To be fair, it's Mr. Vekoma that decided to man up, accept criticism, and actually put out good rides for a change. (though I think people were a bit unfair towards old Vekoma, the Boomerangs and SLCs were meh and ew respectively but the Vertigo and Flying Dutchman models were actually really good)
@@VestedUTuber Also, the Boomerangs and SLCs were very much budget models. I wouldn't be surprised if they were less than 50% of a B&M of the same size.
Guys it is barely a rattle. It is mainly the sound of the plastic shaking on the trains similar to pipeline. It has a slight vibration but nothing to really complain about. Yes it is there but it doesn’t matter as it doesn’t take away from the ride experience.
I agree with you here, but the 2nd launch little thump was surprising. Though I think I have found out the reason and I think it is just B&M making there radius of the turn's to tight as that is where it is the worst at on all these new B&M's.
You’re right. It’s just something that influencers won’t stop bringing up about newer rides to stir up hollow conversation because there isn’t enough subject matter of value to discuss. I rode Iron Menace last week; it was hardly anything.
People experience rattles differently. Some might notice it more than others. I, for one, tend to be more sensitive to shaky coasters. If you aren’t, that’s great! It’s worth it to acknowledge that it IS there especially for someone who might come across this video and otherwise wouldn’t know.
really? they let you in all the lines with a bag? thats very surprising. I didn't ride anything else during our most recent visit because it was just too hot- I'll have to check out some other rides next time I'm in town
We went to SeaWorld yesterday and they weren’t letting people bring bags into Penguin Trek’s line. They had bins for small items but no bags were allowed in line.
I totally agree with you when it comes to the fact that this ride was far overdue. While SeaWorld is great for thrill seekers and coaster enthusiasts, they didn’t really have a stand out ride for families outside of something like journey to Atlantis. This was a great addition for the park and I hope B&M does another family coaster like this (Without the noticeable rattle and restraints)
Lockers UPDATE: I visited Seaworld yesterday and riders with backpacks were turned away and told to get a locker. Only allowed fannypacks and items smaller. And we waited exactly 80 minutes for the ride to open as there were technical issues. The ride itself was excellent. 100% fun.
Standing in line for this ride right now 😂 ill give an update after Edit: it’s a fun little family launched coaster. I wouldn’t call it rattle, but it definitely has a vibration on turns (especially on the final turn into the station) but it doesn’t take away from the experience. Solid 7
I found that with Nemesis Reborn, lots of people were reporting a bad rattle, I rode it 12 times and only noticed a slight rattle toward the end of one of the rides.
@@Liight I am hoping it was just the train I was on and the row. Other reviews never mentioned it. Maybe just some adjustments are needed on the trains.
I got the chance to ride it once on a quick visit and was pleasantly surprised, especially after beating the bad reviews. I didn’t find it rough at all. Launches were indeed punchy. One cool thing that happened is my train dueled manta when we passed. Good family coaster.
One thing I will say about B&M rattles is that Kings Island is the epicenter of this issue. I love all 3 of them but DB and Banshee have really crazy shuffles in the low parts of the ride. I will say that Orion has gotten better since opening and I feel like you can see why. Look at a more recent POV of the ride and you can see that they’ve beefed up the ride foundation in certain areas. Interesting to see if Sea World has to do something similar as an eventual fix
Great coaster for the whole family. I just wish a little more theming in regards to the arctic. Being in the intense HEAT of Florida, I think a nice windy blizzard with artificial snow would have really made the experience much better and even more popular. They could have filled up some empty spots also. Excellent ride though. Love the launches. I also think the penguin real live penguin at the end is the best part.
Fun Fact: 42" B&M's lowest height restriction to date. Most B&Ms actually have a 54" height restriction. I kind of would've preferred to have animal exhibits in the queue instead of the exit to occupy myself while waiting in line kind of like they have with Manta.
My first thought after riding it was how fun the ride was (especially since it's aimed at the young kid audience which is important to my family right now). But my second thought was "wow - this has a distinct shutter. I wonder if that's why the ride keeps breaking down, and if so is it actually safe?" Note I'm a mechanical engineer but my expertise is not in vibrational analysis. I love the air conditioned entry and release sections. Dumping you into the penguin exhibit is fantastic, but certainly needs some additional clarification. Like maybe have a message when you are in queue of what to expect, where to go, etc. Definitely some more signage on where to go, what to expect. I was lost the first trip through. Also, the fact that the open-to-you penguin exhibit is held at around 32 F is amazing when you're battling the Florida heat (I've lived here my whole life so I'm not just complaining with no perspective). What's not so awesome are the choke points. There needs to be a bypass, even if it still routes you through the enclosure, so you can easily walk by the gawkers on repeat runs. FWIW I'm fine with it requiring you to go through the exhibit to increase foot traffic to an otherwise less traveled but neat enclosure. But wading through people just standing there is not ideal, and once you've seen them one time that day there's no real need to loiter on each subsequent run.
If you told me back in 2003 when I first became a Roller Coaster fan that one day B&Ms would have a rattle and Vekomas would be glass smooth I would have asked you what kind of drug are you on... 😂
Something like this would be a perfect addition for Cedar Point. They could probably weave a layout around the front kid sections of the park after moving a few things around. The station has an odd resemblance to Disaster Transport.
Been following this channel long enough to see Vekoma go from the butt of the joke to Taylor wishing he was riding one instead of a B&M because it’s smoother. Truly strange times we live in
I wonder if this B&M model is designed for a thrill coaster with inversions. I like the single row car design makes it look different from Mack, Intamin, Vekoma.
I was one of the first on Penguin Trek and also rode it opening day to the public. I can tell you from a coaster enthusiast pov there is no shake on this ride. Exact opposite in fact, it's glass smooth, kind of like Mako. If I had a complaint, it would come from my 15 year old son who called it "really nice, but underwhelming".
I barely noticed the rattle on the first turn but didnt notice it anywhere else. Rode the back row. The worst thing was all the queueing up just to leave the building...
I rode it 2x and the rattle immediately got my attention, asking how can a brand new coaster in 2024 rattle? It's a shame but it's not too bad as Kraken but it's noticeable. And of course the longest exit trough the penguins is bizarre, definitely there should be an option to exit or to go to see penguins...still a good ride for kids, much needed at seaworld... Great review guys, you pointed out everything.
@@notcool1079 More humid and the humidity does keep the temperatures from getting as hot as it otherwise would. It takes a lot of energy to warm all those water droplets in the air. Florida's record high anywhere in the state was 109 degrees. Compare that to North Dakota's record 121 degrees where a dryer airmass was allowed to warm rapidly in a dry summer. Even my home state of Illinois had a record high of 117 degrees. But while the northern states have all reported higher record highs than most of the southeast states, Florida does average consistently warmer by far.
@@wawawis I’m aware of the humidity I just said it’s very hot because I was at Busch gardens Tampa on my Florida trip 2 weeks ago and it was 98 most of the day, plus the humidity made it feel hotter
Seeing b&ms getting rougher is sad, b&m used to be a code name for smoothness, so b&m getting rougher really shows that instead of making quality to stand out, they’re expecting people to assume their quality and their doing budget cuts Orion does not have a rattle at all though
@@jefcoble8827 I’m more tolerant about this than some others since KI’s my home park, but it’s interesting when Mystic Timbers does not have a reputation for being slightly rough and that’s a 7 year old wooden roller coaster.
The trains if they change the restraints to be more like their clamshells I would love to see a thrill version of this coaster model with even punchier launches
B&M and rattle seem to go together lately. Sucks because two of my favorite coasters are Alpengheist and Afterburn. Hope they don't become infamous for this because they make great rides.
It's so strange how all these new B&M coasters just don't have that quality build feel to them like they used. Nemesis Reborn can be thrown in that mix as well. None of them I've been on have been painful, and it hasn't detracted from the ride experience, it's just a surprise that the once perfectionists are now making coasters with poor transitions and major rattling issues!
What’s up it’s the vibration issues? Has to do with the wheels or the train? Needs to be fixed asap, it can give you a decent headache. They won’t ever run three trains with their slow operations? Can’t believe they don’t fix these issues before they open the ride up… and you got the jolt after the second launch! Weirdest exit as well that need to be fixed to make it easier to get out of the building but sea world doesn’t care let’s be honest.
I don’t think the rattle is that bad on new bnms but it isn’t just this although i haven’t done it, Nemesis Reborn and Mandrill Mayhem deffintley have this problem on their turns as well.
I have just found out something which could possibly be a cause for the rattle now found on B&Ms so basically alton towers now have a board with a lot of info about nemesis reborn inside the new shop and one of the details I noticed was the track was made in utah which seemed strange to me because B&M has always used clermont in ohio so I'm guessing they have switched which could have caused the rattles and issues with new B&Ms such as iron menaces jolt and the fact nemesis reborns track didn't match up so they had to manufacture new track I know its a wild theory but yeah
I Did this coaster for the first time today and thought it was really cool and fun but man those lap restraints really hurt my thighs. I understand it’s formed for the small kids but most kids that size won’t ride without their parent or an adult. So they really should change the shape a little to make everyone comfortable.
well i guess everyone will hope and pray phoenix rising doesn't have the new rattle or else i feel bad for busch Williamsburg buying that B&M family coaster coming in the future.
While it looks like a decent fit for the park, I honestly dont know if I'd call it that good. Honestly I fear the height, speed, and overbank might still scare some kids off it. I know it wouldve done that to me before I conquered my fear of roller coasters. But also simply as a penguin themed family coaster, I honestly think a ride like Polar-X plorer at Legoland Billund is much better as a penguin themed coaster. Heck it doesnt have a penguin exhibit anymore but when it did, you could look into it while your train was at the brake run.
the only reason I didn't say that is because you start on the incline at a complete stop, vs lightning rod is a rolling launch starting on a flat section of track
@@CoasterStudios fair point but if that’s the case then another alight comparison would be wicked since you start flat before going to the vertical launch. Even though the launch is vertical a similar concept. Just saying
"Average run of the mill family coaster" and proceeds to cut to Viking at Energylandia... 😂 Please dear god put a trigger warning before showing that ride. I have unresolved trauma from how much that thing hurt!
Why are most new coasters rattling . Its so weird . I rode nemesis the year they closed it before the retrack and i can honestly say that was glass smooth conpared to nemesis reborn . Same for the new wing coaster at chessington , thats genuinely rough . Hyperia has already got a rartle aswell . The old 90s b&m's where so much better quality
Just got off, I really enjoyed the effort put into station and queue but I have a few gripes. 1) The rattle on those turns were definitely noticeable in almost every row. I even heard GP on all 3 rides I got on it, complaining about it being shaky and noisy. 2) The 2nd half of the dark ride section has a big section where I thought some more theming could’ve been invested, specifically on the left hand side. It’s just total empty dark space. Same goes for outside theming along the coaster layout. 3) The exit… The exit… The exit… what an absolute nightmare. Traversing through the old EOTP queue with labeled exit doors blocked and forced to go through 2 more penguin exhibits after the ride?? Total miss. It was a maze leaving the ride for me and several others. I even had a guy make a joke about just taking the emergency exit out lol. Otherwise great addition to SWO’s lineup but set back by typical United Parks budgeting and operations.
Unfortunately Vekoma too over time is the same way with rattles, Cosmic Rewind at Epcot is a perfect example, it has a bad shake in the last car on that ride now and it is only 3 years old, and all the different trains have that same bad shake and rattle
B&M is going to have to do a lot if they want to stay alive with competitors that offer cheaper and better rides, and it's reasonable to assume that B&M might go under within the next 10 years
To many issues with their new models. Terrible rattle on pipeline with the top heavy trains not connected to eachother, who know when someone will want that type or coaster and now this coaster issue to deal with.
Idk why all the new b&m's have a smoothness issue. Watching all the reverse povs, Iron menace's rattle is absolutely unacceptable. While this "rattle" is nothing but a slight shake, both iron menace and this have a jolt in their layouts, and this is way slower, so my guess is severe manufacturing issues/defects on behalf of Clermont steel where they build the track. Regardless, both Clermont and b&m need to fix themselves up bc without their trademark smoothness b&m wont survive in this market Holy cow i just wrote an entire essay about roller coasters
This and Phoenix Rising are absolute trash we tried front and back on Penguin Trek and the rattle is horrible and it's so bad on Phoenix Rising that it made me nauseous. Having just ridden Big Bear and Dragonflyer a couple of days earlier, I have to say that SeaWorld and Busch Gardens made a huge mistake purchasing these from B&M. The smell and being forced into the penguin room after this ride is really stupid on a busy day.
It’s a shame that a brand new 2024 ride has more restrictive restraints than older models from the same manufacturer. Seems like we’re going in reverse in terms of innovation and allowing all kinds of riders to enjoy these attractions.
Please watch “Blackfish.” SEAWORLD should’ve been shut down decades ago. Their ongoing torture of sentient beings is criminal. When I saw this story, I became frightened. As long as SEAWORLD exists, marine animals will perish under their care. Send their captives to sanctuaries. Boycott SEAWORLD. Thank you.
B&Ms getting rougher as Vekomas get smoother is the most ironic thing ever when you think about how it was the opposite 20-30 years ago
And Intamins are getting bad too (just look how rough Velocicoaster is already)
Congrats on finding common ground with Mr. Vekoma. You both have come a long way since the Coaster Parody era.
To be fair, it's Mr. Vekoma that decided to man up, accept criticism, and actually put out good rides for a change. (though I think people were a bit unfair towards old Vekoma, the Boomerangs and SLCs were meh and ew respectively but the Vertigo and Flying Dutchman models were actually really good)
@@VestedUTuber Also, the Boomerangs and SLCs were very much budget models. I wouldn't be surprised if they were less than 50% of a B&M of the same size.
Guys it is barely a rattle. It is mainly the sound of the plastic shaking on the trains similar to pipeline. It has a slight vibration but nothing to really complain about. Yes it is there but it doesn’t matter as it doesn’t take away from the ride experience.
I agree with you here, but the 2nd launch little thump was surprising. Though I think I have found out the reason and I think it is just B&M making there radius of the turn's to tight as that is where it is the worst at on all these new B&M's.
You’re right. It’s just something that influencers won’t stop bringing up about newer rides to stir up hollow conversation because there isn’t enough subject matter of value to discuss. I rode Iron Menace last week; it was hardly anything.
People experience rattles differently. Some might notice it more than others. I, for one, tend to be more sensitive to shaky coasters. If you aren’t, that’s great! It’s worth it to acknowledge that it IS there especially for someone who might come across this video and otherwise wouldn’t know.
@@Artbyhurricanyounot Very correct. Thanks for stating this:)
Have modern B&Ms just gotten rougher over the years out of nowhere? Like their new coasters are suppose to be glass smooth.
4:20 actually, I was just there last week and didn’t have to use a locker once! They now have storage bins in EVERY station, it’s great!
That's awesome news, I'm going in August and wasn't looking forward to having to pay for lockers
really? they let you in all the lines with a bag? thats very surprising. I didn't ride anything else during our most recent visit because it was just too hot- I'll have to check out some other rides next time I'm in town
@@CoasterStudios For real! It’s an awesome improvement
I somehow doubt that.
We went to SeaWorld yesterday and they weren’t letting people bring bags into Penguin Trek’s line. They had bins for small items but no bags were allowed in line.
Sea World has got to be B&Ms favorite client.
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I totally agree with you when it comes to the fact that this ride was far overdue. While SeaWorld is great for thrill seekers and coaster enthusiasts, they didn’t really have a stand out ride for families outside of something like journey to Atlantis. This was a great addition for the park and I hope B&M does another family coaster like this (Without the noticeable rattle and restraints)
Lockers UPDATE: I visited Seaworld yesterday and riders with backpacks were turned away and told to get a locker. Only allowed fannypacks and items smaller. And we waited exactly 80 minutes for the ride to open as there were technical issues. The ride itself was excellent. 100% fun.
It’s surprisingly fun for a family coaster, feels quite fast when you are on it.
“Accompanied by a responsible adult”
*Shows Taylor*
Standing in line for this ride right now 😂 ill give an update after
Edit: it’s a fun little family launched coaster. I wouldn’t call it rattle, but it definitely has a vibration on turns (especially on the final turn into the station) but it doesn’t take away from the experience. Solid 7
one of the best parts of my job, seeing the finished product
I just rode this last weekend and it was perfectly smooth for me. I don’t know why people are saying its shakey. I thought it was really fun though.
I found that with Nemesis Reborn, lots of people were reporting a bad rattle, I rode it 12 times and only noticed a slight rattle toward the end of one of the rides.
@@Liight I am hoping it was just the train I was on and the row. Other reviews never mentioned it. Maybe just some adjustments are needed on the trains.
Its not shaky or rough there's just one terrible transition at the end of the second launch
Could be the wheels 🛞 they use
I got the chance to ride it once on a quick visit and was pleasantly surprised, especially after beating the bad reviews. I didn’t find it rough at all. Launches were indeed punchy. One cool thing that happened is my train dueled manta when we passed. Good family coaster.
This is a fun little ride! We noticed the slight rattle. The launch and first drop is fun!
One thing I will say about B&M rattles is that Kings Island is the epicenter of this issue. I love all 3 of them but DB and Banshee have really crazy shuffles in the low parts of the ride. I will say that Orion has gotten better since opening and I feel like you can see why. Look at a more recent POV of the ride and you can see that they’ve beefed up the ride foundation in certain areas. Interesting to see if Sea World has to do something similar as an eventual fix
I went to seaworld in early June and saw this ride and it looked really cool!
Great coaster for the whole family. I just wish a little more theming in regards to the arctic. Being in the intense HEAT of Florida, I think a nice windy blizzard with artificial snow would have really made the experience much better and even more popular. They could have filled up some empty spots also. Excellent ride though. Love the launches. I also think the penguin real live penguin at the end is the best part.
Orion has been running great since the 2021 season
It had a shaky start, but it's glass smooth as of last year
Fun Fact: 42" B&M's lowest height restriction to date. Most B&Ms actually have a 54" height restriction.
I kind of would've preferred to have animal exhibits in the queue instead of the exit to occupy myself while waiting in line kind of like they have with Manta.
7:04 oh yes, Penguin Trek, the launch spiritual successor of LRod, love it!
My first thought after riding it was how fun the ride was (especially since it's aimed at the young kid audience which is important to my family right now). But my second thought was "wow - this has a distinct shutter. I wonder if that's why the ride keeps breaking down, and if so is it actually safe?" Note I'm a mechanical engineer but my expertise is not in vibrational analysis.
I love the air conditioned entry and release sections. Dumping you into the penguin exhibit is fantastic, but certainly needs some additional clarification. Like maybe have a message when you are in queue of what to expect, where to go, etc. Definitely some more signage on where to go, what to expect. I was lost the first trip through.
Also, the fact that the open-to-you penguin exhibit is held at around 32 F is amazing when you're battling the Florida heat (I've lived here my whole life so I'm not just complaining with no perspective).
What's not so awesome are the choke points. There needs to be a bypass, even if it still routes you through the enclosure, so you can easily walk by the gawkers on repeat runs. FWIW I'm fine with it requiring you to go through the exhibit to increase foot traffic to an otherwise less traveled but neat enclosure. But wading through people just standing there is not ideal, and once you've seen them one time that day there's no real need to loiter on each subsequent run.
If you told me back in 2003 when I first became a Roller Coaster fan that one day B&Ms would have a rattle and Vekomas would be glass smooth I would have asked you what kind of drug are you on... 😂
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Something like this would be a perfect addition for Cedar Point. They could probably weave a layout around the front kid sections of the park after moving a few things around. The station has an odd resemblance to Disaster Transport.
The ride's main marquee is so neat
Been following this channel long enough to see Vekoma go from the butt of the joke to Taylor wishing he was riding one instead of a B&M because it’s smoother. Truly strange times we live in
This is like if the combined Alpengeist and Loch Ness monster together
Still amazing how they fit it in
I wonder if this B&M model is designed for a thrill coaster with inversions. I like the single row car design makes it look different from Mack, Intamin, Vekoma.
Well there aren't any thrill coasters of B&M of this model so I don't think it was designed for that. Maybe they will make one that does, who knows.
You can ask for that if you have money
Heck even allegedly they also tried clamshell on inversion
I was one of the first on Penguin Trek and also rode it opening day to the public. I can tell you from a coaster enthusiast pov there is no shake on this ride. Exact opposite in fact, it's glass smooth, kind of like Mako. If I had a complaint, it would come from my 15 year old son who called it "really nice, but underwhelming".
I barely noticed the rattle on the first turn but didnt notice it anywhere else. Rode the back row. The worst thing was all the queueing up just to leave the building...
RIDIN IT TMMRW also this a good replacement for empire of the penguin
Great addition to the park!
I rode it 2x and the rattle immediately got my attention, asking how can a brand new coaster in 2024 rattle? It's a shame but it's not too bad as Kraken but it's noticeable. And of course the longest exit trough the penguins is bizarre, definitely there should be an option to exit or to go to see penguins...still a good ride for kids, much needed at seaworld... Great review guys, you pointed out everything.
I thought the coolest point in the indoor section is the ice sculpture penguin before the launch. Looked really cool.
7 years ago i would've looked at you like you were crazy if you told me that a vekoma coaster was smoother than a B&M😭😭 but look where we are
Excited to go to Florida in 2027!!
It’s very hot
@@notcool1079 More humid and the humidity does keep the temperatures from getting as hot as it otherwise would. It takes a lot of energy to warm all those water droplets in the air. Florida's record high anywhere in the state was 109 degrees. Compare that to North Dakota's record 121 degrees where a dryer airmass was allowed to warm rapidly in a dry summer. Even my home state of Illinois had a record high of 117 degrees. But while the northern states have all reported higher record highs than most of the southeast states, Florida does average consistently warmer by far.
@@wawawis I’m aware of the humidity I just said it’s very hot because I was at Busch gardens Tampa on my Florida trip 2 weeks ago and it was 98 most of the day, plus the humidity made it feel hotter
when is the great escape vlog coming? (totally not biased because its my home park)
we hope to have it up sometime next week but it could be pushed back depending on our workload
That’s what I been hearing about the B&M new coasters (the rattle)
Felt very smooth for average riders. This guy just rides every coaster on the planet so he would know but for an average rider it’s very good
13:44 which offers you this CHILLING CHALLENGE…
Seeing b&ms getting rougher is sad, b&m used to be a code name for smoothness, so b&m getting rougher really shows that instead of making quality to stand out, they’re expecting people to assume their quality and their doing budget cuts
Orion does not have a rattle at all though
I’d say Orion has a slight one, but it’s not as noticeable as Banshee or Diamondback. Emperor however, is one of the smoothest coasters I’ve been on.
@@spencoaster838 I didn’t think any b&m at kings island had a rattle at all when I went so idk why everyone acts like they rattle
@@jefcoble8827 I’m more tolerant about this than some others since KI’s my home park, but it’s interesting when Mystic Timbers does not have a reputation for being slightly rough and that’s a 7 year old wooden roller coaster.
I really want to go to Florida !!!
The trains if they change the restraints to be more like their clamshells I would love to see a thrill version of this coaster model with even punchier launches
B&M and rattle seem to go together lately. Sucks because two of my favorite coasters are Alpengheist and Afterburn. Hope they don't become infamous for this because they make great rides.
Intamin has really rough thrill coasters now (I’ve only ridden Velocicoaster) 11:19
As a 6'3" person this ride's restraints were very comfortable actually.
thats good to hear!
Same height as you at 280 pounds plus and if I didn’t have thick legs, I’d say I was comfortable
I noticed they reused the screen and video from empire of the penguin I recognise that video
Can’t wait to ride my ride 🐧
Idc if it rattles. Might me a small shimmy, which shouldn’t affect my experience
Manta and filtration we heard you guys were talking about family coasters well boy do we have some
I swear seaworld is literally building new b&ms like what’s next b&ms first spaceship rollercoaster😂😂
It's so strange how all these new B&M coasters just don't have that quality build feel to them like they used. Nemesis Reborn can be thrown in that mix as well.
None of them I've been on have been painful, and it hasn't detracted from the ride experience, it's just a surprise that the once perfectionists are now making coasters with poor transitions and major rattling issues!
This reminds me of Planet Coaster 2 because the surf coaster lol. But anyways this ride looks really fun for kids and even adults.
Hyped for that game
Hey Taylor Are you going to Cedar point in July? I’m going to be there if you guys are available!
we will not be there in July
The restraints aren’t too bad, but one time I got stapled and it really hurt my hips.
With SWO adding a new coaster every year, they should pass magic mountain by 2036!
In an alternate reality I’m a Viking!
What’s up it’s the vibration issues? Has to do with the wheels or the train? Needs to be fixed asap, it can give you a decent headache. They won’t ever run three trains with their slow operations? Can’t believe they don’t fix these issues before they open the ride up… and you got the jolt after the second launch! Weirdest exit as well that need to be fixed to make it easier to get out of the building but sea world doesn’t care let’s be honest.
I don’t think the rattle is that bad on new bnms but it isn’t just this although i haven’t done it, Nemesis Reborn and Mandrill Mayhem deffintley have this problem on their turns as well.
I found Nemesis Reborn to be glass smooth apart from the final turn into the brake run actually
@@AidanStead-bp8rr yeah it is mainly the turns
I have just found out something which could possibly be a cause for the rattle now found on B&Ms so basically alton towers now have a board with a lot of info about nemesis reborn inside the new shop and one of the details I noticed was the track was made in utah which seemed strange to me because B&M has always used clermont in ohio so I'm guessing they have switched which could have caused the rattles and issues with new B&Ms such as iron menaces jolt and the fact nemesis reborns track didn't match up so they had to manufacture new track I know its a wild theory but yeah
To my knowledge that is a mistake on Alton Towers part; the track for nemesis WAS manufactured in Ohio
@CoasterStudios ah okay just I seen and it immediately triggered something would definitely have been something if it was true
Yes. The coaster rattles. I was in row 5 and thought is this a B&M? And that jolt transition doesn't help. Noticed both.
I Did this coaster for the first time today and thought it was really cool and fun but man those lap restraints really hurt my thighs. I understand it’s formed for the small kids but most kids that size won’t ride without their parent or an adult. So they really should change the shape a little to make everyone comfortable.
Journey to Atlantis is also a family coaster you know
well i guess everyone will hope and pray phoenix rising doesn't have the new rattle or else i feel bad for busch Williamsburg buying that B&M family coaster coming in the future.
My problem with this ride is that it doesn't play Antarctica: One World, One Family by Lauren Alaina at the end.
I hope Kings Dominions new coaster aint gonna be shakey.
Yeah, probably the biggest thing B&M's done that's truly post-2020, so I hope they know eyes are on them. Track surely LOOKS good, massive up close!
it prob will be :/
Well I guess we know where skyrush’s restraints went to…
should have used the steel dragon 2 across clamshell trains
another family coaster, add it to the 6 mile long list
A little shaky in the front, much more so in the back. And there is a weird side-to-side jolt in the track right at the second launch.
I didn’t find Emperor shaky and Orion definitely wasn’t. The rest are though.
While it looks like a decent fit for the park, I honestly dont know if I'd call it that good. Honestly I fear the height, speed, and overbank might still scare some kids off it. I know it wouldve done that to me before I conquered my fear of roller coasters. But also simply as a penguin themed family coaster, I honestly think a ride like Polar-X plorer at Legoland Billund is much better as a penguin themed coaster. Heck it doesnt have a penguin exhibit anymore but when it did, you could look into it while your train was at the brake run.
I think Intamin will make more launch and Hypers
What's with new B&M coasters having a rattle? 🤔
They should’ve put the B&M family invert here instead of either BGT/W
Are you guys going to phoenix rising media day?
we cannot, we are currently in Europe and won't be back till the end of the month
@@CoasterStudios oof that sucks
Once again, there’s non-locker compartments on ice breaker
usually that is for smaller items, not full sized backpacks
They definelty keep an eye on that locker. Only for hats or glasses
“The only thing I can compare it to is lightning rods old launch” smh in hyper space mountain 💀
the only reason I didn't say that is because you start on the incline at a complete stop, vs lightning rod is a rolling launch starting on a flat section of track
@@CoasterStudios fair point but if that’s the case then another alight comparison would be wicked since you start flat before going to the vertical launch. Even though the launch is vertical a similar concept. Just saying
penguin trek or darkoaster?
"Average run of the mill family coaster" and proceeds to cut to Viking at Energylandia... 😂 Please dear god put a trigger warning before showing that ride. I have unresolved trauma from how much that thing hurt!
Apparently nemesis reborn has a bit of a rattle as well. Very concerning.
Why are most new coasters rattling . Its so weird . I rode nemesis the year they closed it before the retrack and i can honestly say that was glass smooth conpared to nemesis reborn .
Same for the new wing coaster at chessington , thats genuinely rough .
Hyperia has already got a rartle aswell .
The old 90s b&m's where so much better quality
Just got off, I really enjoyed the effort put into station and queue but I have a few gripes.
1) The rattle on those turns were definitely noticeable in almost every row. I even heard GP on all 3 rides I got on it, complaining about it being shaky and noisy.
2) The 2nd half of the dark ride section has a big section where I thought some more theming could’ve been invested, specifically on the left hand side. It’s just total empty dark space. Same goes for outside theming along the coaster layout.
3) The exit… The exit… The exit… what an absolute nightmare. Traversing through the old EOTP queue with labeled exit doors blocked and forced to go through 2 more penguin exhibits after the ride?? Total miss. It was a maze leaving the ride for me and several others. I even had a guy make a joke about just taking the emergency exit out lol.
Otherwise great addition to SWO’s lineup but set back by typical United Parks budgeting and operations.
Unfortunately Vekoma too over time is the same way with rattles, Cosmic Rewind at Epcot is a perfect example, it has a bad shake in the last car on that ride now and it is only 3 years old, and all the different trains have that same bad shake and rattle
Just reminding you that you think Velocicoaster is smooth😡😡😡😡😡😡 10:00
Hold up u mean the Antarctic right?
Didn’t feel any rattle.
B&M is going to have to do a lot if they want to stay alive with competitors that offer cheaper and better rides, and it's reasonable to assume that B&M might go under within the next 10 years
To many issues with their new models. Terrible rattle on pipeline with the top heavy trains not connected to eachother, who know when someone will want that type or coaster and now this coaster issue to deal with.
Why is Candymonium smooth but Orion is not
I love the helix and the first launch but everything else is mid
5/10
Sup
B&M is turning into Boeing now
Wow another shaky B&M coaster 😂
Idk why all the new b&m's have a smoothness issue. Watching all the reverse povs, Iron menace's rattle is absolutely unacceptable. While this "rattle" is nothing but a slight shake, both iron menace and this have a jolt in their layouts, and this is way slower, so my guess is severe manufacturing issues/defects on behalf of Clermont steel where they build the track. Regardless, both Clermont and b&m need to fix themselves up bc without their trademark smoothness b&m wont survive in this market
Holy cow i just wrote an entire essay about roller coasters
This and Phoenix Rising are absolute trash we tried front and back on Penguin Trek and the rattle is horrible and it's so bad on Phoenix Rising that it made me nauseous. Having just ridden Big Bear and Dragonflyer a couple of days earlier, I have to say that SeaWorld and Busch Gardens made a huge mistake purchasing these from B&M. The smell and being forced into the penguin room after this ride is really stupid on a busy day.
It’s a shame that a brand new 2024 ride has more restrictive restraints than older models from the same manufacturer.
Seems like we’re going in reverse in terms of innovation and allowing all kinds of riders to enjoy these attractions.
B and m loves building coasters you cant feel anything on
I mean it is a family coaster
Please watch “Blackfish.” SEAWORLD should’ve been shut down decades ago. Their ongoing torture of sentient beings is criminal. When I saw this story, I became frightened. As long as SEAWORLD exists, marine animals will perish under their care. Send their captives to sanctuaries. Boycott SEAWORLD. Thank you.
B&M quality falling fast