Being a Baby Boomer, I grew up in a community with black people from the Islands and most of my friends, mother or father were from different places in the Caribbean. My stepfather was from St. Kitts. We were together, It was when we had to move out of the neighborhood due to a housing development being constructed in our neighborhood, we all scattered to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and upper Manhattan. Our parents used to get together once a year at a dance. But as they died off all of that stopped. But now we must come together as Diasporans. Love you all conversation. We had a lot of skills when we came here and sharpened them when we got where. A lot of inventions, that made life more comfortable here were made by Foundational Black Americans. Love You All
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The diaspora division did not start in college. Ask black immigrants what they are told about FBA by ICE when they first come here. Ask them. Those agents teach them bad things about FBA.
The F are you talking about? Stop making up reasons to be racist to other black people. This is one of the lamest things people try and do. Y'all are no different than the women who go to college and suddenly think all men are evil. You're literally doing the same exact thing and somehow thinking you're unique. Why don't you stop with the straw man and tell us what you think ICE is saying, and then tell me why anyone would believe the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT who people not born in America are far more willing to see in a negative light than people who were born in America. I don't even think that you realize that you admit to jumping to a conclusion. Make it make sense.
Right we done with that people of color mess it lumps multiple groups into one ignoring cultural differences as a foundational black american I dont want to be lumped in because it erases our struggle and ascribes it to people who have nothing to do with our history on this soil
@@Nickelniner09 Absolutely. People of Color does lump people with different histories into one group. Knowing that no one group is a monolith, this is why we shared this 13th of the Month session so that we could engage in the different stories of our respective groups. We are looking forward to continuing the conversation in the future and hope you will join.
This is a gendered comment which implies that only certain genders can tell the stories of their people. Such a comment is not consistent with liberation. However, to each his - or her - or their - own.
Black immigrants have always been in this country. WEB Dubois is Haitian descendant. I feel FBA has erased the contributions of Black immigrants to the struggle.
FBA hasn’t erased the contributions of black immigrants to the struggle at all. The problem is that those handful of black immigrants that contributed to the struggle are outnumbered by black immigrants that come here to work against FBA.
Well I know that black immigrants have a different experience than descendants of enslaved black Americans. They envelope the narrative of white Americans that black Americans are bad, ghetto. Etc. I don't share ANYTHING WITH OTHER AFRICAN PEOPLE. That's disrespectful to MY ANCESTORS THAT EXPERIENCED SLAVERY, JIM CROW, CIVIL RIGHTS, ETC! What's what with DESCENDANTS OF ENSLAVED BLACK AMERICANS! There's NO WAY I would go to Africa and think just because I'm black, I share their history! That's disrespectful to THEIR HISTORY! We're NOT THE SAME!
This is exactly it. If you look hard enough you will find these FBA people being just as racist as white people. Just look at how many were spreading the Haitians eat your pets nonsense before that was found out to be an obvious lie. I'm tired of the rheoric. I've always been a fan of letting actions speak for yourselves and the FBA community seems to only care about themselves and F everybody else. Somehow the black people that came from elsewhere to fight are only a handful. What good do y'all even do? You guys haven't been able to get the US to stop targeting Haiti for over 200 years. Now that I think about it, what exactly are any of you trying to get done? The only political position I've ever heard from you guys is reparations which shows how much you don't understand the country you happen to be born in. America will gladly do social things that don't cost them money. You guys ever going to fight against the reverse reparations that Haitians have been paying for over 2 centuries? No. You only care about reparations for yourselves. Everybody else should burn, but they should also help you get reparations. You guys are an incoherent movement. I would be surprised if more than a minority of the black people living in the US even knew you existed.
Being a Baby Boomer, I grew up in a community with black people from the Islands and most of my friends, mother or father were from different places in the Caribbean. My stepfather was from St. Kitts. We were together, It was when we had to move out of the neighborhood due to a housing development being constructed in our neighborhood, we all scattered to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and upper Manhattan. Our parents used to get together once a year at a dance. But as they died off all of that stopped. But now we must come together as Diasporans. Love you all conversation. We had a lot of skills when we came here and sharpened them when we got where. A lot of inventions, that made life more comfortable here were made by Foundational Black Americans. Love You All
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Wonderful discussion! I wish there was more nuance for children of black immigrants who are Americanized
They just continue to act like we don't exist and reuse racist tropes to constantly attack us.
The diaspora division did not start in college. Ask black immigrants what they are told about FBA by ICE when they first come here. Ask them. Those agents teach them bad things about FBA.
The F are you talking about? Stop making up reasons to be racist to other black people. This is one of the lamest things people try and do. Y'all are no different than the women who go to college and suddenly think all men are evil. You're literally doing the same exact thing and somehow thinking you're unique. Why don't you stop with the straw man and tell us what you think ICE is saying, and then tell me why anyone would believe the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT who people not born in America are far more willing to see in a negative light than people who were born in America. I don't even think that you realize that you admit to jumping to a conclusion. Make it make sense.
Non-Black Folk of Color? What do you mean? B1
Right we done with that people of color mess it lumps multiple groups into one ignoring cultural differences as a foundational black american I dont want to be lumped in because it erases our struggle and ascribes it to people who have nothing to do with our history on this soil
@@Nickelniner09 Absolutely. People of Color does lump people with different histories into one group. Knowing that no one group is a monolith, this is why we shared this 13th of the Month session so that we could engage in the different stories of our respective groups. We are looking forward to continuing the conversation in the future and hope you will join.
Where is the real Caribbean man on this panel to tell the truth and dispel the nonesense im hearing about black Caribbean immigrants.
This is a gendered comment which implies that only certain genders can tell the stories of their people. Such a comment is not consistent with liberation. However, to each his - or her - or their - own.
Black immigrants have always been in this country. WEB Dubois is Haitian descendant. I feel FBA has erased the contributions of Black immigrants to the struggle.
FBA hasn’t erased the contributions of black immigrants to the struggle at all. The problem is that those handful of black immigrants that contributed to the struggle are outnumbered by black immigrants that come here to work against FBA.
Well I know that black immigrants have a different experience than descendants of enslaved black Americans. They envelope the narrative of white Americans that black Americans are bad, ghetto. Etc. I don't share ANYTHING WITH OTHER AFRICAN PEOPLE. That's disrespectful to MY ANCESTORS THAT EXPERIENCED SLAVERY, JIM CROW, CIVIL RIGHTS, ETC! What's what with DESCENDANTS OF ENSLAVED BLACK AMERICANS! There's NO WAY I would go to Africa and think just because I'm black, I share their history! That's disrespectful to THEIR HISTORY! We're NOT THE SAME!
Yall havent always been anywhere. Stop the lying. Over the last 40 years yall have been fleeing from your homelands.
This is exactly it. If you look hard enough you will find these FBA people being just as racist as white people. Just look at how many were spreading the Haitians eat your pets nonsense before that was found out to be an obvious lie. I'm tired of the rheoric. I've always been a fan of letting actions speak for yourselves and the FBA community seems to only care about themselves and F everybody else. Somehow the black people that came from elsewhere to fight are only a handful. What good do y'all even do? You guys haven't been able to get the US to stop targeting Haiti for over 200 years. Now that I think about it, what exactly are any of you trying to get done? The only political position I've ever heard from you guys is reparations which shows how much you don't understand the country you happen to be born in. America will gladly do social things that don't cost them money. You guys ever going to fight against the reverse reparations that Haitians have been paying for over 2 centuries? No. You only care about reparations for yourselves. Everybody else should burn, but they should also help you get reparations. You guys are an incoherent movement. I would be surprised if more than a minority of the black people living in the US even knew you existed.