Wehrlein is such a “what could have been” story. I’m not saying he’s the reincarnation of Senna, but he was very solid. Definitely would have deserved a seat beyond the time he got Also some of the people rated above heidfeld…ehhhh
I would definitely rank Lotterer above a lot of those bottom pay drivers. Coming in randomly and beating Ericsson in qualifying on a first attempt is proof already he's better than the bottom tier
@F1RetroVentures I would also point out that this list only considers results between 2010 and 2019, so results in 2005 don't count in this context. He has uploaded another video for that decade.
@F1RetroVentures sadly the V10s are a thing of the past. Any engine noise is inherently energy not going to the wheels. While a slightly louder car would be exciting, I don't think it is in keeping with F1 and their quest for efficiency.
I feel like Mark Webber is really unappreciated. Without him, the nation of Australia wouldn't give a shit about Formula 1 anymore. Finishing 5th in a car that should have finished 19th is pretty dang good. The fucking mad lad even wheeled his car into the podium places whilst purging the contents of his stomach from the last 24 hours into his visor and helmet. The knock-on effects would also result in Sebastian Vettel NOT being the kind soul we know him as today, and the butterfly effect would have probably affected the whole Red Bull brand with Daniel Ricciardo probably deciding to take up farming, and Oscar Piastri too if the latter ever got a seat in our timeline.
I think Kamui Kobayashi is the most unfortunate driver in 2010s. Especially 2012 is the good example. He scored good result in qualy but almost of them are ruined by irrelevant his mistakes. Some people may have differ opinions but I think Kobayashi is better than Perez in terms of speed(but Perez has better skills of tyre management and also he has speed. That’s the fact). If he hadn’t suffered his bad luck he would have scored podiums at least 3 times and even he would had scored a win. Therefore it was sad and unreasonable for me that Esteban Gutierrez replaced him in 2013.
100% agree, I mean he was only 6 points behind Perez at the end of the 2012 season who was there at the right place at the right time a lot of occasions whereas Kamui lost at a significant double digit number of points due to bad luck that season. His podium in Suzuka was absolutely incredible as well. He withstood intense pressure of Button and got the podium by pure pace (in a Sauber!) not due to a chaotic race or a great strategy gamble. In the end Perez got the drive at McLaren and is a three time race winner (well deserved!) whereas Kamui was forced out by a paydriver. F1 can be cruel sometimes...
That’s might be true but at this moment we should judge by drivers result in Formula 1. At this point I’m afraid that Kobayashi is better than Di Resta.
@@tsann8701 Nope. Look at the 2013 season. Di Resta finished only 1 point behind Perez in an inferior car. And actually Di Resta has a better record against Sutil in 2013 in his last year than Grosjean has against Gutierrez in 2016. This is important because Sutil and Gutierrez went equal in quali in 2014. So maybe Di Resta is actually better than Grosjean
@Chamindu Janith I surprised how Di Resta performed well in 2013, so I can understand your opinion. However I emphasized how a driver took high places for example podiums and qualifying positions. In this point I judged Kobayashi who took a podium and four times higher than 3rd in qualifying. Also Grosjean took podiums 10 times. Therefore I think Kobayashi and Grosjean are better than Di Resta. It’s just my opinion. But I agree that both Kobayashi and Di Resta are underrated so much. Both of them should be praised more.
Can‘t wait for the 60‘s with like 120 drivers and the video lasting 3h just bc you have to name all those rich people that raced once lol… but great video with big respect to the drivers. Loved it
Maybe it's because I'm an spaniard, but it feels wrong to see Alonso behind Rosberg in this ranking. Don't think that at any point in his career Nico was rated as a better driver than Fernando
The list is fairly accurate but Russell at 28 is just wrong. No way his performance in that one year, where Kubica even scored points, is above Trulli, Glock, Giovinazzi, Kovalainen, Petrov etc... no matter his junior record. Stoffek should be higher too.
Great video, but I need to address one thing: 1:06:28 Rosberg didn't lose fabric on his gloves to "save weight", that's ridiculous. He'd however had his gloves redone, so that a seam on his finger wasn't in the way for the clutch, which gave him a slight advantage at the starts.
I’m simply stating what Niko Rosberg said. Niko said word for word “ I CUT MY SOCKS TO SAVE WEIGHT” the F.IA. Isn’t checking everyone’s socks before the race. Are you saying he’s lying about cutting socks? I don’t think so…
Sauber did plenty of their drivers dirty during previous decade. Kobayashi, Hulkenberg, Nasr, Wehrlein - all good drivers who were dropped in favor of keeping mediocre drivers such as Gutierrez and Ericsson. No wonder they kept getting worse as time went by.
His performance should be praised but some people say his personality unable him to drive in F1. His personality is so haughtily that people work with him disagreed. That’s shame.
If he hadn’t dead so earlier, sooner or later he could drive Ferrari. His death completely changed future of many drivers. For example Kimi Räikkönen wouldn’t had remained scuderia for 5 years and Charles Leclerc might had joined RB junior program (because RB executive Hermut Marko said Leclerc was the only guy he had wanted to welcome but failed because Ferrari picked up him earlier). I wanted to see the world he still alive and shows his talent so much.
@@pornhubmante In 2020 and 2021 certainly but only 2019 counts for the 2010s. Räikkönen got three times as many points as Gio and Gio got almost all his points in 2019 at the Brazilian GP. I think his placement is tough but fair. Considering that Chilton only raced for Marussia it is difficult to assess his driving ability, of course.
Again, different criteria to what I was expecting. My top 3 would be Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton, with Rosberg in 4th. Car performance still goes a long way. Hamilton in terms of being consistently fast throughout his career for me earns him the 1st spot, however the driver that has reached the absolute peak of performance is Vettel in 2013. He's not as consistent as Hamilton has been, but that 2013 year, even if he had the best car, he still pulled feats that no other driver has done before or after him even with a greater car advantage relative to the competition. After Red Bull botched his strategy in Australia (where he started on pole and was pulling away with ease) and then later when he had a DNF while leading in Silverstone... If not for those two misteps which were not his fault, he would've gotten an all time absolute record of 15 wins in a season. 13 wins in a 19 race season is already phenomenal, and then those 9 in a row, which is a record we will probably never see beaten. He was just on his own element... His Singapore weekend in particular was just ridiculous, finishing over 50 seconds ahead of his teammate and over 30 ahead of 2nd place with a safety car in the middle of the race, IN THE DRY!!!
Exactly. And let´s not forget at first half of the season, how much the Red Bulls struggled with tyre degradation (not as much as the Mercedes, but was pretty high too), and he was still leading the championship.
What should prevent Alonso from scoring so highly IMO is his absolutely dire time at McLaren. Sure, the car wasn't there to begin with, but Alonso wasn't exactly helping the development or morale inside the team either. As for the early 2010s I still think he gets outshone by Vettel. Sure, Alonso was impressively consistent, but Vettel was always faster, and especially in 2013, unmatched in any regard.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 I say those 3 in my top 3 but not in that order. Hamilton is 1st followed by Vettel in 2nd during the 2010s. Both by far the best drivers of that ear. And as you stated and well, Vettel went into 2015 to Ferrari and Ferrari got a morale and work ethic boost, to deliver the cars in 2017-2018, shame however that they changed Team Principal in 2019 and it all started to go downhill from there.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 very hard for morale to be good in a team that actively sabotages you and favors one driver. poeple seem to forget that alonso from 2010-2013 put the 3rd fastest car second in the championship and almost winning it twice versing an extremely competitive red-bull while lewis in the second fastest car failed to beat him and in 2011 lost to 4 other drivers aswell
@@banana-ui2qd The 2010 Ferrari was very competitive, so no surprise there. In 2011 the McLaren was unreliable, so again, no surprise that he managed to beat them. In 2012 the Ferrari had bulletproof reliability whilst the Red Bulls and especially the McLarens (who had the fastest car) failed frequently. Alonso did perform very well during those years, but it's not like it was an otherworldly performance, as some like to claim. My statement on keeping team morale was in relation to the McLaren Honda years, where Alonso was a toxic influence on internal relations. Comments like "GP2 engine" are funny, but they aren't exactly helpful to fixing the problem, motivating the engineers or keeping the team's spirit up. The best drivers also have to bring along qualities that allow them to participate in building the team, form a healthy working relationship and keep spirits up even when things aren't going as planned. As an example look at Schumacher, who from his joining of Ferrari in 1996 was one of the main reasons behind its success on the early 2000s, and once he left things started to falter. In that regard Alonso has shown more than once that he doesn't do this.
Good that you got Kubica in the middle.. 1 of the stars of 2010, but then that Rally accident happened and in 2019 the return to Williams which was a disaster.. but .. that he returned was an enourmous archievement :) , 1 of his biggest of his carreer
Some people say if Toyota hadn’t withdrawn from F1 in the end of 2009, they would had promoted Kamui and Kimi Räikkönen as their drivers in 2010. Also their cars had wonderful potential so I wanted to see their journey.
Sorry but I can't get behind Alonso being 5th, and behind Max and Nico. If this js about how good drivers were in the decade, and not about numbers, Alonso absolutely was the better driver in the 2010s I love Max, and from 2015-2019 he did have some excellent seasons, but Alonso had two title challenges, and his 2012, 2014, and 2018 seasons were all at an incredibly high level - Max didn't have 3 seasons of that quality in the decade
@@philhellmuth2771 He was dire in the crapbox that was McLaren Honda (and didn't exactly help with the atmosphere in the team), and the only 'slow' car he truly outperformed would be the 2012 Ferrari, which wasn't as slow as people think, and benefitted massively from RedBull's and McLaren's reliability issues. The 2010 Ferrari was perfectly capable of fighting for a championship, and I don't see where Alonso would have outperformed the 2011, 2013 and 2014 Ferraris.
I'll put Alonso in the 3rd position in the 2010s, Rosberg in the 4th position and Verstappen in the 5th in the 2010s. Verstappen is incredibily talented and he is doing a superb 2020 decade, but, prior to 2018, Verstappen have had an incredible talent, but was inconsistent and excessively aggressive, because that, the fair thing is put Verstappen behind Alonso and Rosberg. Otherwise, a great video, congratulations!
Alexander Rossi: Moved to IndyCar for 2016; went on to win the Indy 500 on his first attempt Andre Lotterer: Much better at endurance racing than Formula 1 Romain Grosjean: Lap 1 was not kind to him in 2012 Brendon Hartley: Two rounds in a row ended in accidents where he got taken out by a home driver (first Monaco's Charles Leclerc due to brake failure, then a lap 1 incident with Canada's Lance Stroll where Lance overcorrected an oversteer issue) Antonio Giovinazzi: the final corner at China was not kind to him in 2017 Charles Leclerc: Other than his home race, he tends to fare well if reliability is on his side Pastor Maldonado: Outside a surprising win in Spain, he's usually somewhere in a wreck Jules Bianchi: If it wasn't for the weather in Japan, he'd likely still be with us today Marcus Ericsson: Grosjean's engineer thinks Marcus hit the baguette Sebastian Buemi: Uh, Seb, front tyres... Kamui Kobayashi: If he's within range for it, _HAIRPIN TIME!_ Sebastian Vettel: Before the engine regs of 2014, he was kicking butt and taking names; he came back on the circuit like an idiot at Monza in 2019, which Lance Stroll did himself after his own spin Lewis Hamilton: The engine regs of 2014 were extremely kind to him, as Mercedes was more than ready Daniil Kvyat: If he's within range for it, _TORPEDO ALERT!_ Pascal Wehrlein: Monaco 2017 ended on his side at Portier after a bump from substitute Jenson Button Fernando Alonso: He really hated the Honda engines, which even took him out of the 2017 Indy 500 Stoffel "The Waffle" Vandoorne: "I got squeezed" Nico Hulkenberg: He just could not find the podium... George Russell: 2019 was not very kind, 2020 saw a crash at Imola and trye issues in a substitute drive on Sakhir's Outer Loop, and torrid weather enabled him to gain a podium at Belgium in 2021 Max Verstappen: Man, he's fast; a turn 4 incident on lap 1 between the Mercs helped him win on his Red Bull debut Carlos Sainz: Carlos check the radio, we seem to have picked up some dodgy music channel again Lando Norris: IT'S BROKEN!
I would have personally rated wehrlein much higher. Imo he was better at manor and at the end of the year I was shocked that Ocon got the call up to force India and he missed out
Wehrlein was stupid fast and talented. Sadly he was also stupidly cocky and arrogant. FI tested both Ocon and Wehrlein and all the engineers wanted Ocon because he worked with them while Wehrlein came around as a prick. Mercedes should have picked him up 2017 no matter what, he was their rookie at that time. But in the end they choose a save Nr. 2 then risking another Alonso-Hamilton Fiakso.
@@Cloney1337 yup, was going to write that. When I saw him driving for mahindra in formula e, I saw his driving brilliance. Wehrlein was a bag full of talent.
I started with the most recent video, 1990's. Then 2000's now doing this vid the oldest. There's 96 rank drivers from the 90's not counting a handful of non starters. Bravo, what history and pictures.
You said Karthikeyan was slow, slow drivers don't take pole positions Macau grand prix. He was quick but didn't had the financial backing required to race for good teams.
I'm sorry, but if you're a 33 year old guy who hasn't driven a Formula 1 car in over a decade, come randomly strolling by and beat your established team mate by over a second in your debut qualifying, you can't possibly be the worst driver of the decade.
Thanks a lot for the that outstanding list. I feel with you man. this probably took you quite some time. My top ten would be: 10.) Bottas, 9.) Räikönnen, 8.) Verstappen, 7.) Ricciardo, 6.) Webber, 5.) Button, 4.) Alonso, 3.) Rosberg, 2.) Vettel, 1.) Hamilton
IMO, I would put Gutiérrez in the bottom 5 because he only scored points once with a car that was comfortably competitive in the midfield and Hülkenberg got 51 points with that same car. It was even worse in 2016, because while Grosjean scored 29 points, he scored nothing
Absolutely. Although I can understand he struggled to drive because 2013 was the first year for him, his score was so poor. Also Sauber had struggled in terms of finances but I wanted to see Kamui Kobayashi in 2013.
This is really good mate 👏, can we have the 2012 season for the HRT, Marussia and Caterham seasons as I really like these videos also Karthikeyan is a HERO 😂
I've definitely considered doing it for the 2000s but beyond that it gets tricky because there are loads of drivers that did only one race and I'm only in my 20s so I also don't remember any of it
@@PeterBrookF1 I'd still be happy if you only did the 2000s, it was one of the most competitive periods in F1 history so it would be interesting to see the rankings
The little subtle jokes in this one are top notch. I did like it more in the other video when you would flash the drivers' names up on the screen in text. Can't wait for the next one in eight years time.
@@K9RacingAndStuff JUST Cup and yep 2010s!! I've almost cobbled a list together, I have maybe 20 guys I haven't thrown in there yet. It's a loose list based just off numbers and whether they finished and how on par it was with the equipment, it's still in the draft phase, but right now Richardson is 143rd out of the 163 I have on the list. Most everyone below him are guys with limited starts that DNF'd with the understanding that Paulie Harraka will be the lowest ranked driver lmao
@@K9RacingAndStuff here in Poland we have a youtube F1 podcast channel where two guys covered the whole 2010 season in a 3h long video, so it is possible 😃
First half of 2010 decade new drivers were less than promising, probably one of the worst era of rookies ever... Most of the drivers that made his debut from 2010 until 2015 or 2016 wasn't meant to be champion. Literaly nobody though they will make big things in F1. Maybe the exception was Bianchi, but he stayed very little until his crash... Thankfuly they didn't last long and the second half was full of promising drivers that are now doing great things
@@mike04574 Of course there are exceptions. Well, Bottas was never meant to be Champion anyway... I forgot to mention Senna, who was very promising, and it ended being dissapointing
2010 Ferrari was very much capable of fighting for the championship. 3 teams in 2010 were strong enough for the championship. The only big difference is that Red Bull was really strong in qualifying, but in the race if they ever messed up their starts, (year without DRS as well), they would have insane trouble overtaking because of how slow they were on the straights, and with the huge amount of downforce, their tyres would also shred faster than Ferrari and McLaren. Not to mention their Renault Engine was also unreliable, where Vettel lost 3 wins due to reliability issues (2 engine related, the other due to brake failure). 2012 yes, car shouldn't have been in the championship fight, but it was incredibly reliable, and the field back then was really strong, where the top teams weren't head and shoulders above the rest, it was unpredictable every race. The car also wasn't that bad on race day, but it was a dog in qualifying. Massa in the 2nd half of the season outscored Hamilton and Webber... So that car wasn't complete garbage as people like to think it is. Vettel had two DNFs, one from the lead in Valencia and another from 4th place in Italy, also had a backmarker give him a puncture in Malaysia... Had to start from the back in Abu Dhabi and had his car crashed against on the opening lap in Brazil, and still came back from a 40 point deficit to win the championship.
Pretty much perfect ranking, I found little to nothing to disagree with. Glad as Finn to see that in both 2000s and 2010s listing our drivers made it to top 10 :) I know there are many who would rank Kimi and Bottas maybe lower than in top 10 in 2010s but while neither of them belong in top 5, I think their results speak for themselves and they indeed deserve top be ranked in top 10. If we would take in Kimi's two last years with Alfa, then that might drop him out of top 10, but as it is those years ofc dont count in this. Hopefully with 2020s ranking we would see Tuukka Taponen there :D....if there is one upcoming Finn who can make it to the top of F1, its him. Not sure how much you know about him, but he won the karting world championship as the first Finn ever (not even Mika Häkkinen or Kimi could do that) and he is now part of Ferrari's young academy drivers and starts to race in F4 with Prema this year. If everything goes well, we could see him in F1 within next 4 to 6 years, depending on his results and the situation on F1 driver market of course. But so far it seems he is one of the best drivers of his own generation. Still so many young promising drivers have never made it to F1 or have had rather disappointing F1 careers so I try not to get too hyped about his chances :D
7th round of 2022 now and unless Mercedes and Hamliton can become a rocket again this year it seems like this generation is ending for good to give way to the likes of Max, Charles, George, for the years to come. Sure we will enjoy their races, but I grew up watching these guys, which is always special. I think some of the things I'll miss more about this decade are Hamilton's iconic yellow helmet driving for McLaren, Vettel being competitive, and Button's wet weather wins, something about those wins just stole my heart even as a neutral fan.
I think this is still a car performance list. Please redo your work and judge drivers skills, just and only drivers skills, because this claims to be an F1 drivers list. In a correct F1 drivers list multi-championship winners are not automatically on top spots. I can only believe lists like this if a totally forgotten, lets say HRT driver (for example) is placed top 10 for his often shown incredible drivers skills in a wreck of a car to still become last on the grid or finish line.
Talented drivers get promoted to good teams (I know not always) which is why the top of this list is full of drivers who went quickly from B teams where they performed strongly to teams where they could compete.
@@stomponpie Both you and me know plenty of talented drivers who never drove the race winning cars. The reason is mathematic; there are only a few of those cars, sometimes only two, at best six, while at least half of the drivers on the grid will have race winning talents. Chances are huge that some of the best drivers only drove b or c graded cars their entire career and probably never scored a single point, but still had the talent to become world champion.
@@arendruizendaal1913 Well, we don't have evidence of that because every world champion at least of this century had their team finish 2nd at worst in the constructors.
Andre Lotterer is one of the best Racecar drivers of the 2010s. Shame he never got a break in F1. I know him, he is a really nice and charming guy, but he us utterly insane. Even for a racing driver. I even drove against him in Audi Roadcars. Let's just say it didn't go well for me.
i think i would have to put verstappen further down simply because this is the 2010s, a handful of race wins and an incredible red bull debut keeps him top 10 for sure but not top 3. I would slot him just behind alonso. he didn’t quite outpace daniel ricciardo well we wouldn’t know because of the aweful red bull reliability.
Wehrlein is such a “what could have been” story. I’m not saying he’s the reincarnation of Senna, but he was very solid. Definitely would have deserved a seat beyond the time he got
Also some of the people rated above heidfeld…ehhhh
Simply the 2010s Heidfeld, not the 2000s Heidfeld
JEV actually beat Danny Ric one year and beat Kyvat pretty convincingly so idk about being outclassed by his hotshot teammates.
Jev was criminally underrated, he deserved that RedBull seat more than kvyat in 2014
@@patrickbateman6682 He just didn't get along with Marko, that alone buried his carreer before it took off
@@patrickbateman6682 who is JEV?
@@rickyronaldo401 Jean Eric Vergne
JEV also went on to win Formula E a bunch of times
Him not getting a high end seat in F1 is such a shame
I would definitely rank Lotterer above a lot of those bottom pay drivers. Coming in randomly and beating Ericsson in qualifying on a first attempt is proof already he's better than the bottom tier
A few strange choices, George Russell is way too high, in the 2010s he had no better performance than the likes of Max Chilton and Jarno Trulli.
@F1RetroVentures and what does that have to do with George Russell?
@F1RetroVentures I would also point out that this list only considers results between 2010 and 2019, so results in 2005 don't count in this context. He has uploaded another video for that decade.
@F1RetroVentures sadly the V10s are a thing of the past. Any engine noise is inherently energy not going to the wheels. While a slightly louder car would be exciting, I don't think it is in keeping with F1 and their quest for efficiency.
@F1RetroVentures I for once enjoy not needing ear protection at races.
Max Chilton? Gimme your dope plz
I feel like Mark Webber is really unappreciated. Without him, the nation of Australia wouldn't give a shit about Formula 1 anymore. Finishing 5th in a car that should have finished 19th is pretty dang good. The fucking mad lad even wheeled his car into the podium places whilst purging the contents of his stomach from the last 24 hours into his visor and helmet.
The knock-on effects would also result in Sebastian Vettel NOT being the kind soul we know him as today, and the butterfly effect would have probably affected the whole Red Bull brand with Daniel Ricciardo probably deciding to take up farming, and Oscar Piastri too if the latter ever got a seat in our timeline.
Verstappens issue in Brazil with Ocon was in 2018, not in 2019. And verstappen didn't win, Hamilton did.
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Wow, a lot of work went into this, so even though I don't agree with some of it, have to say good job mate! subbed
Verstappen and Leclerc should be slightly lower but slightly tbh.
That Jules Bianchi segment hit hard. R.I.P Jules, may you rest in peace.
Great job, man! Love this extremely long format and your jokes throughout. Keep up the good work, I can definitely see this channel growing soon!
I think Kamui Kobayashi is the most unfortunate driver in 2010s. Especially 2012 is the good example. He scored good result in qualy but almost of them are ruined by irrelevant his mistakes. Some people may have differ opinions but I think Kobayashi is better than Perez in terms of speed(but Perez has better skills of tyre management and also he has speed. That’s the fact). If he hadn’t suffered his bad luck he would have scored podiums at least 3 times and even he would had scored a win.
Therefore it was sad and unreasonable for me that Esteban Gutierrez replaced him in 2013.
100% agree, I mean he was only 6 points behind Perez at the end of the 2012 season who was there at the right place at the right time a lot of occasions whereas Kamui lost at a significant double digit number of points due to bad luck that season. His podium in Suzuka was absolutely incredible as well. He withstood intense pressure of Button and got the podium by pure pace (in a Sauber!) not due to a chaotic race or a great strategy gamble. In the end Perez got the drive at McLaren and is a three time race winner (well deserved!) whereas Kamui was forced out by a paydriver. F1 can be cruel sometimes...
@@STVGamingOfficial Di Resta is better than Kobayashi. Annihilated him in F3.
That’s might be true but at this moment we should judge by drivers result in Formula 1. At this point I’m afraid that Kobayashi is better than Di Resta.
@@tsann8701 Nope. Look at the 2013 season. Di Resta finished only 1 point behind Perez in an inferior car. And actually Di Resta has a better record against Sutil in 2013 in his last year than Grosjean has against Gutierrez in 2016. This is important because Sutil and Gutierrez went equal in quali in 2014. So maybe Di Resta is actually better than Grosjean
@Chamindu Janith I surprised how Di Resta performed well in 2013, so I can understand your opinion. However I emphasized how a driver took high places for example podiums and qualifying positions. In this point I judged Kobayashi who took a podium and four times higher than 3rd in qualifying. Also Grosjean took podiums 10 times. Therefore I think Kobayashi and Grosjean are better than Di Resta. It’s just my opinion.
But I agree that both Kobayashi and Di Resta are underrated so much. Both of them should be praised more.
Can‘t wait for the 60‘s with like 120 drivers and the video lasting 3h just bc you have to name all those rich people that raced once lol… but great video with big respect to the drivers. Loved it
If he doesn't rank Mansell super high in 80s and 90s I should not be held responsible for my actions!
Maybe it's because I'm an spaniard, but it feels wrong to see Alonso behind Rosberg in this ranking. Don't think that at any point in his career Nico was rated as a better driver than Fernando
Yeah, I feel the same. But Nico did win a title, so would maybe be hard on him to be below Alonso
The list is fairly accurate but Russell at 28 is just wrong. No way his performance in that one year, where Kubica even scored points, is above Trulli, Glock, Giovinazzi, Kovalainen, Petrov etc... no matter his junior record. Stoffek should be higher too.
Almost won on his first race for mercedes... 28 is honestly pretty low, he drove the worst car on the grid and outperformed his teammate almost always
@@diegopuijk9803 That was 2020. Glock also outperfomed his 3 different sets of teammates while driving an equally bad car.
@@diegopuijk9803 Too bad he finished last in the championship to a guy who was driving with one hand, and last in 2010 (excluding testing).
@@SelevanRsC remind me what the H2H was between Kubica and Russell again?
Compare Russell and Kubica's qualy and races. Outqualified him every time, and beat him in the race almost every time.
Great video, but I need to address one thing: 1:06:28 Rosberg didn't lose fabric on his gloves to "save weight", that's ridiculous. He'd however had his gloves redone, so that a seam on his finger wasn't in the way for the clutch, which gave him a slight advantage at the starts.
Rosberg did cut his socks to shave a few grams though. This comes from Rosberg directly.
@@bradobrien965 rallye funny..Rosberg did that rallye for the clutch to feel the presurepoint HAM need oder 5 races too realize that....
@@muamer1095 I was talking about his socks 🧦 not his gloves. I can barely understand your writing.
@@bradobrien965 my keyboard was set up on german. Its bullshit with your socks ,its even not allowed by the F.I.A.
I’m simply stating what Niko Rosberg said. Niko said word for word “ I CUT MY SOCKS TO SAVE WEIGHT” the F.IA. Isn’t checking everyone’s socks before the race. Are you saying he’s lying about cutting socks? I don’t think so…
Pascal Wehrlein definitely should still be in F1. He always outperformed the car he was in and never should have been dropped tbh
Sauber did plenty of their drivers dirty during previous decade. Kobayashi, Hulkenberg, Nasr, Wehrlein - all good drivers who were dropped in favor of keeping mediocre drivers such as Gutierrez and Ericsson. No wonder they kept getting worse as time went by.
His performance should be praised but some people say his personality unable him to drive in F1. His personality is so haughtily that people work with him disagreed. That’s shame.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Well Ericsson won the Indy 500 and is leading IndyCar.🤪
@@chamindujanith6337 Doesn't matter, he still sucked in F1.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Maybe he didn't get the right chances?
It's funny to see how some of these drivers fair in indycar. Like rosi well outclassing Chilton
unbelivable amout of work put into this, massive respect. Also gotta love “Is that Glock in 47th!” lmao
I can’t imagine how long this list would have taken to make! Great video!
If Latifi was on this list, he would have definitely take the number 1 spot!
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#forzajules
This Wednesday marks 8 years since his inspiring monaco grand prix.
Never forgotten 1989-2015
If he hadn’t dead so earlier, sooner or later he could drive Ferrari. His death completely changed future of many drivers. For example Kimi Räikkönen wouldn’t had remained scuderia for 5 years and Charles Leclerc might had joined RB junior program (because RB executive Hermut Marko said Leclerc was the only guy he had wanted to welcome but failed because Ferrari picked up him earlier).
I wanted to see the world he still alive and shows his talent so much.
#forzajules
2 days ago on Sunday marks 7 years since his passing. #improvesafety.
I would put Alonso ahead of both Rosberg and Verstappen, his 2012 run is much more impressive than 2016 Rosberg or 2021 verstappen
Imagine ranking Max Chilton above Giovinazzi
fr giovinazzi outpaced raikkonen in a lot of istances i know it wasn't prime raikkonen but still he deserves more
@@pornhubmante In 2020 and 2021 certainly but only 2019 counts for the 2010s. Räikkönen got three times as many points as Gio and Gio got almost all his points in 2019 at the Brazilian GP. I think his placement is tough but fair. Considering that Chilton only raced for Marussia it is difficult to assess his driving ability, of course.
imagine ranking Max 3rd
Max Chilton was close to jules bianchi
@@josefsousek6551 tbh he was kinda terrible between 2016 and 2018
Again, different criteria to what I was expecting.
My top 3 would be Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton, with Rosberg in 4th. Car performance still goes a long way. Hamilton in terms of being consistently fast throughout his career for me earns him the 1st spot, however the driver that has reached the absolute peak of performance is Vettel in 2013. He's not as consistent as Hamilton has been, but that 2013 year, even if he had the best car, he still pulled feats that no other driver has done before or after him even with a greater car advantage relative to the competition. After Red Bull botched his strategy in Australia (where he started on pole and was pulling away with ease) and then later when he had a DNF while leading in Silverstone... If not for those two misteps which were not his fault, he would've gotten an all time absolute record of 15 wins in a season. 13 wins in a 19 race season is already phenomenal, and then those 9 in a row, which is a record we will probably never see beaten. He was just on his own element... His Singapore weekend in particular was just ridiculous, finishing over 50 seconds ahead of his teammate and over 30 ahead of 2nd place with a safety car in the middle of the race, IN THE DRY!!!
Exactly. And let´s not forget at first half of the season, how much the Red Bulls struggled with tyre degradation (not as much as the Mercedes, but was pretty high too), and he was still leading the championship.
What should prevent Alonso from scoring so highly IMO is his absolutely dire time at McLaren. Sure, the car wasn't there to begin with, but Alonso wasn't exactly helping the development or morale inside the team either. As for the early 2010s I still think he gets outshone by Vettel. Sure, Alonso was impressively consistent, but Vettel was always faster, and especially in 2013, unmatched in any regard.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 I say those 3 in my top 3 but not in that order. Hamilton is 1st followed by Vettel in 2nd during the 2010s. Both by far the best drivers of that ear. And as you stated and well, Vettel went into 2015 to Ferrari and Ferrari got a morale and work ethic boost, to deliver the cars in 2017-2018, shame however that they changed Team Principal in 2019 and it all started to go downhill from there.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 very hard for morale to be good in a team that actively sabotages you and favors one driver. poeple seem to forget that alonso from 2010-2013 put the 3rd fastest car second in the championship and almost winning it twice versing an extremely competitive red-bull while lewis in the second fastest car failed to beat him and in 2011 lost to 4 other drivers aswell
@@banana-ui2qd
The 2010 Ferrari was very competitive, so no surprise there. In 2011 the McLaren was unreliable, so again, no surprise that he managed to beat them. In 2012 the Ferrari had bulletproof reliability whilst the Red Bulls and especially the McLarens (who had the fastest car) failed frequently. Alonso did perform very well during those years, but it's not like it was an otherworldly performance, as some like to claim.
My statement on keeping team morale was in relation to the McLaren Honda years, where Alonso was a toxic influence on internal relations. Comments like "GP2 engine" are funny, but they aren't exactly helpful to fixing the problem, motivating the engineers or keeping the team's spirit up. The best drivers also have to bring along qualities that allow them to participate in building the team, form a healthy working relationship and keep spirits up even when things aren't going as planned. As an example look at Schumacher, who from his joining of Ferrari in 1996 was one of the main reasons behind its success on the early 2000s, and once he left things started to falter. In that regard Alonso has shown more than once that he doesn't do this.
1:09:54 not 100% but I remember Hamilton winning in Brazil 2018 not max
I love how you had to emphasize the first time you got to say "1 point." with Sirotkin after having to say the same line over and over again.
Good that you got Kubica in the middle.. 1 of the stars of 2010, but then that Rally accident happened and in 2019 the return to Williams which was a disaster.. but .. that he returned was an enourmous archievement :) , 1 of his biggest of his carreer
The legend that is kamui kobayashi...love seeing him when he was with sauber....he would have the seat at toyota if toyota didn't leave f1....
Some people say if Toyota hadn’t withdrawn from F1 in the end of 2009, they would had promoted Kamui and Kimi Räikkönen as their drivers in 2010. Also their cars had wonderful potential so I wanted to see their journey.
1:10:30 Lewis was 22 when he made his debut not 23. thats the year he became champ. max will be 24 this year
Sorry but I can't get behind Alonso being 5th, and behind Max and Nico.
If this js about how good drivers were in the decade, and not about numbers, Alonso absolutely was the better driver in the 2010s
I love Max, and from 2015-2019 he did have some excellent seasons, but Alonso had two title challenges, and his 2012, 2014, and 2018 seasons were all at an incredibly high level - Max didn't have 3 seasons of that quality in the decade
he probably biased it a lot on numbers as to not upset people too much which honestly, considering the size of this i'm fine with
@@xavier4519 yeah thats fair
Alonso should be number 1. he consistently ouperformed in shitty cars. Best driver ever
@@philhellmuth2771
He was dire in the crapbox that was McLaren Honda (and didn't exactly help with the atmosphere in the team), and the only 'slow' car he truly outperformed would be the 2012 Ferrari, which wasn't as slow as people think, and benefitted massively from RedBull's and McLaren's reliability issues. The 2010 Ferrari was perfectly capable of fighting for a championship, and I don't see where Alonso would have outperformed the 2011, 2013 and 2014 Ferraris.
@@philhellmuth2771 cope
Verstappen over Rosberg in the 2010s is a bit of a joke. Yes he’s incredible and obviously proved his worth now but definitely not 3rd
Rip Jules bianchi he's a legend in F1 he just never got the chance to show it and I would never place albon ahead of jules
How can you rank him higher if he never got to show it?
@@thraitor7819 he showed glimpses
This is fantastic, excellent work! Deserves a lot more coverage
Bruno Senna did get a fastest lap, at Spa in 2012.
I'll put Alonso in the 3rd position in the 2010s, Rosberg in the 4th position and Verstappen in the 5th in the 2010s. Verstappen is incredibily talented and he is doing a superb 2020 decade, but, prior to 2018, Verstappen have had an incredible talent, but was inconsistent and excessively aggressive, because that, the fair thing is put Verstappen behind Alonso and Rosberg.
Otherwise, a great video, congratulations!
Yes your right with 3 4 and 5.
Rosberg over Alonso IS a joke
Not bad for a driver who first raced with HRT lol.
Pretty good job, I bet this was damn difficult to do.
Alexander Rossi: Moved to IndyCar for 2016; went on to win the Indy 500 on his first attempt
Andre Lotterer: Much better at endurance racing than Formula 1
Romain Grosjean: Lap 1 was not kind to him in 2012
Brendon Hartley: Two rounds in a row ended in accidents where he got taken out by a home driver (first Monaco's Charles Leclerc due to brake failure, then a lap 1 incident with Canada's Lance Stroll where Lance overcorrected an oversteer issue)
Antonio Giovinazzi: the final corner at China was not kind to him in 2017
Charles Leclerc: Other than his home race, he tends to fare well if reliability is on his side
Pastor Maldonado: Outside a surprising win in Spain, he's usually somewhere in a wreck
Jules Bianchi: If it wasn't for the weather in Japan, he'd likely still be with us today
Marcus Ericsson: Grosjean's engineer thinks Marcus hit the baguette
Sebastian Buemi: Uh, Seb, front tyres...
Kamui Kobayashi: If he's within range for it, _HAIRPIN TIME!_
Sebastian Vettel: Before the engine regs of 2014, he was kicking butt and taking names; he came back on the circuit like an idiot at Monza in 2019, which Lance Stroll did himself after his own spin
Lewis Hamilton: The engine regs of 2014 were extremely kind to him, as Mercedes was more than ready
Daniil Kvyat: If he's within range for it, _TORPEDO ALERT!_
Pascal Wehrlein: Monaco 2017 ended on his side at Portier after a bump from substitute Jenson Button
Fernando Alonso: He really hated the Honda engines, which even took him out of the 2017 Indy 500
Stoffel "The Waffle" Vandoorne: "I got squeezed"
Nico Hulkenberg: He just could not find the podium...
George Russell: 2019 was not very kind, 2020 saw a crash at Imola and trye issues in a substitute drive on Sakhir's Outer Loop, and torrid weather enabled him to gain a podium at Belgium in 2021
Max Verstappen: Man, he's fast; a turn 4 incident on lap 1 between the Mercs helped him win on his Red Bull debut
Carlos Sainz: Carlos check the radio, we seem to have picked up some dodgy music channel again
Lando Norris: IT'S BROKEN!
Errickson will win the Indy 500 and other races in Indy Car.
I would have personally rated wehrlein much higher. Imo he was better at manor and at the end of the year I was shocked that Ocon got the call up to force India and he missed out
Wehrlein was stupid fast and talented. Sadly he was also stupidly cocky and arrogant. FI tested both Ocon and Wehrlein and all the engineers wanted Ocon because he worked with them while Wehrlein came around as a prick.
Mercedes should have picked him up 2017 no matter what, he was their rookie at that time. But in the end they choose a save Nr. 2 then risking another Alonso-Hamilton Fiakso.
@@Cloney1337 yup, was going to write that. When I saw him driving for mahindra in formula e, I saw his driving brilliance. Wehrlein was a bag full of talent.
Superb video, this is what I like, but to be fair, in both their whole careers then, I think Giovinazzi was a tiny little better than Ericcson
Ericsson didn’t get a good shot he was canned pretty quickly. Just won the Indy 500 too. Ericsson’s a good driver.
the bit about max aged incredibly well
I started with the most recent video, 1990's. Then 2000's now doing this vid the oldest. There's 96 rank drivers from the 90's not counting a handful of non starters. Bravo, what history and pictures.
You said Karthikeyan was slow, slow drivers don't take pole positions Macau grand prix. He was quick but didn't had the financial backing required to race for good teams.
He was beaten by his teammates regularly though.
@@housesports000 indycar?
Watching this video in 2022 is kind of a trip
1:09:55 this incident actually cost him the win and was also in 2018 and 2019. In 2019 he did however have another awesome race win in 2019
19:24 Had this video running in the background while playing GMod and the loud-ness of this alert sound scared the shit out of me XDD
I'm sorry, but if you're a 33 year old guy who hasn't driven a Formula 1 car in over a decade, come randomly strolling by and beat your established team mate by over a second in your debut qualifying, you can't possibly be the worst driver of the decade.
not enough body of work to confirm that though
Thanks a lot for the that outstanding list. I feel with you man. this probably took you quite some time.
My top ten would be: 10.) Bottas, 9.) Räikönnen, 8.) Verstappen, 7.) Ricciardo, 6.) Webber, 5.) Button, 4.) Alonso, 3.) Rosberg, 2.) Vettel, 1.) Hamilton
IMO, I would put Gutiérrez in the bottom 5 because he only scored points once with a car that was comfortably competitive in the midfield and Hülkenberg got 51 points with that same car.
It was even worse in 2016, because while Grosjean scored 29 points, he scored nothing
Absolutely. Although I can understand he struggled to drive because 2013 was the first year for him, his score was so poor. Also Sauber had struggled in terms of finances but I wanted to see Kamui Kobayashi in 2013.
@@tsann8701 Still, 1 Points finish with the 6th best car on the grid is atrocious
Thank you YT for bringing this video to my attention. Great stuff, subbed! Looking forward to catching up on the other rankings lists.
No way Rosberg is ahead of Alonso. Just no
This is really good mate 👏, can we have the 2012 season for the HRT, Marussia and Caterham seasons as I really like these videos also Karthikeyan is a HERO 😂
Should be out next week!
I was just about to link the interview from 2020 about nasr and you quoted it lol
You should do one of these for every decade of F1
I've definitely considered doing it for the 2000s but beyond that it gets tricky because there are loads of drivers that did only one race and I'm only in my 20s so I also don't remember any of it
@@PeterBrookF1 I'd still be happy if you only did the 2000s, it was one of the most competitive periods in F1 history so it would be interesting to see the rankings
@@PeterBrookF1 I've been watching since 1988. You missed a lot.
@@PeterBrookF1 do research then
6:35 You got his name wrong, it’s supposed to be:
“Will The Lad Stevens”
so you can be in the 40's of best F1 drivers of the 2010's and then go win indy500 in 2022. lol, Grats to marcus :)
"The fall of fernando alonso" HAHA, no he's still top tier, and also he was driving at his best.. since 2004, and even in 2023!
watching this after the 2021 season and that max review was hit head on 👏🏾
The little subtle jokes in this one are top notch. I did like it more in the other video when you would flash the drivers' names up on the screen in text. Can't wait for the next one in eight years time.
I know I'm late to the party here, but man did you do Gio dirty
«But fernando was faster than him» hahahaha
This list is amazing! I wish people would do stuff like this within the NASCAR community.
Oh boy there are way too many drivers to where you have to put limits on it just for it to not be a three hour video.
@@K9RacingAndStuff Only 181! I know because I'm making one right now ;)
@@aaronkristofer18 Just Cup though, right?
For the memes I need to know where Robert Richardson Jr is if you're doing just 2010s
@@K9RacingAndStuff JUST Cup and yep 2010s!! I've almost cobbled a list together, I have maybe 20 guys I haven't thrown in there yet. It's a loose list based just off numbers and whether they finished and how on par it was with the equipment, it's still in the draft phase, but right now Richardson is 143rd out of the 163 I have on the list. Most everyone below him are guys with limited starts that DNF'd with the understanding that Paulie Harraka will be the lowest ranked driver lmao
@@K9RacingAndStuff here in Poland we have a youtube F1 podcast channel where two guys covered the whole 2010 season in a 3h long video, so it is possible 😃
Being pretty new to F1, I found myself repeating Nicholas Latifi in the lower rankings without knowing when Latifi started.
Maldonado is way too low. For all his faults he WON a race, that puts him miles ahead of the next 20 drivers on this list.
First half of 2010 decade new drivers were less than promising, probably one of the worst era of rookies ever... Most of the drivers that made his debut from 2010 until 2015 or 2016 wasn't meant to be champion. Literaly nobody though they will make big things in F1. Maybe the exception was Bianchi, but he stayed very little until his crash... Thankfuly they didn't last long and the second half was full of promising drivers that are now doing great things
Bottas, Perez, ricciardo?
Most of them were signed to shitty teams
@@mike04574 Of course there are exceptions. Well, Bottas was never meant to be Champion anyway...
I forgot to mention Senna, who was very promising, and it ended being dissapointing
Verstappen higher than Alonso between 2010 and 2020? What a joke
Alonso and Hamilton. Alonso was very near to win 2 championships with a Ferrari that wasn’t able to battle for the championship, specially in 2012
The car was that good.
Massa just heavily underperformed.
2010 Ferrari was very much capable of fighting for the championship. 3 teams in 2010 were strong enough for the championship. The only big difference is that Red Bull was really strong in qualifying, but in the race if they ever messed up their starts, (year without DRS as well), they would have insane trouble overtaking because of how slow they were on the straights, and with the huge amount of downforce, their tyres would also shred faster than Ferrari and McLaren. Not to mention their Renault Engine was also unreliable, where Vettel lost 3 wins due to reliability issues (2 engine related, the other due to brake failure).
2012 yes, car shouldn't have been in the championship fight, but it was incredibly reliable, and the field back then was really strong, where the top teams weren't head and shoulders above the rest, it was unpredictable every race. The car also wasn't that bad on race day, but it was a dog in qualifying.
Massa in the 2nd half of the season outscored Hamilton and Webber... So that car wasn't complete garbage as people like to think it is. Vettel had two DNFs, one from the lead in Valencia and another from 4th place in Italy, also had a backmarker give him a puncture in Malaysia... Had to start from the back in Abu Dhabi and had his car crashed against on the opening lap in Brazil, and still came back from a 40 point deficit to win the championship.
If only he could have overtaken Petrow for 35 laps...
Vettel:
Does the 2019 canadian gp thing
(Amazing video btw)
De la Rosa did have the fastest lap in Bahrain 2006
His car is one of the most unmatchable cars in history** fixednit for ya
I keep hearing names that show up in Indycar.
independent of the subjectiveness of it all i love how youre respectful to the drivers abd tries to be fair without trolling anyone
Great video! Agree with every word.
20:35
he's done a mazepin!
Μax is too high man. Like he's above Rosberg really?!
Watching in 2022, and picture of Hulk in Renault, with Haas logo next to him gives me big smile 😁
Pretty much perfect ranking, I found little to nothing to disagree with. Glad as Finn to see that in both 2000s and 2010s listing our drivers made it to top 10 :)
I know there are many who would rank Kimi and Bottas maybe lower than in top 10 in 2010s but while neither of them belong in top 5, I think their results speak for themselves and they indeed deserve top be ranked in top 10. If we would take in Kimi's two last years with Alfa, then that might drop him out of top 10, but as it is those years ofc dont count in this.
Hopefully with 2020s ranking we would see Tuukka Taponen there :D....if there is one upcoming Finn who can make it to the top of F1, its him. Not sure how much you know about him, but he won the karting world championship as the first Finn ever (not even Mika Häkkinen or Kimi could do that) and he is now part of Ferrari's young academy drivers and starts to race in F4 with Prema this year. If everything goes well, we could see him in F1 within next 4 to 6 years, depending on his results and the situation on F1 driver market of course. But so far it seems he is one of the best drivers of his own generation. Still so many young promising drivers have never made it to F1 or have had rather disappointing F1 careers so I try not to get too hyped about his chances :D
7th round of 2022 now and unless Mercedes and Hamliton can become a rocket again this year it seems like this generation is ending for good to give way to the likes of Max, Charles, George, for the years to come. Sure we will enjoy their races, but I grew up watching these guys, which is always special. I think some of the things I'll miss more about this decade are Hamilton's iconic yellow helmet driving for McLaren, Vettel being competitive, and Button's wet weather wins, something about those wins just stole my heart even as a neutral fan.
I hope Alonso is giving you some relief this year
47:02
Yes, he will make a comeback for 2023 and will drive for Haas :)
I liked that the image of hulk had a haas logo behind him, thats foreshadowing
45:37 he was driving a sauber this clearly foreshadows he will drive a sauber next year
in the 2010s, nico rosberg should absolutely be above max verstappen. idk what you're smoking
17:44 so random pastor maldonado shots made me cry loool :D
came here right after Max's 3rd world champions title
Petrov has FL in 2010 Turkish GP
idea: best f1 drivers of the 2020s (so far!)
it would be interesting to see if the ramkings would change throughout the decade.
1:01 gasly and perez both won races now what is their new ranks now?
I guess you'll have to wait until the "Ranking EVERY F1 Driver of the 2020s" video
and Perez won Monaco, also gasly had some nice overtakes in monaco
I hope Giovanazzi will make a return to F1
29:27 That aged like fine milk😂😂
30:28 I think its the complete opposite. He was faster than Grosjean but crashed more and was less reliable.
Brilliant video, completely disagree with Max's spot being 3rd, but none the less great video.
I'm sorry, but Ricciardo over Raikkonen, Bottas and Button is sacrilegious
"No wins, no podiums, no poles, no points, no fastest laps" 😂
I think this is still a car performance list. Please redo your work and judge drivers skills, just and only drivers skills, because this claims to be an F1 drivers list. In a correct F1 drivers list multi-championship winners are not automatically on top spots. I can only believe lists like this if a totally forgotten, lets say HRT driver (for example) is placed top 10 for his often shown incredible drivers skills in a wreck of a car to still become last on the grid or finish line.
Talented drivers get promoted to good teams (I know not always) which is why the top of this list is full of drivers who went quickly from B teams where they performed strongly to teams where they could compete.
@@stomponpie Both you and me know plenty of talented drivers who never drove the race winning cars. The reason is mathematic; there are only a few of those cars, sometimes only two, at best six, while at least half of the drivers on the grid will have race winning talents. Chances are huge that some of the best drivers only drove b or c graded cars their entire career and probably never scored a single point, but still had the talent to become world champion.
@@arendruizendaal1913 Well, we don't have evidence of that because every world champion at least of this century had their team finish 2nd at worst in the constructors.
Get in their George!!!
Magic
Andre Lotterer is one of the best Racecar drivers of the 2010s. Shame he never got a break in F1. I know him, he is a really nice and charming guy, but he us utterly insane. Even for a racing driver. I even drove against him in Audi Roadcars. Let's just say it didn't go well for me.
i think i would have to put verstappen further down simply because this is the 2010s, a handful of race wins and an incredible red bull debut keeps him top 10 for sure but not top 3. I would slot him just behind alonso. he didn’t quite outpace daniel ricciardo well we wouldn’t know because of the aweful red bull reliability.
Rosberg deserves the 3 place instead of MV.
1:10:00 Max didn't won the race in Brazil that year. Second place thanks to ya boy unlapper Ocon.
Jolyon Palmer at # 50, I can hear Alonso shouting "KARMA!!"
You were right! Nico did return in 2023.