When the Brexiteers preached about border controls, they mostly meant Britain specifically, and only one-way, from Europe into the U.K. They were shocked and unprepared for the idea that border controls are a two-way street and they were outraged that now Brits looking to live and work in the EU were legally (GASP!) *immigrants!* Gibraltar as an exclave is a problem for Brits who moved there for the climate, but expect free access into Spain. They also want Spanish workers to get in because the Brits didn't move there to wait tables in restaurants.
Waiting tables in Gibraltar won't pay the bills for a Spanish local. But the Brit can always swamp the rock with North Africans. But, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
@@georgeh1352 - Interesting idea, except that the U.K. economy was in decline even back then, which led to Thatcher and her brutal policies a decade later. To many Brits cannot accept either the fact that they no longer rule the Commonwealth, nor were they the dominant power in the E.U. It's a sad little country desperately looking for an empire to rule again.
A very poor analysis relying heavily upon outdated stereotypes. Re the video, a well considered presentation of the history and potential future of Gibraltar. I reckon that the the current temporary arrangement to keep the border as frictionless as possible is going to have to last a very long time as it is impossible to achieve this within a "permanent" agreement to which all sides can agree.
@ - None of which will change British hypocritical anger about needing to pass through customs *into* the EU. Brexiteers pretended, and their voters believed, that any border controls would be one-way going *into* the U.K., but still wide open going into the EU.
The people of Gibraltar voted to stay in the EU (along with Northern Ireland and Scotland) as they knew the benefits that it brought and how it "fudged" the border issue It just shows how the EU project actually did work to stifle nationalism
Then the people of Gibraltar and NI need to have a referendum to leave the UK and be ruled by either Spain or the Irish government, if that’s what they want then they can have it.
Interesting video But- as a UK citizen and National Health Service practitioner; seeing that red Brexit bus with it’s ridiculous lies written on it, makes me sick. The true aim of Brexit was all about deregulating the Financial services in the city of London. Thank goodness bankers have their bonuses back!
@@mfredholm I voted remain! I preferred economic advantage rather than restricting our economy! I could NEVER vote for a conniving ‘snake oil merchant’ like Alexander decuffle Johnson!
Agreed. I am perturbed by how the two major parties of the UK are effectively burying their heads in the sand over the economic catastrophe Brexit has brought. It is as if they want to continue to live in this fantasy that the UK will somehow soldier on through when in reality we are now a country falling downing in GDP metrics, living standards collapsing with public finances shot. Not to mention the Gibraltar, Northern Irish situation.
@@raellawrence7116 Our future prosperity lies with Europe - not America. Brexiters think that America cares about us post-Brexit, but the reality is that they don't really. They just care about themselves....like America always has done.
Gibraltar needs Spain more than Spain needs Gibraltar as there isn’t a way to convince Brits to move there to replace these workers and there’s not enough housing for them anyway
I'm guessing you don't live there? If you did you'd know it's one of the poorest regions with the highest unemployment in Spain which is overrun with drug gangs. Gibraltar is a huge employer at above average Spanish wage.
Good po8nt, make the eu take the migrants back and enforce a better border. Thank god we left those small minded twits over there. I voted remain, I was wrong, everyone who vote remain regrets it.
@@AtakenSmith What you are not considering is that, in fact, the brexit vote was undertaken by only a small percentage of uk citizens and even so those who voted to leave EU only won their vote by a narrow margin!! On the whole, most British people were happy to, be, part of EU and were used to, being, part of EU!! No!! Even though, "officially" having to leave because of that vote doesn't mean, and, is no excuse, for EU to take a harsh attitude towards British people, and, to punish them by not letting them roam Europe freely without the need of a visa because of what politicians had chosen to do!! I was born, in, England, but, I was brought up in Germany but, now, I am, not, permitted to visit that country, which is my home, for over "180!"! days, yearly and it's not my fault!! In, Spain, tens of thousands of British people are, now, having their houses, in, Spain, either sold, or, devalued, because of that visa punishment, by, EU!! On top of all that, before Britain, and, Spain, joined there was absolutely no visa requirement, anyhow! That visa requirement for British people has only happened as a means of punishing British people because of what their politicians did, and, it is wrong, and, is totally, unfair!!
@@Boris-k7g If you favour a globalist world you will be anti-brexit... If you favour a world of nations you will be pro-brexit (and if you don't care or understand you probably didn't vote) There is no way to determine who are the sensible folk and who are the fools. The fact that work in and travel to the EU is more difficult following brexit is of very little, if any, importance to someone who favours nations over supranational groups. Equally, the fact that ever-closer ties between regions diminishes differences between those regions (as mentioned in the video about closer alignment with Spain) to the point that their distinctive cultures and traditions are destroyed is hardly a problem for someone who'd rather do away with nations.
@@Boris-k7g The 180-day rule had been in place long before Brexit, a rule the UK helped to make while still in the EU for third countries. You the UK and you alone chose to become a third country.
Brexit was voted for because of unbridled mass immigration. That got the UK out of the EU but the idiot politicians totally missed the point, so the UK lost EU membership but ended up keeping the utterly ridiculous replacement level mass immigration. I think every PM since and including Blair has been just a Scrot-head, with not an ounce of compassion between them for the citizens of the UK they are supposed to represent.
How about Gibraltar introducing UK levels of income tax, VAT, Duty etc. I'm sure since they are such patriotic Brits they will insist that they pay the exact same taxes as someone in Glasgow or London.
@@rpitaluga4343 but you want to be British, right? The people of the UK pay Vat and duty. Why should the EU tolerate a duty free shop having free and easy access to the EU? Please explain that.
@@greattobeadub Gibraltar is not part of the UK. It is a British Overseas Territory (BOT) and they do not use Brirish currency, so check out the coins and notes from Gibraltar, etc.
The British, or rather the English, have not yet realised two things. The first is that they are no longer an Empire, but they should not despair, because this is a process that takes a long time. In Spain, after several centuries, there are still people who have not realised that the Spanish Empire no longer exists. The second thing is that they must understand that when you leave a club, you cannot continue enjoying the privileges you had when you were a member. Gibraltar only has two options: either an external border at the port and at the airport, with Gibraltarian and Spanish police, or an external border on land. In this case, crossing that land border would be like crossing the border of a third country into an EU member country. Time is running out. Spain will be forced by European regulations to establish a hard border on land if an agreement is not reached on the control of access to Gibraltar by air or sea. Neither the EU nor Spain can allow access to the Schengen area to be in the hands of a non-EU country. On the other hand, I believe that most Spaniards know that the destiny of Gibraltar depends on the will of the Gibraltarians and as long as they want to remain British, Gibraltar will be British, but the Gibraltarians must also know that one cannot want to have the advantages of being British and of being Spanish.
'one cannot want to have the advantages of being British and of being Spanish'... that's exactly the point: some Gibraltarians (too many) are a perfect example of cakeism, they want to be British in some aspects, Spanish in others, European in others, and finally apatrids when it comes to taxing, gambling, money laundering, smuggling...
Hmmm no Gibralatarian was asked just after August 4th 1704... The willings are overvalued sometimes. You forget another option: GBR-ESP co-sovereignity and bi-nationality.
Excellent point of view, Sir. There are still some people in Spain dreaming about entering Gibraltar with the flag and tanks, and everything, but most of us don't give a damn about Gibraltar. Sadly, and specially after Brexit, I think there are a good bunch of British (English, mainly) that are thinking about the British Empire, and Britannia Ruling Over The Waves and all the stuff. Please, assume it: the Empire is gone, and Gibraltar will be gone, mainly because Brexit, and for that reason, they vote 96% remain. They know that an isolated Gibraltar is unsustainable nowadays, they even lack of a Health Service or telephone lines without Spain. Even the last three Principal Ministers lived in Spain. It would be a more realistic view to prepare any kind of agreement with Spain, and be sure that if UK ask again re-enter into the UE it will be very hard: Gibraltar, sterling pound, etc. and no more British Check.
The headline is not quite right - it should read Brexit’s problem is getting worse. All a nasty surprise to the decaying pensioners nostalgic for the days the map was colored pink and jonny foreigner knew his place.
Gibraltar is on the UN list of territories waiting to be decolonized. If UK ever thinks about joining EU again Spain will for sure us Gibraltar as a bargaining chip to give consent to allow UK to start an accession process into EU. It would not be the first time a border issue stops the accession process. That happened to Croatia when it was in the process of joining.
You know, that is a very good point. I initially thought that Brexit would benefit Britain, but reality has demonstrated otherwise. Britain is now too small to function well on it's own and the Americans have not offered them any favorable trade deals. Primarily because, unfortunately, Brits don't manufacture much anymore. Britain needs to get back in the EU. But the next go around will be a hard bargain, and its going to be the French, not the Spanish with the widest grins on their smug faces.
@stefanz9929 Brits deserve what they voted for. They are now on their way to becoming the first country to be deindustrialized. That is from First World to Third World country. Thanks Brexiteers!
I was in Gibraltar last week, they will never want to join Spain, though the current situation can't continue! The leave campaign have a lot to answer for!
But, the peninsular is at a strategically important location. This strategic value exists with or without the people of Gibraltar. That said, the UK 'government' has a recently demonstrated capacity for bone-headed incompetence regarding such issues (speaking in the most generous and positive tone I can manage of course)
@@ianc8054 Not really, it was long time ago, nowadays you can control the strait from other places. Actually, the Royal Navy uses mainly the near Rota Base, in Cadiz, because it's a NATO base, better than Gibraltar, that has a really tiny harbour. Some time ago, it's said that USA support British position on Gibraltar because they don't want both sides of the strait being in Spanish hands, ansd it's probably true.
@@ArunLal-d6s it means that leaving the EU has very little to do with it. Spain hopes that it can use the EU to get what it wants, but as we all know the only country the EU listens to is Germany.
@@ArunLal-d6s it basically means this has nothing to do with the EU and is about as relevant a discussion as the dissagreement over the Falkland Islands Spain made the decision to give it to us, it is the spanish who will have to deal with it Gibraltar and its residents wish to remain British ....that is the end of the discussion
If I was the representative of Spain for this negotiations I would just seat and wait. Spain has literally nothing to lose by just letting a hard border be set up around Gibraltar.
Yep try to starve a population into submission. That sounds very humane and democratic (a founding principle of the EU, not of sPain) We’ll ignore that it failed last time spain tried it when we were much less developed, self sufficient and technologically undeveloped.
@@-Malvez- ok, honey, you keep doing your tantrum. But do not forget that the government of Spain should care about the Spanish population. Are Gibraltarians Spanish? No? So why should the government of Spain care? They should not. Besides, it is not as if there is a siege on Gibraltar. You can sail to Morocco and do your groceries there.
@ that was exactly my point omegalul that your government doesn’t care about the people of the south.And thank you for acknowledging that we’re not Spanish ;)
The importance of Gibraltar to the Spanish economy has been grossly exaggerated for years by English speakers. Spain now has a $2.5 trillion dollar economy and to it, Gibraltar is a drop in the ocean. That compares with Gibraltar's economy of less than $2 billion per annum. A loss of Gibraltar from Spain's view wouldn't barely be felt.
Tell that to the Campo area, thousands rely on Gibraltar for work because their own government has failed them. The importance of Gibraltar isn't massive to Spain's economy, but it's massive to the economy of the campo
@@jonathanrapley147 Yes, I do agree that the government has failed the Campo area. This is a great opportunity to force the government to act and and invest in the area so its not dependent on the other side of the border. I'm hoping for a hard border.
@@jonathanrapley147 You are incorrect there. The amount of employment Gibraltar gives a few people is minuscule . Besides, those are not well paying jobs, and its easy for the locals to take other Jobs. Gibraltar is not as wealthy as many English speakers makes it out to be. Again, Gibraltar has an annual GDP economy smaller than most large Spanish multi national corporations. You are making hay over peanuts, economically speaking.
@stefanz6502 estás halucinando? It's super fake, comparing Gibraltars economic output to that of Spain. That first. Second is that the Campo relies on jobs created in Gibraltar. That they are not necessarily high-paying jobs? Sure, but then where in Spain are they creating high-paying jobs. The truth is that Spaniards of surrounding area rely on these jobs, for better or worse. Spanish/andaluz authorities have not been able to create an industry whatsoever and even less create a job market that pays even a decent salary. Mind-blowing.
Gibraltar can’t replace these workers but the area around it can reabsorb these people as the Spanish side is a great port area with Gibraltar acting as a breakwater the only reason Spain hasn’t done more they didn’t need to as the Brits did the investments for them
Interesting for the brits to have an offshore colony, whose people pay little or no taxes that make dumping to the surronding area, made of Genoese people brought there, and no Britons, which are 30.000 privileged people that only want to keep those privileges, and all that after having rendered millions of ordinary people to a comunist regime in Hong Kong.
@@miguellatre you fool, gibraltarians pay high taxes. They also employ 15000 people living in spain because madrid have no work for them. Gibraltarians spend hundreds of thousands of pounds in la linea on day trips every year. Without that these shops would struggle. If spain closes the border then 15000 people will be out of work. Their families and shops in la linea would struggle. Madrid wouldnt care about them. Funny how people who dont live in the area always comment how gibraltar would struggle without mentioning what i have said. Maybe people who comment should ask these workers, business leaders and unions in la linea what they think. They have already told the madrid government about the disaster for them if spain closes the border
@@tuberroot1112It isn't true! Only new territories were rented. The bulk of the colony, Hong Kong Island and Kowloon peninsula were of British ownership, and were surrended to the comunists while in Gibraltar, a money loundry, tobacco smuggling place, tax haven and pirates nest, Britons try to justify it despite of these are privileged people brought there from Genoa and north Africa.
@@tuberroot1112 NO. The lease was not Hong Kong, but the so-called "New Territories". The problem was, if you give them back to China, without the New Territories Honk Kong would became unsustenaible. It would be very fast, because there are 4 million people there, but, actually, it's a not-so-different situation. The difference is that Spain is not a corrupt dictatorial country, where you drop your citizens, and you can make some arrangement for the future, something good for both parts
If Spain really pushes it, Gibraltar would be in a weaker position. Spain could simply close the border and cut all kind of lines: roads, ferries, telecommunications, water, energy, ... . It would simply have to tell its citizens "Get yourself a job in Spain." The question is what kind of treaties there are that have to be respected. I, as the Spanish PM, would have locked them out since long. Gibraltar would have been depopulated for 90% in a few weeks or months, but I am sure the Brits would have brought more military personnel to the rock just to hold it. But that would be terribly costly for them.
Spain did exactly that decades ago and it didn’t work in the slightest. What makes you, an outsider, so confident that it would work again. The reason us Gibraltarians are so adamantly anti Spanish government and pro Britain is due to the bully tactics that you have expertly come up with. Roads, we have our own ;) ferries, we can establish our own, telecommunications, we run our own, water, we produce our own, energy, we produce our own. I suppose I must be part of the 10% that will remain.
@@Robespierre-lI agreed. Had franco and his Falangists not tried to starve us out we would likely be Spanish today. The loss of Spanish as the dominant language only happened because of their actions to bully us into submission. My parents and grandparents and their generation used to and still do use Spanish as their dominant language but taught their kids to speak English due to the new identity born from the actions of the Spanish government.
The problem with bullies is that they only understand strength. China only recovered territories lost to the UK after the power imbalance shifted in their favor 🤔. They are not going to do what's right out of the goodness of their hearts... Only by closing access to non-schengen countries to the Schengen area will the few people in Gibraltar understand their new situation. Only by taking the strongest possible positions against collaboration with the UK will this former Spanish territory go back to them.
@@geofflepper3207 It`s funny how some people use the treaty of Utrecht for some things, but not for others, because, if we are going to adhere to the treaty, you should know that Gibraltar has no sovereign waters, and their airport is partially in spanish land.......so what will be, Utrecht or not? (It also states that if GB ever gives up Gibraltar, it reverts to Spain, regardless of what its population thinks about it........)
Gibraltar is Not the only closest point from Europe to Africa there other points on the Spanish peninsula that are just close and strategic as Gibraltar. No exageres tanto.
England will eventually need to give Gibraltar to Spain as a pre-requisite for agreeing to admit them back in the EU (as one of the votes). The English are very slow in comprehending anything beyond the idea of a ‘single-market.’ None of them have a clue on what they’ll be giving up. It’s not in their mindset - yet.
unlikely to ever happen. When the Brits left the EU they also gave up all of their exemptions and opt outs; even if the EU agreed to readmit the UK it would require submission to all EU policies-Schengen, single currency, CAP etc. There is no way any British public could stomach that, so Britain is destined to be a pimple on the ass of Europe forever.
Considering you refer to England when you mean BRITAIN (no they are not the same thing) you will forgive me if i find your opinion just as ignorant We comprehend FULLY, it is you that dosnt comprehend our reasons why
Theres no "hatred" between Britain and Spain! Britain and Spain are still allies, and the Spanish even pushed the EU to give the UK special rights when it comes to migration (Young Spaniards move to Britain for work and older Brits move to Spain to retire) it was a mutually beneficial arrangement
I lived in Gibraltar for two and a half years, with a hard border, it was not a problem. Passport checks were rapid in both directions, 15,000 people per day used to cross, in both directions. Only when Harold Wilson, another Labour Fool, ''upset the apple cart'' did it become a problem. Once he was gone things reverted to normal again. Britain signed the treaty of Utrecht, and has abused it ever since. The original purpose for Britain occupying Gibraltar has long expired, *so it should be returned to Spain, as per the Utrecht treaty.* .
Nah, Gibraltar is full of people that don`t want to be Spanish. We have already enough of that. All we are asking is that they stop beeing a nuisance, agree the shared use of the airport, come to an agreement over the disputed waters, and stop beeing a tax heaven and a save haven for smugglers........I think it`s not unreasonable......and in return, we will not opose it`s integration in the Shengen-space, while still beeing under british sovereignty. In my opinion, it`s a hell of a deal! Indeed, it`s the best they can hope for......
It is clear who your bias is for. The original treaty in which Gibraltar was ceded to the UK only refers to the rock as the land being ceded, no land further north nor any territorial waters. The UK has since then moved the border up taking advantage of the fact that we were at war somewhere else, has reclaimed land from the sea (Gibraltar doesn't have any territorial waters so it was stolen from Spain), has built a damn airport runway on the stretch of land illegally occupied and by reclaiming even more land from Spain, and has developed a huge fishing harbor (once again by reclaiming spanish water) that steals the fish from Spanish fishermen (again, those are spanish waters). Even the United Nations has categorized Gibraltar as the last colony in Europe.
So why does the voice of the UN trump the voice of those living there? The UN who have never visited us, the UN who has never asked our opinion And before you say it, no we are not colonists from the UK. My family is Spanish and Italian yet still proudly British ;)
Gibraltar is nothing other than a non-self-governing territory, subject to the process of decolonisation, in two words: a colony. It was included on the UN list of territories to be decolonised in 1963 and has remained there ever since. Since that year, therefore, the UN Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples, the so-called Committee of 24, has included it among the territories within its competence. In 1964 this Committee reached a consensus on the situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territory of Gibraltar urging the United Kingdom and Spain to begin talks without delay in order to find a negotiated solution. The following year the General Assembly endorsed the terms of the consensus and invited both nations to begin such talks. Year after year the UN has maintained this mandate to the two states, which therefore remains in full force and effect. It is also worth noting that the UN calls for decolonisation in accordance with the principle of territorial integrity and not by virtue of any supposed right of self-determination of a hypothetical Gibraltarian ‘people’ (indeed, in 1967 it condemned the referendum held in Gibraltar). It does state that the interests of the people of Gibraltar must be heard. They have an excellent channel for that: the British Government. negotiations on sovereignty are a matter for London and Madrid alone. In short, for the UN what we have is a colonial situation that must be brought to an end. Disputes between countries must be resolved in accordance with international law, not on the basis of the proclaimed will of a people. The British have always abused our good faith and our moments of weakness. Spain voluntarily established a neutral zone, while maintaining its exclusive sovereignty. In 1815, for humanitarian reasons and because of a yellow fever epidemic, the British were authorised to use it temporarily to build a sanitary camp, but this zone was never returned. The airport was built in 1938, in the middle of the Spanish Civil War, on the usurped isthmus, under the misleading name of ‘emergency landing strip’, later converted into an aerodrome, airport and finally, an air base. The fence had to be opened in 1986 because of the risk of the British exercising their veto on Spain's entry into the EU.
@@ahones2255 Spanish good faith do me a favour when has Spain had good faith it’s full of self absorbed and I won’t I won’t and it’s not fare nothing but a lot of moaners you lost Gibraltar fare and square I don’t understand why they just don’t concentrate on all the problems and constant problems they have within there own country they only won’t Gibraltar because we’re prosperous unfortunately, they’re full of jealousy and hatred because they can’t manage there own country and own people correctly bless um 😆I feel sorry for them
Dear ahones, congratulations to you, This is a great comment and I have checked the details, you are right. Your slight personal opinions are clearly separated from the facts, this makes it all highly transparent. Let the British enjoy their Empire and some UK expats can still enjoy their non Gibraltarian Spain.
Dude, you cannot talk about the history of Gibraltar and go all the way back to the War of Spanish Succession but then forget the airport, Gibraltar's special status in the EU that London got from Madrid or the current cross-border economic issues.
@@willempasterkamp862 It's not that simple. If the UK gives up its sovereignty over Gibraltar, it automatically reverts to Spain. If Gibraltar wants its independence, it probably has to become Spanish first and then petition Spain for independence.
@@lellyparker If EU and UK can make a deal over northern ireland the same can be done with Gibraltar. Depends on willingness or unwillingness of both sides, UK will not bend to territorial claims.
I have to grudgingly admit Brexit was mistake. There is now enough data to prove that the British economy was damaged by Brexit. I hope nobody in Spain celebrates the troubles in Britain because it is still the 2nd largest economy along with France in Western Europe. If the Brits collapse, it hurts everyone in the EU, including Spain. The way I see, the Brits were economically sabotaged by their own upper classes.
Unfortunately the video got the name of the other EU country the UK shares a border with wrong. Ireland is the name of the country, Republic of Ireland is the name of the football team. Irish cars have the letters IRL in the blue rectangle on the registration plate, not ROI, additionally you won't find the words Republic of Ireland anywhere in an Irish passport. The name of the country registered in the United Nations is Ireland and Article 4 of the Irish Constitution states the name of the State is "Ireland".... why do so many UA-cam videos get this wrong?
It could all blow over with a deal. However, tensions have risen while this has been in production. First, according to the Spectator, the UK "is preparing to lodge a formal complaint with Spain over Gibraltar. Spanish military aircraft have twice flown over the Rock in the past ten days." Second, Spanish Foreign Minister Albares has publicly pressured the UK to agree a deal before the EU implements new fingerprint and facial scans at Schengen borders. Reuters quotes him as saying: ""It's time for the United Kingdom to say yes to a balanced and generous agreement that we have put on the table a long time ago." Finally, the UK Government announced it was transferring sovereignty of Indian Ocean Territory Chagos Islands to Mauritius. forcing Prime Minister Starmer to assert that it wasn't the start of a larger effort to give back other overseas holdings, like the Falklands and Gibraltar.
If you were to tell the story of the rock you should tell all of it. Not only the Great Siege. But also the terms of the peace that gave Gibraltar to UK, wich explicitly does not inclue the territorial waters. Also the siezing of further land in the isthmus building an airport well pass the agreed border for 200 years. Gibrarltar is soverign UK territory, I can assure that, but there are a lot of controversies like the airport on spanish land not ceded to the UK, and the territorial claims of the water around the rock, in wich oil tankers refuel on sea, sometimes causing oil spills that end up in spanish beaches affecting their wildlife and tourism while oiltanker-refuiling on shore is forbidden in spanish territorial waters for that same reason
The bottom line is that Brexit puts a hard border between Gibraltar and Spain and if the UK wants to change that then it has to cut a deal. Spain offered the UK a deal they turned it down. Simple. Welcome to capitalism. None of this has anything to do with Gibraltar's sovereignty or what happened with Chagos Islands. It is the same old problem of the British Government being unwilling to face the consequences for Brexit and blaming everyone else for it.
Optimism with Starmer policies? No way, we learned the lesson. Also because what is Starmer actually saying?: UK: “We have to strengthen our relations with the EU” EU: “Ok, go on, what are your ideas about it” UK: “That we have to strengthen our relations with the EU” EU: “Ok but how?” UK: “Strengthening our relations with the EU” EU: “OMG” This is just like the old sh*t “Brexit is Brexit”, UK won’t see anything coming from the EU, we’re ok with the situation right now, it’s your turn. Eventually, you know, “UK holds all the cards” and “EU needs UK more than UK needs EU” so it won’t be so difficult, right?
Spain has colonies, Canary Islands, Ceuta, Melilla, internally some in Catalonia are not happy being part of Spain. lots of countries have overseas territories, it’s not as easy as just saying there shouldn’t be any.
@@davidshaw952 Are you serious? Not a single country on Earth labels them as colonies. Spain has no overseas territories, each of those has been part of Spain for longer than 500 years and those people have the exact same rights as the rest of Spaniards. Gibraltar IS a colony according to the UN.
@@aramvillar3252 What about Ceuta and Melilla? Those are Spanish overseas colonies. Not to mention Catalonia, which was occupied by the Spaniards also in the context of the Spanish Succession War some 300 years ago.
What about Ceuta and Melilla which are both located within/next to Morocco (depending on one’s point of view)? Aren’t these Spanish overseas territories?
Why doesn't Gibraltar declare independence? It would make a whole lot of practical sense; for them to subsequently join the EU since they did vote 90% to remain.
I suspect that this is more difficult than it seems. IIRC the Treaty giving Gibraltar to the UK stipulates that if the UK gives up its sovereignty over Gibraltar, then sovereignty automatically reverts to Spain. So to become independent, it may be that Gibraltar would have to return to being Spainish first and then petition the Spanish government.
@@willempasterkamp862 The inhabitants of Gibraltar are colonizers. The native population was expelled and founded the city of San Roque. If anyone should vote on decolonization, I do not think it will be the settlers who occupied the territory, but rather the descendants of the expelled population.
No one is talking about the fact that we are on an island, meaning that trading with the UK is already naturally harder than those with land borders. Now we faced more paperwork and wait times, and even sending goods to NI can require customs checks as NI is part of the UK and (at least partially) in the EU customs union. This is done to prevent border checks with Ireland, an EU state. We also now continue to recognise the CE logo seen in toys and electrical goods (for example), which the UKCA logo intended to replace. The CE/UKCA deadline has been extended multiple times (originally 31 December 2021) before the permanent extension in August 2023.
If my age of civ playthroughs are any indication, there's a 60% chance Gibraltar randomly forms a union with Malta (idk why that tends to happen in that game lmao). Seriously though, interesting update on the situation!
As a Brit I found your video to be very informative. Thank you. I moved to the EU after the vote and said then that Gibraltar would kick off again. The lies told by the political prostitutes in England were outrageous. Shame on them. I have now subscribed to your channel. Again, thank you. All the best.
As a British Gibraltarian and I think I speak for many other fellow Gibraltarians we all feel let down by subsequent UK Governments that have left us completely at the mercy of Spain and the EU with Brexit.
I'm not sure why British history ever gave you any faith in the UK. I'm English and I don't trust British governments in the slightest. Our politics is toxic and corrupted by money interests and a bought and paid for press.
Gibraltar or rather The Gibraltarians don't figure in the English mind for consideration. It only figures as a conquest to massage the ego and jingoistic feelings of the Tory right and the extreme right. Gibraltar wasn't even discussed in the pre-Brexit referendum.
Brits don't get the luxury of picking and choosing over the pieces of the carcass they created. But it's very elitist for them to try. Spain should regain control as a cost of Brexit. Decisions come with costs and consequences. Case closed.
@@xaverlustig3581 Gibraltar was stolen from Spain in 1704. Just like Northern Ireland, geography plays a role in Brexit. Brits put themselves into this situation and they need to pay the price for their stupidity.
@@rafaelm.2056 Colonialism was about stealing land, but how exactly is Spain different? :) Gibraltar and Ceuta/Melilla are exact mirror images of each other. If you think it's wrong for a European country to keep remnants of its colonial past, fair enough, Britain hands Gibraltar to Spain and Spain hands Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco. If you think keeping bits of the old colonial empire is fine, also fair enough, each side keeps theirs. But you don't get to pick. [Edit] Brexit is irrelevant for the issue of who owns what territory.
Indeed: there are dozens of places like this all over Europe, and that's one reason the EU was created. Unfortunately, the UK never seems to have understood this, so now it has to deal with the consequences.
I think "hate" is a litlle bit harsh.....annoyance would be more precise........also, it is not as we have a choice......we MUST apllie EU laws in our country (mostly because, as a part of the EU,we contribute in the making of these laws), so , either Gibraltar takes the necesary steps to integrate into theShengen space......, or it will be a third party, and treated acordingly. Sorry, no cherrypicking.......... You can be in, or out, but not both.......
Spain ceded Gibraltar to the UK as part of a broader peace settlement, but it wasn’t specifically in exchange for help from the UK. The cession was a direct consequence of the War of Spanish Succession (1701-1714) and its resolution through the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. Here’s a clearer breakdown of how this unfolded: 1. War of Spanish Succession: • The war erupted after the death of the Spanish king, Charles II, who died without an heir in 1700. This left a power vacuum in Europe, as different factions wanted to control the Spanish throne. • The main contenders were the French-backed Philip of Anjou (who would become Philip V of Spain) and the Austrian Archduke Charles. • Britain, along with its allies (including the Dutch Republic and Austria), supported Archduke Charles, fearing that a French-controlled Spain would disrupt the balance of power in Europe. • As part of the war effort, a joint Anglo-Dutch fleet captured Gibraltar from Spain in 1704, seizing it on behalf of Archduke Charles. 2. Treaty of Utrecht (1713): • By 1713, the war was exhausting for all parties, and peace negotiations began. • The Treaty of Utrecht was a series of agreements between the warring nations. Under the treaty: • Philip V was recognized as the legitimate king of Spain, but Spain lost several key territories. • As a term of the treaty, Spain ceded Gibraltar “in perpetuity” to Britain, along with the island of Minorca (although Minorca was later returned to Spain). • The treaty was not about direct military aid but rather settling territorial claims and ending the long, costly conflict. 3. Why Did Spain Cede Gibraltar?: • By 1713, Spain was in a weak position. It had suffered military defeats and was negotiating to preserve its monarchy and overall territorial integrity. • Britain, having captured Gibraltar and considering it a key naval stronghold, insisted on keeping it as a bargaining chip in the treaty. Spain ceded it in exchange for broader peace and stability under the new Bourbon dynasty. 4. Gibraltar’s Importance to the UK: • Gibraltar’s strategic location at the entrance to the Mediterranean made it highly valuable to Britain as a naval base. • The UK gained control over an important maritime route, giving it influence over naval operations in both the Mediterranean and the Atlantic. Conclusion: While Spain did not cede Gibraltar in exchange for direct help from Britain, it was part of the broader peace settlement at the end of the War of Spanish Succession. Spain conceded the territory as part of a compromise to end the war and secure recognition of its new Bourbon monarchy, in return for stability across Europe. The UK kept Gibraltar because of its military and strategic importance.
It was the retribution to betray the Catalans that were still resisting the Bourbons in Barcelona. Britain's ships abandoned Barcelona which allowed Bourbon troops the deadly 1 year long siege a final defeat in 1714. (Commanded by the Duke of Berwik, fighting with the French, a rare sight...) A Catalan proposal to be part of the British empire as the rest of the English controlled remaining lands, (Gibraltar and Minorca), arrived a couple of days late of the Treaty of Utrech to the parlament, and could really have changed history. The English thought Barcelona had already fallen as sieges barely took months in the XVIII century and they had no news.
Yes spot on, the video is very pro-EU and forgot real history. Borders like this exists in many places like Andorra and Lichtenstein. This "hard" border is all about politics and most people in the comments here don't realise that
@@is_42 I completely agree. It’s unfortunate that since the Brexit referendum, the EU hasn’t fully respected that this was a democratic decision. A fundamental principle of democracy is honoring the will of the people, and in this case, the referendum was conducted lawfully and fairly. Respecting that outcome is vital for upholding democratic values. Furthermore, the ongoing hostility from Spain over Gibraltar and France’s handling of illegal immigration only reinforces the British public’s belief that EU membership was a way for European nations to exert control and extract as much money from Britain as possible.
The French negotiated the treaty and had no option but to cede the territory as Britain refused to vacate it unlike the other nationalities which took part in the occupation. This was clearly the intention of the English from the beginning as Admiral Rooke had previously attempted to gain a foothold in the Mediterranean as was familiar with the area. The surrender of the Fort was taken on terms and on behalf of Carlos III pretender to the crown of Spain. The occupation was pure and simple an opportunistic act and Spain is never going to relinquish its territorial integrity.
I was in Gibraltar in mid November. It was easy to go back-and-forth between Spain and Gibraltar. There was in fact, a tangible sense of tension between the two countries they were cordial to me because I was an American the English. I talk to were very clear that Spain will never get Gibraltar back.
A well considered presentation of the history and potential future of Gibraltar. I reckon that the the current temporary arrangement to keep the border as frictionless as possible is going to have to last a very long time as it is impossible to achieve this within a "permanent" agreement to which all sides can agree.
Yes there have always been problems between Spain and England becouse of Gibraltar... From day one Spain refused to lose that small part of it's TERRITORY... Which IS normal... Isn't It ?...
10:50 👮 [Hard] border checks always existed when crossing the English Channel as 🇬🇧 Britain was not part of the 🇪🇺 Schengen area requiring no checks at borders 🤔
Those checks did not apply to movements of goods, provision of services and capital with freedom of movement. The UK was until 2020 in the EU’s single market and customs union. As with Northern Ireland, Brexit has exposed contradictions between sovereignty with borders and access to the benefits of the EU’s four freedoms. It cannot be made to work.
Yeah, but the checks are much more annoying when one have to be checked for muggling. Every Day. Twice. Is not that bad, Catalan people working in Andorra does this every day and doesn't seem to have much of a problem... It depends on how hard/frequently check.
@@ilokivi Apart from everyone being passport/ID controlled crossing the UK border pre-Brexit, customs checks also existed on those trying to import goods over the limit for personal consumption 🤔
The solution is FAR easier: return the rock to Spain. That will erase the hard border (and the border itself). The British Empire is long dead, there’s no point in keepig it any longer. Also, the airport and the extension of the port violates the Utretch treaty: they only had rights to the rock, not to the istmus nor the waters. A violation like that would result in a forced return back in the 1700s. Why not now?
NO in the Utrecht TREATY didn't hand in the whole of the Rock of Gibraltar.... But it's Town and small Port. NO MUSLIMS or JEWS allowed to settle... NO ships of theirs allowed to Dock.... NO contact what so ever with the rest of Spain... Etc,etc... NOT EVEN... ONE ...OF THE UTRECHT TREATY ARTICLES WERE EVER RESPECTED BY THE LONDON CROOKS..
England might just give up Gibraltar back to Spain. the brexit voters never thought of Gibraltar Northern Ireland just little England and if Scotland leaves the uk will be dead and England will be happy become a poor 3rd world north korea of Europe. The torys should ve all in jail and the party outlawed and uk should reconnect to the eu if it wants a future its only getting worse England water are getting more full of sewage which the torys supported in the eu the law would kick in and be putting cells in jail
The United Kingdom conquered a piece of Spain by military force in 1704, and has occupied it illegally ever since. It is a shame that it remains the only British colony in Europe. The United Kingdom has been and will always be a nest of pirates. But the glories of the Empire are now a thing of the past.
From Portugal the British should return to their island and leave Gibraltar to its true Iberian owners, instead of giving that island to Mauritius they should leave Gibraltar
From Britain, the Portugese should stay in their lane, since your country was just as bad as ours (worse in fact) when it comes to colonising places, your critisism is about as valid as a pot calling out a kettle 🤣
@@TonySpike mate My country never colonized Europe, you who should leave the Iberian Peninsula are already late! In that case we will stay with Spain, our ethnic, cultural and religious brothers.
It would be nice to hear your opinion about Olivenza.... it's Portuguese territory waiting to be returned since the Viena treaty. Spain can not have both! claim Gibratal from the UK, and pretend Olivenza is not Portuguese
I can see Spain introducing an entry/exit fee of say 30 euros if there's no treaty, for entering intoo Gib or Spain from Gib. and use the proceeds to subsidise the redundant 15,000 workers who would not be able to work in Gibraltar. Call it a levelling up solidarity payment.
As always when it comes to these matters, the British position is a silly one. They wanted hard borders. Obviously, this is going to hurt Gibraltarians more than Spaniards. Losing a job in Gibraltar will be hard for Spaniards. But, having all the rest of their country to work in, they will find it easier to adapt.
For decades I have heard nothing but story after story about English speakers saying that the Spanish residents are desperate for the jobs in Gibraltar. But here is the deal, Spain has a $2.5 trillion dollar annual Purchase Power Parity GDP economy. Gibraltar has an economy of a measly $2 billion per annum. To Spain, that colony is just a drop in the ocean. Most of those Gibraltar jobs are not that well paying anyhow, and before English speakers arrogantly look down on Spain for being "poor", let me remind everyone that outside of the London area and a few parts of Scotland, the Midlands, Wales, and other area in the UK is now poorer than the most economically disadvantaged state in the USA, and that is the state of Mississippi. Its easy to look down and sneer at the poor. But when you too are poor, its called the pot calling the kettle black.
@@-Malvez- You act like those arrogant Gibraltarians have anything of value to offer any person from Spain, but that is just not so more than ever. Get real guy.
@@stefanz9929 how about the minimum of 15,000 jobs that are created for the campo area that directly made for cross border workers in Gibraltar and all the dependents that live off that? Not to mention the tax benefits to the Spanish economy, the Spanish love their taxes 😍 (15k is just the official number, that’s not counting all the workers who come and aren’t documented) How about the millions of € gibraltarians spend in the Spanish economy in restaurants, clubs, parks, shops etc? How about the millions of people who travel through Spain each year to go to Gibraltar for tourism? Costs money to get down here. How about the immense amount of charity work done by Gibraltarians constantly for Spanish people who are left behind by their government? Especially shown during the Valencia disaster. You don’t give a shit about the Spanish people living in the south. We do.
@@-Malvez- Again, those are not middleclass jobs. And given that Gibraltar has a puny economy smaller than a Spanish multinational corporation, they have nothing to brag about. You are grossly overstating the economic influence of Gibraltar on Spain. Here in the USA, when an area gets economically depressed, people move elsewhere and find new jobs and life just moves on. I am sure its no different in Spain or other parts of Europe.
@ what a surprise, someone with no stake in the matter thinking they know it all 😂 Some are lower class and some are middle class, they are jobs nonetheless for people who have none. I don’t see why this is an issue or something to be ashamed as you perhaps seem to think. You think it’s as easy as that for people to up and leave? Comedic. And leave to where? Unless they leave Spain their wages are better in Gibraltar than Spain. Really good solution Mr USA, everyone should just leave and abandon their homes that their families have lived in for centuries 😂
Spain with the backing of the EU is holding all the good cards. Gibraltar is not a colony as the original inhabitants were chased out. It was a British base and attracted economic migrants and prostitutes who came to the rock to provide services to the base. These people came from Spain Portugal Italy Malta and Morocco. Ultimately the UK govt runs the show and Gibraltar can be considered similar to a small town in the UK. The CM is more akin to a mayor as he has no control over the army external affairs or even the police. These people have always been opportunistic and their loyalty to the UK is based on pure monetary issues and not for any real love for King or country.
The UK and Spain had made an agreement that EU border and customs people could make checks at the port and airport but no Spanish people. After we left the EU cancelled that deal saying it had to be Spanish making the checks. a 5 year temporary deal was agreed while a long term agreement was made. That 5 year period has just ended with no agreement. On 9 October a Spanish police officer insisted all non eu passports must be stamped in and out, so Gibraltar did the same. Long queues built up, it seems there was no actual official commend for this and the Spanish backed down. Spain demands have been rejected by the Gibraltar people. Spain threatens a hard border or else. Gibraltar says fine close the border and find work for your 10,000 Spanish people who go to Gibraltar everyday. Franco shut the border in 1969. It was fully reopened in 1985 so that Spain could join the EU Franco had died 10 years earlier. Talks between the EU and UK over Northern ireland customs etc were overall handled by Sefcovic and they also dragged on for years. Sefcovic is also overseeing these talks from thr EU side of things. Re NI talks VDL took charge and agreed a sensible solution. I don´t think Spain will close te border, the local politicians will be out of a job quite soon.
@@Juan-garcia2025 Why not? The UK recently handed back the Chagos Islands to Mauritius (in this case it is a bit hard to give it its independence considering they forceable cleared the islands of all Chagossians between 1965 to 1973).
@@psidot Because of the treaty of utrecht, there is a clause of the agreement that in case of the UK trying to change the regime stablished, spain has the right to Undo the cesion of giblartar, so is british as long as it stays under the UK, granting them independence would violate this clause giving the right to Spain to recover gibraltar.
@@elduquedelaburrimiento6092 What's a treaty worth? You just draw up a new treaty where the people of Gibraltar decide what they want. And if Spain is not happy with the decision made, then they always have the option to invade and take it by force.
@@1ForTheShieldz Brexit was a bad idea that appealed to the uninformed, xenphobes and bigots. Skilfully sold by a few operators some of whom made a lot of money as a result, but for the country as whole it's proving to be a dissater.
Bring in Cyprius and the UK base...........ulster all the same???...love from an Irishman in Valencia ..How is your passport???.....look at the history.? it was only a rock?? Now a sea-level airport plus shipping movements 1813?? LONDONderry.....Gibraltarv96 % remain in EU.....64 % Ulster REMIAN in where??
@@Tas17.4you mean apart from the Spaniards who’ve been trying to get it for decades 😂😂 What’s the name of the town you’re from, let’s compare some statistics.
If you read the Utrecht agreement well, the UK has the use of Gibraltar nowhere says anything about the sovereignty, however Spain doesn’t really care at all about the rock like the British do
@@brotherlestat305 Four riflemen of the 5th Battalion have just been jailed for selling 100k pounds worth of cocaine to their comrades and buying designer clothes with the dough, I wouldn't be so sure
Gibraltar is yet another case of colonisation surviving to the present. Thus, our legitimacy in holding it is sketchy at best and it is probably only still around because of popular support within the colony. Honestly, I think Gibraltar is more trouble than it's worth to keep and I'd prefer to return it to Spain. However, for as long as Spain occupies territory in Morocco they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to demanding the return of Gibraltar.
What territory does Spain occupy in Morocco? If you are referring to Ceuta and Melilla, I indicate that those territories were handed over to the Visgoth Kingdom of Hypania in the 5th century after the fall of the Roman Empire... Morocco was founded in 1956
The UK reluctance to give up property be it Gibraltar or the Malvinas is sheer bloody-mindedness, entitlement and too bad for anyone else. Like claiming "freedom" for Hongkong now after having colonised it for years.
@@lollymannaso you think the entirety of the EU should team up to invade a peninsula of under 40,000 inhabitants in order to force them to join a foreign state they do not wish to join?? Sounding a lot like Mr Putin. Good to see your true colors ;)
Financial Services was not included in any of the Brexit agreement. Gibraltar is a UK problem. Brexit was forced on it and if it wishes to have an easy border with the EU then it needs to be part of Schengen.
As a Spaniard that has been to Gibraltar that place is unique, with its culture and even its own creole and not Spain since a long time. I think it should be left as is. Not really UK not really Spain and with a special arrangement with both. But that’s me.
None of the above, just bring any kind of contraband like illegal drugs, tobacco, basically anything illegal that is at the expense of others and they will love you.
Good Video! Especially mentioning why controlling that area was so important for securing the access to the Suez Channel. What's missing IMHO is the presence of British Secret Service SIGINT in that area (for reasons). One has to see the Spanish point of view, too: Spain has the feeling to be permanently spied on! Spain is (like Germany) neither member in the ring of the 'five eyes' nor the ring of the 'Nine Eyes' , but only in the ring of the '14 Eyes'. Many Germans are still aware of what that means since it turned out that the USA spied on Merkel directly (in Obama Times...)
To simplify the whole situation into “Spanish resentment” and nationalism makes the whole video sound stupid. It’s a question of geopolitics, law and sovereignity. No nation will have a tax haven, a nest of smugglers and drug dealers and a bus stop for nuclear subs at their doorstep for free. And without the EU framework the UK has the same rights as Morocco and this seems hard to understand to the average entitled englishman.
It's time to either let Gibraltar go.....or at least give the people of Gibraltar a referendum. This referendum would have a three-way future: A) Would you like to remain a British Overseas Territory B) Would you like to become part of Spain OR C) Would you like to be a fully independent 'City State' (similar to Singapore) But the bottom line is the British government owe the people of a Gibraltar a referendum to determine their own future. The days of Empire are over. Britain needs to acknowledge this, re-invent itself.....and move on. The world is not going to revolve around Britain ever again. Brexiters need to realise this. This 'new empire' they want, is just pure fantasy.
Sure, you just need to add some context to what it means in reality: A) Would you like to remain a British Overseas Territory - Close the border, no more deliveries of food, products, labour, electricity, drinking water and use of the superior Spanish healthcare. B) Would you like to become part of Spain - Become a region of Spain and negotiate with the Spanish Government just as all other Spanish regions have to do. C) Would you like to be a fully independent 'City State' (similar to Singapore) - Negotiate with Spain and the EU, and face option "A" should Gibraltar refuse to Tango...
@@mfredholmwe produce our own drinking water, electricity and have our own healthcare system. Food we can get from Morocco as we have done in the past. (I’d prefer if we currently still got all our food from Morocco but unfortunately that’s not the case) And I’m would still vote for option A in your scenario don’t worry.
@@scooby1992 Their arrogance let them down and now they are stuck on an island with no where to go unless they go to the Pacific and that will cost them even more money on top of what they are already paying for leaving the EU but I guess they chose to learn the hard way what can you say
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Britain voted to leave the E.U. And then gets pissed when what they voted for actually happens 🤦♂️
When a Brit gets "pissed" it means he's had too much to drink. Maybe you meant "pissed off". That means he's not happy.
@@tuberroot1112 same thing, i have seen tons of angry drunk brits, but never a happy drunk one
To be fair Gibraltar voted to remain. They knew the problem Brexit would create
@@timoakley277 so did Northern Ireland 🤷♂️
@@tuberroot1112unless you are an enlightened gigachad and speak american.
When the Brexiteers preached about border controls, they mostly meant Britain specifically, and only one-way, from Europe into the U.K. They were shocked and unprepared for the idea that border controls are a two-way street and they were outraged that now Brits looking to live and work in the EU were legally (GASP!) *immigrants!* Gibraltar as an exclave is a problem for Brits who moved there for the climate, but expect free access into Spain. They also want Spanish workers to get in because the Brits didn't move there to wait tables in restaurants.
Waiting tables in Gibraltar won't pay the bills for a Spanish local. But the Brit can always swamp the rock with North Africans. But, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
We managed fine before 73, the only problem we had was the size of the UK Passport I recall.
@@georgeh1352 - Interesting idea, except that the U.K. economy was in decline even back then, which led to Thatcher and her brutal policies a decade later. To many Brits cannot accept either the fact that they no longer rule the Commonwealth, nor were they the dominant power in the E.U. It's a sad little country desperately looking for an empire to rule again.
A very poor analysis relying heavily upon outdated stereotypes.
Re the video, a well considered presentation of the history and potential future of Gibraltar. I reckon that the the current temporary arrangement to keep the border as frictionless as possible is going to have to last a very long time as it is impossible to achieve this within a "permanent" agreement to which all sides can agree.
@ - None of which will change British hypocritical anger about needing to pass through customs *into* the EU. Brexiteers pretended, and their voters believed, that any border controls would be one-way going *into* the U.K., but still wide open going into the EU.
The people of Gibraltar voted to stay in the EU (along with Northern Ireland and Scotland) as they knew the benefits that it brought and how it "fudged" the border issue
It just shows how the EU project actually did work to stifle nationalism
They all shopped in spain before Brexit, imagine now.
they did not vote to be ruled by Spain .
@@andrewdavies8954 Correct, and Spain has no obligation to keep its border open.
Scottish People havent been right since the sugar ban .... Im scottish and I dont even know what Im doing at anyone time.
Then the people of Gibraltar and NI need to have a referendum to leave the UK and be ruled by either Spain or the Irish government, if that’s what they want then they can have it.
Interesting video
But- as a UK citizen and National Health Service practitioner; seeing that red Brexit bus with it’s ridiculous lies written on it, makes me sick.
The true aim of Brexit was all about deregulating the Financial services in the city of London. Thank goodness bankers have their bonuses back!
And how did you yourself vote in the referendum and the following "confirmation" when Bozo Johnson won?
The NHS stood idly by while people were confined and poisoned. I had a month’s trial but the thought of working there was repulsive.
@@donquixote3927 what absurd nonsense!!!!!
@@mfredholm I voted remain! I preferred economic advantage rather than restricting our economy!
I could NEVER vote for a conniving ‘snake oil merchant’ like Alexander decuffle Johnson!
But if they want to spend those bonuses they will have to leave the UK.
As a British citizen, sadly, I have to say that 99% of Brexit problems have not been solved, as stated. Britain is irrevocably broken.
and yall chose that, its hard to feel sorry when you people voted to break your country
That 99% are problems caused by the London government.
Agreed. I am perturbed by how the two major parties of the UK are effectively burying their heads in the sand over the economic catastrophe Brexit has brought. It is as if they want to continue to live in this fantasy that the UK will somehow soldier on through when in reality we are now a country falling downing in GDP metrics, living standards collapsing with public finances shot. Not to mention the Gibraltar, Northern Irish situation.
@@raellawrence7116 Our future prosperity lies with Europe - not America. Brexiters think that America cares about us post-Brexit, but the reality is that they don't really. They just care about themselves....like America always has done.
If japan can survive with minimal chinese influence, than what makes britain cant do the same with mainland europe?
Gibraltar needs Spain more than Spain needs Gibraltar as there isn’t a way to convince Brits to move there to replace these workers and there’s not enough housing for them anyway
@@ralphe5842 People are a resource. Maybe reclaim land in the sea and build accommodation for them.
Pull that ridiculous mosk down.
@@insomniacresurrected1000they can't do that because the water around them is Spanish
I'm guessing you don't live there? If you did you'd know it's one of the poorest regions with the highest unemployment in Spain which is overrun with drug gangs. Gibraltar is a huge employer at above average Spanish wage.
@@jeremyjudd5236 Then if you don't need Spain simply close the border... end of story 👍
The UK vote to leave the EU and then blame Spain and the EU for taking it seriously and acting like the UK left... :O
You really couldn't make it up could you??
Good po8nt, make the eu take the migrants back and enforce a better border. Thank god we left those small minded twits over there. I voted remain, I was wrong, everyone who vote remain regrets it.
@@AtakenSmith
What you are not considering is that, in fact, the brexit vote was undertaken by only a small percentage of uk citizens and even so those who voted to leave EU only won their vote by a narrow margin!! On the whole, most British people were happy to, be, part of EU and were used to, being, part of EU!! No!! Even though, "officially" having to leave because of that vote doesn't mean, and, is no excuse, for EU to take a harsh attitude towards British people, and, to punish them by not letting them roam Europe freely without the need of a visa because of what politicians had chosen to do!! I was born, in, England, but, I was brought up in Germany but, now, I am, not, permitted to visit that country, which is my home, for over "180!"! days, yearly and it's not my fault!! In, Spain, tens of thousands of British people are, now, having their houses, in, Spain, either sold, or, devalued, because of that visa punishment, by, EU!! On top of all that, before Britain, and, Spain, joined there was absolutely no visa requirement, anyhow! That visa requirement for British people has only happened as a means of punishing British people because of what their politicians did, and, it is wrong, and, is totally, unfair!!
@@Boris-k7g If you favour a globalist world you will be anti-brexit... If you favour a world of nations you will be pro-brexit
(and if you don't care or understand you probably didn't vote)
There is no way to determine who are the sensible folk and who are the fools.
The fact that work in and travel to the EU is more difficult following brexit is of very little, if any, importance to someone who favours nations over supranational groups. Equally, the fact that ever-closer ties between regions diminishes differences between those regions (as mentioned in the video about closer alignment with Spain) to the point that their distinctive cultures and traditions are destroyed is hardly a problem for someone who'd rather do away with nations.
@@Boris-k7g The 180-day rule had been in place long before Brexit, a rule the UK helped to make while still in the EU for third countries. You the UK and you alone chose to become a third country.
This is exactly the sort of situation the EU was created to prevent, but unfortunately the UK never understood this...
Not all of us a lot saw this coming
No, no, it wasn't
total rubbish
Brexit was voted for because of unbridled mass immigration. That got the UK out of the EU but the idiot politicians totally missed the point, so the UK lost EU membership but ended up keeping the utterly ridiculous replacement level mass immigration. I think every PM since and including Blair has been just a Scrot-head, with not an ounce of compassion between them for the citizens of the UK they are supposed to represent.
Jog on Muppet @@andrewdavies8954
How about Gibraltar introducing UK levels of income tax, VAT, Duty etc. I'm sure since they are such patriotic Brits they will insist that they pay the exact same taxes as someone in Glasgow or London.
What sense would 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 make? Our situation does not warrant making ourselves uncompetetive just to satisfy anyone else for no good reason.
The people of Gibraltar voted to remain in the EU.
@@rpitaluga4343 but you want to be British, right? The people of the UK pay Vat and duty. Why should the EU tolerate a duty free shop having free and easy access to the EU? Please explain that.
@@greattobeadub he cannot. It's a good have it all situation. Just that.
@@greattobeadub Gibraltar is not part of the UK. It is a British Overseas Territory (BOT) and they do not use Brirish currency, so check out the coins and notes from Gibraltar, etc.
The British, or rather the English, have not yet realised two things. The first is that they are no longer an Empire, but they should not despair, because this is a process that takes a long time. In Spain, after several centuries, there are still people who have not realised that the Spanish Empire no longer exists. The second thing is that they must understand that when you leave a club, you cannot continue enjoying the privileges you had when you were a member. Gibraltar only has two options: either an external border at the port and at the airport, with Gibraltarian and Spanish police, or an external border on land. In this case, crossing that land border would be like crossing the border of a third country into an EU member country. Time is running out. Spain will be forced by European regulations to establish a hard border on land if an agreement is not reached on the control of access to Gibraltar by air or sea. Neither the EU nor Spain can allow access to the Schengen area to be in the hands of a non-EU country. On the other hand, I believe that most Spaniards know that the destiny of Gibraltar depends on the will of the Gibraltarians and as long as they want to remain British, Gibraltar will be British, but the Gibraltarians must also know that one cannot want to have the advantages of being British and of being Spanish.
'one cannot want to have the advantages of being British and of being Spanish'... that's exactly the point: some Gibraltarians (too many) are a perfect example of cakeism, they want to be British in some aspects, Spanish in others, European in others, and finally apatrids when it comes to taxing, gambling, money laundering, smuggling...
They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Hmmm no Gibralatarian was asked just after August 4th 1704... The willings are overvalued sometimes. You forget another option: GBR-ESP co-sovereignity and bi-nationality.
Excellent point of view, Sir. There are still some people in Spain dreaming about entering Gibraltar with the flag and tanks, and everything, but most of us don't give a damn about Gibraltar. Sadly, and specially after Brexit, I think there are a good bunch of British (English, mainly) that are thinking about the British Empire, and Britannia Ruling Over The Waves and all the stuff. Please, assume it: the Empire is gone, and Gibraltar will be gone, mainly because Brexit, and for that reason, they vote 96% remain. They know that an isolated Gibraltar is unsustainable nowadays, they even lack of a Health Service or telephone lines without Spain. Even the last three Principal Ministers lived in Spain. It would be a more realistic view to prepare any kind of agreement with Spain, and be sure that if UK ask again re-enter into the UE it will be very hard: Gibraltar, sterling pound, etc. and no more British Check.
The headline is not quite right - it should read Brexit’s problem is getting worse.
All a nasty surprise to the decaying pensioners nostalgic for the days the map was colored pink and jonny foreigner knew his place.
I'd say this before, and I'll say it again: The UK is the only country in the world to voluntarily impose sanctions on itself
Gibraltar is on the UN list of territories waiting to be decolonized. If UK ever thinks about joining EU again Spain will for sure us Gibraltar as a bargaining chip to give consent to allow UK to start an accession process into EU. It would not be the first time a border issue stops the accession process. That happened to Croatia when it was in the process of joining.
And Spain wouldn't be alone. Remember Akrotiri and Dhekelia in Cyprus...
Like Spain has Melilla and Ceuta?
@@bananayummyable Morocco is not part of EU and they will never be.
You know, that is a very good point. I initially thought that Brexit would benefit Britain, but reality has demonstrated otherwise. Britain is now too small to function well on it's own and the Americans have not offered them any favorable trade deals. Primarily because, unfortunately, Brits don't manufacture much anymore. Britain needs to get back in the EU. But the next go around will be a hard bargain, and its going to be the French, not the Spanish with the widest grins on their smug faces.
@stefanz9929 Brits deserve what they voted for. They are now on their way to becoming the first country to be deindustrialized. That is from First World to Third World country. Thanks Brexiteers!
Hard border. UK wanted out then let them be out.
Brexit means Brexit folks. You don't get to complain about open borders and then cry foul when the alliance you left closes the border on you.
I was in Gibraltar last week, they will never want to join Spain, though the current situation can't continue! The leave campaign have a lot to answer for!
@@roccosilverstar Did Gibraltarians vote in the Brexit referendum, and if so what were the results there?
@@xaverlustig3581 They voted 96% to remain, I am Scottish, we voted 62% remain.
@@roccosilverstar thank you
@@Buckets1000 Falkland Islands were never in the EU anyway.
15k is a small town anywhere in Europe. In a nation of several tens of millions, it is a drop in the ocean.
And far more British live just outside in southern Spain
But, the peninsular is at a strategically important location. This strategic value exists with or without the people of Gibraltar.
That said, the UK 'government' has a recently demonstrated capacity for bone-headed incompetence regarding such issues (speaking in the most generous and positive tone I can manage of course)
@@ianc8054 Not really, it was long time ago, nowadays you can control the strait from other places. Actually, the Royal Navy uses mainly the near Rota Base, in Cadiz, because it's a NATO base, better than Gibraltar, that has a really tiny harbour. Some time ago, it's said that USA support British position on Gibraltar because they don't want both sides of the strait being in Spanish hands, ansd it's probably true.
@@alfonsoherguetagomez1821 Better to own a base than rent a base from another (not necessarily eternally allied country).
GB made a sovereign decision to leave the EU, as is their prerogative. However, there are consequences to decisions. So live with it.
Spoken like a true INCEL!
Gibraltar was a British territory a long time before the EU came into being.
@@martinh4982 Not sure what that has to do with anything.
@@ArunLal-d6s it means that leaving the EU has very little to do with it. Spain hopes that it can use the EU to get what it wants, but as we all know the only country the EU listens to is Germany.
@@ArunLal-d6s it basically means this has nothing to do with the EU and is about as relevant a discussion as the dissagreement over the Falkland Islands
Spain made the decision to give it to us, it is the spanish who will have to deal with it
Gibraltar and its residents wish to remain British ....that is the end of the discussion
If I was the representative of Spain for this negotiations I would just seat and wait. Spain has literally nothing to lose by just letting a hard border be set up around Gibraltar.
And that's what Spain is doing, so yep lol
Yep try to starve a population into submission. That sounds very humane and democratic (a founding principle of the EU, not of sPain)
We’ll ignore that it failed last time spain tried it when we were much less developed, self sufficient and technologically undeveloped.
@@-Malvez- ok, honey, you keep doing your tantrum. But do not forget that the government of Spain should care about the Spanish population. Are Gibraltarians Spanish? No? So why should the government of Spain care? They should not.
Besides, it is not as if there is a siege on Gibraltar. You can sail to Morocco and do your groceries there.
@ that was exactly my point omegalul that your government doesn’t care about the people of the south.And thank you for acknowledging that we’re not Spanish ;)
@@-Malvez- So, why are you bothered then?
You do not even mention the strategic nuclear submarine base discreetly tucked away underwater in Gibraltar.
The importance of Gibraltar to the Spanish economy has been grossly exaggerated for years by English speakers. Spain now has a $2.5 trillion dollar economy and to it, Gibraltar is a drop in the ocean. That compares with Gibraltar's economy of less than $2 billion per annum. A loss of Gibraltar from Spain's view wouldn't barely be felt.
Tell that to the Campo area, thousands rely on Gibraltar for work because their own government has failed them. The importance of Gibraltar isn't massive to Spain's economy, but it's massive to the economy of the campo
@@jonathanrapley147 Yes, I do agree that the government has failed the Campo area. This is a great opportunity to force the government to act and and invest in the area so its not dependent on the other side of the border. I'm hoping for a hard border.
@@jonathanrapley147
You are incorrect there. The amount of employment Gibraltar gives a few people is minuscule . Besides, those are not well paying jobs, and its easy for the locals to take other Jobs. Gibraltar is not as wealthy as many English speakers makes it out to be. Again, Gibraltar has an annual GDP economy smaller than most large Spanish multi national corporations. You are making hay over peanuts, economically speaking.
@stefanz6502 estás halucinando? It's super fake, comparing Gibraltars economic output to that of Spain. That first. Second is that the Campo relies on jobs created in Gibraltar. That they are not necessarily high-paying jobs? Sure, but then where in Spain are they creating high-paying jobs. The truth is that Spaniards of surrounding area rely on these jobs, for better or worse. Spanish/andaluz authorities have not been able to create an industry whatsoever and even less create a job market that pays even a decent salary. Mind-blowing.
Gibraltar can’t replace these workers but the area around it can reabsorb these people as the Spanish side is a great port area with Gibraltar acting as a breakwater the only reason Spain hasn’t done more they didn’t need to as the Brits did the investments for them
"Get all borders closed!"
borders close
"Wait. what are you doing?"
Interesting for the brits to have an offshore colony, whose people pay little or no taxes that make dumping to the surronding area, made of Genoese people brought there, and no Britons, which are 30.000 privileged people that only want to keep those privileges, and all that after having rendered millions of ordinary people to a comunist regime in Hong Kong.
Hong Kong was a very different situation. It was a 99 year lease. When the lease ran out the owner moved back in.
@@miguellatre you fool, gibraltarians pay high taxes. They also employ 15000 people living in spain because madrid have no work for them. Gibraltarians spend hundreds of thousands of pounds in la linea on day trips every year. Without that these shops would struggle. If spain closes the border then 15000 people will be out of work. Their families and shops in la linea would struggle. Madrid wouldnt care about them. Funny how people who dont live in the area always comment how gibraltar would struggle without mentioning what i have said. Maybe people who comment should ask these workers, business leaders and unions in la linea what they think. They have already told the madrid government about the disaster for them if spain closes the border
@@tuberroot1112It isn't true! Only new territories were rented. The bulk of the colony, Hong Kong Island and Kowloon peninsula were of British ownership, and were surrended to the comunists while in Gibraltar, a money loundry, tobacco smuggling place, tax haven and pirates nest, Britons try to justify it despite of these are privileged people brought there from Genoa and north Africa.
You’re slow if you think we pay no taxes 😂 we pay out our asses in taxes you doughnut
@@tuberroot1112 NO. The lease was not Hong Kong, but the so-called "New Territories". The problem was, if you give them back to China, without the New Territories Honk Kong would became unsustenaible. It would be very fast, because there are 4 million people there, but, actually, it's a not-so-different situation. The difference is that Spain is not a corrupt dictatorial country, where you drop your citizens, and you can make some arrangement for the future, something good for both parts
If Spain really pushes it, Gibraltar would be in a weaker position.
Spain could simply close the border and cut all kind of lines: roads, ferries, telecommunications, water, energy, ... . It would simply have to tell its citizens "Get yourself a job in Spain." The question is what kind of treaties there are that have to be respected.
I, as the Spanish PM, would have locked them out since long. Gibraltar would have been depopulated for 90% in a few weeks or months, but I am sure the Brits would have brought more military personnel to the rock just to hold it. But that would be terribly costly for them.
"it's a price worth paying for" would be the headlines in the nationalistic UK press.
Spain did exactly that decades ago and it didn’t work in the slightest.
What makes you, an outsider, so confident that it would work again.
The reason us Gibraltarians are so adamantly anti Spanish government and pro Britain is due to the bully tactics that you have expertly come up with.
Roads, we have our own ;) ferries, we can establish our own, telecommunications, we run our own, water, we produce our own, energy, we produce our own.
I suppose I must be part of the 10% that will remain.
@@ab-ym3bfit’s nationalistic to defend yourself against imperialists trying to conquer land they have no claim to?
@@Robespierre-lI agreed. Had franco and his Falangists not tried to starve us out we would likely be Spanish today.
The loss of Spanish as the dominant language only happened because of their actions to bully us into submission. My parents and grandparents and their generation used to and still do use Spanish as their dominant language but taught their kids to speak English due to the new identity born from the actions of the Spanish government.
@@-Malvez-still you lost. Stop crying foul while the UK decided to leave the European Union yet demands so much.
The problem with bullies is that they only understand strength. China only recovered territories lost to the UK after the power imbalance shifted in their favor 🤔. They are not going to do what's right out of the goodness of their hearts... Only by closing access to non-schengen countries to the Schengen area will the few people in Gibraltar understand their new situation. Only by taking the strongest possible positions against collaboration with the UK will this former Spanish territory go back to them.
Different situation.
Hong Kong was leased by the British and with a specific end date.
There is no lease on Gibraltar.
@@geofflepper3207 It`s funny how some people use the treaty of Utrecht for some things, but not for others, because, if we are going to adhere to the treaty, you should know that Gibraltar has no sovereign waters, and their airport is partially in spanish land.......so what will be, Utrecht or not?
(It also states that if GB ever gives up Gibraltar, it reverts to Spain, regardless of what its population thinks about it........)
It was Fabian Picardo who said the two sides were within kissing distance NOT the Spanish foreign minister. You got that wrong.
@@geofflepper3207 What about the no-lease Macao?
Gibraltar is Not the only closest point from Europe to Africa there other points on the Spanish peninsula that are just close and strategic as Gibraltar. No exageres tanto.
England will eventually need to give Gibraltar to Spain as a pre-requisite for agreeing to admit them back in the EU (as one of the votes). The English are very slow in comprehending anything beyond the idea of a ‘single-market.’ None of them have a clue on what they’ll be giving up. It’s not in their mindset - yet.
unlikely to ever happen. When the Brits left the EU they also gave up all of their exemptions and opt outs; even if the EU agreed to readmit the UK it would require submission to all EU policies-Schengen, single currency, CAP etc. There is no way any British public could stomach that, so Britain is destined to be a pimple on the ass of Europe forever.
Considering you refer to England when you mean BRITAIN (no they are not the same thing) you will forgive me if i find your opinion just as ignorant
We comprehend FULLY, it is you that dosnt comprehend our reasons why
GiB can't be given to Spain read the treaty of Utrecht 1713 .👊👍
@TonySpike
English is a colloquial way to refer to the British. Same way Holland = Netherlands and America = USA
@@TonySpikeyes we understand indeed that brexit has well and truly fucked us over.
Theres no "hatred" between Britain and Spain! Britain and Spain are still allies, and the Spanish even pushed the EU to give the UK special rights when it comes to migration (Young Spaniards move to Britain for work and older Brits move to Spain to retire) it was a mutually beneficial arrangement
Not anymore 😂😂😂😂
That,s over with brexit
No, eff off little briths. Sincerely, Spain.
I lived in Gibraltar for two and a half years, with a hard border, it was not a problem.
Passport checks were rapid in both directions, 15,000 people per day used to cross, in both directions.
Only when Harold Wilson, another Labour Fool, ''upset the apple cart'' did it become a problem.
Once he was gone things reverted to normal again.
Britain signed the treaty of Utrecht, and has abused it ever since.
The original purpose for Britain occupying Gibraltar has long expired, *so it should be returned to Spain, as per the Utrecht treaty.*
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Nah, Gibraltar is full of people that don`t want to be Spanish. We have already enough of that.
All we are asking is that they stop beeing a nuisance, agree the shared use of the airport, come to an agreement over the disputed waters, and stop beeing a tax heaven and a save haven for smugglers........I think it`s not unreasonable......and in return, we will not opose it`s integration in the Shengen-space, while still beeing under british sovereignty.
In my opinion, it`s a hell of a deal! Indeed, it`s the best they can hope for......
The Great Britain still fell apart and became a Small Britain
As a Spainard, I have a question. How's the situation about Olivenza / Olivença (Territorial Question of sovereignty between Portugal and Spain)?
It is clear who your bias is for. The original treaty in which Gibraltar was ceded to the UK only refers to the rock as the land being ceded, no land further north nor any territorial waters. The UK has since then moved the border up taking advantage of the fact that we were at war somewhere else, has reclaimed land from the sea (Gibraltar doesn't have any territorial waters so it was stolen from Spain), has built a damn airport runway on the stretch of land illegally occupied and by reclaiming even more land from Spain, and has developed a huge fishing harbor (once again by reclaiming spanish water) that steals the fish from Spanish fishermen (again, those are spanish waters). Even the United Nations has categorized Gibraltar as the last colony in Europe.
Ceuta and Melilla don’t matter?
Spain should apply the original treaty to the letter and reclaim it's land and sea
@@conchscooter Nope they don't matter, they're not British.
So why does the voice of the UN trump the voice of those living there? The UN who have never visited us, the UN who has never asked our opinion
And before you say it, no we are not colonists from the UK. My family is Spanish and Italian yet still proudly British ;)
Gibraltar is nothing other than a non-self-governing territory, subject to the process of decolonisation, in two words: a colony. It was included on the UN list of territories to be decolonised in 1963 and has remained there ever since. Since that year, therefore, the UN Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples, the so-called Committee of 24, has included it among the territories within its competence. In 1964 this Committee reached a consensus on the situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territory of Gibraltar urging the United Kingdom and Spain to begin talks without delay in order to find a negotiated solution. The following year the General Assembly endorsed the terms of the consensus and invited both nations to begin such talks. Year after year the UN has maintained this mandate to the two states, which therefore remains in full force and effect. It is also worth noting that the UN calls for decolonisation in accordance with the principle of territorial integrity and not by virtue of any supposed right of self-determination of a hypothetical Gibraltarian ‘people’ (indeed, in 1967 it condemned the referendum held in Gibraltar). It does state that the interests of the people of Gibraltar must be heard. They have an excellent channel for that: the British Government. negotiations on sovereignty are a matter for London and Madrid alone. In short, for the UN what we have is a colonial situation that must be brought to an end. Disputes between countries must be resolved in accordance with international law, not on the basis of the proclaimed will of a people. The British have always abused our good faith and our moments of weakness. Spain voluntarily established a neutral zone, while maintaining its exclusive sovereignty. In 1815, for humanitarian reasons and because of a yellow fever epidemic, the British were authorised to use it temporarily to build a sanitary camp, but this zone was never returned. The airport was built in 1938, in the middle of the Spanish Civil War, on the usurped isthmus, under the misleading name of ‘emergency landing strip’, later converted into an aerodrome, airport and finally, an air base. The fence had to be opened in 1986 because of the risk of the British exercising their veto on Spain's entry into the EU.
@@ahones2255 Spanish good faith do me a favour when has Spain had good faith it’s full of self absorbed and I won’t I won’t and it’s not fare nothing but a lot of moaners you lost Gibraltar fare and square I don’t understand why they just don’t concentrate on all the problems and constant problems they have within there own country they only won’t Gibraltar because we’re prosperous unfortunately, they’re full of jealousy and hatred because they can’t manage there own country and own people correctly bless um 😆I feel sorry for them
Well now you can veto their return 😂
@@Bran9, yes
Dear ahones, congratulations to you, This is a great comment and I have checked the details, you are right. Your slight personal opinions are clearly separated from the facts, this makes it all highly transparent.
Let the British enjoy their Empire and some UK expats can still enjoy their non Gibraltarian Spain.
@@godehardbrysch7905I think I would use another app other than google translate you puppet 😂😂
Correction; Gibraltar isn’t in the United Kingdom, it is a British overseas territory. Big difference.
No difference
@@lollymannaerr..it is
@@rjhammond00
Explain
@@lollymanna parliamentary representation
Dude, you cannot talk about the history of Gibraltar and go all the way back to the War of Spanish Succession but then forget the airport, Gibraltar's special status in the EU that London got from Madrid or the current cross-border economic issues.
If Gibraltarians want to enjoy the rights of being in the EU, then secede from the UK and join Spain. Otherwise, stay British and be miserable.
Well said, it's as simple as that.
Brutal, but makes sense
Obviously it is great to be british then. an independent Gibraltar can join the EU
(like Malta). No need for joining spain.
@@willempasterkamp862 It's not that simple. If the UK gives up its sovereignty over Gibraltar, it automatically reverts to Spain. If Gibraltar wants its independence, it probably has to become Spanish first and then petition Spain for independence.
@@lellyparker If EU and UK can make a deal over northern ireland the same can be done with Gibraltar. Depends on willingness or unwillingness of both sides, UK will not bend to territorial claims.
Brexit was not well thought out.
I have to grudgingly admit Brexit was mistake. There is now enough data to prove that the British economy was damaged by Brexit. I hope nobody in Spain celebrates the troubles in Britain because it is still the 2nd largest economy along with France in Western Europe. If the Brits collapse, it hurts everyone in the EU, including Spain. The way I see, the Brits were economically sabotaged by their own upper classes.
There is a special place in hell.....
Maybe not in detail, but right in the principle.
@@jiritichy7967. How silly are you?
@@jonaswladimir6889 Here you showed how smart you are.
Unfortunately the video got the name of the other EU country the UK shares a border with wrong. Ireland is the name of the country, Republic of Ireland is the name of the football team. Irish cars have the letters IRL in the blue rectangle on the registration plate, not ROI, additionally you won't find the words Republic of Ireland anywhere in an Irish passport. The name of the country registered in the United Nations is Ireland and Article 4 of the Irish Constitution states the name of the State is "Ireland".... why do so many UA-cam videos get this wrong?
Give Gibraltar back to Spain and the problem is solved.
The people will have to decide
It could all blow over with a deal. However, tensions have risen while this has been in production. First, according to the Spectator, the UK "is preparing to lodge a formal complaint with Spain over Gibraltar. Spanish military aircraft have twice flown over the Rock in the past ten days."
Second, Spanish Foreign Minister Albares has publicly pressured the UK to agree a deal before the EU implements new fingerprint and facial scans at Schengen borders. Reuters quotes him as saying: ""It's time for the United Kingdom to say yes to a balanced and generous agreement that we have put on the table a long time ago."
Finally, the UK Government announced it was transferring sovereignty of Indian Ocean Territory Chagos Islands to Mauritius. forcing Prime Minister Starmer to assert that it wasn't the start of a larger effort to give back other overseas holdings, like the Falklands and Gibraltar.
If you were to tell the story of the rock you should tell all of it. Not only the Great Siege. But also the terms of the peace that gave Gibraltar to UK, wich explicitly does not inclue the territorial waters. Also the siezing of further land in the isthmus building an airport well pass the agreed border for 200 years.
Gibrarltar is soverign UK territory, I can assure that, but there are a lot of controversies like the airport on spanish land not ceded to the UK, and the territorial claims of the water around the rock, in wich oil tankers refuel on sea, sometimes causing oil spills that end up in spanish beaches affecting their wildlife and tourism while oiltanker-refuiling on shore is forbidden in spanish territorial waters for that same reason
The fly by was in accordance with Freedom of movement
@@Dani-Nani You forgot about the repairs of nuclear submarines in the rock that does not have facilities or security measures to carry them out there.
The bottom line is that Brexit puts a hard border between Gibraltar and Spain and if the UK wants to change that then it has to cut a deal. Spain offered the UK a deal they turned it down. Simple. Welcome to capitalism. None of this has anything to do with Gibraltar's sovereignty or what happened with Chagos Islands. It is the same old problem of the British Government being unwilling to face the consequences for Brexit and blaming everyone else for it.
Optimism with Starmer policies? No way, we learned the lesson. Also because what is Starmer actually saying?:
UK: “We have to strengthen our relations with the EU”
EU: “Ok, go on, what are your ideas about it”
UK: “That we have to strengthen our relations with the EU”
EU: “Ok but how?”
UK: “Strengthening our relations with the EU”
EU: “OMG”
This is just like the old sh*t “Brexit is Brexit”, UK won’t see anything coming from the EU, we’re ok with the situation right now, it’s your turn. Eventually, you know, “UK holds all the cards” and “EU needs UK more than UK needs EU” so it won’t be so difficult, right?
As a Spaniard it is paramount to mention that Gibraltar is a colony on Spanish soil. There should be no colonies in the XXIst century
Spain has colonies, Canary Islands, Ceuta, Melilla, internally some in Catalonia are not happy being part of Spain. lots of countries have overseas territories, it’s not as easy as just saying there shouldn’t be any.
@@davidshaw952
Are you serious? Not a single country on Earth labels them as colonies. Spain has no overseas territories, each of those has been part of Spain for longer than 500 years and those people have the exact same rights as the rest of Spaniards. Gibraltar IS a colony according to the UN.
@@aramvillar3252 F ... the UN, only gibralter population can decide what they themsellves are.
@@aramvillar3252 What about Ceuta and Melilla? Those are Spanish overseas colonies. Not to mention Catalonia, which was occupied by the Spaniards also in the context of the Spanish Succession War some 300 years ago.
What about Ceuta and Melilla which are both located within/next to Morocco (depending on one’s point of view)? Aren’t these Spanish overseas territories?
Why doesn't Gibraltar declare independence? It would make a whole lot of practical sense; for them to subsequently join the EU since they did vote 90% to remain.
I suspect that this is more difficult than it seems. IIRC the Treaty giving Gibraltar to the UK stipulates that if the UK gives up its sovereignty over Gibraltar, then sovereignty automatically reverts to Spain. So to become independent, it may be that Gibraltar would have to return to being Spainish first and then petition the Spanish government.
the right of self-determination.
Just like why Scotland should do the same (it did in 2014?) or NI being part of (the Republic of) Ireland.
@@willempasterkamp862
The inhabitants of Gibraltar are colonizers.
The native population was expelled and founded the city of San Roque.
If anyone should vote on decolonization, I do not think it will be the settlers who occupied the territory, but rather the descendants of the expelled population.
@@fedevida1951 Natives were iberian celts and before them some neanderthals. Latino's from latium were the most brutal
invaders ever.
"Hatred between Britain and Spain" mild annoyance more like. Come on man stop inventing drama.
No one is talking about the fact that we are on an island, meaning that trading with the UK is already naturally harder than those with land borders. Now we faced more paperwork and wait times, and even sending goods to NI can require customs checks as NI is part of the UK and (at least partially) in the EU customs union. This is done to prevent border checks with Ireland, an EU state.
We also now continue to recognise the CE logo seen in toys and electrical goods (for example), which the UKCA logo intended to replace. The CE/UKCA deadline has been extended multiple times (originally 31 December 2021) before the permanent extension in August 2023.
If my age of civ playthroughs are any indication, there's a 60% chance Gibraltar randomly forms a union with Malta (idk why that tends to happen in that game lmao). Seriously though, interesting update on the situation!
Hard border, or reunited to it's rightful owner...
Give back Gibraltar to Spain. Fee to cross the border from Gibraltar to Spain for non Europeans (UK passport holders) £50 on way.
Make it an even 100 Sweet Euros and I will support your idea. )))
As a Brit I found your video to be very informative. Thank you. I moved to the EU after the vote and said then that Gibraltar would kick off again. The lies told by the political prostitutes in England were outrageous. Shame on them. I have now subscribed to your channel. Again, thank you. All the best.
As a British Gibraltarian and I think I speak for many other fellow Gibraltarians we all feel let down by subsequent UK Governments that have left us completely at the mercy of Spain and the EU with Brexit.
I'm not sure why British history ever gave you any faith in the UK. I'm English and I don't trust British governments in the slightest. Our politics is toxic and corrupted by money interests and a bought and paid for press.
Gibraltar or rather The Gibraltarians don't figure in the English mind for consideration.
It only figures as a conquest to massage the ego and jingoistic feelings of the Tory right and the extreme right.
Gibraltar wasn't even discussed in the pre-Brexit referendum.
The Chagos stich up shows how much the inhabitants mattered.
@@CarlosRomero-u6h In what way was Chagos a stitch up? The UK was taken to court under International Law and lost.
@@lellyparker The stich up is the Chagossians were never consulted in the 1960's or now.
Brits don't get the luxury of picking and choosing over the pieces of the carcass they created. But it's very elitist for them to try. Spain should regain control as a cost of Brexit. Decisions come with costs and consequences. Case closed.
Why, Gibraltar was British before Britain even joined the EU.
@@xaverlustig3581 Gibraltar was stolen from Spain in 1704. Just like Northern Ireland, geography plays a role in Brexit. Brits put themselves into this situation and they need to pay the price for their stupidity.
@@rafaelm.2056Could use similar arguments for Melilla and Ceuta though. Spain doesn't really have a leg to stand on in this context.
@@rafaelm.2056 Colonialism was about stealing land, but how exactly is Spain different? :) Gibraltar and Ceuta/Melilla are exact mirror images of each other. If you think it's wrong for a European country to keep remnants of its colonial past, fair enough, Britain hands Gibraltar to Spain and Spain hands Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco. If you think keeping bits of the old colonial empire is fine, also fair enough, each side keeps theirs. But you don't get to pick.
[Edit] Brexit is irrelevant for the issue of who owns what territory.
Indeed: there are dozens of places like this all over Europe, and that's one reason the EU was created. Unfortunately, the UK never seems to have understood this, so now it has to deal with the consequences.
I think "hate" is a litlle bit harsh.....annoyance would be more precise........also, it is not as we have a choice......we MUST apllie EU laws in our country (mostly because, as a part of the EU,we contribute in the making of these laws), so , either Gibraltar takes the necesary steps to integrate into theShengen space......, or it will be a third party, and treated acordingly.
Sorry, no cherrypicking.......... You can be in, or out, but not both.......
What kind of deluded view is that that 99% of Brexit issues are resolved at this point?
Most issues are resolved though. The last few things will be enacted over the next few years still. But most things are done now.
UK, leave... give it to spain and leave.
UK should end its occupation of Spanish territory.
Where are you from
@@mitchlewis8260not from turd Island that's for sure
@@mitchlewis8260 Netherlands
Should the Spanish end there occupation of territory in Morocco?
@@andreschuurman1053 yes of course
England shot itself in a foot big time
Spain ceded Gibraltar to the UK as part of a broader peace settlement, but it wasn’t specifically in exchange for help from the UK. The cession was a direct consequence of the War of Spanish Succession (1701-1714) and its resolution through the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. Here’s a clearer breakdown of how this unfolded:
1. War of Spanish Succession:
• The war erupted after the death of the Spanish king, Charles II, who died without an heir in 1700. This left a power vacuum in Europe, as different factions wanted to control the Spanish throne.
• The main contenders were the French-backed Philip of Anjou (who would become Philip V of Spain) and the Austrian Archduke Charles.
• Britain, along with its allies (including the Dutch Republic and Austria), supported Archduke Charles, fearing that a French-controlled Spain would disrupt the balance of power in Europe.
• As part of the war effort, a joint Anglo-Dutch fleet captured Gibraltar from Spain in 1704, seizing it on behalf of Archduke Charles.
2. Treaty of Utrecht (1713):
• By 1713, the war was exhausting for all parties, and peace negotiations began.
• The Treaty of Utrecht was a series of agreements between the warring nations. Under the treaty:
• Philip V was recognized as the legitimate king of Spain, but Spain lost several key territories.
• As a term of the treaty, Spain ceded Gibraltar “in perpetuity” to Britain, along with the island of Minorca (although Minorca was later returned to Spain).
• The treaty was not about direct military aid but rather settling territorial claims and ending the long, costly conflict.
3. Why Did Spain Cede Gibraltar?:
• By 1713, Spain was in a weak position. It had suffered military defeats and was negotiating to preserve its monarchy and overall territorial integrity.
• Britain, having captured Gibraltar and considering it a key naval stronghold, insisted on keeping it as a bargaining chip in the treaty. Spain ceded it in exchange for broader peace and stability under the new Bourbon dynasty.
4. Gibraltar’s Importance to the UK:
• Gibraltar’s strategic location at the entrance to the Mediterranean made it highly valuable to Britain as a naval base.
• The UK gained control over an important maritime route, giving it influence over naval operations in both the Mediterranean and the Atlantic.
Conclusion:
While Spain did not cede Gibraltar in exchange for direct help from Britain, it was part of the broader peace settlement at the end of the War of Spanish Succession. Spain conceded the territory as part of a compromise to end the war and secure recognition of its new Bourbon monarchy, in return for stability across Europe. The UK kept Gibraltar because of its military and strategic importance.
It was the retribution to betray the Catalans that were still resisting the Bourbons in Barcelona. Britain's ships abandoned Barcelona which allowed Bourbon troops the deadly 1 year long siege a final defeat in 1714. (Commanded by the Duke of Berwik, fighting with the French, a rare sight...)
A Catalan proposal to be part of the British empire as the rest of the English controlled remaining lands, (Gibraltar and Minorca), arrived a couple of days late of the Treaty of Utrech to the parlament, and could really have changed history. The English thought Barcelona had already fallen as sieges barely took months in the XVIII century and they had no news.
Yes spot on, the video is very pro-EU and forgot real history. Borders like this exists in many places like Andorra and Lichtenstein. This "hard" border is all about politics and most people in the comments here don't realise that
@@is_42 I completely agree. It’s unfortunate that since the Brexit referendum, the EU hasn’t fully respected that this was a democratic decision. A fundamental principle of democracy is honoring the will of the people, and in this case, the referendum was conducted lawfully and fairly. Respecting that outcome is vital for upholding democratic values. Furthermore, the ongoing hostility from Spain over Gibraltar and France’s handling of illegal immigration only reinforces the British public’s belief that EU membership was a way for European nations to exert control and extract as much money from Britain as possible.
It was taken by the Brits . Theres nothing else to say.
The French negotiated the treaty and had no option but to cede the territory as Britain refused to vacate it unlike the other nationalities which took part in the occupation. This was clearly the intention of the English from the beginning as Admiral Rooke had previously attempted to gain a foothold in the Mediterranean as was familiar with the area.
The surrender of the Fort was taken on terms and on behalf of Carlos III pretender to the crown of Spain.
The occupation was pure and simple an opportunistic act and Spain is never going to relinquish its territorial integrity.
I was in Gibraltar in mid November. It was easy to go back-and-forth between Spain and Gibraltar. There was in fact, a tangible sense of tension between the two countries they were cordial to me because I was an American the English. I talk to were very clear that Spain will never get Gibraltar back.
Curiously the strategic part more close to Africa is in Spain in Tarifa no in Gibfaltar lol
A well considered presentation of the history and potential future of Gibraltar. I reckon that the the current temporary arrangement to keep the border as frictionless as possible is going to have to last a very long time as it is impossible to achieve this within a "permanent" agreement to which all sides can agree.
There was no problem here till Brexit, but of course Johnson and his cronies hadn’t considered the consequences.
Yes there have always been problems between Spain and England becouse of Gibraltar...
From day one Spain refused to lose that small part of it's TERRITORY...
Which IS normal...
Isn't It ?...
Remember farage in the eu parliament.. the uk should stop whining.
Close the border.
What is the stock song used from at @7:00?
Sunak would have given it to India or his wife
Nahi zandaki 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🫣 😢😂thanks ,your comment brought us joy & laughter.
Brexit: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
10:50 👮 [Hard] border checks always existed when crossing the English Channel as 🇬🇧 Britain was not part of the 🇪🇺 Schengen area requiring no checks at borders 🤔
Those checks did not apply to movements of goods, provision of services and capital with freedom of movement. The UK was until 2020 in the EU’s single market and customs union. As with Northern Ireland, Brexit has exposed contradictions between sovereignty with borders and access to the benefits of the EU’s four freedoms. It cannot be made to work.
Yeah, but the checks are much more annoying when one have to be checked for muggling. Every Day. Twice.
Is not that bad, Catalan people working in Andorra does this every day and doesn't seem to have much of a problem... It depends on how hard/frequently check.
@@ilokivi Apart from everyone being passport/ID controlled crossing the UK border pre-Brexit, customs checks also existed on those trying to import goods over the limit for personal consumption 🤔
The solution is FAR easier: return the rock to Spain. That will erase the hard border (and the border itself). The British Empire is long dead, there’s no point in keepig it any longer.
Also, the airport and the extension of the port violates the Utretch treaty: they only had rights to the rock, not to the istmus nor the waters. A violation like that would result in a forced return back in the 1700s. Why not now?
NO in the Utrecht TREATY didn't hand in the whole of the Rock of Gibraltar....
But it's Town and small Port.
NO MUSLIMS or JEWS allowed to settle...
NO ships of theirs allowed to Dock....
NO contact what so ever with the rest of Spain...
Etc,etc...
NOT EVEN... ONE ...OF THE UTRECHT TREATY ARTICLES WERE EVER RESPECTED BY THE LONDON CROOKS..
England might just give up Gibraltar back to Spain. the brexit voters never thought of Gibraltar Northern Ireland just little England and if Scotland leaves the uk will be dead and England will be happy become a poor 3rd world north korea of Europe. The torys should ve all in jail and the party outlawed and uk should reconnect to the eu if it wants a future its only getting worse England water are getting more full of sewage which the torys supported in the eu the law would kick in and be putting cells in jail
The United Kingdom conquered a piece of Spain by military force in 1704, and has occupied it illegally ever since. It is a shame that it remains the only British colony in Europe. The United Kingdom has been and will always be a nest of pirates. But the glories of the Empire are now a thing of the past.
It was in the Spanish War of Succession
I remember arguing that brexit in Ireland and gibralter was impossible and could only end badly.
From Portugal the British should return to their island and leave Gibraltar to its true Iberian owners, instead of giving that island to Mauritius they should leave Gibraltar
From Britain, the Portugese should stay in their lane,
since your country was just as bad as ours (worse in fact) when it comes to colonising places, your critisism is about as valid as a pot calling out a kettle 🤣
@@TonySpike mate My country never colonized Europe, you who should leave the Iberian Peninsula are already late! In that case we will stay with Spain, our ethnic, cultural and religious brothers.
@@marcothebarber764 I am British , but one of your religious brothers . Brits arent all the same xenophobic little Englanders .
It would be nice to hear your opinion about Olivenza.... it's Portuguese territory waiting to be returned since the Viena treaty.
Spain can not have both! claim Gibratal from the UK, and pretend Olivenza is not Portuguese
@@luisPcordeiro Portugal We don't want Olivenza, we want Iberia for Iberians, free from foreign occupation!
Taken by fource, give it back!
Force*
I can see Spain introducing an entry/exit fee of say 30 euros if there's no treaty, for entering intoo Gib or Spain from Gib. and use the proceeds to subsidise the redundant 15,000 workers who would not be able to work in Gibraltar.
Call it a levelling up solidarity payment.
Make it an even 100 Sweet Mighty Euros. )))
Probably not , but we are not going to give anything for free either.@@paulhill2012
Hard border, no exception.
"99% of Brexit issues are resolved" ‽‽‽ lol 😂😂
Starmer was in Brussels last week trying to fix the many issues.
... trying to start to solve the first one 😂😂😂
@@astree214 And got his ass kicked as EU said come back when the TCA and all other agreements singed and ratified since brexit are fully implemented.
The issues have been resolved. The uk is now trying to change the already resolved issues..
As always when it comes to these matters, the British position is a silly one. They wanted hard borders.
Obviously, this is going to hurt Gibraltarians more than Spaniards. Losing a job in Gibraltar will be hard for Spaniards. But, having all the rest of their country to work in, they will find it easier to adapt.
So why haven’t they already adapted?
You clearly have no idea and no personal stake in the matter if you think it’s that simple.
For decades I have heard nothing but story after story about English speakers saying that the Spanish residents are desperate for the jobs in Gibraltar. But here is the deal, Spain has a $2.5 trillion dollar annual Purchase Power Parity GDP economy. Gibraltar has an economy of a measly $2 billion per annum. To Spain, that colony is just a drop in the ocean. Most of those Gibraltar jobs are not that well paying anyhow, and before English speakers arrogantly look down on Spain for being "poor", let me remind everyone that outside of the London area and a few parts of Scotland, the Midlands, Wales, and other area in the UK is now poorer than the most economically disadvantaged state in the USA, and that is the state of Mississippi. Its easy to look down and sneer at the poor. But when you too are poor, its called the pot calling the kettle black.
And what has that 2.5trillion done for the people of the campo de Gibraltar?
@@-Malvez-
You act like those arrogant Gibraltarians have anything of value to offer any person from Spain, but that is just not so more than ever. Get real guy.
@@stefanz9929 how about the minimum of 15,000 jobs that are created for the campo area that directly made for cross border workers in Gibraltar and all the dependents that live off that? Not to mention the tax benefits to the Spanish economy, the Spanish love their taxes 😍 (15k is just the official number, that’s not counting all the workers who come and aren’t documented)
How about the millions of € gibraltarians spend in the Spanish economy in restaurants, clubs, parks, shops etc?
How about the millions of people who travel through Spain each year to go to Gibraltar for tourism? Costs money to get down here.
How about the immense amount of charity work done by Gibraltarians constantly for Spanish people who are left behind by their government? Especially shown during the Valencia disaster.
You don’t give a shit about the Spanish people living in the south. We do.
@@-Malvez-
Again, those are not middleclass jobs. And given that Gibraltar has a puny economy smaller than a Spanish multinational corporation, they have nothing to brag about.
You are grossly overstating the economic influence of Gibraltar on Spain. Here in the USA, when an area gets economically depressed, people move elsewhere and find new jobs and life just moves on. I am sure its no different in Spain or other parts of Europe.
@ what a surprise, someone with no stake in the matter thinking they know it all 😂
Some are lower class and some are middle class, they are jobs nonetheless for people who have none. I don’t see why this is an issue or something to be ashamed as you perhaps seem to think.
You think it’s as easy as that for people to up and leave? Comedic. And leave to where? Unless they leave Spain their wages are better in Gibraltar than Spain.
Really good solution Mr USA, everyone should just leave and abandon their homes that their families have lived in for centuries 😂
Spain with the backing of the EU is holding all the good cards. Gibraltar is not a colony as the original inhabitants were chased out. It was a British base and attracted economic migrants and prostitutes who came to the rock to provide services to the base. These people came from Spain Portugal Italy Malta and Morocco. Ultimately the UK govt runs the show and Gibraltar can be considered similar to a small town in the UK. The CM is more akin to a mayor as he has no control over the army external affairs or even the police. These people have always been opportunistic and their loyalty to the UK is based on pure monetary issues and not for any real love for King or country.
Gibraltar runs her own police force 👍
A police officer in Gibraltar is paid much better than one in Spain or the UK
The UK and Spain had made an agreement that EU border and customs people could make checks at the port and airport but no Spanish people. After we left the EU cancelled that deal saying it had to be Spanish making the checks. a 5 year temporary deal was agreed while a long term agreement was made. That 5 year period has just ended with no agreement. On 9 October a Spanish police officer insisted all non eu passports must be stamped in and out, so Gibraltar did the same. Long queues built up, it seems there was no actual official commend for this and the Spanish backed down. Spain demands have been rejected by the Gibraltar people. Spain threatens a hard border or else. Gibraltar says fine close the border and find work for your 10,000 Spanish people who go to Gibraltar everyday. Franco shut the border in 1969. It was fully reopened in 1985 so that Spain could join the EU Franco had died 10 years earlier.
Talks between the EU and UK over Northern ireland customs etc were overall handled by Sefcovic and they also dragged on for years. Sefcovic is also overseeing these talks from thr EU side of things. Re NI talks VDL took charge and agreed a sensible solution.
I don´t think Spain will close te border, the local politicians will be out of a job quite soon.
The UK could always just give Gibraltar its independence. Then it would be no longer their problem.
No
@@Juan-garcia2025 Yes
@@Juan-garcia2025 Why not? The UK recently handed back the Chagos Islands to Mauritius (in this case it is a bit hard to give it its independence considering they forceable cleared the islands of all Chagossians between 1965 to 1973).
@@psidot Because of the treaty of utrecht, there is a clause of the agreement that in case of the UK trying to change the regime stablished, spain has the right to Undo the cesion of giblartar, so is british as long as it stays under the UK, granting them independence would violate this clause giving the right to Spain to recover gibraltar.
@@elduquedelaburrimiento6092 What's a treaty worth? You just draw up a new treaty where the people of Gibraltar decide what they want. And if Spain is not happy with the decision made, then they always have the option to invade and take it by force.
Time to leave, time to go, planters back to England like in future united Irlande
Have you told the Unionists yet? 😂
@@remoanersrknts6736 who ?
@@MHDebidour
Exactly! 😂
Reap what you sow.
Nothing wrong with brexit, it was just the mps that fkd it up.
@@1ForTheShieldz Brexit was a bad idea that appealed to the uninformed, xenphobes and bigots. Skilfully sold by a few operators some of whom made a lot of money as a result, but for the country as whole it's proving to be a dissater.
@CarlosRomero-u6h you are uninformed and clearly a racist anti British deluded individual keep crying and move along.
Bring in Cyprius and the UK base...........ulster all the same???...love from an Irishman in Valencia ..How is your passport???.....look at the history.? it was only a rock?? Now a sea-level airport plus shipping movements 1813?? LONDONderry.....Gibraltarv96 % remain in EU.....64 % Ulster REMIAN in where??
Gibraltar is Spain territory.
I dont care if Spain or Morroco has Gibraltar, as long as is NOT England im happy.
Who would want that shit hole?
@@Tas17.4 its an strategic point.
@@Tas17.4you mean apart from the Spaniards who’ve been trying to get it for decades 😂😂
What’s the name of the town you’re from, let’s compare some statistics.
If you read the Utrecht agreement well, the UK has the use of Gibraltar nowhere says anything about the sovereignty, however Spain doesn’t really care at all about the rock like the British do
Gibraltar español
Volveremos a empezar...
@@wired524 tomaremos Gibraltar!
Spanish army would get destroyed by the brittish army
@@brotherlestat305 Four riflemen of the 5th Battalion have just been jailed for selling 100k pounds worth of cocaine to their comrades and buying designer clothes with the dough, I wouldn't be so sure
Nunca serra ni asta el dia ke te mueras y soy llanito, no permito ke nos lo convierta a sloppy🇬🇮🇬🇧🇬🇮🇬🇧🇬🇮🇬🇧🇬🇮🇬🇧🇬🇮🇬🇧
A hard border in Ireland is history,it will never happen again.Ireland will be reunited again soon.
UK should give back their former territories. Just give this land to Spain, it is ridiculous to keep it yourself...
Gibraltar is yet another case of colonisation surviving to the present. Thus, our legitimacy in holding it is sketchy at best and it is probably only still around because of popular support within the colony.
Honestly, I think Gibraltar is more trouble than it's worth to keep and I'd prefer to return it to Spain. However, for as long as Spain occupies territory in Morocco they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to demanding the return of Gibraltar.
What territory does Spain occupy in Morocco?
If you are referring to Ceuta and Melilla, I indicate that those territories were handed over to the Visgoth Kingdom of Hypania in the 5th century after the fall of the Roman Empire... Morocco was founded in 1956
The UK reluctance to give up property be it Gibraltar or the Malvinas is sheer bloody-mindedness, entitlement and too bad for anyone else. Like claiming "freedom" for Hongkong now after having colonised it for years.
Give it back to Spain
Spain should just take it back lol what can the UK do, attack Spain/EU? Lmao😂
Spain is not strong enough against UK.
@@wsmithe2209 is the UK strong against the EU?
@@lollymannaso you think the entirety of the EU should team up to invade a peninsula of under 40,000 inhabitants in order to force them to join a foreign state they do not wish to join??
Sounding a lot like Mr Putin. Good to see your true colors ;)
Financial Services was not included in any of the Brexit agreement. Gibraltar is a UK problem. Brexit was forced on it and if it wishes to have an easy border with the EU then it needs to be part of Schengen.
As a Spaniard that has been to Gibraltar that place is unique, with its culture and even its own creole and not Spain since a long time. I think it should be left as is. Not really UK not really Spain and with a special arrangement with both. But that’s me.
Thank you ❤ love you and love Spain, just not her Government and the ones who seek to deprive us of our most basic human rights.
so do canadians need a 1. schengen visa, 2. british visa, 3. gibraltar visa to visit during a cruise stop?
None of the above, just bring any kind of contraband like illegal drugs, tobacco, basically anything illegal that is at the expense of others and they will love you.
Good Video!
Especially mentioning why controlling that area was so important for securing the access to the Suez Channel. What's missing IMHO is the presence of British Secret Service SIGINT in that area (for reasons). One has to see the Spanish point of view, too: Spain has the feeling to be permanently spied on! Spain is (like Germany) neither member in the ring of the 'five eyes' nor the ring of the 'Nine Eyes' , but only in the ring of the '14 Eyes'. Many Germans are still aware of what that means since it turned out that the USA spied on Merkel directly (in Obama Times...)
To simplify the whole situation into “Spanish resentment” and nationalism makes the whole video sound stupid. It’s a question of geopolitics, law and sovereignity. No nation will have a tax haven, a nest of smugglers and drug dealers and a bus stop for nuclear subs at their doorstep for free. And without the EU framework the UK has the same rights as Morocco and this seems hard to understand to the average entitled englishman.
It's time to either let Gibraltar go.....or at least give the people of Gibraltar a referendum. This referendum would have a three-way future:
A) Would you like to remain a British Overseas Territory
B) Would you like to become part of Spain
OR
C) Would you like to be a fully independent 'City State' (similar to Singapore)
But the bottom line is the British government owe the people of a Gibraltar a referendum to determine their own future.
The days of Empire are over. Britain needs to acknowledge this, re-invent itself.....and move on. The world is not going to revolve around Britain ever again. Brexiters need to realise this. This 'new empire' they want, is just pure fantasy.
Like to Hong Kong?
Sure, you just need to add some context to what it means in reality:
A) Would you like to remain a British Overseas Territory
- Close the border, no more deliveries of food, products, labour, electricity, drinking water and use of the superior Spanish healthcare.
B) Would you like to become part of Spain
- Become a region of Spain and negotiate with the Spanish Government just as all other Spanish regions have to do.
C) Would you like to be a fully independent 'City State' (similar to Singapore)
- Negotiate with Spain and the EU, and face option "A" should Gibraltar refuse to Tango...
@@mfredholm Sounds good to me.
@@mfredholmwe produce our own drinking water, electricity and have our own healthcare system.
Food we can get from Morocco as we have done in the past. (I’d prefer if we currently still got all our food from Morocco but unfortunately that’s not the case)
And I’m would still vote for option A in your scenario don’t worry.
Britain now has no business being in Gibraltar. It’s Spain.
Lol plenty of parts of Spain don't even want to be Spain. It's not exactly a picture of national cohesion itself
@@ollietizzard5180
Nor is the "united" kingdom.
I not see the problem, the UK holds all the cards. Surely the UK knew what Brexit meant.
That is the problem , we dont .
Nope. The English know nothing about the EU. Nothing id's ever reported here. Brexit is a ponzi scheme
😂
Us in gib will be aight trust brexit means if you not english f off lol😂
@@scooby1992 Their arrogance let them down and now they are stuck on an island with no where to go unless they go to the Pacific and that will cost them even more money on top of what they are already paying for leaving the EU but I guess they chose to learn the hard way what can you say