Wow!! Utd's only away win of the season...I was at this game and first time I've ever seen highlights of it....Wasn't on match of the day...Thats right kids...Liverpool v Utd and wasn't even shown on a highlights program...In fact I remember the 1979 cup semi-final you couldn't even listen to it on the radio until the second half because it clashed with the Grand National, so radio 2 covered the grand national first, then went to 2nd half coverage of the game....If you weren't at the match you didn't know the score....I think it was probably pre-teletext aswell. Ask me what happened yesterday and I probably couldn't tell you lol...But the atmosphere back in the day....Special!
Bob Paisley was on the United team coach for the last mile into Anfield at this match, too. Sir Matt was on yours at the return at OT the following April.
Always got the impression that Colin Gibson really loved playing for United. His reaction when he scored and the way he always got stuck in seemed to back that up.
@@mrkipling2201 I've just looked up the stats and apart from Robson he was the only Atkinson-era signing that Ferguson kept at United into the 1990s. Fergie must have rated him. (not counting youth players like Blackmore, Walsh etc)
Might have been a crap united team back then but I enjoyed going to the games more then than i have since the premier league started. It was proper football back then no whining foreign footballers on £300,000 a week, you didn't need a degree to get a ticket and tackling was allowed!!
The foreign comment seems a bit unfair. Plenty of whining English players on stupid money now, and a few foreign players then who fitted in fine. Otherwise agree, although a crap united team was less of a disadvantage for me!
Very true but the foreign players back then were mainly Scandinavian i.e molby, Olsen etc. which was why they probably integrated better. As a United fan i used to hate watching Liverpool walk the title most seasons but I enjoyed going to games back then a lot more than I do now!! Thanks for the videos as well always good to watch proper football!!
The foreigners and the wages don't bother me. The game has improved technically as a result, and the huge amount of mony sloshing around the game has to go somewhere. What does bother me are the Disney gimmicks and being treated like schoolkids all the time. The one benefit of our hugely disappointing defeat to Chelsea yesterday, is that I didn't have to endure the music and idiotic stadium announcers. The days of great atmospheres are gone forever.
scherben face painted tourists and idiots with their phones out instead of watching the game, no thanks!! I know what you mean about the money but we’ve got clubs in the lower leagues going to the wall yet Sanchez gets his £500,000 a week for doing fuck all !!
Great upload. First time I’ve ever seen highlights from this game, only ever previously seen big norms goal. I was only 16 when my older brother ( spurs fan) took me with his mate ( Liverpool fan). We were in the middle of the kop half way up right behind the goal as I recall great view of big norm blasting that goal in. Funnily norms goal is the only thing I remembered from the game... well and my brother telling me if utd scored to be quiet and don’t celebrate 🤐 . Uploads like this is why UA-cam is amazing 👊.
That cheeky chip/lob in his own area back to the keeper by Molby was class and a class goal from Whiteside also. Funny watching the old games where they just took freekicks straight away, nowadays they stand over the ball for three days talking into their hands like they're on CB radios and then a player runs on with classroom notes from the teacher (manager) and they all take it in turns to read it then the likes of Ronaldo balloons it into row Z.
Got Jan Molby's autograph. Not when he played for Liverpool, but when he became manager of Swansea City way back in the late 90's. The only other Dane that developed such a foreign accent to them was Peter Schmeichel.
It possibly was. I bet there were a few hung-over United players, too. Especially as the next day we lost at home to Norwich, having played shit (after an ear-splitting roar of appreciation when they came out at five to three). The 'double' over you that year was great, but I'd have preferred your trophies and form from that era.
What a strange comment. In his last season, the first half of the season was some of the best ‘we’ll score more than you’ football they played under him. Then they get some injuries and had to play it tighter. Going back a little bit, the 2010 team had arguable their best striking quartet ever. Not sure what you watched.
Did Grobelaar run to the halfway line with the ball in this match? Wasnt able to watch the whole video but I vaguely remember him doing that against Man U.
Thanks so much for uploading this match Dave. This was the first match I attended at Anfield having been a remote Liverpool fan since I was a kid in New Zealand. I had media accreditation for the match as I was a journalist for a football newspaper back home. During Ferguson's after match press conference, Dalglish came in carrying his baby and said "you'll get more sense out of the bairn", which of course ended up on the back page of every newspaper the following day. I also went to the Sheffield Wednesday game the following day and it was a turgid affair. The thing I remember most about that game was I sat in front of two Wednesday supporters who spent the whole game saying how Ian Rush didn't do anything, until of course he did what he did best, scored the winner midway through the second half. It was all I could do to resist the temptation to turn around and make that point to them.
+Dave Petraska Thanks for your comments Dave. I thought the press conference where Kenny brought his baby to speak more sense than Fergie was the following season after a 3-3 draw. Did you go to that as well? Or maybe he did it twice!
Hi Dave no it was definitely after the game I went to, I know because I was THERE lol. I have since read two articles claiming it was at the match you referred to. Maybe he DID say it twice. I'm sure we (you?) could confirm by checking ANY of the tabloid back pages on 27/12/86, because it was the sports lead on every single one of them!
Hi Dave. This seems very strange. He definitely made the comments in 1988. Numerous references - including his diary of the season called "The Liverpool Year" - back this up. Also, his youngest daughter, Lauren, was born in 1988, whereas his next youngest, Lynsey, was born in 1982 so would have been too old to be a baby in 1986. The LFC history website has archived match reports from the Times, but makes no reference in reports of either game, although the 86/87 report has quotes from Kenny about getting his tactics wrong, whereas the 87/88 report has no quotes at all. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd imagine hearing, but it seems unlikely to me that he said something after the 86/87 game. Maybe just a false memory?
Yeah maybe except i've only been to two games at Anfield - the other being the 1-0 win over West Ham about a week later - Paul Walsh got the winner - and only one press conference. All evidence would seem to suggest I imagined the whole thing except I was actually there and as you can imagine was captivated by the whole experience being the first game I ever saw at Anfield. I remember Dalglish coming into the room during Ferguson's press conference holding what appeared to be a baby and saying "you'll get more sense out of the bairn". How could you imagine something like that?!
He definitely made the comments in April 1988. Fergie was unhappy that Colin Gibson had been sent off, and that had led to his "choking back the vomit" quote.
Shades of United now, 30 years later. A pretty average, maybe a poor side (except from Robbo, Whiteside and Strachan). No wonder it took SAF quite a few years to start winning something. Had to give some players a chance to prove they were good enough (they weren't) and then to get them out for decent money.
Clubs were allowed to film and sell their own individual club videos before the Premier League came along. Kenneth Wolstenholme used to do the Spurs ones, and the Bolton videos in particular were quite famous.
Jesper Olsen has a look of David Silva? When football had atmosphere! Feel sorry for the kids today having not experienced proper football!! Sky TV and the greedy bastards at the FA did far more damage than hooliganism ever did.
scherben or sprayed CS gas around. But it wasn’t as much as some people think. Someone invent a time machine please !! So I can go back and watch proper football every week !!
great win in what was an otherwise dire period for United. shame about Gary Walsh, thought he was a good prospect before he got injured. Jan Molby always a threat from range and what a cracking footballer Mark Laurenson was. What was that indirect free kick in the area given for in the first half? was the ref preampting the back pass rule by several years?
Not sure if the rule is still present but i'm pretty sure back then it was if the goalkeeper releases the ball it has to leave the 18 yard box before a teammate can touch it otherwise if they do, an indirect free kick is awarded. The United players didn't really complain so was probably just a lapse of concentration by Walsh and Gibson there.......or they just didn't know the rules :P
Big Norman was a fucking legend. He had the last laugh that day. Other than him, robson and a couple of others that was a dogshit united team but as usual in those days they turned it on against Liverpool
@@andyjoyce9956 United started to lose (semi)-regularly to Liverpol in the early 1990s at the same time that they started competing regularly for trophies - maybe not a coincidence.
Unless it's a mistake, it looks like one of those rules from back then designed to speed things up. Loads of them got deleted when the backpass law came in. Maybe if the keeper plays the ball to a team-mate inside the penalty area he can't receive it back? Not any rule that exists nowadays, you hardly ever see an indirect free-kick anymore and they used to be very common.
Yes that was a bit naughty wasn't it. Still, Norm was never shy about giving it out so I think he probably accepted he was going to get a bit back from time to time.
@robicenco1 ...yes, whiteside always put it about v liverpool...85 cup semi final replay was his best... so liverpool players were after him after that...Easter 88 3 3 draw is another that springs to mind
Scholes couldn't tackle so he kicked people, Whiteside could tackle but chose to boot people up in the air! A pity Whiteside's body packed up (but not a surprise - he was run into the ground from the age of 17). He could have been a key part of United's team in the early 1990s. Who knows, we might have won the league a year earlier than we did if he and Robson had had better fitness.
Incredible support, sounded like a home game for United. What a goal by Whiteside btw!!!
Wow!! Utd's only away win of the season...I was at this game and first time I've ever seen highlights of it....Wasn't on match of the day...Thats right kids...Liverpool v Utd and wasn't even shown on a highlights program...In fact I remember the 1979 cup semi-final you couldn't even listen to it on the radio until the second half because it clashed with the Grand National, so radio 2 covered the grand national first, then went to 2nd half coverage of the game....If you weren't at the match you didn't know the score....I think it was probably pre-teletext aswell. Ask me what happened yesterday and I probably couldn't tell you lol...But the atmosphere back in the day....Special!
The commentator is Colin Benson who did a lot of club video commentaries at that time.
@@DaveWallerLFC I won't say another word, I've said enough. Thanks for the info
I was also at the game..I'm guessing it wasn't on match of the day because it was Boxing day.
I remember,it got testy on the way back to Line Street.
Lime..
Bob Paisley was on the United team coach for the last mile into Anfield at this match, too. Sir Matt was on yours at the return at OT the following April.
Wonder how these elderly gentlemen felt about being used as human shields. I guess they made sure that it was well publicised in advance...
And an inflatable plane appeared in the Scoreboard paddock....these Chelsea fans get everywhere!!
Always got the impression that Colin Gibson really loved playing for United. His reaction when he scored and the way he always got stuck in seemed to back that up.
Gibbo was an honest trier!
robicenco1 certainly was!! Unfortunately injuries plagued his time at United.
@@mrkipling2201 I've just looked up the stats and apart from Robson he was the only Atkinson-era signing that Ferguson kept at United into the 1990s. Fergie must have rated him.
(not counting youth players like Blackmore, Walsh etc)
@@robicenco1 did he really?? I know he played in the 1990 cup semi final but I thought he left just after that.
@@mrkipling2201 Yes, he left i 1990 so I might be stretching the point a bit!
I love the way Liverpool use to play,so creative,Molby was a genius,picked out great passes.6>1 Amen.
first derby for SAF and he won it GGMU
The derby is against city....
LMAO
He did the double over Liverpool in both his first and last seasons
@@robicenco1701 it's a bigger game than the one against City. Means far more than the Manchester derby
Norman Whiteside's goal is at 18:20.
Thank you for uploading this!
Might have been a crap united team back then but I enjoyed going to the games more then than i have since the premier league started. It was proper football back then no whining foreign footballers on £300,000 a week, you didn't need a degree to get a ticket and tackling was allowed!!
The foreign comment seems a bit unfair. Plenty of whining English players on stupid money now, and a few foreign players then who fitted in fine. Otherwise agree, although a crap united team was less of a disadvantage for me!
Very true but the foreign players back then were mainly Scandinavian i.e molby, Olsen etc. which was why they probably integrated better. As a United fan i used to hate watching Liverpool walk the title most seasons but I enjoyed going to games back then a lot more than I do now!! Thanks for the videos as well always good to watch proper football!!
The foreigners and the wages don't bother me. The game has improved technically as a result, and the huge amount of mony sloshing around the game has to go somewhere. What does bother me are the Disney gimmicks and being treated like schoolkids all the time. The one benefit of our hugely disappointing defeat to Chelsea yesterday, is that I didn't have to endure the music and idiotic stadium announcers. The days of great atmospheres are gone forever.
scherben face painted tourists and idiots with their phones out instead of watching the game, no thanks!! I know what you mean about the money but we’ve got clubs in the lower leagues going to the wall yet Sanchez gets his £500,000 a week for doing fuck all !!
Late 80s were dead an crowds were poor sky reinvented a dying product an the masses love it. To old school lads our culture was extinguished slowly.
Great upload. First time I’ve ever seen highlights from this game, only ever previously seen big norms goal. I was only 16 when my older brother ( spurs fan) took me with his mate ( Liverpool fan). We were in the middle of the kop half way up right behind the goal as I recall great view of big norm blasting that goal in. Funnily norms goal is the only thing I remembered from the game... well and my brother telling me if utd scored to be quiet and don’t celebrate 🤐 . Uploads like this is why UA-cam is amazing 👊.
That cheeky chip/lob in his own area back to the keeper by Molby was class and a class goal from Whiteside also. Funny watching the old games where they just took freekicks straight away, nowadays they stand over the ball for three days talking into their hands like they're on CB radios and then a player runs on with classroom notes from the teacher (manager) and they all take it in turns to read it then the likes of Ronaldo balloons it into row Z.
I'm old enough to remember these days, ( I'm in my mid 40s). But it's quite clear footballers improve over time. Great days though.
Bullshit
21:52 real scenes from the away Utd fans. (fanatical). It meant so much to beat the old enemy. Support is much more sanitised now
If my memory serves, Liverpool actually played at Sheffield Wednesday THE DAY AFTER this game, on Dec 27th, and won 1-0. That in itself is incredible.
correct
Got Jan Molby's autograph. Not when he played for Liverpool, but when he became manager of Swansea City way back in the late 90's. The only other Dane that developed such a foreign accent to them was Peter Schmeichel.
Man Utd and Liverpool had same style away kit that season both Adidas Originals template
I've got the 1986-88 white United kit, it's beautiful. Too small for me to fit into now, sadly...
@@robicenco1 shame but keep as collectors items
Our only away win of 1986-87.
It possibly was. I bet there were a few hung-over United players, too. Especially as the next day we lost at home to Norwich, having played shit (after an ear-splitting roar of appreciation when they came out at five to three).
The 'double' over you that year was great, but I'd have preferred your trophies and form from that era.
scherben ye i went to this an norwich we had a descent crowd for norwich cos of this win
Great fun. What a contrast to Sir Alex's later teams
What a strange comment. In his last season, the first half of the season was some of the best ‘we’ll score more than you’ football they played under him. Then they get some injuries and had to play it tighter. Going back a little bit, the 2010 team had arguable their best striking quartet ever. Not sure what you watched.
@@_Tricky_ I think he means that this team was pretty bad, and his later teams were very good? Seems accurate enough to me.
Did Grobelaar run to the halfway line with the ball in this match? Wasnt able to watch the whole video but I vaguely remember him doing that against Man U.
Thanks so much for uploading this match Dave. This was the first match I attended at Anfield having been a remote Liverpool fan since I was a kid in New Zealand. I had media accreditation for the match as I was a journalist for a football newspaper back home. During Ferguson's after match press conference, Dalglish came in carrying his baby and said "you'll get more sense out of the bairn", which of course ended up on the back page of every newspaper the following day. I also went to the Sheffield Wednesday game the following day and it was a turgid affair. The thing I remember most about that game was I sat in front of two Wednesday supporters who spent the whole game saying how Ian Rush didn't do anything, until of course he did what he did best, scored the winner midway through the second half. It was all I could do to resist the temptation to turn around and make that point to them.
+Dave Petraska Thanks for your comments Dave. I thought the press conference where Kenny brought his baby to speak more sense than Fergie was the following season after a 3-3 draw. Did you go to that as well? Or maybe he did it twice!
Hi Dave no it was definitely after the game I went to, I know because I was THERE lol. I have since read two articles claiming it was at the match you referred to. Maybe he DID say it twice. I'm sure we (you?) could confirm by checking ANY of the tabloid back pages on 27/12/86, because it was the sports lead on every single one of them!
Hi Dave. This seems very strange. He definitely made the comments in 1988. Numerous references - including his diary of the season called "The Liverpool Year" - back this up. Also, his youngest daughter, Lauren, was born in 1988, whereas his next youngest, Lynsey, was born in 1982 so would have been too old to be a baby in 1986. The LFC history website has archived match reports from the Times, but makes no reference in reports of either game, although the 86/87 report has quotes from Kenny about getting his tactics wrong, whereas the 87/88 report has no quotes at all. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd imagine hearing, but it seems unlikely to me that he said something after the 86/87 game. Maybe just a false memory?
Yeah maybe except i've only been to two games at Anfield - the other being the 1-0 win over West Ham about a week later - Paul Walsh got the winner - and only one press conference. All evidence would seem to suggest I imagined the whole thing except I was actually there and as you can imagine was captivated by the whole experience being the first game I ever saw at Anfield. I remember Dalglish coming into the room during Ferguson's press conference holding what appeared to be a baby and saying "you'll get more sense out of the bairn". How could you imagine something like that?!
He definitely made the comments in April 1988. Fergie was unhappy that Colin Gibson had been sent off, and that had led to his "choking back the vomit" quote.
Shades of United now, 30 years later. A pretty average, maybe a poor side (except from Robbo, Whiteside and Strachan).
No wonder it took SAF quite a few years to start winning something. Had to give some players a chance to prove they were good enough (they weren't) and then to get them out for decent money.
I take it this match wasn't aired on UK TV at the time, right? So, where's this footage from?
No. It's from a club video.
Clubs were allowed to film and sell their own individual club videos before the Premier League came along. Kenneth Wolstenholme used to do the Spurs ones, and the Bolton videos in particular were quite famous.
Fergie was only just appointed manager and he goes to anfield and wins....
Jesper Olsen has a look of David Silva? When football had atmosphere! Feel sorry for the kids today having not experienced proper football!! Sky TV and the greedy bastards at the FA did far more damage than hooliganism ever did.
Was thinking that myself recently. Not that that excuses the fucking idiots who threw darts and wielded blades.
scherben or sprayed CS gas around. But it wasn’t as much as some people think. Someone invent a time machine please !! So I can go back and watch proper football every week !!
Always did well against Liverpool at that time, even given their dominance at both home and abroad.
great win in what was an otherwise dire period for United. shame about Gary Walsh, thought he was a good prospect before he got injured. Jan Molby always a threat from range and what a cracking footballer Mark Laurenson was. What was that indirect free kick in the area given for in the first half? was the ref preampting the back pass rule by several years?
Not sure if the rule is still present but i'm pretty sure back then it was if the goalkeeper releases the ball it has to leave the 18 yard box before a teammate can touch it otherwise if they do, an indirect free kick is awarded. The United players didn't really complain so was probably just a lapse of concentration by Walsh and Gibson there.......or they just didn't know the rules :P
Big Norman was a fucking legend. He had the last laugh that day.
Other than him, robson and a couple of others that was a dogshit united team but as usual in those days they turned it on against Liverpool
PTS82: Yeah we only lost twice in the league in the 80's against Liverpool. Then in 1990 we lost twice in six months against Liverpool.
@@andyjoyce9956 United started to lose (semi)-regularly to Liverpol in the early 1990s at the same time that they started competing regularly for trophies - maybe not a coincidence.
Why did they stop doing Boxing Day matches between these clubs?
Bad hand ball at the end there by Robson then he fakes being hit in the face!
What was the free kick for. Around 9.30
I thought it might be the old 4 steps rule but if that's the case I think the ref got it wrong. Alternively some dissent that we cant hear?
Unless it's a mistake, it looks like one of those rules from back then designed to speed things up. Loads of them got deleted when the backpass law came in. Maybe if the keeper plays the ball to a team-mate inside the penalty area he can't receive it back? Not any rule that exists nowadays, you hardly ever see an indirect free-kick anymore and they used to be very common.
Is that Gary Walsh is goal.......went school with Gaz, looks so young......didn't think he played in his game....great memories of good old footy
Yes it is.
@@DaveWallerLFC
Blimey.... Was our keeper at school ha ha really didn't realise he played in 86...i had 88-89 in my head
3:59 Red card for stamping on Norman by that bastion of fair play.....Dalglish!!
Yes that was a bit naughty wasn't it. Still, Norm was never shy about giving it out so I think he probably accepted he was going to get a bit back from time to time.
@robicenco1 ...yes, whiteside always put it about v liverpool...85 cup semi final replay was his best... so liverpool players were after him after that...Easter 88 3 3 draw is another that springs to mind
Whiteside was similar to scholesy back then.
Both great football brains. Always 1 step ahead
Scholes couldn't tackle so he kicked people, Whiteside could tackle but chose to boot people up in the air!
A pity Whiteside's body packed up (but not a surprise - he was run into the ground from the age of 17). He could have been a key part of United's team in the early 1990s. Who knows, we might have won the league a year earlier than we did if he and Robson had had better fitness.
@@robicenco1 Didn't help that he was a right pisspot along with many others from that team
i went to this n i am sure it waa our first n only away win
It was our only away win that season !
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Didn't the limesmen have first names?! How times change!
First away I went to, to say it was naughty was a understatement 😂
Remember the the clubs sorting out ex managers on the buses after the the match at Anfield in Feb.
Why did the liverpool players kick ball into the united fans
A Fergie very First win against Liverpool in early reign
I was at this game aged 14 I remember white side kicking the ball into the main stand then snarling at us all ,, what a twat he was lol
What about that commentary.. archaic 📻 radio
Haha anyone know why the Liverpool players all ran over a booted the balls into the away end?
The Man Utd players did the same at the other end. It was one of the attempts to diffuse the hatred surrounding this fixture.
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