The Two Kinds of Photographers...
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This week me and my camera get very wet, and also make a very silly mistake. I'm out in Snowdonia again taking photos early in the morning, and I discuss what I think are the two kinds of photographers.
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When I go fishing we always say:”Fish are a bonus!” It’s the same with my photography: “An epic photo today is a bonus!” Just being out is truly awesome!
You've no idea how comforting it is to see that even a professional can cock things up. Helps me to put my catalogue of photography disasters in perspective.
Another cracking lesson - thanks again...
This right here
100%
Nobody becomes experienced by making no mistakes, after all.
I'm definitely in group 1. My camera, or my bike is a great excuse to get out there and enjoy the great outdoors.
100%, I'll even toss my nifty 50 on my Rebel T6 when I go for a bikeride just to get some shots as I go, both are great hobbies
@@UNSCPILOT A perk of your neat little combo is that you can abuse it a little because these are cheap (but capable) gear.
I just want to say thank you for inspiring me to deepen my passion for photography, to really invest my time in getting better in every aspect. I’ve seen huge leaps in my shots recently
"Nature Photographer Who Doesn't Know Plant Names" is a mood
I'm a type 1 90% of the time. I often take my camera out and get very few shots I like, but I've enjoyed a good walk and the fresh air!
finding the balance of actually hiking and taking photos, is the key.
I go out with the intent to take photos and come back glad I just got to be outdoors.
Over the years I have finally reached a point that I can shrug off missed situations. For example, at a beach I frequent once or twice a year was entrenched in fog and I found a nice minimalist composition. While I was cleaning the mist off my glasses, I watched five blobs low to the ground fly across my scene honking as they went by. Well at least I knew the blobs were geese since they announced it. No picture but I did get a good laugh. 😁
I deffinitly find with just a simple prime like my Nifty 50 (my only prime) and running it in Apature mode I can get plenty of "shots of opportunity" without much fuss or indecisiveness, also makes the Camera silly lite so I can have one hand on it most of the time, having to fight a heavier or more complex lens deffinitly eats into the fun a bit.
But I agree, even if I only get a couple shots, a good walk is always worth it
Hilarious to watch your revelation and always refreshing to see the human side of professional photography! Thanks for being so open and so educational.
I used to get in my car and just drive and drive, stopping occasionally to shoot something out the window. I used to go to a state park in Kentucky simply because they had buffalo there. I rarely walk a trail. And yet, I used to get photos that I was really proud of. I wish I could get myself back out there because I do love nature, just not the walking (or the driving) anymore. At 68, the knees are shot. So I'll just enjoy watching you!
Consider getting a drone if you can. It'll save you miles of walking and could help you still take photos if you'd like.
Actually, I loved your first mist shot with the view of the tree appearing out of the mist. This even though the sky wasn't dramatic.
Bucket one as well. I go for hikes/walks and just bring my camera. Though I want to practice going out for specific shots more. :)
I'll often bring my camera along on bikerides, that added range can let me get to many more varied spots to shoot at/from even if I don't stay to far from the road.
Then again I'm out in a small city in the Canadian boonies here in BC with only modest traffic and lots of mountain roads that challenge even my E-Bike, so your mileage may vary
I continue to be amazed and envious that you can walk through woods, with a road even, and not encounter another human. I've never been anywhere like that. I haven't even been in "woods," but if I had there'd be people (and vehicles) everywhere. Thanks for taking us along.
I fit in category 1, I have always gone in the woods every second I can since I was a kid and a camera just allows me to do something aside from walk, it makes me think, it makes me be more situationaly aware and it makes me slow down.
Lovely drone footage 👍
When a video is called something and he talks about it for two minutes... Classic James Popsys.
"man made things, people, buildings..." Yeah well, technically people are man made :D
...as recently evidenced in the Popsys household! ;o)
Women have been known to contribute too.
@@jeffpratley3623 Was thinking the same thing!.....he's just showing off!
Hooray for reproduction :D
100% in group 2. I have cameras to thank for not being indoors all the time 😂
You are such fun to watch! Thanks for bringing us along!
Can't wait to see what kind of magic you can make here in the states. I've been driving for 5 days taking pictures somewhere new every day and haven't left the lower 3rd of Missouri
I love that your weather forecast is always wrong. 😅😅
Western Red Cedar, Thuja plicata.... Just FYI..... Used in pencils (smell when sharpened) and top wood for mellow guitars
They say there are 2 types of people in the world. Those that divide people into groups and those who don't! Great video James.
I did a blog a few years ago about this kind of stuff. . . . . thanks for the reminder about the role expectations can play when we head out. . . .
The main lesson is that the grass is always greener on the other side, cause the mist saturates it 😁
I am sooo group two :/ specially bc i’m a bit out of shape and hiking gets so exhausting after an hour haha
Your humility is especially appreciated by schlub photographers such as myself. Thanks!
Definitely #2. Although when the trek to capture that decisive moment is unsuccessful, it oftentimes seems like more work than what its worth.
On the other hand, you can always turn disappointment into opportunity. Getting that wet road does make for an interesting change of feature.
I'm type 3: I love to wander around and take photos at any weather.
Yea I think I might fit in here under 3 too I was going to say 1 but then I saw your comment and said yes that's me too 😊
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and comments... As a hobbyist I just enjoy getting out & taking pics when ever I can as we are in 'lockdown' at the moment so difficult to travel far..I enjoyed your video & location & pics as well.. cheers from Australia 😀
Hello James. Thank you for keeping it real and posting your mistakes and disappoints. I really appreciate it. Now that I am retried, I plan to visit Wales where my father's family comes from. Do you have a video of where to go to photograph as a visitor?
Thanks
Garold
If you want to look at the same question from a slightly different angle, the two types of photographer that I think about a lot are: photographers who make functional works vs photographers who make art.
To explain it simply, to borrow your own language, a photographer who makes art takes photos "about something", where as a photographer who is making a "functional work" takes photos "of something".
The reasons I find this to be an important distinction:
1. IP law treats functional works differently than creative works.
2. There is generally a significant difference in price between the two.
Some people hire a photographer to plan, direct, shoot, edit, and deliver creative works of visual art, and they tend to pay a premium for that artistic endeavor. Other people hire a photographer to snap a bunch of photos to document an event or subject and just expect them to turn over a memory card full of un-edited JPEGs at the end of the session, and they're typically expecting to pay a lot less for a job they consider low-skill labor.
Combining these two points together, in the first case, the artist photographer generally retains the copyright on the photos they deliver. Where as the photographer who just hands over an memory card at the end of the session is typically creating a "work for hire" and the client owns the copyright (not the photographer).
Legally, there's a lot more nuance to this language and a lot of grey area that varies by what laws may exist in a given jurisdiction.
Socially, I think there is a problem that both of these categories describe very different activities which happen to share the exact same title: Photographer.
As a result, I've observed confusion and misunderstandings occur between photographers and clients who each made a different assumption about what "photographer" means in a given context.
Both types of photography are necessary and valid, but aside from sharing a name, they're really two completely different worlds that don't have a huge amount of overlap once you get beyond the equipment and the basic operation thereof.
I try always to take my ebike when shooting, or getting out. Helps me get around faster with limited amount of time with good light changing weather conditions and or to travel farther with less effort. As for 2 types of photographers. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Sometimes I go out to get the shot. Sometimes I get the shot while I am out enjoying my time out.
I am absolutely "Bucket 1". I love the outdoors and a camera is a great tool to document my adventures. I'm in the Pacific Northwest of the USA so your rain forecast missing the mark...yeh, I can relate, LOL. Great video BTW
Man and nature…a combination that has worked for many an artist.
Beautiful drone images/clips…that morning sun and mist is killer.
I love that drone shot at 12:20. Just love it..
While I love a good hike, it's almost always the prospect of shooting that gets me off the couch and out the door, so I guess that puts me in Group #2!
Some very nice misty shots James.
you have finally come to my point - nature and humans trails. I love the same, maybe without actually the people. Lack of people is much more interesting to shot since photographers shooting humans are quite a number.
thats a think I miss on the new lumix models its a tiny hardware to put in, only a couple of point and shoot cameras are included gps, its a great future for panasoic to put it in the new models.
Hello again James, Gerard Butler's younger, less grumpy brother!
I'm personally the type of photographer that goes somewhere to take a photo, if the trip happens to be a fun activity, that's a plus but it's not the focus at all. Even though for me, this is a hobby, not a job.
Also, the moment I subbed, I started getting your videos recommended several times a day, that's nice!
"You mist a shot", and that is good! ;)
He's Popsys, James Popsys... Grumpy James Popsys :)
Thanks for a great video and images. Your favourite drone shot is an absolute stunner. I love taking forestry path scenes too. Yes, in answer to your question - they are pine needles.
What are the trousers and walking boots you're wearing!?
I'm looking for a good pair of both 😌
jup - specially the rainy part of the video. As for bucket 1 or 2, I guess i’m in both, but the experience and overal joy when getting a shot is greater when I’m just out, so B1 ;-)
Thanks James for this video, your timing is always spot on as I’ve been trying to clarify my ideal audience to build an online community around and type 1 is definitely part of that 😀
it beats my job! stuck in constant traffic jams under pressure on the Midlands roads! hell on earth..... x
Love these kinds of videos. I feel so much more part of the process.
Thanks James, beautifully honest this is why I love your videos
Your mistake added soooo much great drama and reality to this week's video! haha great!
You're in great company, Mr. Popsys. I've done the same thing myself, numerous times. XD
Brilliant mate ! Kind of love the fact you don't mind showing how you cocked up the place for the epic shot,,,,I'm sure you'll have the shot sorted in no time and loved the the video as alwyays,,,
I’m a 2. I do like being outdoors, and I love mountain biking, but i hate hiking. 10/10 want to shoot, but I’m complaining in my head about how hard the journey is 😅
Definitely category 1 for me. It’s the reason I started a UA-cam channel, to make sure I can remember those experiences ✌🏻. Thanks yet again for the inspiration!
My new Saturday morning routine is make breakfast and watch the new vid. It's excellent
08:25 - Hi. Welcome to Jazz club, nice 👌🏼
you not worked out the welsh weather forecast yet? when it says the rain will stop it means it will be replaced with a different type of rain.
they call dry conditions 'indoors'
For me who is getting into photography because I need things to replace my Go pro and the dongles failed me... I am 100% the out for the photo as it's mostly my yard or house and of sunsets new things like tabel top mintures... The days I am out for the expernce I never have my Canon M50 MKII but only my Pixel 3 smart phone... Not bad when a photo does come out but It's more to capture the expernce while my Cannon I like to get artesy with.
You have some fabulous ferns (mainly Dryopteris I believe) along that road. For some reason a subject few photographers seem to be drawn to, to any great degree.
Funny you mention the ferns. I was recently in a botanical garden full of thousands of types of plants, and my primary obsession was with the ferns. They were amazing!
@@BethBuelow
Which garden was this? It sounds like my type of garden!
I have about 350 different types growing in my garden. They can easily become a bit of an obsession.
This channel just keeps getting better and better!
Nice watch mate I reckon Im an all rounder working in papers does that for ya the only time I get ratty is when I’m fishing love to be out there doing it but always feel like arse when I get water licked 😤
Great drone pics! Thanks for the longer video too, good content. You always seem to provide good ideas or different perspectives.
Happy Saturday
HAHAHA! Love the ” Wrong bend ”…
Good video. Got out yesterday for first time in a while due to weather being too hot where I'm at. There's a place I found overlooking a canyon cut by the Agua Fria River in Arizona, that I've been trying for a while to get a good shot of. Weather still wasn't cooperating this time either and I didn't get the shot I was hoping for. Was pretty down about it until a friend reminded me that I got out and had a lot of fun and maybe learned something. Like you say, it's all about having the right perspective.
How come you don't take the bike if you're on roads all day? On this occasions ou could have cycled to the other side of the valley in time for the mist. Still, thanks for the video - super inspirational as always.
My thoughts exactly. Although he did mention the hiking vs photography.
Thank you for posting the "mistake", you could have easily just not shown us. There are so many details to keep track of with photography, it was kind of you to show us you are only human!
Great video James. Love the images of the falling mist against the trees. Sometimes I feel during the rain it can be a nightmare but once the rain stops you can capture some magical results. I only have a few days left in isolation so once thats finished Im straight back out on location with somenew changes to my channel. Really well explained and always enjoy watching your content. Keep up the great work!
Video(s) about drone photography please 😁
Definitely group 1 for me, which is why I watch this and other similar channels.
I'm definitely part of the 2nd group (if I can). I'll do some research on the location and then have an idea of a shot and go out and hunt for it.
Gotta say, I'm not quite sure what the point of UA-cam's notification bell is. I watched this video this morning when I woke up, but just now got the notification of a new video that was posted 15 hours ago.
To comment on the video, I am in group 2, but I am happy that it gets me out, otherwise I'd just stay in more often than I should.
similar thing happened to me while trying to do a time lapse of a sunset.
I planed it out sun was setting behind me, golden light on the city in front of me looked beautiful.
Then some clouds rolled it and killed my light.
I could have turned around and changed subjects but I had already committed to
Hey this is actually a subject I'd love for you to develop on. I live in the Alps and would consider myself as the first person, taking photos is the secondary activity but of course taking quality photos is still important. To that point, it frustrates me carrying around a dslr with kit lens; it's far from practical when you need your hands and the strap mount doesn't particularly interest me. I'd love a video about how close a decent compact can get to the results of a dslr or mirrorless. Comparison vidéos do already exist of course, but they're all content creator YT rubbish so are as useful as a chocolate tea pot. Personally, so long as the image is good and editable I don't care for carrying 400g swappable lenses, so have been investigating cameras like the LX15, rx100/vii, the key being that they fit in a pocket, protect their own lens and open with a single hand
I don't get weather forecasts. Met Office is so off 101% of the time that it would actually miss the water if it fell out of a boat. Apple Weather is well... Accuweather is as useful as going outside and looking up. BBC weather is well... BBC.
Is this one any good?!
Always love the videos. Thanks
I'm definitely category one. That's why I'm taking pictures as a hobby and not professional.
Great video! I am mainly out for the experience of being out in nature with photography being a secondary part of the experience...but a fantastic secondary part! 😉 But I will occasionally go out with a specific photo in mind.
Cracking video as always....not sure why there's any thumbs down....what's not to like?!
First time viewer - beautiful work! Love your perspective.
I love how he just chats while chasing fog :)
If ever waffling becomes an olympic sport James, you will be a UK medal certainty. Entertaining as always.
Oops! Enjoyed the video as always.
love the photos you featured on this one
I think you need the new GoPro 10, I needed a barf bag :-( but I will let you off because those first few pictures were spectacular :-)
Thanks for posting a video showing that even pros make planning mistakes! I make them all the time lol
Also FWIW I love that drone shot!
Never mind James, your only human after all.
Thank goodness for the drone and it’s camera.
Stay safe James 🤣
Lovely shots as always James. There is something nice about being out in the rain during summer haha
The mist didn't come over your side..... because it mist.
I like to just be out. The camera is an extra reason for me to go out,and maybe i can then share the experience with someone. If you go out to just enjoy the views, you will be far less disappointed if you don't get any good photos, because all you got instead was memories.
I have tried both ways. I perfer just being out in nature and take my camera. Feel for me that i can capture more, because i concentrate more on nature,thus finding more interesting detail shots.
Fantastic video, What size of bag do you use ,as I am interested in downsizing and going light. for landscape photography.
Great video!
Beautiful
I really like the drone shot though! Beautiful image!
I've just taken up photography and come across your channel and find it interesting/helpful. It's a pretty expensive hobby, I bought the Nikon D5600 bundle (extra lense) with a little carry case and memory card. In total it cost just under a grand. I'd like a waterproof bag, is they one that you could recommend me? Also any lenses? I have an Instagram account just for my photos taken on my new camera if you'd like to see it? Maybe give a few pointers? I can link it if you'd like to see them?
Suprice! I did not Know You have any trees in England. Here in Sweden, we can not se the Wood for all trees…
I loved tosee the threes bent for you in the first part, or shall we call it distortion ;-)
I wish nyc had some mist more often
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