Is South Africa EXPENSIVE💰😱? Cost of LIVING in 2021

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  • @Mr_M_Ben
    @Mr_M_Ben 2 роки тому +20

    £550 a month for rent. Compared to London, that’s a bloody bargain. Packs bag, catches flight to SA

    • @shisuiuchiha480
      @shisuiuchiha480 2 роки тому +5

      We are still a developing nation so you might wanna rethink that decision.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +3

      London is crazy expensive😥. See you in Cape Town soon!

    • @nunewsmama3461
      @nunewsmama3461 2 роки тому

      That's expensive, I could get you a two bedroom, two bathroom place for 8000 ZAR.

    • @chantefourie4768
      @chantefourie4768 2 роки тому +3

      R and £ are two different things in R that is alot our petrol and diesel and food prices are insane

    • @Mr_M_Ben
      @Mr_M_Ben 2 роки тому +1

      @@chantefourie4768 £1.50p a litre for fuel at the moment of here.

  • @naziemjohnson1626
    @naziemjohnson1626 2 роки тому +16

    I am South African and I have been living in Indonesia for a few years. Back home in South Africa at the moment and I can really say it is much more expensive to live in South Africa than Indonesia. Enjoy watching your channel guys and also proud of you guys.

    • @nunewsmama3461
      @nunewsmama3461 2 роки тому +1

      Yes SA cost of living has gone through the roof. But if you deal in dollars or pounds SA is not a bad place to live.

  • @aliashat6038
    @aliashat6038 2 роки тому +11

    I agree that food in South Africa is cheaper than in Indonesia because I have proven it. I am Indonesian, and on Christmas 2013, I was in Nelspruit; foods in restaurants and agricultural products in supermarkets were much cheaper than in Indonesia.

  • @lozannevanniekerk5489
    @lozannevanniekerk5489 2 роки тому +3

    If you earn a salary of R45 000 per month you can live in Johannesburg the upmarket areas Centurion , Midrand , Sandton. Fourways lonehill near Montecasino good areas. Nice estates

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому +1

      That's about $2,500? Might I live 3 months of the Northern hemisphere winter and celebrate New Years outside the U.S. something to contemplating. Thus far I've traveled through the western hemisphere Latin America and the Caribbean. This covid19 situation has delayed my travels across the ocean. I DID however after loosing my job get a different job unrelated to what I was doing before. And pays slightly better. Granted I'm saving up. As I hope to do more travels before I'm 40. I'm 36 now. Never been married no kids. Just think 2025/2026 I'm thinking do I want to spend New Years elsewhere.. as my past travels were oftentimes done in the northern hemisphere summer months. Well currently is when I make my money. I live in Florida full-time but 1/2 the year I'm working up in Alaska. That's my primary job. Granted well despite a run down of my life in recent past.. I can say I'd still contemplate opting for cheap places in South Africa. However what you've described is in reach.. You've given me something to think about

  • @indonesianstudent88
    @indonesianstudent88 2 роки тому +24

    I would really love to visit South Africa one day. Sounds like a very interesting place! Greetings from Indonesia!

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +2

      Come come come! Makasihhh😊

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire so would I I'm U.S. as The acomadation are cheap by U.S. Canadian or European standards. And you have the up scale ones. So I have 2 questions #1 do they have places for as low as $10/ night like I had in Central and South America?? ( yes I do realize they wouldn't be glamorous) but do they exist outside the tourist places? And #2 I am guessing that the payphones in South Africa are almost gone??? Am I correct in thinking they'll only be around the airport the bus. station and maybe a shopping center if you're lucky might still have 1 left?? I'm guessing that's the case also... AND I'll say I've witnessed only 3 people use the payphone in the past year and 2 of them were the Amish.. no surprise I guess.. However I am 36 I remember when long distance call from the house phone were $6/ hour. That's pretty much a dull point now.. As I just can't understand why you buy a phone pay the bill yet it doesn't work all over the world. Mine $60/ month. Works in the U.S. and Canada. I don't think my phone would even work in South Africa but if I did I would probably cost me like 25 cents/ minute. So that's like $15/ hour added to my bill.. IF it would even work in the 1st place. I'd hope before 2030 a phone from anywhere will work anywhere for 1 set price. $50 €50 R 800. Phones to work everywhere. Because honestly if they don't I might as well be calling from the house phone as I did as a kid from the standpoint extra money is being charged calling outside the local city. Sorry to be so long and drug out with these questions. I'm just trying to get a good analysis

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire I will also say as a side note I worked at a large shopping mall 2017 until this covid19 situation. The place was built back in 1983.. they had about 2 dozen payphones back then. When I worked thier 1 was left by the security office. And the rest were made into supply closets. Ya open this up get cleaning supplies. Oh thier use to be a payphone here. Well now it's a closets to get supplies.. go figure.. So ya payphones are almost gone in the U.S. but a few are still around

  • @JennandLeon
    @JennandLeon 2 роки тому +7

    Awesome video guys thanks for sharing - great collaboration with Cambly - nice!

  • @leyafamily3449
    @leyafamily3449 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you ! I currently work from home and was looking into cambly and also visiting SA in July

  • @Jorcus
    @Jorcus 2 роки тому +5

    That's great! If you want to get more exposure, you can share this video to our digital nomad community too!

  • @costasworldofmusicmemories5792
    @costasworldofmusicmemories5792 2 роки тому +9

    So looking forward to your Capetown and Johannesburg vlogs. I guessed the cost of living at $1600 a month. Claire, i hope you're feeling better. 😁 South Africa is on our bucket list. Thanks for the
    many tips and suggestions. Sending you lots of love. Happy Holidays!! 🎁💖🎁💖 from Harriet and Jim . Richmond, Va.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      Happy Holidays you two!❤️❤️

    • @costasworldofmusicmemories5792
      @costasworldofmusicmemories5792 2 роки тому +2

      I have some people who will sign for Cambly. I forwarded your info. Thanks. Claire and Rhett

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      @@costasworldofmusicmemories5792 great stuff! Thank youuuu😁

  • @lozannevanniekerk5489
    @lozannevanniekerk5489 2 роки тому +1

    Living in a hotel , complex ,estate or bed and breakfast are safe it's nice if you can get breakfast included

  • @ca9968
    @ca9968 2 роки тому +2

    SA has gotten rediculously expensive though...I left 8 years ago and went back last year for a funeral, I was shocked at how high prices for just basic things had gone up...

  • @jombadumajombaduma4
    @jombadumajombaduma4 2 роки тому +6

    Nice video guys. I'm from SA but living in the UK at the moment. It's still cheaper than the UK. I think cost of living has gone up throughout the globe. In the UK we are now paying 30% more on fuel compare to the same period last year. Not to mention food, gas, electricity prices which have gone through the roof over the recent months. If you are on the low income you are definitely screwed.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +4

      My goodness, it’s the same here. Electricity is set to go up by 20% next month, but there’s load shedding here all the time😭. What is going on in the world?!

    • @jombadumajombaduma4
      @jombadumajombaduma4 2 роки тому +3

      Crazy times really!

  • @PastorAdelinodesousa
    @PastorAdelinodesousa 2 роки тому +3

    I would like to visit South Africa again. It's been 40 years since i lived their. My concern is safety. Otherwise I would have gone earlier.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      Cape Town is pretty darn safe, can’t say the same for Johannesburg though😢

    • @PastorAdelinodesousa
      @PastorAdelinodesousa 2 роки тому +2

      @@RhettandClaire I lived in Cape town in Bothasig,& Monte vista. Left in 1982.

  • @terrimeyer3815
    @terrimeyer3815 2 роки тому +1

    I think you spot on. Average comfortable living in SA is 30k pm for 2 or 3 people. We trying to get it down but then you compromise where you live and security

  • @Danygotaworldtosee
    @Danygotaworldtosee 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome insight :D Gives a nice idea of how life there could look like

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      And we haven’t even shown the best parts yet😱😍

  • @abdullahhakan1
    @abdullahhakan1 Рік тому

    Barber cost for man is 100 TL per haircut. Best places to pass your holidays in Turkey are Kemer Antalya, Side Manavgat Antalya, Kusadasi Guzelcamli , Pamucak 5 star hotels of İzmir Aydin, Selcuk city of İzmir. Edremit Ayvalik Akcay Balikesir, Samsun Sheraton Hotel, Bodrum Mugla , Fethiye Mugla. Turkey has built 600 water dams and many solar energies to get energy. No energy cuts can be seen while in Turkey. No visas needed from South Africans while in Turkey 30 days holiday. Roads are at best standards right now. There is no nuclear facility in Turkey, very envionment friendly country. Most advanced places of Turkey are trachian side of the country with Beylikduzu, Esenyurt, Bahcesehir , Basaksehir, Avcilar districts of Istanbul nearby the Greece , just 250 kms to the greek customs, Corlu, Tekirdag, Silivri, Marmara Ereglisi, Gelibolu, İtalian Plage Seashore

  • @Premilla79
    @Premilla79 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. Your Cambly insert is excellent. I am going to check it out.

  • @TsarEventsDMC
    @TsarEventsDMC 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for wonderful video! It is really interesting & motivating for travel. Cannot wait when all of us start easily travel again! xx

  • @silverfox2957
    @silverfox2957 Рік тому

    I didn't think it would be so expensive thanks for sharing.

  • @mochammadariqatillah2000an
    @mochammadariqatillah2000an 2 роки тому +5

    I am glad to see you again. Nice view for south Africa. I think this is nice information.

  • @mandymoila9557
    @mandymoila9557 2 роки тому +1

    Other provinces are more expensive than others. Eg western cape, gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal

  • @FTW22
    @FTW22 Рік тому

    I actually 1800 usd is a good price for 2 people in south Africa. Atm we are a family of 3 paying around 3100 usd in South Africa monthly

  • @timandfin
    @timandfin 2 роки тому

    Wowww the shot of the windsurfers is gorgeous!!

  • @theostanley2239
    @theostanley2239 2 роки тому +3

    Shocked that you did not cover Durban. Studies there and Cape Town and think it is far better than Cape Town or Johannesburg, in my humble view…

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      We haven’t stayed in Durban as digital nomads yet😊

    • @Tebstechpodcast
      @Tebstechpodcast 2 роки тому

      Yes Durban is cheaper compare to JHB or CPT

    • @citoahk2500
      @citoahk2500 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire you Should😋🤷‍♂️😁

  • @BeingBedingfield
    @BeingBedingfield 2 роки тому +6

    Very interesting video, South Africa is quite expensive actually 🙈

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +2

      Right? It’s affordable for foreigners but too expensive for locals🙈

    • @hloniphile1396
      @hloniphile1396 2 роки тому +1

      Trust me is not ❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @katemcgrath273
      @katemcgrath273 2 роки тому +1

      Live in Australia, it’s worse 😂

  • @dillonogara9605
    @dillonogara9605 2 роки тому +2

    I've definitley missed you guys! Sorry I haven't been active on youtube for a while, but at least now I have a lot of viodes to catch up on :P

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      We’ve missed your comments Dillon!😭

  • @kkjohannes7742
    @kkjohannes7742 2 роки тому +2

    Nice share, Will be waiting for cape town video 😁👍 thanks

  • @michaelgordon3241
    @michaelgordon3241 2 місяці тому

    What about the taxation? Yes its cheaper but taxation can be up to 45%. Does that end up negating the savings? (If youre making R89k to R198k/month)

  • @theledidynasty
    @theledidynasty 2 роки тому +3

    You guys are the best.

  • @urfavchickenlegs8797
    @urfavchickenlegs8797 2 роки тому +1

    14:16 damn i thought i was seeing an indonesian flag there, but then i zoomed in and found out that it was actually a netherland flag which made me somewhat mad cause netherland was indonesia's colonizer for 350 years 😒
    fun fact tho, indonesian flag was red and white, cause the heroes back then climb up the flag pool of the netherland's flag to tear off the blue part of it, and voila we got our red and white indonesian flag. and fyi in the process of tearing off the blue part of the netherland's flag, the indonesian heroes were shot by the netherland soldiers while climbing up the flag pool, so imagine how many indonesians were shot just to fight for our national flag 😭

  • @sabrinamadison8769
    @sabrinamadison8769 Рік тому

    Wow.thank you both for all the great info

  • @ninja.teacher
    @ninja.teacher 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, I'm out of touch with SA living expenses but this is more than I expected.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      Same for us! Most of our friends said that our expenses were very low compared to them though😱

  • @eugenejustin8487
    @eugenejustin8487 2 роки тому +5

    Next destination must be Nelspruit please

  • @mandylee273
    @mandylee273 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing video guys. Very interesting info ❤👍

  • @kyeh4551
    @kyeh4551 2 роки тому +1

    Digital nomads, interesting idea if no younger children and dependent on your line of work

  • @dofdestiny10
    @dofdestiny10 Рік тому

    Lovely video, any plans of creating one for 2023? .....now 2024?

  • @Desire123ification
    @Desire123ification 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent Video! 👍

  • @bongisgroove6133
    @bongisgroove6133 2 роки тому

    Hi I’m South African and I’m watching from New York .. it’s hard to believe that entertainment only cost you “R1.150 for the month “ .

  • @fansmilitan2701
    @fansmilitan2701 2 роки тому +2

    I think why the cost of eating is higher in Bali than South Africa, because you are a resident of South Africa and when you are in Bali, you will definitely want to try various foods there ( this is about the number of variations of your food per month ), thank you for sharing the info with us 😊

  • @darthpapa696
    @darthpapa696 2 роки тому +5

    is it safe there? From what i read. SA is quite dangerous.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +7

      Yes, Cape Town is totally safe. The local government invest a lot into the safety of tourists and residents in Cape Town. Johannesburg is starting to get a bit dangerous now because of the pandemic but it really really does depend on which areas you’re in.😊

    • @eugene2928
      @eugene2928 2 роки тому +12

      Yes, SA is safe.. There is a bit of crime like all other countries.. Don't believe everything you read on the media

    • @thabanimahlaba9769
      @thabanimahlaba9769 2 роки тому +8

      This question is so out there Europe and America are also very unsafe but you never here are they safe when traveling there I wonder why that is😑

    • @chendaforest
      @chendaforest 2 роки тому

      @@thabanimahlaba9769 crime is overall much lower in Europe and the US. South Africa is great but it requires a different way of living.

  • @lozannevanniekerk5489
    @lozannevanniekerk5489 2 роки тому +1

    Prices are 100% correct

  • @Glam55-CPT
    @Glam55-CPT 2 роки тому

    Wow just discovered your channel and I love it!!! I'm from Cape Town ♥️♥️♥️

  • @lilley883
    @lilley883 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a South African living in Chile with a TEFL certificate. Is Cambly specifically for South Africa or do they recruit from anywhere?

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      They recruit from anywhere☺️

    • @lilley883
      @lilley883 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire thank you

  • @Van_Wilder
    @Van_Wilder 2 роки тому

    Very informative. Am I right in that I recognize my old complex in Melrose Estate? 😂

  • @carlgharis7948
    @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому

    I'm guessing they payphones in South Africa are like in the U.S. almost gone except at the airport and transit centers. Is that correct??

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      Correct😊. We use WhatsApp on our phones to make international calls

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire well my internet doesn't work if my phone doesn't. I have 3 friends of that thing. 1 in the U.S. 1 in Jamaica and 1 in the Domican Republic. I can also call people on the Facebook messenger. Which a couple of my European friends I do. I've directly called Portugal twice. Called him on his mother's house phone. That cost me 25 cents/ minute. But if I have no phone then I have no internet either. As so I can't make or receive calls of any kind. Think about this.. if you're standing next to me in the same room in the U.S. I call you.. it cost 25 cents a minute. ( Granted that's assuming your phone will even be able to except the call) if not still cost me 25 cents for your voice-mail to pick up. And we're standing next to each other in the same room.. Now I call my sister several states away whether we talk for 2 minutes or we talk for 2 days straight until we both fall over from sleep depervation it's still the same price. Just pay my $60/ month phone bill.. When I lay it out that way.. that makes absolutely no damn sense. You pay the phone bill you expect to be able to use the phone right???. I HOPE that will be the case very soon. Like before 2025... I mean who cares if I'm in the U.S. South Africa France.. ware ever I'm paying the phone bill to have a phone... and yet is that such the case. And as mentioned if this were 1995 it would cost me $6/ hour to call another U.S. state on a house phone. However it's not 1995 it's 2022. I guess thors of us old enough to remember that.. are really saying... okay.... why??? Most everyone has a cell phone now. Cool I can call the U.S. and Canada.. I paid the bill.. well then why the hell should I pay another bill if I'm anywhere elsewhere????? It's not 1995. The phone is carried with me. Not plugged into the wall at the house. However unfortunately if I am to travel international with the exception of Canada it might as well be... As let's hope that's no longer the case within the next 3 years

    • @carlgharis7948
      @carlgharis7948 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire and I'm 36. So I'm not really that old. The last generation to grow up before cell phones came into everybody's life. And the way I perceived it as I explained is what good are they really if they are next to useless when you go international???. I mean I know how to buy a calling card and use it from a payphone or land-line. Granted only a select few places sell thoes types of calling cards anymore. And once you do get one. Better find somebody's home or a place of business that will let you use their land line if you can't find a payphone. Oh that's right.. you have a hard time finding a payphone anymore.... um... ya you might as well not even have a cell phone in the 1st place if it's not a working cell phone.. so if the world has come to nearly everybody having a cell phone. Then it needs to come to people having a cell phone that will work.. we as society of plant earth need to get that taken care of.

  • @revealednew
    @revealednew 2 роки тому +4

    though i believe you eat like a king on bali with $699 than $609 on SA 🤣.

  • @ayabukwamgqaliso4453
    @ayabukwamgqaliso4453 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like you guys are living way too affordably

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      For sure. If you live in South Africa full time paying for a car, insurance, medical aid, rent, electricity etc it’s way more expensive🙈

  • @f.schlicker5989
    @f.schlicker5989 2 роки тому +1

    Is the total for you both together or one person? :)

  • @donmeow
    @donmeow 2 роки тому +4

    Any chance of an Eastern Cape video soon?

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      We’d love that! Any ideas on where we should visit?😁

    • @donmeow
      @donmeow 2 роки тому +1

      @@RhettandClaire Perhaps the Wild Coast, Coffee Bay, Knysna? Or even some of the rumoured hippie enclaves out there which we always hear about but rarely see footage of.
      I'm a Pretorian thats never been to the EC so your footage would likely inform my decision on where to go over there during 2022.

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      @@donmeow we’ll put a trip together soon. Thank you bru!😁

    • @Lessiie_
      @Lessiie_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@donmeow I'm from the Eastern Cape, there are so many hidden gems. Like Imbotyi, Port St John's etc..

  • @TravSpringer
    @TravSpringer 2 роки тому +3

    Choose Cape Town 😉✅

  • @zanrichvorster9934
    @zanrichvorster9934 2 роки тому +1

    I live in Kempton Park

  • @moep737
    @moep737 2 роки тому +1

    That's a month's rent in NYC 😮

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      I know right😂

    • @moep737
      @moep737 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire I'm praying my guy and I can move there by next year 🙏🏼

  • @Banele808
    @Banele808 2 роки тому +3

    R20000 per month

    • @albertvanlingen7590
      @albertvanlingen7590 2 роки тому

      Less than that and you will start to struggle to maintain a normal standard of life in South Africa 🇿🇦. I live in Pretoria just north of Johannesburg.

    • @albertvanlingen7590
      @albertvanlingen7590 2 роки тому

      @@DAVID1986. yes. Less than that and you will not be able to afford you're own car and pay rent.

  • @itsIVLEAGUE
    @itsIVLEAGUE 2 роки тому

    South Africa's currency is weak the cost of living is so expensive cloths and takkies or a phone can cost your entire pay check for just 1 of those items 1 American dollar is R18 1 pound is R23+ foreigners can come to our country and take advantage with thier strong currency

  • @luistronik9787
    @luistronik9787 2 роки тому

    Ok All good but You need to make Video that why You say All is good

  • @dollardog3711
    @dollardog3711 2 роки тому

    What missing here is legal items around tax law if you living in South Africa and earning an income then you subjected to tax in South Africa. It would be good for you to produce a video segment on how you handle tax law across multiple countries as you work given you compare Bali vs SA.

  • @Awarebynature
    @Awarebynature Рік тому

    This just feel like one big advert

  • @chiyopipi5672
    @chiyopipi5672 2 роки тому

    Are you not making anymore Bali content?

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      We are😊

    • @chiyopipi5672
      @chiyopipi5672 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire can you please tell me what type of Visa you have? I can’t seem to visit Bali with a tourist visa anymore

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      @@chiyopipi5672 there are no tourist visas. You have to get a B211 business visa or a Kitas😊

  • @guitaracoustic6593
    @guitaracoustic6593 2 роки тому +2

    Nice ...

  • @jkalema1679
    @jkalema1679 2 роки тому

    Cheaper than US!

  • @vickyesposito8472
    @vickyesposito8472 Рік тому

    550.

  • @paintingwiththestars
    @paintingwiththestars 2 роки тому

    where's the comparisons?

  • @wawang8784
    @wawang8784 2 роки тому +1

    Hallo Iam from INA

  • @yhunksasaki2775
    @yhunksasaki2775 2 роки тому +2

    Mantap

  • @munesumangava9751
    @munesumangava9751 2 роки тому +1

    Virginia Active👍👍👍👍👌

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому

      Is that the gym you use?😁

    • @munesumangava9751
      @munesumangava9751 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire it's been the most recommended when I visit SA!

  • @janskolovsky8903
    @janskolovsky8903 2 роки тому +1

    😎😎 keren

  • @bram992
    @bram992 2 роки тому +2

    Is it any safe for non whites

    • @RhettandClaire
      @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, but women have a hard time regardless of their race. It just depends on which part of the country you’re in

    • @bram992
      @bram992 2 роки тому

      @@RhettandClaire ok
      Tks

  • @Van66696
    @Van66696 2 роки тому

    expensive

  • @morenakhaya655
    @morenakhaya655 2 роки тому

    🤣Neva da West is crazy

  • @RhettandClaire
    @RhettandClaire  2 роки тому +11

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  • @Premilla79
    @Premilla79 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. Your Cambly insert is excellent. I am going to check it out.