REACTION | DOCTOR WHO | 5x3 | Victory of the Daleks
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Near the end, Amy asks the Doctor "So you have enemies then?". This is the first part of a famous quote by Winston Churchill: "So, you have enemies? then. Good. That means that you stood up for something, once in your life".
The Dalek poster that declares "Victory!" used in this episode also exists.
This is also the first time since Classic Who the Daleks are not in flight.
Amy's on the tall side. Her actor, Karen Gillan, is 5' 11". Big fan of her work.
"I am The Doctor! And you are The Dalek's!"
I find it hilarious when the Doctor just starts beating the shit out of the Dalek. Most of the time, the 11th Doctor has goofy, child like personality.
Here though we see his dark side and how much he hates the Dalek's. Reminds me of the 9th Doctor. Great bit of acting from Matt Smith.
The scene when the Dalek announces "I am Your Soldier!" Is a callback to The Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton's) first story "The Power of the Daleks" when The Second Doctor and his companions Ben and Polly were in a similar situation on a colony planet where the Daleks were pretending and passing themselves on as servants to the humans and said similar to this episode but instead of soldier it was "I am Your Servant!"
When The Doctor declares "The final end!" which is another callback to the Second Doctor in "The Evil of the Daleks" when it was thought at the time that it really was the final end of the Daleks.
Damn it you beat me to commenting all this lol 😂
The "new paradigm" Daleks were introduced specifically to sell more toys thanks to their bright kid-appeal colors (they had them in shops within days of this episode airing) but the fans utterly hated them. Dr Who Magazine reported receiving letters to the editor with a ratio of a thousand to one against them, and the toys sat on shelves while the traditional Daleks kept selling. The show would end up reversing course as fast as the arrival and end of New Coke in the 80s.
Terry Nation, the writer who created the Daleks, said he consciously based them on the Nazis, In this one the Daleks fight directly against the Nazis.
Ok. I really like when Eleven loses it. This Doctor is usually so child like and friendly like an imaginary friend. That when that veil falls it is something else.
Cool detail but at the end of journeys end when the metacrisis Doctor destroys the Dalek fleet, you can actually see one ship float off above the rest and escape off to the edge of the screen before it explodes
Amy should know about the Daleks too that was odd till it all ties in the end
There is a ship seen moving, but it cuts away before it explodes.
@@10thdoctor15 that’s what I said
@@obiwankenobi687 You said it escapes before it explodes. It doesn't escape, it is moving on screen, then it cuts away and we don't see it explode, but it does.
@@10thdoctor15 so if we don’t see it explode then it safe to say it doesn’t explode.
Danny Boy would have been ordered to obey the Doctor in all things, which is his commands aren't questioned. It's a callback to the war movies of the 1940s, where command was sometimes delegated to someone more qualified in specific circumstances.
The Doctor really needs to stop reminding the daleks who he is. Life could be so much simpler 😂
RIGHT?! 😂Even though it was pretending to be nice, it at least wasn't killing people ... until he came along.
I do think though had the Doctor had not intervened many more people would had been killed because Daleks don't spare lives they would be looking for a purpose with the humans when that purpose has concluded the humans would had all been killed I think.
But yeah I agree the Doctor should had played it cool and let the Daleks had think into fooling him then no one would had been killed but for I suppose they had too for drama for the story I suppose.
@@joshuajoshua2732 There was something in a DWM about them, if the Doctor didn't arrive they would keep the ruse up and keep waiting because they need him, the two soldiers would be destroyed in a massive explosion during a battle and the saucer one would flee and try again solo later.
Amy left the day before her wedding, which is 2010. Prisoner Zero was caught in 2008. Feels odd but the Dalek invasion happened in between, and the Titanic and Atmos.
There's a figurine of the Dalek serving Tea
The day-glo color Daleks were the idea of the merchandising department. They didn't go over well.
The colouring of the dalek is meant to designate their roll, white is dalek supremre, red is a soldier dalek, blue is a scientist, and i can't remember the other 2.
I love this episode! I loved The Doctor being able to physically assault a Dalek, must've been great for him as he'd have so much pent-up aggression towards them.
Even when I was a kid I hated the paradigm Daleks, just because solid bright colours on Daleks just don't do it for me. I much prefer the bronze Daleks with the occasional coloured Dalek (i.e. black/Dalek Sec)
Yeah, the solid black design is my favorite.
yeah, the defusing the scientist was touching and them letting him go home was fun.
Ian McNeice is in so many things, and has been underrated, imo.
He did play the Baron Harkonnen in the 2000 iteration of Dune for the Sci Fi Channel.
“Well, I like the white one.” Same. 😅 The red and blue looked better in Series 7, though. The thumbnail for this video summarized my reaction in 2010. Started off good, loved the Bracewell robot twist, then became a toy commercial to collect them all. Thankfully, this was not the main direction for the Daleks going forward as I like the usual design. (Brittany’s caught up, before anyone says “Spoilers!”)
Really like how you picked up on the compassion/grief dynamic between Amy and the Doctor. Never noticed that before watching these reacts.
Mark Gatiss voiced Danny
Boy.
I absolutely love this episode. I’ve always had a soft spot for it.
Studying WW2 was one of my favourite topics growing up in high school so anytime the show visits it I am immediately hooked.
I also love the Daleks here in this episode because they are far more cunning and scheming like they were in classic who. I also think the Progenitor Device was a genius idea of how to bring the species back. The paradigm are also by far my favourite Dalek design. The bright colours are actually part of Dalek culture. The Daleks have always used colour to establish rank.
I know the ending is a bit cheesy with Bracewell but I love it. I love when Doctor who isn’t afraid to just have fun. Xx
This is an unusual story in that the Daleks win: they absolutely get what they wanted and get away unscathed.
Have you been watching the little minisodes such as Meanwhile In The Tardis? They fill in some information that occurs between episodes.
Yes, I did the minisodes as bonus reactions over on Patreon.
11 is just warming up, have no fear!
This episode deliberatley took a lot of themes from the second doctor's debut story 'The power of the daleks' by having the daleks pretend to be good and only the new doctor knows there really evil. Even the dalek's saying 'I am your soldier' is meant to be similar to 'I am your servant' from power of the daleks. And the doctor saying this was 'the final end' to the daleks was a subtle reference to 'the evil of the daleks' since the second doctor says that line too
Everytime I ask someone in my family if they want a cup of tea (I am British, so this is daily) I usually ask them in a Dalek voice. It has got to the point that they don't even question it anymore.
But the colourd Daleks were a bit controversial at the time. You have obviously noticed by now that they don't stick around for very long haha. But they are a refrence to the colours of the Daleks in the non canon Doctor Who movies from the 1960's.
The new paradigm Daleks had two problems. One being their designs which didn't go over well with fans. Colors too overly bright and the material didn't even look metal like the regular Daleks did. Honestly with the projenetor being gold, I think they would've looked better if they were gold in design. The second issue was that they didn't do anything. By the time the show just got rid of them and went back to bronze Daleks, the paradigm Daleks I'm pretty sure had an on screen kill count of 3 if you count the regular Daleks, and zero if you don't. Sure, they also take down two of the planes here, but on screen it was the ship's lasers that destroyed them. They introduced this whole new group of Daleks with named ranks and designations, and that was never explored. Heck, a fan made Daleks animation series "The Dalek that Time Forgot" did a better job exploring the workings of the new paradigm Daleks than the show did.
Go go power daleks!! Amy's role evolves a lot. The 11th is feeling guilty from his actions at the end of 10th. She is grounding him.
When I saw this on first transmission there were many similarities I noticed to Patrick Troughton’s first Doctor story, The Power of the Daleks, where the Daleks lie and worm their way in to eventually overtake their ‘masters.’ Gatiss even changed the wording from Troughton’s Dalek when he said, “I am your servant,” to “I am your soldier,” so 0 out of 10 for originality there.
The new coloured/different sized Daleks looked ridiculous, and to this day I still can’t believe that Moffat thought changing them was a good idea. For me, it was all very below average, and not a great Dalek story to give Smith his first encounter with them.
Amy not knowing the Daleks is worrying
Amy not recognising the Daleks could be the same as Donna not recalling the Sycorax or Cybermen invasions - she just missed it.
Go go, Dalek rangers.
One of the only Doctor Who episodes with biscuits.
Introducing the iDalek.
Yeah, good premise but not too great as a whole IMO though partly redeemed by moments/nods.
- the call signs "Broadsword" and "Danny Boy" are nods to the cracking WWII movie "Where Eagles Dare" (starring Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood among others)
- the voice of "Danny Boy" is Mark Gatiss, who wrote the episode
- Dr Bracewell is from Paisley (Steven Moffat's hometown), which does indeed have a very fine abbey
- "Positronic brains" like his have a long history in 'Doctor Who' and science fiction in general (back to slightly before the episode's set in fact). Data from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" had one too.
And as any sane person that's had the pleasure will attest, Jammie Dodgers aren't just _a_ biscuit, they are, if not the King, at least in the immediate Royal Family, of biscuits :).
The first half with the Time War Daleks is great, but deactivating a Dalek bomb with memories is just wrong.
I LOOOOOVE when 11 gets angry!!!
I love when any of version of the Doctor gets angry. lol
@@BritanyBinges 😂😂😂
You eventually got the joke. "I am your Ser-Soldier"
She's really tall, Karen Gillian is "made of legs".
I enjoy this episode. not going to be on many peoples fave episode lists but its a solid fun episode three lol
The "OI! Churchill!" line is a joke line that was used in a car insurance series of ads with an animated Bulldog called that.
This episode caused a bit of backlash with the new Dalek designs as they were wildly unpopular (on the whole). I think Moffat was setting up these whole new Daleks with new names and roles to drive future stories but... well, I think their unpopularity may have prevented that, following this series/season.
yep, the planes in space was one step too far.
I forgot about the teletubbie Daleks 😅
Yeah, the new design didn't exactly set the fans on fire. Mistakes happen.
I liked the black and white Daleks. But I feel like the red, blue, orange and yellow Daleks look more like toys . Lol
I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
@@kay-jay1581 It always seemed to me like the BBC probably requested it for their toy lines or something.
These Daleks never really caught on...
I can't say I'm devastated by that fact. lol
Can't wait for next episode lol
I assume you watched the Power of the Daleks animation? Great story.
I did. If I remember correctly, it's the only fully animated story I watched. I'm not big into animated things (other than Disney/Pixar) but I told the Patrons I would make the exception for that one story. lol
@@BritanyBinges It's either that or reconstructed tele-snaps for the lost episodes.
Multiple colors is the way it worked on the original series. THe bronze daleks are also consdiered the "time war" daleks. But the thing with TNDP design is that is... eh. Plain ugly. Even for a murdering alien tank.
Warching this and realising that it's bot quite as bad as I remember. But glad you picked up on some of the things like the whole Danny boy in space thing et al. Those are the bits that really turned me off the Moffatt era.
Pity, I quite like the New Paradigm. I hope Big Finish give them an animation.
Big Finish actually brought the Paradigm Daleks back for the finale of the 11th Doctor chronicles. They even gave them a small redesign on the covers. It was pretty damn epic.
THANKS for this!!!!
WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME TEA?
I agree with you, it’s a silly episode that doesn’t really work.
Silly how?
I don't think the New Paradigm Daleks are bad, but I do wish they were handled better.
Oh, so you're fully caught-up on the Patreon if that's the latest episode you've reached. There's nothing anyone can spoil you on then about NuWho ☺
Well, nothing other than information that hasn't been included in the official trailers for the upcoming seasons like cast additions, leaks, etc.
@@BritanyBinges I stay away from that stuff as much as I can. The BBC has a habit of spoiling the entire season storyline in their trailers.
Irregardless of this episode and the new design’s problems, I wish they hadn’t chickened out on the Paradigm Daleks. Now they just feel like an awkward and abrupt footnote in Who history.
Still, leave it to Big Finish to pick up the pieces from the tv series. The Paradigm got a phenomenal showcase in ‘Victory of the Doctor.’
If you can ignore the Paradigm Dalek part of it, it's actually not a bad episode.
Yeah, I think I enjoyed it a little more than others generally do. I didn't hate it (which I can't say for all other Dalek stories lol), but I didn't love it. It's a pretty middle of the road episode for me with some nice parts and some iffy parts.
Yeah, the bright coloured daleks are weird, it undercuts their menacing presence to have them cosplaying power rangers
it was a tribute to peter cushions none cannon to show movie maybe they should be all white like imperial Daleks
Completely agree!!
Power ranger daleks
the Daleks are under order not to kill the doctor or it miss up the time line as far i know? is why the dalek miss all the time.
What copyright issues when so many are not doing this?
I've already made videos and community posts about the copyright issues. I've also explained them in previous comments. If you really care to know, go find the community posts about my Planet of the Dead reaction that never got past the copyright block after like 12 rounds of edits.
if you think other reactors aren't experiencing copyright issues, you're not paying close enough attention. Every single reactor experiences a lot of copyright issues.
Yeah this episode isn't the one of the best and is agreed among fans, it's got moments but that's about it. Apparently this episode's script didn't get much revision while in production, they rushed it through because they spent more time working on the 2-part story with the Weeping Angels, which compared to this episode, is a much better story.
Probably the weakest episode of S5, but I don't hate it.
I think most of the things you weren't keen on were the same things I wasn't exactly sold on.
I think exploring how corrupted from the original concept of the Daleks they had become over the course of NuWho was an interesting thing to explore, I'm just not sure about the execution here.
I don't completely hate the new paradigm either - I was fine with making them more physically imposing, and think if they'd just made them metallic then they'd have probably been recieved better. Bit of a missed opportunity to not show the roles each one had in action, nor the swappable weapons they'd all been designed with.
Ah well, a fantastic 2-parter up next. Looking forward to that.
Yeah, I didn't hate it. It just wasn't great either. It's a completely middle of the road episode for me.
Go Go Power -Rangers- /Daleks/
This is a strange one. I think the premise was very interesting but some of the scenes, the planes, the colourful Daleks, I really did not like. I feel the first half of the episode is good.
It's an ok episode. For the time period sure to go to the past. To me the oh he is a bomb but oh the humanity side. I always find the show humanity nonsense emotional moments cheap, to just be cheesy and stupid.
Amy had her moments. I can't remember why like Donna she just doesn't see/remnember things. I don't remember it being on the same scale as the beetle Donna had to deal with.
Trying to remember the many things she does as I remember bits and pieces of S5+. Key moments not a lot. A few episodes balance her, the Doctor and Rory in their way like Rose, Doctor and Mickey.
Dalek's serving tea/being not soldiers immediately is definitely something but they didn't last long of course.
To get through to people sure they need some convincing that makes sense but any other way to get them convinced instead though but for a bomb in a person like come on its weak writing.
Even more than those scenes can offer usually as they have a place hut here it's just an excuse you can't show how human you are to reverse a timer of a bomb and fight back it's just weak.
To take their mind off it while the Doctor solves the technical issue sure that makes sense but the main way to solve it that's just trying to be different but its not exciting.
The Dalek designs are fair. The Jammy Dodger bit is funny why wouldn't you use a biscuit that looks like a red button to fool them. XD
It's a Dalek episode that exists.
I am not a Dalek/Cyberman fan but even I think this episode is weird compared to the others or those coming up.
One of my least favourite dalek episodes and probably my least favourite in s5. Although i do like the mystery of amy forgetting them with the eerie crack music
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Up to this point, I'd say this is the worst Dalek story of New Who.
I think this is possibly the weakest episode this series, which is a shame what with it being a dalek episode, but, as I'm sure you've already found out, things get much better from the next episode.
This episode had a lot of sound and fury that could have led somewhere but fizzled out. I am unsure if the disconnect was between the writer and director or the show-runner was unclear in what he was searching for in this episode, the Actors slayed the material given.
It is a fine episode, I am convinced the infinity saga with marvel played a role in the color scheme of the Daleks.... it was my own personal head cannon at the time..... hahaha
To me it was just your typical Mark Gatiss episode. I like The Unquiet Dead but pretty much everything else he did on DW always missed the mark in my opinion.
not one of my favorite episodes but I have warmed up to it over the years.