One massive misconception that I had when watching you and other top cities skylines players is that you guys constantly had an incredible amount of fps. I was so discouraged from playing because my game never ran as smoothly as yours even though my computer specs are on the higher end. I was shook when I learned that wasn't the case at all, and all you guys do is speed up the video in post processing to make the fps seem higher. Now I feel encouraged to start my own series which is already in the works! :D
@@turtlesquirtle7393 I remember fluxtrance mentioned it once back when he was making videos but I didn’t really get it at the time. I then watched Strictoasters video about his workflow for recording his videos and he revealed the trick there. I was I blown away, he was actually only getting 10 fps normally in Nydal.
Makes sense from reading ur comment. Appears hardware along what change much. My city made me start wanting a new PC, but after reading comments... I don't think it sill help... My laptop is like 8 years old....was mid end in its day.... I still pull 30-40 fps on 2x speed with 120l+ pop., slowing now.... I'm seeing specs ALOT better than mine having same issue. Kinda pleased to know that I don't need to buy a new comp, but also a little frustrated that it appears I've hit the "playable' limit of my city, and even a new PC won't help. :( do love this game, but wish it was optimised to take advance of current hardware..... it could easily be pushed 10 past where its at. ... ,:( not even looked if its coming but let's hope skylines 2 takes all this into account
Very glad you didn't can the video! Some of this was new to me, other stuff wasn't - either way, great to have these tips in a condensed form like this! Also the splash screens of all your cities at the start of the video with just a black background for Sichuan Pronvince almost made me a little sad lol
Glad you did it. I was already having trouble trying to figure out how to get my performance up, and this simply hammered the last nail in the coffin. Thank you so much!
@@nanjing78654 He only did like 5 residential blocks tho, the rest of the series was mostly road layout and infrastructure. That's probably not the reason.
@@lars8614 same but I only have 3.3K assets only and use graphic mods. I use 100mods. Lmao i only have gtx 1660 super and an Old i7 processor literally so old. Its an i7 4790💀with 32gb of Ram although im still rocking with 15fps despite using 3.3k assets and with 100mods enabled including graphical mods.
I think your trick with lowering the LOD distance for trees and then using the Tree LOD Fix mod to increase the LOD resolution is a huge game-changer. Thanks!
Came here as 3x speed stopped having an effect...but after watching....I'm actually quite proud of how well my 8yr old (bargin price) laptop is holding up. I've got 125k+ population. Cpl mods (less than 20) and still can run at 30-40 fps on 2x speed, 3x just acts same ad 2x now, but from seeing this vid at 70kish pop running that slow on x1...I actuality felt a little better . Cheers for tips, going to try implementing the new things learnt from ya n fingers crossed I can push this ickle laptop a little further. Thanks for vid. P.s I'm accepting donations to help upgrade! Wonder what pop I could achieve with a decent modern PC!
It is maybe a basic suggestion the one about using "collections" to get an order on the overall mods/subscriptions but I'll try it in my next project. It's actually a nightmare to go through these endless lists. Thank you for sharing these tips!
“Let me know if it was, don’t let me know if it wasn’t.” Lol Good video tho, I’ve been using the tree cluster technique and they look pretty realistic and definitely save on some FPS...it’s a win-win for me!
Yes! There are mods to remove street props, or shiny shops doodads, those gain fps, and also help with clarity of the streets to setup lanes and arrows. another mod removes decoration sprites in the fields like grass and rocks, the game looks better without. Also if you have a map you want to play, but it's too heavy in assets required and has too much trees, open it in editor, remove all that applies, re-connect the bridges, use the trees you want, save it and play it, the gain is HUGE.
"Loading screen mod" is an absolute must! It saves quite a lot of memory just by installing and activating it. Also, it comes with valuable reports on assets: which ones are missing, which ones are not used in your current city, which ones are huge, ...
I find that making sure you have use the laws of Lane Mathematics works well if you have loads of traffic (good to watch some of Biffa’s videos for that). It helps the game AI to choose where and how to lane switch a bit easier, which causes sim speed to tank, and avoids massive tail backs. Works well in conjunction with TMPE
Every CS youtuber who making vid about how to improve fps should put "PARADOX need to release CS2 with better engine" at the end of their vid, since it is the best way to improve game fps/performance.
One of the things I do, I build a lot of Japanese themed cities. So when it comes to trees I also use the same Tree Cluster mod Low LOD for filling in forested areas, and when doing things like Temples or parks I'll use some of the nicer Cherry Blossum aka Sakura Trees sparingly, and then use the less intensive Low Poly Low LOD trees that only really pop if you get closer to them, it increased my performance by a ton doing that. Also I'm not big on adding a ton of props like AC Units or fancy Neon signs etc and stuff to the tops of buildings or in entertainment areas, UNLESS it's a building that I really like and will spend a lot of time around for viewing purposes.
knew alot of this, but the tree mod and using the LOD mod to LOWER the specs are both things I picked up. Awesome stuff man, thanks for the tips. Love your videos. Be well.
Awesome! It was really needed, for example I never thought of using the ULOD to improve the performance, and mesh info mod was just what I was looking for, I might change the vanilla trees with others. Pres's video was nice, but some of the mods he said remove are essential mods.
There always will be low FPS, unless they'll port it into a new upcoming Unreal 5 engine (with unlimited geometry), and also get rid of per citizen calculations - to make em act like a water flow or something instead (in code terms).
@@VM-ey8ih Randomly? What do you mean by that? Citizens go Home, work, visit shops, other citizen’s houses, park, etc. At least try to make it look like they have a purpose. Otherwise they would be running like headless chickens. That doesn’t look good. Cars driving like headless chickens with no purpose ain’t realistic. That also doesn’t look good.
@@alohatigers1199 well there is plenty of open world games for example where they have ai like that. They could have simple ai that makes them look like they are doing something purposely like using puplic transport. Basically making the game ai less complicated but sadly also removing the gameplay too.
These trees are maybe gimmick magic Mini FPS Booster Loading Screen Mod Less Steam and these are useful Speed Slider [v2] Ultimate Level of Detail Mesh info Forest brush
I appreciate this video! Honestly, I think C:S 2 needs to focus on the modding scene and allow for better optimizations and stability. I'm running 32GB of ram and I'm maxing it out. Getting around 10fps when zoomed in. 😂
There is no better optimization. This is how game design works. You want 1440p graphics OR 120 FPS performance? You can’t have both. You want to run 100+ mods & 1,000+ assets OR 120 FPS performance? You can’t have both. There’s always a catch 22. Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible. Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS. Edit: 100+ mods & 1,000+ assets, and you’re using 32GB, that’s impossible. And you’re expecting to make it possible? What logic is this?
@@alohatigers1199 They could certainly improve it, I run about 5200 assets and 25 or so mods. 1080p ultra/high. I'm not expecting 144Hz performance. I do however think that if Paradox wanted to, they could focuses some resources on mod support and improve the experience.
@@alohatigers1199 No one is talking about 120 FPS, 30 would be great. And it's possible but not with the current engine that is older that 5 years already. Better hardware doesn't give you better CS performance anymore. Optimisation will be possible only in CS2 with a new engine, that's what everyone is waiting for.
2500 assets, 16Gb , smooth fps. More tips: - Have custom 'Rico Revisited' and 'AVO' settings for all buildings (-homes) and cars (+cargo limit) to reduce the number of agents in the simulation. Copy the text if you're wary. Remove parenthesis: *gofile(.)io/d/oXRtGV* - Replace most smaller mods with fewer updated mods. Like 'prop remover', 'No radioactive', 'Pollution, crime etc remover', 'roadsign remover', 'No seaguls' with 'Hide it' and 'Rico revisited' (to remove pollution) instead. 'Random Tree Rotation' with 'Tree Movement Control'. Less Mb, less active code (generally speaking. Some mods like TMPE or PO are really power hungry). - Replace Trees and buildings with packs sharing texture or mesh. Only use light trees for outside areas, like 'Oak tree lowpoly' or 'Small trees cluster'. - Create collections and unsubscribe to unused assets and mods (Search 'The Mighty 16Gb' to find my collections in the Workshop and see how to organise yours).
Didn't realize pdelmo had those tree clusters, I'll definitely check it out. Good idea to tweak some of the less important LODs down, I'll see how that looks too. Incidentally I have 3700+ assets and recently had to upgrade to 64 GB RAM as usage occasionally spikes above 32 GB. Thx for the vid
Really dumb question, but how to I remove all of the broken assets? I have like 300 that are broken. But don’t know how to just get rid of them in one shot
@@chiefkeefgaming2005 The main parts are: Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 Super 16gb DDR4 3600 I wasn't saying that I was having trouble running CS on this one though. I was just saying I had trouble running it on my old PC. Also, I notice how I wasn't very clear, but when I said I have a problem with too many assets, I just meant that I don't unsubscribe from any and I've ended up with tons of assets I don't even need.
You know, one of the things that happened to me was that I was using the tree brush with the prop and tree anarchy on, and when I thought i just placed couple of trees, it turned out there were A LOT of overlapped trees. Now I'm very careful of turning off the Prop and tree anarchy before placing trees... I'm also starting to get used to copy/pasting trees with move it instead of placing them traditionally... hope it helps somehow..
The speed of the RAM can also help increase FPS and drastically improve loading times. I compared my old 2666MHz 32GB RAM with my new 3600MHz 32GB RAM. Loading times (using Loading Screen Mod) went from 13/16 minutes with the old RAM setup to just 4 minutes with the new RAM. I also managed to get a nice 4-5 FPS improvement and that's using 9 000 assets.
@@LetsTakeWalk you don't necessarily need an SSD. You'll do by just fine with an HDD. Of course an SSD does offer some nice gains but that's if you're using an NVMe. The difference thou isn't that much to justify getting an SSD.
@@plaxci You say that because it’s cheaper. That’s not a good reason to switch BACK to HDD. SSD prices are dropping BTW. The HDD uses more power to just boot up to remember the files and programs.
@@alohatigers1199 it wouldn't make sense in the first place to switch back to an HDD. I think you missed my point; Cities Skylines uses a lot of virtual memory hence why two dollars says it's a RAM intensive game. An SSD won't make much of a difference to justify buying it for better loading times. I have an SSD (both NVMe and SATA 3) along with a hard drive and I've spent countless hours testing to see what works best. An interesting discovery that I've made is that an HDD that isn't running windows runs much much quicker than one with windows - so say if you have a spare HDD that has nothing on it and you install the game there, it'll actually load a lot much quicker than if it had windows. So if you're already running an SSD then that's fine.
Do trees that do not appear drain CPU or RAM usage? I'd been using Move It to place a selection of trees in gaps, until I realized it was actually placing the whole selection, and the trees that *would* appear underneath buildings and roads are actually there and selectable(but they just don't appear). Does the tree brush work similarly? I haven't used one before.
Lay down the loud distance and uses the asset with lowest meshes was the best tips for me, but I have to say the change the IA simulation in the tmpe menu doesn't change anything to me, even with my city with 90k citizens.
So. Looks like I'm adding a river :D and I think the reason why Miami got so bad is like you said, density. And maybe 81 tiles. I had a city with around 110k population and it wasn't bad like this, but it had no mods.
cool video wish i knew about this one earlier. i finally started playing C:S with mods earlier this year (because i had to get the achievements before i allowed my self to play modded) then spent roughly 100+ hours on a beautifull city and the game just refuses to load it nowadays so i just gave up on playing C:S for now.
I'm currently at 14bg of ram and I have over 1k assets. Takes about a half hour to load up and another 10 minuets of messing with the game speed and moving around to get it to be smooth. I know I tempt fate every time I download a new asset or mod but they all look so good in the workshop!!
I'm running 32GB ram and 5200 assets, takes me around 7-10 mins to load in. Do you have an ssd? And are you using those optimizations he talked about? That will decrease your loading time
I think the biggest problem of this game is about badly optimized RAM usage. I bought last year 32 gigs just for running this game and now I am almost at the limit once again with 1300 workshop addons (idk why Loading Screen Mod says they're about 4200 tho). I mean come on...
Just watch some great tips for me to try one thing I do is use a skip list for vanilla stuff that is way bloated and replace with a workshop assett that is more optimised.
What I do not like is that the game doesn't seem to take all of the PC resources available. When i'm having FPS issues, I always open the Windows task manager, and I'm surprised to find that everything is being used around 40-60%... even RAM (I have 64GB)! I would like a way to assign more resources to the game, like force it to use all resources available all the time. Maybe there's a way to do that in windows? I don't know....
That's not way to do this in windows or in the game, only a few mods will give you 5% or 10% maximum performance increase. The game engine is super limited and this will only be different in the future cities skylines game
my game literally averages 20-30 fps on an EMPTY map with an RTX 4070ti with 32gb ram and 8 core cpu. And the funny part is the game doesn't even use anything above 15% of any, it even uses only 3gb of ram. This is the same performance I got with my old 4gb rx 570, 8gb ram and 4 core cpu.
What I’ve been doing lately is using Dynamic resolution and downsapling to 75% (although I’m stuck with 4K monitor and GPU which does not handle it well enough)
Can you please answer my questions here? 1. I Dont have any mods, assets, etc i dont even downloaded it! 2. i have clean my laptop almost every minute to see that there is no malwares or viruses on my pc. 3. And for yall information, this citie sksylines is the ONLY GAME I INSTALLED ON MY LAPTOP. 4. And for yall inforamtion too, the Laptop's GB is 930 GB while the USED GB is only 143 GB which means i have 786 FREE GB. 5. this game is the Only App that has the largest GB. all apps here mostly dfrom the laptop itself is only at 200 MB BELOW. so why it's still SLOW? in my own, i just decrease my resolution and color correction but still it is Too laggy. EDIT: when i even play this game, i CLOSE ALL RUNNING APPS IN THE BACKGROUND. i EVEN open Task Manager and END TASK the applications that run even if i closed it.
now you have finished miami i have an idea for a new series, try to build an european city, not like skibitth (french city) but a mediterranean city (portugal, spain, italy, greek, or maybe tunisia, egypt or israel. It could be very cool and beautiful to watch
I love the mod list excel. Waiting to upgrade my ram and hardrive. The recent windows update made one of ram stick obsolete for some reason. I wish ppl would do more Must have top 10 mod list. I can wait to add the new mod for road editing.
The real question is. Why won’t the game run all cores of the CPU? I got 10 core 20 thread CPU with 32 GB OF 3400 MHz ram, an nvme ssd, and an RTX 3090 and the game won’t run more then like 4 cores at 50%-75% and can get past 70 FPS when zoomed in on a busy section. Plus the GPU is barely being used at all
you said that Miami was slow in part bc of population but you only have 70k people. my cities (when I like them and put in some time) are usually between 100k and 300k and they aren’t big (in space)
i have an rtx 3080 and an i9 9900k and my game is capped at 40fps sad :( and when i start building a medium sized city it dips to 30. Is there anyway to uncap the fps?
nice tipps and tricks but paradox really needs to make cities skylines 2 on a better engine. even a beast pc cant handle it. i mean my pc can handle ms flight sim a lot better than cs with assets :/
Either you want 1440p graphics or 120 FPS performance. Either you want 100+ mods & 10,000+ assets or 120 FPS performance. You can’t have both. There’s always a catch 22. Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible. Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS.
the awful performance of this ancient game frustrates me to no end and I've just given up, for the time being I'm waiting for a suitable replacement. If that day never comes, I'll just have to abandon the genre or make a replacement myself
Either you want 1440p graphics or 120 FPS performance. Either you want 100+ mods & 10,000 assets or 120 FPS performance. You can’t have both. You can’t have ALL OF THEM. *There’s always a catch 22.* Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible. Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS. There is no better optimization.
One of my biggest problems with CS is that I like to build large, dense, cities.. which tends to kill my FPS. Though some of the suggestions you made have helped a bit. What gets me is that I only have 591 mods, yet in some cases, my FPS comes to a crawl which is frustrating. But then I see other people with huge cities, much more dense than I have, but with no FPS problems and it boggles my mind. I don't know if maybe I'm just very bad at picking out assets or if its time for me to do a complete reset on my system (though I am wondering if its possible to force the game to use more ram, seems like mine doesn't like using anything above 4)
You would think, but i've seen users do benchmarks on cities skylines and majority of the time this game doesn't seem to utilize the power of higher end GPUs like you'd think. Unless the new 3000 series Nvidia cards have corrected this and the game will unlock the full potential of the 3000 series GPUs and the new AMD 6000 series.
nothing about players trying to simulate a high population city. disappointing. could have at least thrown in a remark that "If you're simulating a city of over 200k population, there isn't anything to reduce that performance hit". everything is about non-gameplay elements, like props and LOD settings.
One massive misconception that I had when watching you and other top cities skylines players is that you guys constantly had an incredible amount of fps. I was so discouraged from playing because my game never ran as smoothly as yours even though my computer specs are on the higher end. I was shook when I learned that wasn't the case at all, and all you guys do is speed up the video in post processing to make the fps seem higher. Now I feel encouraged to start my own series which is already in the works! :D
Didn't even know that was possible
@@turtlesquirtle7393 I remember fluxtrance mentioned it once back when he was making videos but I didn’t really get it at the time. I then watched Strictoasters video about his workflow for recording his videos and he revealed the trick there. I was I blown away, he was actually only getting 10 fps normally in Nydal.
It has been said that the base game itself is in need of optimization
@@deronn.j6088 The base game IS in need of an optimization. It's game engine is Unity which is shit for games like CS.
Makes sense from reading ur comment. Appears hardware along what change much. My city made me start wanting a new PC, but after reading comments... I don't think it sill help...
My laptop is like 8 years old....was mid end in its day.... I still pull 30-40 fps on 2x speed with 120l+ pop., slowing now.... I'm seeing specs ALOT better than mine having same issue. Kinda pleased to know that I don't need to buy a new comp, but also a little frustrated that it appears I've hit the "playable' limit of my city, and even a new PC won't help. :( do love this game, but wish it was optimised to take advance of current hardware..... it could easily be pushed 10 past where its at. ... ,:( not even looked if its coming but let's hope skylines 2 takes all this into account
I've been sitting on this video for about 3 months and almost didn't release it. Hope it was helpful or entertaining, or both!
That was an awesome video- very useful and very entertaining. Saved
Very glad you didn't can the video! Some of this was new to me, other stuff wasn't - either way, great to have these tips in a condensed form like this! Also the splash screens of all your cities at the start of the video with just a black background for Sichuan Pronvince almost made me a little sad lol
Glad you did it. I was already having trouble trying to figure out how to get my performance up, and this simply hammered the last nail in the coffin. Thank you so much!
Thanks for releasing it. Learned something new!
I'm glad you did release it this really helps
Man I miss Sichuan. That series was awesome.
Sichuan is hard to design XD...I guess
What happened to it?
Too repetitive
Spammy commie blocks got him burnt out
@@nanjing78654 He only did like 5 residential blocks tho, the rest of the series was mostly road layout and infrastructure. That's probably not the reason.
Definitely useful! I use around 1000-1500 assets in many of my cities and was looking for a way to optimise! Great vid!
wow do you have a nasa pc
@@codizzlesdad3743 I have 8000 assets and 113 mods.
Still running on 10-14 FPS.
@@lars8614 i feel poor now 😂
@@lars8614 same but I only have 3.3K assets only and use graphic mods. I use 100mods.
Lmao i only have gtx 1660 super and an Old i7 processor literally so old. Its an i7 4790💀with 32gb of Ram although im still rocking with 15fps despite using 3.3k assets and with 100mods enabled including graphical mods.
@@codizzlesdad3743 that’s actually not a lot💀
Stop teasing me with the sichuan province! I already moved on😣
I think your trick with lowering the LOD distance for trees and then using the Tree LOD Fix mod to increase the LOD resolution is a huge game-changer. Thanks!
nope, this game is very CPU limited
Came here as 3x speed stopped having an effect...but after watching....I'm actually quite proud of how well my 8yr old (bargin price) laptop is holding up. I've got 125k+ population. Cpl mods (less than 20) and still can run at 30-40 fps on 2x speed, 3x just acts same ad 2x now, but from seeing this vid at 70kish pop running that slow on x1...I actuality felt a little better .
Cheers for tips, going to try implementing the new things learnt from ya n fingers crossed I can push this ickle laptop a little further.
Thanks for vid.
P.s I'm accepting donations to help upgrade! Wonder what pop I could achieve with a decent modern PC!
It is maybe a basic suggestion the one about using "collections" to get an order on the overall mods/subscriptions but I'll try it in my next project. It's actually a nightmare to go through these endless lists. Thank you for sharing these tips!
“Let me know if it was, don’t let me know if it wasn’t.” Lol
Good video tho, I’ve been using the tree cluster technique and they look pretty realistic and definitely save on some FPS...it’s a win-win for me!
Yes! There are mods to remove street props, or shiny shops doodads, those gain fps, and also help with clarity of the streets to setup lanes and arrows. another mod removes decoration sprites in the fields like grass and rocks, the game looks better without. Also if you have a map you want to play, but it's too heavy in assets required and has too much trees, open it in editor, remove all that applies, re-connect the bridges, use the trees you want, save it and play it, the gain is HUGE.
"Loading screen mod" is an absolute must! It saves quite a lot of memory just by installing and activating it. Also, it comes with valuable reports on assets: which ones are missing, which ones are not used in your current city, which ones are huge, ...
Broken now sadly🥺
Cities: Skylines: use fewer trees
OpenTTD: Build More Trees!!!
This was so helpful!!!! I'm trying to find a clever way to build a Sydney inspired city without killing my PC
I find that making sure you have use the laws of Lane Mathematics works well if you have loads of traffic (good to watch some of Biffa’s videos for that). It helps the game AI to choose where and how to lane switch a bit easier, which causes sim speed to tank, and avoids massive tail backs. Works well in conjunction with TMPE
My game is soo laggy lol, I can't wait to try these out
Every CS youtuber who making vid about how to improve fps should put "PARADOX need to release CS2 with better engine" at the end of their vid, since it is the best way to improve game fps/performance.
Seriously, I hope if Colossus is working on CS2, they are using a better engine or at least latest version of Unity.
One of the things I do, I build a lot of Japanese themed cities. So when it comes to trees I also use the same Tree Cluster mod Low LOD for filling in forested areas, and when doing things like Temples or parks I'll use some of the nicer Cherry Blossum aka Sakura Trees sparingly, and then use the less intensive Low Poly Low LOD trees that only really pop if you get closer to them, it increased my performance by a ton doing that. Also I'm not big on adding a ton of props like AC Units or fancy Neon signs etc and stuff to the tops of buildings or in entertainment areas, UNLESS it's a building that I really like and will spend a lot of time around for viewing purposes.
knew alot of this, but the tree mod and using the LOD mod to LOWER the specs are both things I picked up. Awesome stuff man, thanks for the tips. Love your videos. Be well.
Dang! I just made a video asking how to optimize this game and then TDTwenty made a video. You ask and I guess you shall receive.
One of the BEST videos of CS in my opinion. I love these kinds of info. Thanks
"let me know if it was, don't let me know if it wasn't"
-Gandhi
-Gandhi *
Awesome! It was really needed, for example I never thought of using the ULOD to improve the performance, and mesh info mod was just what I was looking for, I might change the vanilla trees with others.
Pres's video was nice, but some of the mods he said remove are essential mods.
I used low end pc and i get around 40 - 3 fps some times even killing my pc this is so helpfull thank you so much dude
There always will be low FPS, unless they'll port it into a new upcoming Unreal 5 engine (with unlimited geometry), and also get rid of per citizen calculations - to make em act like a water flow or something instead (in code terms).
yeah. they could add a "sandbox" mode for big detailed builds where there is no simulation and all the cims and cars are just moving around randomly.
@@VM-ey8ih
Randomly? What do you mean by that? Citizens go Home, work, visit shops, other citizen’s houses, park, etc. At least try to make it look like they have a purpose. Otherwise they would be running like headless chickens. That doesn’t look good.
Cars driving like headless chickens with no purpose ain’t realistic. That also doesn’t look good.
@@alohatigers1199 well there is plenty of open world games for example where they have ai like that. They could have simple ai that makes them look like they are doing something purposely like using puplic transport. Basically making the game ai less complicated but sadly also removing the gameplay too.
I feel like a lot of inexperienced players will find this useful.
These trees are maybe gimmick magic
Mini FPS Booster
Loading Screen Mod
Less Steam
and these are useful
Speed Slider [v2]
Ultimate Level of Detail
Mesh info
Forest brush
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I appreciate this video! Honestly, I think C:S 2 needs to focus on the modding scene and allow for better optimizations and stability. I'm running 32GB of ram and I'm maxing it out. Getting around 10fps when zoomed in. 😂
There is no better optimization. This is how game design works.
You want 1440p graphics OR 120 FPS performance? You can’t have both.
You want to run 100+ mods & 1,000+ assets OR 120 FPS performance? You can’t have both.
There’s always a catch 22.
Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible.
Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS.
Edit: 100+ mods & 1,000+ assets, and you’re using 32GB, that’s impossible. And you’re expecting to make it possible? What logic is this?
@@alohatigers1199 They could certainly improve it, I run about 5200 assets and 25 or so mods. 1080p ultra/high. I'm not expecting 144Hz performance. I do however think that if Paradox wanted to, they could focuses some resources on mod support and improve the experience.
@@alohatigers1199 No one is talking about 120 FPS, 30 would be great. And it's possible but not with the current engine that is older that 5 years already. Better hardware doesn't give you better CS performance anymore. Optimisation will be possible only in CS2 with a new engine, that's what everyone is waiting for.
2500 assets, 16Gb , smooth fps. More tips:
- Have custom 'Rico Revisited' and 'AVO' settings for all buildings (-homes) and cars (+cargo limit) to reduce the number of agents in the simulation.
Copy the text if you're wary. Remove parenthesis: *gofile(.)io/d/oXRtGV*
- Replace most smaller mods with fewer updated mods. Like 'prop remover', 'No radioactive', 'Pollution, crime etc remover', 'roadsign remover', 'No seaguls' with 'Hide it' and 'Rico revisited' (to remove pollution) instead. 'Random Tree Rotation' with 'Tree Movement Control'. Less Mb, less active code (generally speaking. Some mods like TMPE or PO are really power hungry).
- Replace Trees and buildings with packs sharing texture or mesh. Only use light trees for outside areas, like 'Oak tree lowpoly' or 'Small trees cluster'.
- Create collections and unsubscribe to unused assets and mods (Search 'The Mighty 16Gb' to find my collections in the Workshop and see how to organise yours).
thx I will try that
Of course it’s 16GB.
With 2700ish assets it occupies 19.1GB. A lot goes to page file, but I only have a 150Mbps HDD. I'd strongly recommend an SSD besides RAM.
Great tips and advice! Thanks for this!
Never heard of speed slider! Trying it out now!
CS needs to implement parallax occlusion mapping into its game engine, it solve fps problems and the high gpu utilization
Didn't realize pdelmo had those tree clusters, I'll definitely check it out. Good idea to tweak some of the less important LODs down, I'll see how that looks too. Incidentally I have 3700+ assets and recently had to upgrade to 64 GB RAM as usage occasionally spikes above 32 GB. Thx for the vid
Very Helpful! Thank you so much.
Really dumb question, but how to I remove all of the broken assets? I have like 300 that are broken. But don’t know how to just get rid of them in one shot
Of course this is very soon after I built my new pc.
Great video lol. I definitely have a problem with to many assets.
I ran 700 mods and assets on 4gb quad core cpu. What are your specs for your new pc?
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The main parts are:
Ryzen 5 3600
GTX 1660 Super
16gb DDR4 3600
I wasn't saying that I was having trouble running CS on this one though. I was just saying I had trouble running it on my old PC.
Also, I notice how I wasn't very clear, but when I said I have a problem with too many assets, I just meant that I don't unsubscribe from any and I've ended up with tons of assets I don't even need.
Thanks! I appreciate the information regarding tree usage. I believe I have been placing too many trees in my cities.
You know, one of the things that happened to me was that I was using the tree brush with the prop and tree anarchy on, and when I thought i just placed couple of trees, it turned out there were A LOT of overlapped trees. Now I'm very careful of turning off the Prop and tree anarchy before placing trees... I'm also starting to get used to copy/pasting trees with move it instead of placing them traditionally... hope it helps somehow..
The speed of the RAM can also help increase FPS and drastically improve loading times. I compared my old 2666MHz 32GB RAM with my new 3600MHz 32GB RAM. Loading times (using Loading Screen Mod) went from 13/16 minutes with the old RAM setup to just 4 minutes with the new RAM. I also managed to get a nice 4-5 FPS improvement and that's using 9 000 assets.
Dude, do you have an SSD? Because it looks like you need an SSD.
@@LetsTakeWalk you don't necessarily need an SSD. You'll do by just fine with an HDD. Of course an SSD does offer some nice gains but that's if you're using an NVMe. The difference thou isn't that much to justify getting an SSD.
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You say that because it’s cheaper. That’s not a good reason to switch BACK to HDD.
SSD prices are dropping BTW.
The HDD uses more power to just boot up to remember the files and programs.
@@plaxci if anything, did you actually test it to see you’re right?
@@alohatigers1199 it wouldn't make sense in the first place to switch back to an HDD. I think you missed my point; Cities Skylines uses a lot of virtual memory hence why two dollars says it's a RAM intensive game. An SSD won't make much of a difference to justify buying it for better loading times. I have an SSD (both NVMe and SATA 3) along with a hard drive and I've spent countless hours testing to see what works best.
An interesting discovery that I've made is that an HDD that isn't running windows runs much much quicker than one with windows - so say if you have a spare HDD that has nothing on it and you install the game there, it'll actually load a lot much quicker than if it had windows. So if you're already running an SSD then that's fine.
True, after I download a few (2000) assets my rtx2060 works rather like an old diesel
Awesome tips, the mesh info is a great one. Please bring back Sichuan for me, bae?
Mods do decrease performance a lot though because of how the game handles them. Not custom assets, those dont matter, they only eat the ram
awesome and very educating video
Do trees that do not appear drain CPU or RAM usage?
I'd been using Move It to place a selection of trees in gaps, until I realized it was actually placing the whole selection, and the trees that *would* appear underneath buildings and roads are actually there and selectable(but they just don't appear). Does the tree brush work similarly? I haven't used one before.
This was helpful
Lay down the loud distance and uses the asset with lowest meshes was the best tips for me, but I have to say the change the IA simulation in the tmpe menu doesn't change anything to me, even with my city with 90k citizens.
So. Looks like I'm adding a river :D and I think the reason why Miami got so bad is like you said, density. And maybe 81 tiles. I had a city with around 110k population and it wasn't bad like this, but it had no mods.
cool video wish i knew about this one earlier. i finally started playing C:S with mods earlier this year (because i had to get the achievements before i allowed my self to play modded) then spent roughly 100+ hours on a beautifull city and the game just refuses to load it nowadays so i just gave up on playing C:S for now.
Much needed video
I'm currently at 14bg of ram and I have over 1k assets. Takes about a half hour to load up and another 10 minuets of messing with the game speed and moving around to get it to be smooth. I know I tempt fate every time I download a new asset or mod but they all look so good in the workshop!!
I'm running 32GB ram and 5200 assets, takes me around 7-10 mins to load in. Do you have an ssd? And are you using those optimizations he talked about? That will decrease your loading time
great info!
I think the biggest problem of this game is about badly optimized RAM usage. I bought last year 32 gigs just for running this game and now I am almost at the limit once again with 1300 workshop addons (idk why Loading Screen Mod says they're about 4200 tho). I mean come on...
paradox interactive should optimize their game to use multi-core cpu efficiently
Just watch some great tips for me to try one thing I do is use a skip list for vanilla stuff that is way bloated and replace with a workshop assett that is more optimised.
What I do not like is that the game doesn't seem to take all of the PC resources available. When i'm having FPS issues, I always open the Windows task manager, and I'm surprised to find that everything is being used around 40-60%... even RAM (I have 64GB)! I would like a way to assign more resources to the game, like force it to use all resources available all the time. Maybe there's a way to do that in windows? I don't know....
That's not way to do this in windows or in the game, only a few mods will give you 5% or 10% maximum performance increase. The game engine is super limited and this will only be different in the future cities skylines game
im on Ryzen 5, msi RX 5700, 16 GB 3200 RAM and my still growing-sprawling suburb-80K population city is at like an average 15-20 fps.
my game literally averages 20-30 fps on an EMPTY map with an RTX 4070ti with 32gb ram and 8 core cpu.
And the funny part is the game doesn't even use anything above 15% of any, it even uses only 3gb of ram.
This is the same performance I got with my old 4gb rx 570, 8gb ram and 4 core cpu.
And if you use low-poly trees, then with a large number of them you can save FPS?
It really helpful 🙌
I wish a had a pc to play cities skylines or anything :(
nearly at 100k hype in the chat
What I’ve been doing lately is using Dynamic resolution and downsapling to 75% (although I’m stuck with 4K monitor and GPU which does not handle it well enough)
i have 4000+ assets, many mods, and all with 16gb RAM and a ryzen 7 w/ radeon graphics. tips to improve performance and/or load time?
My solution is to build a desert city. Because:
1. I wanted to make a city on a desert anyway
2. It’s basically barren with nothing so yay
Can you please answer my questions here?
1. I Dont have any mods, assets, etc i dont even downloaded it!
2. i have clean my laptop almost every minute to see that there is no malwares or viruses on my pc.
3. And for yall information, this citie sksylines is the ONLY GAME I INSTALLED ON MY LAPTOP.
4. And for yall inforamtion too, the Laptop's GB is 930 GB while the USED GB is only 143 GB which means i have 786 FREE GB.
5. this game is the Only App that has the largest GB. all apps here mostly dfrom the laptop itself is only at 200 MB BELOW.
so why it's still SLOW?
in my own, i just decrease my resolution and color correction but still it is Too laggy.
EDIT: when i even play this game, i CLOSE ALL RUNNING APPS IN THE BACKGROUND. i EVEN open Task Manager and END TASK the applications that run even if i closed it.
now you have finished miami i have an idea for a new series, try to build an european city, not like skibitth (french city) but a mediterranean city (portugal, spain, italy, greek, or maybe tunisia, egypt or israel. It could be very cool and beautiful to watch
hmmmm maqybe i should show my city /region of Segundp then,,, fits your description
@hoaxashian they arent but they are mediterranean countries
I love the mod list excel. Waiting to upgrade my ram and hardrive. The recent windows update made one of ram stick obsolete for some reason. I wish ppl would do more Must have top 10 mod list. I can wait to add the new mod for road editing.
Found it very useful. Improved my FPS in about 100% (23 fps to 48 average)
The real question is. Why won’t the game run all cores of the CPU? I got 10 core 20 thread CPU with 32 GB OF 3400 MHz ram, an nvme ssd, and an RTX 3090 and the game won’t run more then like 4 cores at 50%-75% and can get past 70 FPS when zoomed in on a busy section. Plus the GPU is barely being used at all
City skylines is badly optimised and its not a gpu based game
Have you released the Springfield (modified marble mountain) map?
another good option is mod compatibility checker it take like 5 mins 2 check all ur shit nd ur str8
you said that Miami was slow in part bc of population but you only have 70k people. my cities (when I like them and put in some time) are usually between 100k and 300k and they aren’t big (in space)
i have an rtx 3080 and an i9 9900k and my game is capped at 40fps sad :( and when i start building a medium sized city it dips to 30. Is there anyway to uncap the fps?
What’s the name of the song in the video. Please reply, I would love to know.
None of this would be important if the CO would give us new game CSL2 on proper new engine...
When he said 32gb is necessary for his 2000assets and mods
I remembered that I run 1448 mods and assets on 8gb of ram 👀
nice tipps and tricks but paradox really needs to make cities skylines 2 on a better engine. even a beast pc cant handle it. i mean my pc can handle ms flight sim a lot better than cs with assets :/
Either you want 1440p graphics or 120 FPS performance.
Either you want 100+ mods & 10,000+ assets or 120 FPS performance. You can’t have both.
There’s always a catch 22.
Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible.
Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS.
Weird LUT @7:05 , water looks like poop just like the light. Meh. Just install enough of memory at least 32 GB but better 64 GB for CS
nice!
What are those two cities you show on google earth? I want to make something like that!
good video
Don't let me know if it wasn't LMAO
anybody have a link to that "pres 5 mods to delete" video?
I can't find pres video . Anyone got one Or tell me which 5 mods please
But there is still have the limit that the game team set
So u still can’t build the city too large
the awful performance of this ancient game frustrates me to no end and I've just given up, for the time being I'm waiting for a suitable replacement. If that day never comes, I'll just have to abandon the genre or make a replacement myself
next dlc should be only about optimization....it would be better and usefull than some dlcs
Either you want 1440p graphics or 120 FPS performance.
Either you want 100+ mods & 10,000 assets or 120 FPS performance. You can’t have both. You can’t have ALL OF THEM.
*There’s always a catch 22.*
Unless companies design innovative PC hardware/software that CAN... I don’t know how though. Who CAN? OR maybe companies should create an Innovate Game Engine that CAN, I don’t know if it’s possible.
Because games will always be 4k capped at 60 FPS.
There is no better optimization.
i have exactly the same pc as you and my game go so bad i don't know why
One of my biggest problems with CS is that I like to build large, dense, cities.. which tends to kill my FPS. Though some of the suggestions you made have helped a bit.
What gets me is that I only have 591 mods, yet in some cases, my FPS comes to a crawl which is frustrating. But then I see other people with huge cities, much more dense than I have, but with no FPS problems and it boggles my mind. I don't know if maybe I'm just very bad at picking out assets or if its time for me to do a complete reset on my system (though I am wondering if its possible to force the game to use more ram, seems like mine doesn't like using anything above 4)
The do have FPS problems. Remember that you are watching a VIDEO of people playing. There is a lot of editing process.
Me on console like: 👀
Does anybody know the background songs name?
Can someone tell me the name of those two maps?
Why on my game that all become sky
Petition to revive Sichuan Province. 🥺🥺
Why do all the people wants to recreate network xD?
yea, just remove all mode etc
I think i remember that city 0:17 is that a city from intro for sun set harbor DLC you delevoped that.
just upgrade to 64 gb of ram :)
I can't watch this right away. I'm at school 😥
im at death
let me know if it was, dont let mi know if it wasnt :)))))))))))))))))))
A RTX 3090 should do the job
You would think, but i've seen users do benchmarks on cities skylines and majority of the time this game doesn't seem to utilize the power of higher end GPUs like you'd think. Unless the new 3000 series Nvidia cards have corrected this and the game will unlock the full potential of the 3000 series GPUs and the new AMD 6000 series.
nothing about players trying to simulate a high population city. disappointing. could have at least thrown in a remark that "If you're simulating a city of over 200k population, there isn't anything to reduce that performance hit".
everything is about non-gameplay elements, like props and LOD settings.
9:37 sorry 2$20, but this video wasn't useful :(
Still gave thumb up tho