Congrats on your retirement Bill!!!
We greatly appreciate the knowledge you shared with us.
Now go party! 🕺
Greetings, Bill!
Thank you for all of time and effort you put into making all of these videos over the years. They've been extremely informative and inspiring!
I wish you and your family the best! Enjoy your retirement!
Bosnian Bill, thanks for getting me into locksport. I've trained many with the knowledge, tips and tricks that you've passed on. You are by far one of the best presenters on the tube. We'll all miss you. You ROCK! Enjoy retirement and family. Stay safe & stay legal.
It’s sad to see you go, but I’m happy that you’re spending more time with what matters to you!
Thanks Bill.
Your presence is both felt as well as missed. Hope you and loved ones are well.
Thanks for sharing so much with me and everyone you will.be missed but fully support your decision
Was getting worried about you, glad you're back!
Happy Retirement! I’ve enjoyed your videos, your humor, and your skill. Thank you
Sir Bill, you are among those cherished few who are bastions of incredible common sense and realistic information for those of us who are eternal students. Please stay safe and well.
Thank you BB for all your content! Be safe, healthy and joyful in your very well deserved retirement!
Phew! well done Bill on biting the bullet-If people are really into challenge locks,there is no reason why they could not set up their own channel-I'm sure you would put a link to it is you were asked politely.
I must say I always enjoyed your "on the road" videos and the machining and shooting stuff!
Your recent exploration into leever locks (sorry!) got my attention but may not be everyone's cup of tea-Can't please everyone.
It's your unfailing politeness and charm that comes across so well that makes this channel what it is-thanks.
Thanks for the explanation. I follow you for just about a year and I always wondered about you saying "as you know, I do not work on challenge locks any longer...".
Thank you for all your work and wonderful content. You got me into a hobby I'll do for the rest of my life and greatly appreciate that.
Appreciate the work and time you have put into my learning sir! You have made a wise choice!
I had always heard you say you quit doing challenge locks, and I was always curious why but could never find a post going into it. Now I know, and everything is 100% valid in my mind. It was more a curiosity as to why, but never a complaint. I've loved your channel for several years now, and you continue to make it interesting and show off some really neat locks and picking techniques. Thank you for everything, and keep up the great work!
Bill
Your rationale and explanation are solid - and it makes sound business sense. For what it's worth, I agree that many of the locks were tired copies. I did see some interesting concepts over time and learned some new things - but understand your frustration as well.
Ultimately I will continue to support you and the lab - I enjoy the videos and look forward to the new ones. I know you will keep up the good work and hope that you end up being refreshed with the new challenges as well. Thanks for all that you do.
These might not be private
The final BosnianBill video that he posted with an original intro animation, what a legend. But how? How did he make SO MANY animated intros for each video. Insane dedication my man. I salute you
bill you are the best I found about 10 years ago you tort me a lot even EU locks locks Ruko and more i pick locks for fun ewery day for fun ill miss you all the best wisses from Denmark
Hey Bill, I hope you enjoy all that extra time you're going to have. Yours was the first channel I discovered on the dark art of lock picking, as you do I went down that UA-cam rabbit hole and spent hours watching you pop open locks with what seemed to be considerable ease ( oh how wrong I was, as I discovered after getting a set of picks and a clear training lock😂).
Thanks for all your time and effort over the years. Wishing you a long and happy retirement
I like how he give tips on how to make it harder to pick.
8:40.. that pin looks like it came out of the sparrows "chess and checkers pieces" set.
Bill, thank you for teaching us the joys of lock picking. Enjoy your retirement
Bill, love ya man! Glad you are back to having fun again.
Bill, thank you for doing the right thing when it had to be very tough. You are greatly missed thank you for being a person with integrity and enjoy retirement.
Bill I watch everything you and a number of others offer on UA-cam. I watch to learn more about the hobby and I enjoy the reviews of new tools.
I loved the challenge lock videos SO SO much but I understand Bill. Would be nice to see one every once and a while 😉 maybe have a contest and pick someone to make a challenge lock with some rules, guidelines and limitations
Yes!!! A few more challenge locks!! Awesome! Thanks Bill!
Great to see your channel up and running and your very interesting UA-cam channel, keep the good work up.
Hey Bill, I subscribed from you for the learning experience. The challenge locks were just an extra piece of that, but not necessary! The reasons listed are more than enough to move on, good choice. Can't wait to see more from this channel! Keep up the great job!
Bill, I understand your reasoning well. While I wish this weren't the case I certainly cannot fault you for this decision. I really appreciate you posting these last three. Thank you for the great videos, challenge, review, making stuff, and otherwise. You really did spark my interest in locksport ironically with these challenge locks. You'll continue to have my support until I stop getting paychecks or you stop making videos, whichever comes first.
I'd still like to see an occasional challenge lock video, they where always my favorite. But I understand that everyone doesn't feel the same.
Bill enjoy your retirement, you will be greatly missed, I have enjoyed your videos for years, and just thought I would like to extend my thanks to you…
Bill, if you're keeping track of how many people you've inspired to start picking locks, +1 for me. Thanks for all you've done through the years. Enjoy your retirement!
Good day sir,. Thank you for sharing this lock. I had never thought about using a screw for pins, but I can see how evil that could be. I don't think I would (could) mix threaded chambers with screw pins.
thanks for all the hard work, gl on your retirement!
Bill, good for you for stepping up and helping that family. I as a child went through that so many times. There wasnt alway someone to step up the way you did, and the ones that did were never perfect, but they were willing to step up, and because they did im a better person than i think i would have been.
And a person has to know their limits in life. Obviously we all WANT continuing content from you, buf hell man you pumped it out for how many years? Let them have that. If you and the woman drive each other crazy a year or five from now mayhaps you will put out some more vijeos for your own edification and our enjoyment. Untill then.... stay safe and stay legal.
Came here just to say, even after a couple years, we remember you bill.
Tough decision, but I think a great one. I love your channel and it has gotten me into the hobby, but even I bored of the challenge locks that weren't even challenges - they were cobbled together trap pins to get a paclock as you said. I lost interest. This refresh is a welcome change and I love the collabs with LPL. Whatever decision you make you will loose on the internet, so I'm glad you made one and are sticking to it - it is definitely for the better. Keep up the amazing channel!
Thanks for the confirmation, I appreciate the feedback.👍
I agree. While I didn't get tired of the challenge locks, if it's hurting the channel growth, then there's no question they need to stop.
You've made the right call. I enjoyed the challenge lock videos less than any of your other ones - it was interesting to see some of the great talent out there, but like you say - wading through 10 of the nasty ones for 1 great one just isn't worth it. And the return postage alone is justification enough! Looking forward to more of your instructional and advice videos as well as the "here's a product you might not have seen before" ones :)
🙏
Yep all those reasons add up to a very understandable decision. Hopefully it will allow you to focus on other kinds of videos without the burden of a pile of challenge challenge locks vying for your time/focus.
Maybe you can add a forum page to the lock-lab website that would allow people to exchange email addresses to swap challenge locks among themselves, or refer to another forum that might already be setup to do that?
Keep all the great videos coming. The collaboration with LPL to create a new tool was especially fascinating.
Challenge Lock Registry. Select your skill level and receive an address to which to send a lock at the same time as someone gets your address. Give one get one. Bill is only out the requisite web hosting (already paid for) and everyone mostly wins.
Jeff K and Dan Bowkley Yes, I considered hosting a forum when I started up the LockLab website (it is an inexpensive add-in module) and discussed it with several other forum operators. I decided not to implement it for two reasons:
1. Time. Moderating forums takes up a lot of time. Some of the moderators say that it adds up to a full-time job keeping the forums focused and keeping spammers away from it. I went so far as to interview possible moderators, but once they discovered the time requirement, they backed out.
2. GDPR. The General Data Protection Regulation was implemented in May 2018 and has SEVERE penalties for violations. I cannot store personal information of any kind, to include email address, on my website's server. A single violation can result in fines up to $2000. There are exceptions, of course, but the paperwork and reporting requirements are quite burdensome, and time-consuming. I removed the LockLab's messaging module to avoid legal exposure to GDPR violations.
@@bosnianbill query: how did this email retention rule from the GDPR effect the email addresses collected in your give away form?
Dang. I'm not sure i understand what you are saying about taping so the seretaed pin gets stuck. Did dustin drilled the hole and did not go deed enough? Thank you.
Any one can answer. 😃
Who would have thought to turn a pick upside down in a challenge lock to pick it open?
Bosnialbill that's who 😆👍🏻
Why were these vids made public? I'm just a subscriber and not a supporter. Comments on here are from two years ago so this have been up for awhile.
Bill you will be missed
I fully understand your decision. What I don't understand is why anyone sending you a challenge lock wouldn't include prepaid return packaging, or other means for you to return them without being out of pocket. Maybe it's just me, but I'd consider that a basic courtesy.
Its odd how the locklab site seems to be down right now and bill suddenly threw in 12 otherwise private video's?
Maybe it's a call for help. Bill, are you being held hostage?
I have a feeling either hes hacked or... somethings wrong with him/his family and/or friends.
I've only seen three. I hope he's ok.
Strange how we get attached to someone we don't really know, I have a few that I feel like they're friends even though they don't know me at all.
Doesn't explain why the site is down but the reason he hasn't been around is definitely a sad sad situation. He's touched on it somewhere but this is where I caught it.😢
8:41
ua-cam.com/video/nLa73iPv8dk/v-deo.html
@@BCM1959 I feel like that too
he's torturing you LOL
Hey Bill,
Let me start with, aaaahhhh wtf??
I find the challenge-lock videos really great.
With my technical knowledge as 3D draftsman mechanical engineering I can really enjoy the complexity of some locks.
Sometimes it is so brilliant that I think, the maker of such a lock is a genius or just sick in the head.
For me personally, I find it very unfortunate that you stop these challenge-lock videos, but your well-founded explanation why you 'must' stop this is completely clear to me.
It will not have been easy to stop these videos because when I hear you talking, you kick on some of those challenge-locks, I like.
Luckily you make a lot more beautiful video clips and I'm not tired of it yet.
What started 3 years ago (or what do I say, I think it's been a lot longer) with a random clip i stumbled upon on UA-cam has become a daily occupational therapy including a subscription to your youtube page.
In the meantime I have gained a nice collection of locks, picks and other attributes, and I finally have a real hobby.
Thank you, please continue with the cool videos!
Still under the impression hacking took place. This video is 2 years old. Private and released with a number of videos. Seems out of place.
Sorry to hear that you're quitting the challenge videos. It was one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel. It was one of the things that set you apart from the other lockpicking channels. I understand that cost are a factor in the decision (no one else has give-aways). Your videos are the whole reason I got interested in locksport. I will continue to support you and look forward to what lies ahead Bill. "Be safe & keep it legal!" 😉
How the bloody hell are ya?, Checked ya YT for activity this morning & 3mins later content eruption, nice, great to see, cheers
Doesnt seem private to me
I will admit, I'll miss the really weird ones...there were some that just amazed me with their elegant ways to be downright nasty. And I'm going to spend quite a while kicking myself for not getting my "Chubb Detector meets Best IC" idea out the door in time. But...you're right, challenge locks are a bit of a niche and probably scare the newcomers more than anything.
Maybe an occasional lock that needs not be returned, from a somewhat vetted maker?
Dan Bowkley Yeah, I'll miss the really weird ones too, but wading through 50 or 100 junk locks to find one good one took up too much time and treasure. I do have a few vetted makers that will continue to send in the occasional innovation (which I will show off - but not as a challenge lock), but won't accept any more poorly constructed, slapped together Kwiksets full of threaded chambers and screws (the most common submission).
I think your uploads are glitched Mr. Bill. This vid is labeled private, but I can see it without special permissions. You may need to check this batch of uploads, sir.
How about accepting more challenge locks under some conditions? Like a return box with postal stamp in the package? And the sender has to assure, that an interesting feature will be in the lock. I guess, most lock pickers are honorable and would not abuse this by sending you crap locks.
I would like to see more interesting challenge locks.
Chey adkend
Great video bill. So are u planning on doing more challenge lock videos again? If so then Ive got a lock from a Lighthouse for u to try picking. Great title for a video.
Ooops. This video is not private.
Something seems odd it's from 5 hours ago with comments 2 years ago.
I learned alot from your videos. Valid decisions. I have always dreamed of making a challenge for you though.
"only available to locklab supporters"
Then why did this show up in my recommended feed? I mean, I do somewhat enjoy lock videos, but idk if I've ever seen any from this channel before...
Hope things are alright, since several other comments are saying things appear to be going strangely behind the scenes...
(PRIVATE)?
@@griffon2-6 nah
That's what she said
it doesnt make sense to me that you had to return the locks tbh. respectable decision anyways
Enjoy retirement!
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