Quality stuff. I would throw a piece of advice of my own, perhaps worth including in weaponry: Some helicopters have very high gunner FOV but AGM launch is limited to a small sector of it. You can double tap (perhaps a second or two of delay is required depending on helicopter) hover key to quickly align helicopter with wherever you are pointing your mouse at, to enable firing. Hover mode controls work nicely from within gunner view too.
After grinding the UHT tiger in the space of a month without a premium heli (do not try to do it, its painful) i have found a few tricks which are quite useful for starter type helis (helis with AGM, no AAM, and minimal-no guns) that you could add to your list or take into account when you make the combat heli video: 1) Don't use hover unless you have to - it makes you a very nice target for enemy ground and with the reduced movement it can get you killed because you didn't dodge something. The only times i have found hovering to be of use is to either fire PARS 3 (not really starter heli weaponry, but it is a use), or when your gear is broken and you have to land (if you're within 4m of the base and basically stationary, you will rearm/repair). 2) stay at almost your missile's max range - if you have SS-11 stay at 3.25+km away etc, this cannot be overstated enough. When you get close you generally die, so when you're at range most spaa cant touch you (if you dodge). It is sometimes hard to stay away because you're always drifting forward, but as an alternative: go up or sideways. Sideways makes you passively dodge most tanks that want to try to shoot you with their Laser range finder (after they shoot change your direction/speed a bit so you are harder to hit); Whereas going up (to a certain height) allows you to have better visibility of the battlefield, aim your missiles for the enemies roof, and for helis like the Alouette and Huey, make use of your almost vertically downward firing missiles and camera. 3) be so aggressive it seems like you don't care if you die - I have tried to play cat and mouse, or hide and seek with enemy aircraft before; and it generally doesn't work out well for me, because of how easy it is to see other aircraft, planes can sometimes even spot you if you have landed somewhere and turned off your engine, and you often don't get many kills while trying to hide so it's basically a waste of time. Instead, i have found it more lucrative to as many engage enemy tanks as you can as quickly as you can then RTB, if there are enemy planes then ignore them while watching what the do - dodge if the try to attack you, heck even send a missile at them (even if it probably wont hit) to scare them off! (it'll mean you have to rearm sooner, although its probably for the best. 4) have your doors open - seems like a small thing, but it allows you to hear stuff outside of the heli while inside the camera view... such as enemy planes or even enemy helis (i have had a few occasions when a heli has chased my heli which doesn't end well for me when its an AH1G- because for some reason helibase AA doesn't damage starter helis). having your doors open can also be a sort of feedback of dodging quality, when evading a gun SPAA's (like the gepard or marksman etc) bullets - sharp cracking means they were very close, hearing them means they were kind of close. I know some people will hate #5 but as it is a complex meta-strategy that separates the best from the best i am gonna cover it: 5) target certain players - changing which target you need to engage depending on what the game is like, how they are doing and what they are playing. This is more than just a "kill spaa because they can kill you" sort of thing, instead you want to target people that will cause the biggest threat to you in the future. I will run 2 scenarios: 5.1) So if an enemy is doing very well in a vehicle (say they are a falcon with 5 kills), I wouldn't engage them unless my team had spaa to kill their plane (assuming they will spawn a plane)... say after you kill them they spawn a plane and die to a friendly spaa, the next thing would be to try to affect their ability to win the game - target their next vehicle so they lose spawn points and hopefully leave the game (allowing your team to have an easier time trying to win). 5.2) If the enemy doesn't have any "super" players on it when you are preparing to engage (people with lots of kills or even just from a high squadron like NIKE, IML, RO6, THC etc), you want to target and remove someone, who isnt gonna have many spawn points, from contention (so they wont spawn a plane after you kill them). This often involves killing their first tank, then their next tank (if they choose a tank), then their SPAA - this will either completely remove them from the game or drain their spawn points so much they will not be able to recover into a plane. o7 cya on the battlefield
@@brandonfitzgerald8705 as a vTHCv sergeant i personally take offence to that. But i have no regrets in saying that you need to target these people, even if im on the enemy team...
I'm not sure how I missed this video but better late than never. When I first got radar equipped jets I used your radar guide to set up key binds and learn how to use the missiles so I'll be doing the same for helis with this guide. Thank Tim!
I'm glad you covered this topic! I've had a basic idea of helicopter flight and controls ever since my days playing Comanche 4 as a kid, but I've never really researched the terminology or the details of how it all works. This gives me a much better idea, and I'm starting to get the hang of it with the A129 I got from the winter sale. The weapons part still confuses me a bit, so I can't wait to see Part 2. Once again, thanks so much for the informative videos!
Many tanks for this explanation video. I now understand, how the technichs work and how to steer the heli at WT and why I'm always loosing altitude. I don't understand this before and ddid not know this behaviuor from other Heli sims like Comanche.
I say it in every heli match and I'll say it here too: don't bother grinding the heli tree if you don't have a premium, and please don't buy a premium with your own money. Don't support the current state of heli battles, use GJN coins to get them for free. No heli is worth the years of terrible grinding it would take; plus, if you're looking at top tier helis for ground RB, there'll be modern strike jets in the game literally years before you get there by normal tech tree grinding. Some tips for playing helis anyways: -Don't buy the Peten. It's only average in heli EC, and at 10.7 it has trouble fitting into a non-top tier lineup for ground RB. Instead, earn yourself a YAH-64 (and consider putting a talisman on it during a sale for a very nice ~1300GE). It's even less competitive for Heli EC, but at 10.3 it really shines for ground RB. It has 16 Hellfires, thermals, and a laser warning; all it lacks is MAW/countermeasures and Stingers. If you're downtiered (which 10.3 often is), you won't have to worry about many SAMs at all. With its 30mm it can easily grind Arcade Assault to unlock AGMs, then you can play it in the awesome US 10.3 lineup with the buffed IPM1. Sure, it's a little lacking compared to the Peten, but it's entirely free unless you want a Talisman (which is still only like 1/8 of the price of the Peten). -if you buy a KA-50, there's so many in EC that you can afford to only kill them and ignore lower tier targets. Unfortunately you get tiny rewards for losses, and to win you might need to kill a lower tier guy going for your team's convoys. You can always use guns tho. It's how I've been playing and it still only took a couple months to reach the KA-52. -Arcade Assault is great for stock grinds, but again your team has to win. If your vehicle only carries a couple ATGMs and nothing else, sorry, but you're still not gonna grind efficiently and your team will be worse off. If possible, bring rocket pods, as assists are more important than kills here. You can disable an entire group with well aimed rockets, giving your team plenty of time to focus on the other formations. However, if your heli has any guns with 50mm+ of pen (ex: 30mm cannons on Kamovs and Apaches, 40mm grenade launchers on AH1G), you can go for both disabling tracks and roof penning practically anything. A lot of people play their Petens and Ka-50s in this mode by sitting back with AGMs; there's really no point. They're hurting themselves and the team by limiting themselves to slow missiles because they don't want to die in this infinite-respawn mode, when they could just as easily go close range and use every weapon they're carrying to great effect. -When it comes to general gameplay, check out Hunter here on yt. He does frequent no-commentary videos of top tier CAS, showing how to use current features and responding to comments. Most importantly, you can see good spots for helis to set up at and paths for jets to strafe from.
Thank you for explaining the voodoo of chopper fight in War Thunder. Most of the videos I've seen are trying to teach combat techniques, but what good are combat techniques if you can't get to the battlefield.
If you ever decide to make an updated version of this take the manual roll control into it. It will drastichly improve fluent movements along hill sides and terrain in general. Also it is perfect for long kilometers wide turns. Personally i only use automatic roll control when landing because every other time in flight it just feels like i'm battling the helicopter in it's movement.
For a while I had all the flight controls on a Xbox controller and all weapons systems on my keyboard. I would have another friend control the weapons while I would focus on flying… we were like a bf4 helicopter and no one could touch us lol
I'll probably have a video up at some point about the helicopter game modes (cas, sim heli battles, etc etc), but .. yeah .. there is real pain there sometimes, especially on the smaller maps ...
Dissymmetry of lift doesn't cause the helicopter to lose control. But it does cause it pitch up. Due to a phenomenon called precession. And pitching up is what sets the speed limit. Which applies to coaxial helicopters too. Edit: spelling.
Very interesting. Helis are one part of War Thunder that I haven't touched at all, since the beginning... but with such a good explanation of the mechanics, I might give it a try. Did you ever get to do the second part of this guide? Maybe it's not just my crews' awareness skill that is lacking...
The biggest problem with sim grinding helis is that it works to a point, when you have to play the top tier sim game, where you get spawn camped by vkhirs
@@garbey nah legit...if you go at the back of their helicopter spawn they usually don't look back...unless it's a revenge kill looool. I would say tho once Russian heli sees you you pretty much dead ...unless you in uht
The way i noticed autorotation is partly in the game, but its not like u can benefit from it, do to even if u can land on a heli-pad with that condition, your heli is not getting repaired do to it says your vehicle is too critically damaged. I know this from experience do to in a game my AH-64A's tail rotor got obliterated while i was trying to land for a rearm, I managed to land by turning the engines off and pulled back hard with a high coll. I was sitting on the 2 remaining main wheels but i did not get repaired and yes I have a max repair rank with that crew! Also losing a tail on a Kamov would not be a critical damage do to it can fly without it, yet the game often classifies it as one, and starts the "countdown" saying you R dead, or (again) no repair is available if u land!
I would like correct a dissymmetry lift. helly cant roll, because gyroscopic force was delayed by a quarter turn, that mean the effect from advancing blade generate lift in front of heli. heli reduced slope and slow down :)
This was so awesome thank you! Do you have any recommendations for learning resources for the aerodynamics of combat aircraft? Preferably a textbook. Looking forward to the helicopter weapons video!
Gyroscopic procession causes dissymmetry of lift to appear longitudinally, not laterally as one might reason. I know WT doesn't model gyroscopic procession but it also doesn't model the dissymmetry of lift you described.
Excellent tutorial. You've got a new subscriber. Unfortunately though I can't seem to find the tutorial on the Helicopter weapons, is that still available?
Airplane wings are shaped to make air move faster over the top of the wing. When air moves faster, the pressure of the air decreases. So the pressure on the top of the wing is less than the pressure on the bottom of the wing. The difference in pressure creates a force on the wing that lifts the wing up into the air but helicopter fly by the grace of God.
I wish they'd just have regular Air RB for helicopters. With matchmaking and everything. That way I could at least have fun in my low tier helis and leave the 10.3+ alone to suffer Vikhr spam
The lack of matchmaking for any heli-only game mode is .. frustrating beyond all belief, and I'll be really blunt - its seriously cramped my efforts to do helicopter reviews because its almost impossible to get good footage of the low/mid tier helis doing anything but cas.
Hove you ever noticed that the pivot point of WT helis is in the center of the fuselage? Helis literally hang from the rotor. The pivot point should be much higher.
I played around trying to go into VRS a bit, but I wasn't able to make it happen when I was intentionally trying to trigger it. I'm not sure if WT doesn't model it, or if its just difficult to trigger.
@@TimsVariety Should just be a simple case of going straight down in a neutral attitude, close to the ground, right? I guess everything like that in this game is easier to trigger when you’re NOT trying to do so.
War Thunder has too many buttons now. Radar, VTOL, adjustable suspension, helicopters in general… certainly discourages me from going anywhere beyond early 1950s jets.
Hey tim im curious if you play any dcs? Ive just learned to fly helis in that game and from what i remember before quitting wt it was a bit easier in that game
Why do I get a "low rotor RPM - reduce COLL" warning? I don´t really understand the physics behind it even despite your video that covers a lot of the theory behind the flight physics
With a high collective setting, it takes more energy to rotate the blades due to wind resistance. You may need to increase throttle, or possibly its a temporary warning based on your exact flight situation at that moment, without a lot more detail its impossible to say more.
@@TimsVariety Thanks for the response. I started playing the Mi-4 and I get that warning basically every time I want to take off and put the collective setting to 100%.
@@CoIdHeat Ah, yeah that can be ignored - the Mi-4 just has a weak engine relative to its girth. You get that message sometimes on more chonky helis when taking off.
Why is it that I've never heard the word minutia in my entire life and now it's literally everywhere instantly. I can see the super overuse of the word unprecedented in everything because of the news media. But some words seem to just come out of nowhere after decades of never hearing them before they just show up everywhere in everything. Just strange
Yes, but only "regular" light aircraft (Cessnas, etc) - one of my "real life" friends who is a former US Army helicopter pilot gave this video a fact-check/proof-view before I published it though to make sure I had my stuff right. I spoke a bit about my background with aerospace education in my "5k subscribers" channel update vid
@timsvariety could you please for the luv of the game I beg you make a control setup for ps5 please all these others are garbage please I want to fly it so bad but I’m crashing getting sniped from 5 miles away please help
Quality stuff.
I would throw a piece of advice of my own, perhaps worth including in weaponry:
Some helicopters have very high gunner FOV but AGM launch is limited to a small sector of it. You can double tap (perhaps a second or two of delay is required depending on helicopter) hover key to quickly align helicopter with wherever you are pointing your mouse at, to enable firing.
Hover mode controls work nicely from within gunner view too.
Yep, useful trick - I do that myself all the time.
Thanks for your great tip.
After grinding the UHT tiger in the space of a month without a premium heli (do not try to do it, its painful) i have found a few tricks which are quite useful for starter type helis (helis with AGM, no AAM, and minimal-no guns) that you could add to your list or take into account when you make the combat heli video:
1) Don't use hover unless you have to - it makes you a very nice target for enemy ground and with the reduced movement it can get you killed because you didn't dodge something. The only times i have found hovering to be of use is to either fire PARS 3 (not really starter heli weaponry, but it is a use), or when your gear is broken and you have to land (if you're within 4m of the base and basically stationary, you will rearm/repair).
2) stay at almost your missile's max range - if you have SS-11 stay at 3.25+km away etc, this cannot be overstated enough. When you get close you generally die, so when you're at range most spaa cant touch you (if you dodge). It is sometimes hard to stay away because you're always drifting forward, but as an alternative: go up or sideways.
Sideways makes you passively dodge most tanks that want to try to shoot you with their Laser range finder (after they shoot change your direction/speed a bit so you are harder to hit);
Whereas going up (to a certain height) allows you to have better visibility of the battlefield, aim your missiles for the enemies roof, and for helis like the Alouette and Huey, make use of your almost vertically downward firing missiles and camera.
3) be so aggressive it seems like you don't care if you die - I have tried to play cat and mouse, or hide and seek with enemy aircraft before; and it generally doesn't work out well for me, because of how easy it is to see other aircraft, planes can sometimes even spot you if you have landed somewhere and turned off your engine, and you often don't get many kills while trying to hide so it's basically a waste of time.
Instead, i have found it more lucrative to as many engage enemy tanks as you can as quickly as you can then RTB, if there are enemy planes then ignore them while watching what the do - dodge if the try to attack you, heck even send a missile at them (even if it probably wont hit) to scare them off! (it'll mean you have to rearm sooner, although its probably for the best.
4) have your doors open - seems like a small thing, but it allows you to hear stuff outside of the heli while inside the camera view... such as enemy planes or even enemy helis (i have had a few occasions when a heli has chased my heli which doesn't end well for me when its an AH1G- because for some reason helibase AA doesn't damage starter helis). having your doors open can also be a sort of feedback of dodging quality, when evading a gun SPAA's (like the gepard or marksman etc) bullets - sharp cracking means they were very close, hearing them means they were kind of close.
I know some people will hate #5 but as it is a complex meta-strategy that separates the best from the best i am gonna cover it:
5) target certain players - changing which target you need to engage depending on what the game is like, how they are doing and what they are playing. This is more than just a "kill spaa because they can kill you" sort of thing, instead you want to target people that will cause the biggest threat to you in the future. I will run 2 scenarios:
5.1) So if an enemy is doing very well in a vehicle (say they are a falcon with 5 kills), I wouldn't engage them unless my team had spaa to kill their plane (assuming they will spawn a plane)... say after you kill them they spawn a plane and die to a friendly spaa, the next thing would be to try to affect their ability to win the game - target their next vehicle so they lose spawn points and hopefully leave the game (allowing your team to have an easier time trying to win).
5.2) If the enemy doesn't have any "super" players on it when you are preparing to engage (people with lots of kills or even just from a high squadron like NIKE, IML, RO6, THC etc), you want to target and remove someone, who isnt gonna have many spawn points, from contention (so they wont spawn a plane after you kill them). This often involves killing their first tank, then their next tank (if they choose a tank), then their SPAA - this will either completely remove them from the game or drain their spawn points so much they will not be able to recover into a plane.
o7
cya on the battlefield
What’s up fellow THC hater, they give weed a bad name.
@@brandonfitzgerald8705 When did i say i was against THC
@@garbey never but you called them a sweaty clan, they're gay.
@@brandonfitzgerald8705 as a vTHCv sergeant i personally take offence to that. But i have no regrets in saying that you need to target these people, even if im on the enemy team...
Very useful info that is why i dont do to much in helis because im not aggressive and i dont target specific players
"may in fact be witchcraft" killed me, lol. Awesome way of explaining things! Love it!
As always a great video ! It's just a shame that war thunder doesn't offer any interesting gamemode for helis.
Yeah, I'll be discussing that in another vid - I've gotten more than a few requests/emails/comments "how do I grind helicopters?" etc
I'm not sure how I missed this video but better late than never. When I first got radar equipped jets I used your radar guide to set up key binds and learn how to use the missiles so I'll be doing the same for helis with this guide. Thank Tim!
Man you're such a good teacher, I watched three other videos and I was more confused by the time I finished them.
I'm glad you covered this topic! I've had a basic idea of helicopter flight and controls ever since my days playing Comanche 4 as a kid, but I've never really researched the terminology or the details of how it all works. This gives me a much better idea, and I'm starting to get the hang of it with the A129 I got from the winter sale.
The weapons part still confuses me a bit, so I can't wait to see Part 2. Once again, thanks so much for the informative videos!
Keep it up Tim, you’re doing the lord’s work
Many tanks for this explanation video. I now understand, how the technichs work and how to steer the heli at WT and why I'm always loosing altitude. I don't understand this before and ddid not know this behaviuor from other Heli sims like Comanche.
I say it in every heli match and I'll say it here too: don't bother grinding the heli tree if you don't have a premium, and please don't buy a premium with your own money. Don't support the current state of heli battles, use GJN coins to get them for free. No heli is worth the years of terrible grinding it would take; plus, if you're looking at top tier helis for ground RB, there'll be modern strike jets in the game literally years before you get there by normal tech tree grinding.
Some tips for playing helis anyways:
-Don't buy the Peten. It's only average in heli EC, and at 10.7 it has trouble fitting into a non-top tier lineup for ground RB. Instead, earn yourself a YAH-64 (and consider putting a talisman on it during a sale for a very nice ~1300GE). It's even less competitive for Heli EC, but at 10.3 it really shines for ground RB. It has 16 Hellfires, thermals, and a laser warning; all it lacks is MAW/countermeasures and Stingers. If you're downtiered (which 10.3 often is), you won't have to worry about many SAMs at all. With its 30mm it can easily grind Arcade Assault to unlock AGMs, then you can play it in the awesome US 10.3 lineup with the buffed IPM1. Sure, it's a little lacking compared to the Peten, but it's entirely free unless you want a Talisman (which is still only like 1/8 of the price of the Peten).
-if you buy a KA-50, there's so many in EC that you can afford to only kill them and ignore lower tier targets. Unfortunately you get tiny rewards for losses, and to win you might need to kill a lower tier guy going for your team's convoys. You can always use guns tho. It's how I've been playing and it still only took a couple months to reach the KA-52.
-Arcade Assault is great for stock grinds, but again your team has to win. If your vehicle only carries a couple ATGMs and nothing else, sorry, but you're still not gonna grind efficiently and your team will be worse off. If possible, bring rocket pods, as assists are more important than kills here. You can disable an entire group with well aimed rockets, giving your team plenty of time to focus on the other formations. However, if your heli has any guns with 50mm+ of pen (ex: 30mm cannons on Kamovs and Apaches, 40mm grenade launchers on AH1G), you can go for both disabling tracks and roof penning practically anything. A lot of people play their Petens and Ka-50s in this mode by sitting back with AGMs; there's really no point. They're hurting themselves and the team by limiting themselves to slow missiles because they don't want to die in this infinite-respawn mode, when they could just as easily go close range and use every weapon they're carrying to great effect.
-When it comes to general gameplay, check out Hunter here on yt. He does frequent no-commentary videos of top tier CAS, showing how to use current features and responding to comments. Most importantly, you can see good spots for helis to set up at and paths for jets to strafe from.
Thank you for explaining the voodoo of chopper fight in War Thunder. Most of the videos I've seen are trying to teach combat techniques, but what good are combat techniques if you can't get to the battlefield.
Hey I made that scout skin! :p Great video!
Thats awesome!!
If you ever decide to make an updated version of this take the manual roll control into it. It will drastichly improve fluent movements along hill sides and terrain in general. Also it is perfect for long kilometers wide turns. Personally i only use automatic roll control when landing because every other time in flight it just feels like i'm battling the helicopter in it's movement.
Great stuff, thanks man! There is way more to this than I first guessed!
3:11 Helikopter Helikopter
For a while I had all the flight controls on a Xbox controller and all weapons systems on my keyboard. I would have another friend control the weapons while I would focus on flying… we were like a bf4 helicopter and no one could touch us lol
I love it!
Wait! That's illegal! :)))
How to have fun in a helicopter.
Step 1: Ignore beginner tech
Step 2: buy Ka50
Step 3: have fun.
but is the ka50 even fun?
IMO it isnt actually, grinding through tech tree helis and learning how to use them is actually fun
@@garbey *in helicopter
@@sujalshetty5986 That was what i meant, the 800 grb games i played in tech tree helis were so much more fun than the 30 i played with the ka50
i just bought my first heli Yesterday only to get crushed by a Ka-52
Yeah, that heli only mode is worthless for anything but top helis, it's terribly executed.
@@Tentacl ikr
I'll probably have a video up at some point about the helicopter game modes (cas, sim heli battles, etc etc), but .. yeah .. there is real pain there sometimes, especially on the smaller maps ...
Hmm I think algorithm is hiding this video for some reason. Glad I found it! Thanks tim.
Dissymmetry of lift doesn't cause the helicopter to lose control. But it does cause it pitch up. Due to a phenomenon called precession. And pitching up is what sets the speed limit. Which applies to coaxial helicopters too.
Edit: spelling.
I really needed this guide, I couldn't even steer the whirlybird
I live to serve :-)
Good tutorial Tims.
Very interesting. Helis are one part of War Thunder that I haven't touched at all, since the beginning... but with such a good explanation of the mechanics, I might give it a try.
Did you ever get to do the second part of this guide? Maybe it's not just my crews' awareness skill that is lacking...
Ty I needed it for sim :)
If u have a joystick I did a tutorial on my channel on it
The biggest problem with sim grinding helis is that it works to a point, when you have to play the top tier sim game, where you get spawn camped by vkhirs
@@garbey thing is if you go around to the back of enemy heli pad 1 they dont ever mess wid u...ive gotten plenty of heli kills this way against rus
@@shayzadg Never is a strong word... i have been shot while there as well, which is a painful experience
@@garbey nah legit...if you go at the back of their helicopter spawn they usually don't look back...unless it's a revenge kill looool. I would say tho once Russian heli sees you you pretty much dead ...unless you in uht
Let me know what you think on the F.C. 20 Bis! Fun 2.0 Italian Derp Plane that can face reserve tier biplanes.
I love it, its flies better than the Duck imo, and has a defensive gun.
My complements to the intelligent man. A rare instructional video that told you exactly what the title said it would do.
The way i noticed autorotation is partly in the game, but its not like u can benefit from it, do to even if u can land on a heli-pad with that condition, your heli is not getting repaired do to it says your vehicle is too critically damaged. I know this from experience do to in a game my AH-64A's tail rotor got obliterated while i was trying to land for a rearm, I managed to land by turning the engines off and pulled back hard with a high coll. I was sitting on the 2 remaining main wheels but i did not get repaired and yes I have a max repair rank with that crew! Also losing a tail on a Kamov would not be a critical damage do to it can fly without it, yet the game often classifies it as one, and starts the "countdown" saying you R dead, or (again) no repair is available if u land!
I would like correct a dissymmetry lift. helly cant roll, because gyroscopic force was delayed by a quarter turn, that mean the effect from advancing blade generate lift in front of heli. heli reduced slope and slow down :)
This was so awesome thank you! Do you have any recommendations for learning resources for the aerodynamics of combat aircraft? Preferably a textbook. Looking forward to the helicopter weapons video!
Thanks for the great explanation Tim! Did you publish part 2 (weapons) ? I cannot find it :(
Gyroscopic procession causes dissymmetry of lift to appear longitudinally, not laterally as one might reason. I know WT doesn't model gyroscopic procession but it also doesn't model the dissymmetry of lift you described.
I've got footage with the AH-1W where the dissymmetry of lift kicked in **HARD** in forward flight once it got going too fast.
Excellent tutorial. You've got a new subscriber. Unfortunately though I can't seem to find the tutorial on the Helicopter weapons, is that still available?
Nope I don’t think so, or he never made it
now id love to see you play the helos in dcs :)
Airplane wings are shaped to make air move faster over the top of the wing. When air moves faster, the pressure of the air decreases. So the pressure on the top of the wing is less than the pressure on the bottom of the wing. The difference in pressure creates a force on the wing that lifts the wing up into the air but helicopter fly by the grace of God.
.. it may or may not actually be witchcraft ;-)
Tim,dam, I was hoping for a refresher on blade folds systems.
Me who's got an embarrassing amount of hours in the first Cobra: *iNtErEsTiNg*
I mean I do too, but it got to the point i just gave up on helicopters
Nice tutorial, also good that you criticized the bad economy in this game.
I just unlocked the YAH-64. Thank you for spying on me Tim.
I wish they'd just have regular Air RB for helicopters. With matchmaking and everything. That way I could at least have fun in my low tier helis and leave the 10.3+ alone to suffer Vikhr spam
The lack of matchmaking for any heli-only game mode is .. frustrating beyond all belief, and I'll be really blunt - its seriously cramped my efforts to do helicopter reviews because its almost impossible to get good footage of the low/mid tier helis doing anything but cas.
Hove you ever noticed that the pivot point of WT helis is in the center of the fuselage? Helis literally hang from the rotor. The pivot point should be much higher.
Did you ever do your helicopter weapons guide? I can't find it. And I need it, really badly.
Helicopter weapons video?
Heligobtar Heligobtar 😤👌
Yoooooo Tim (might) have seen my ticket on his poll letsss goooo
I've looked over the responses every week or two. Planning to "close" the poll in a few weeks, responses have been useful so far.
@@TimsVariety Yeah I literally asked for this video on my ticket. Tim you're the GOAT of war thunder tutorial/informational videos.
Any tips for the cobra ah-1g? Its absolute trash and I cant grind it effectively/
Please add Helicopter weapon system operation and key binding for ps5.
I think you should have talked about vortex ring a bit for hover mode since that can cause a crash
I played around trying to go into VRS a bit, but I wasn't able to make it happen when I was intentionally trying to trigger it. I'm not sure if WT doesn't model it, or if its just difficult to trigger.
@@TimsVariety it does happen I seem to experience it most in the Ka-50 when flying close to a hill or mountain
@@timothygoodwin3287 No idea. I tried, and wasn't able to trigger it.
@@TimsVariety Should just be a simple case of going straight down in a neutral attitude, close to the ground, right? I guess everything like that in this game is easier to trigger when you’re NOT trying to do so.
keyboard and mouse tips?
Chopper reviews too then!
Where is video of shooting settings? Good video s
Oh well. I might try them then;)
what’s ur day job? how do u have all this knowledge abt the mechanics of helicopters?
War Thunder has too many buttons now. Radar, VTOL, adjustable suspension, helicopters in general… certainly discourages me from going anywhere beyond early 1950s jets.
I use a LOT of overlapping keybinds .....
Hey tim im curious if you play any dcs? Ive just learned to fly helis in that game and from what i remember before quitting wt it was a bit easier in that game
I dont, I dont have a good joystick/desk setup for dcs
I think helicopters are really cool but getting 500 rp a game for a 170,000 rp helicopter really isn't my jam
never got the weapons tutorial?
Why do I get a "low rotor RPM - reduce COLL" warning?
I don´t really understand the physics behind it even despite your video that covers a lot of the theory behind the flight physics
With a high collective setting, it takes more energy to rotate the blades due to wind resistance. You may need to increase throttle, or possibly its a temporary warning based on your exact flight situation at that moment, without a lot more detail its impossible to say more.
@@TimsVariety Thanks for the response. I started playing the Mi-4 and I get that warning basically every time I want to take off and put the collective setting to 100%.
@@CoIdHeat Ah, yeah that can be ignored - the Mi-4 just has a weak engine relative to its girth. You get that message sometimes on more chonky helis when taking off.
Why is it that I've never heard the word minutia in my entire life and now it's literally everywhere instantly. I can see the super overuse of the word unprecedented in everything because of the news media. But some words seem to just come out of nowhere after decades of never hearing them before they just show up everywhere in everything. Just strange
Lost motivation for helicopters. I'm not spending money on a premium helicopter or speeding up the grind.
Me too so I’ll try to use it in sim
4k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! very cool
4k what?
Just me or does anybody else think it would have been useful to learn how to take off?
Generally, you just increase the collective a bit.
Damn are you a real pilot?
Yes, but only "regular" light aircraft (Cessnas, etc) - one of my "real life" friends who is a former US Army helicopter pilot gave this video a fact-check/proof-view before I published it though to make sure I had my stuff right.
I spoke a bit about my background with aerospace education in my "5k subscribers" channel update vid
@timsvariety could you please for the luv of the game I beg you make a control setup for ps5 please all these others are garbage please I want to fly it so bad but I’m crashing getting sniped from 5 miles away please help
how do I land on controller...
(!Helikopter Helikopter!)
Far too coomplex for me. I dont need to know the details of helo flight tech. I am playing a game.
You can’t fly em can’t even put them in your hanger helis are a wast of time
Step #1 Uninstall War Thunder.
Step #2 Install DCS and never look back.
always find an idiot who overcomplicates things
Once again another video explaining nothing