🔥 GLUING IN THE DECKS! 🔥 - ⛵️ Building 50ft Sailboat - ep75 Project SeaCamel

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  • @uwesoltau4923
    @uwesoltau4923 7 місяців тому +19

    Mistakes are there to be made and to learn from. Fix and smile. She is beginning to look like a boat now. All the best, you are doing a great job.

    • @tube4h
      @tube4h 7 місяців тому

      I agree! Fix & Smile 😀💪💪

    • @martinwirth3621
      @martinwirth3621 6 місяців тому

      Regarding your sub 1mm mistake, do it similar on tke 😢other Side. Then correct your CAD model😅

    • @martinwirth3621
      @martinwirth3621 6 місяців тому

      Concerning your sub 1 cm mistake :Do. IT the sam way on the other Side and adjust the CAD mdel

  • @aquasapien9275
    @aquasapien9275 7 місяців тому +12

    You are opening new territory in the boat building world ... building your own CNC machine, working with wood laminate, consciously choosing materials that support the planet and most impressively designing the boat itself and programming the CNC for all the cuts. You are singlehandedly opening new boat build territory ... making CNC boat building accessible to the individual. I applaud your pioneering spirit and intelligent design. Thanks for smoothing out the bumps for those who are sure to follow.

  • @greglamb4378
    @greglamb4378 7 місяців тому +12

    Nice to see you watching the Duracell Project. I wonder if they watch you? And I am sure you will fix the little gap. Remember, the man who never made a mistake never made anything!

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      I think and hope they do! 😁 (wonder if they have time though…)

    • @normanboyes4983
      @normanboyes4983 7 місяців тому

      Sorry to see you are still suffering from the colder temperatures, you are making such good progress on the boat and now you have a dilemma - so I will not talk about that. But I know you like heavy metal (you are buying it in bars too 😉) - Have you listened/watched the Norwegian fella with an Italian name Leo Moracchioli ? If not here is a link to one of his covers and collars with Mary Spender - I reckon it is f’n brilliant. ua-cam.com/video/x0RV0kgdqJU/v-deo.htmlsi=6S3RSViVBwL2OVSa

  • @ehofman7636
    @ehofman7636 7 місяців тому +1

    Big job I hope you can fix the problem good luck 👍👍

  • @marktanska6331
    @marktanska6331 7 місяців тому +1

    Far out, I build a 52 footer cement boat. Never have I been brave enough to tackle that myself. Brave man.

  • @gregorywhittaker8321
    @gregorywhittaker8321 7 місяців тому +1

    I feel your pain Bro, thanks for showing this warts and all, it is very instructional and is what makes this project so watchable

  • @MrZZeroG
    @MrZZeroG 7 місяців тому +2

    It’s probably more important that it’s in the same plane than level, but doesn’t hurt to be both. Our Dovoh seems to be pretty close to our higher quality grade level. I think you’re set! Good job!
    One way to confirm (especially inside) is to set level on the wall far away and use a water level. Water levels are nearly perfect and all you need is a bucket, clear tubing and a stick. You can confirm your laser that way too as its error can only be a pitch (plane) issue, photos always travel in a straight line.

  • @richdecibels
    @richdecibels 7 місяців тому

    Panu I just caught up on all your videos. You are so inspiring man! For me this is like a Disney film, some cheesy message like “follow your dreams!” but it’s actually real! You’re going to have such a beautiful boat. You will not regret the commitment to precision. Thank you for being the kind of crazy person to take on such an ambitious project, and thank you for all the extra work you’re doing to document it.

  • @matswilliams1058
    @matswilliams1058 7 місяців тому +2

    And when it’s time for a break you are watching the Duracel project! Focus on boatbuilding😊

  • @SiqueScarface
    @SiqueScarface 7 місяців тому +1

    For the first time, Arctic SeaCamel is actually a three dimensional object.

  • @Fubar12341
    @Fubar12341 7 місяців тому +3

    Hi Parnu. I am not a boat builder but with different things I am involved with I find it quicker in the long term to go back to the stage that isn't quite right put it right and correct then move on to the next stage. It saves altering alot of the work that you have done but not yet fitted.
    All the best mate see you soon . Chris

  • @ekbiker
    @ekbiker 7 місяців тому

    When you tried to force the outside vertical pieces down by hammering it, and it had no space to go anywhere; so it forced the inside pieces up. And that's how you got the gaps. You also used the pry bars, and that probably also pushed up the inside pieces to create that gap.

  • @HansWeberHimself
    @HansWeberHimself 7 місяців тому +1

    You are right. Someone in Spain doing this would have to build a huge refrigerator. 😂

  • @luckytoastsebastian
    @luckytoastsebastian 7 місяців тому +1

    Are you thinking of getting an "inspector"?

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      We have three 🐱🐱🐱
      But unfortunately they’re not used to travelling around…
      They have inspected things I’ve done at home. Like the CNC electric installations. 🧐

  • @psirotta
    @psirotta 7 місяців тому +1

    Working with epoxy and plywood, some would recommend pretreating the ply with a layer of epoxy before the glue up, to limit the "sucking up" of the glue into the dry woodnm, and so make a better seal.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, I’m putting a lot of the stuff on both sides. Plywood definitely sucks it in more than regular wood!
      When it’s cold like that the epoxy is thick enough to have good amount when spreading. In warmer environments it’s much more liquid and harder to get thicker layers. Then it’s necessary to use wetting + thickened epoxy-method.

  • @ianrusso8790
    @ianrusso8790 7 місяців тому

    really nice, I cant wat till it starts resembling a boat, its going to be so cool

  • @makhoe1
    @makhoe1 7 місяців тому +7

    Controversial take. Structural integrity is the crux. When you are on the water, you won't care about a 5 in 1000mm slope in the bow portion of your deck and care even less about the 5 in 5000 slope amidships. You will feel the pain when you modify part after part. Love the show.

  • @davehine724
    @davehine724 7 місяців тому

    Rock on Panu!!! You always figure it out. Thanks for taking us along.

  • @graemerichardson4825
    @graemerichardson4825 7 місяців тому +1

    Lots of learning to come. Highs and lows are part of a fantastic journey!

  • @viltfjall
    @viltfjall 7 місяців тому

    Panu walking quickly on his new sidedeck = legendary! 😮 Best of luck forward, u are doing a fantastic job!

  • @CaptRobH
    @CaptRobH 7 місяців тому

    GREAT to see the shape of the boat take form !
    A couple of months ago, you where in a bit of a dark spot, but now I see light in your eyes again 👍🏻
    …. And that is very- very nice to see.
    Keep up the good spirit, she will be a beautiful ship.
    … and very symmetrical due to the exactness of the CNC.
    😁

  • @brianlord2636
    @brianlord2636 7 місяців тому

    Another great video! Perfection is an elusive target. You will be the only one who notices the tiny imperfections.

  • @waynerudiger1756
    @waynerudiger1756 7 місяців тому

    I've been burned by the variablilty in plywood as well. Probably a good principle to apply is to recognize that wood moves and plywood is unreliable so it's best to leave some extra space rather than the tight tollerances you are used to with the CNC pieces. It's a lot easier to shim than to cut away some of your forms. Best of luck sorting this out.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Yep, exactly. I've now learned the good tolerance between "puzzle joints" but with thickness-based tolerances, there's still things to learn.

  • @airspeedcl
    @airspeedcl 7 місяців тому

    I would say your mistake is close to a benefit of the slope helping to shed water if the other side was same then it would match and any cosmetic adjustment done once boat is flipped. Awesome to see is coming together and keep up the good work

  • @setian19
    @setian19 6 місяців тому

    You should sell it as diy-kit 👌

  • @jakobtheinventor
    @jakobtheinventor 7 місяців тому

    Great to see how UA-cam allow inspiration across the world. Panu, I am so impressed with your talents, grit and stamina. You master all disciplines and are of great inspiration. Be proud!!

  • @pertevonur471
    @pertevonur471 7 місяців тому

    Finally to look like a boat Panu go go .....👏

  • @smaggies
    @smaggies 7 місяців тому

    Great to always spend some time viewing your work Panu, amazing to start seeing the frame of your sailboat. Always best of luck toward the Build and will be here forever. :)

  • @davehine724
    @davehine724 7 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @samijokinen6923
    @samijokinen6923 7 місяців тому

    Nice work!

  • @bin_chicken80
    @bin_chicken80 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome work Panu. You're killing it. 👍

  • @paul_mln9515
    @paul_mln9515 7 місяців тому

    Keep up the work we re all there supporting you!!!

  • @toddablett4493
    @toddablett4493 7 місяців тому +1

    Another well made Video Panu, and the rib looked great in place! It starts to give the scale of the project. I have several times run into the problem of buying a plywood of a certain thickness and then finding out it is not the thickness they claim it to be. I now will measure with a micrometer if I am using the plywood on something technical. Not sure how you are going to solve the out of place side plywood but I guess challenges like that are just part of the process. I hope you can find a solution that is acceptable to you and not too much work. Thank you again for including us on this journey.

  • @Cptnbond
    @Cptnbond 7 місяців тому +1

    It's fantastic to see your dream taking shape, and the build technique is impressive, with such a perfect match of all the pieces. You deserve more subscribers and Patreons for your unique content. Cheers.

  • @ermiswelsch304
    @ermiswelsch304 7 місяців тому

    I think it is worth the effort to reglue the deck. Better get it right in the first place.
    Greetings from Germany :)

  • @bdroneadventures2231
    @bdroneadventures2231 7 місяців тому

    DANG! you work so hard … when this kind of thing happens you roll with it rather well…. Perhaps better than I would.

  • @scottgaskill3732
    @scottgaskill3732 7 місяців тому

    Good luck my friend, I know you’ll figure it out. What an incredible project! From Texas in the USA. I long for the temperatures you deal with.

  • @planecrazy9208
    @planecrazy9208 7 місяців тому

    You deserved a better outcome at this early stage. But a) you have learned from the experience; b) it's not a total disaster, not too difficult to remedy. At least yoou won't be compounding the error by building on the error. Good luck Panu I KNOW you will resolve this. :)

  • @kevinwatson5833
    @kevinwatson5833 7 місяців тому +1

    Old wheel weights are usually a good source for lead but im not sure if it would be in finland

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Harder to get every day. I think they don’t use lead anymore in new tire installations.

    • @kevinwatson5833
      @kevinwatson5833 7 місяців тому

      @@ArcticSeaCamel no i think the new stuff is zinc but old tire shops might have some laying around to get rid of

  • @lanerothsailing2293
    @lanerothsailing2293 7 місяців тому +2

    I love your videos

  • @dansstuff8341
    @dansstuff8341 7 місяців тому

    You can add sawdust to the epoxy to fill the voids.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Yep! Got a full sack of saw dust from Vendia’s big sanding machine!

  • @MegaImproviser
    @MegaImproviser 7 місяців тому

    Just a first thought about the gap. Could it be filled in by epoxying in thin wood strips. There would then be two joints instead of a gap. Sounds like it would be stronger. Then make adjustments to the frames so they will be in correct position for the rest of the boat.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      After this the gap has been “taken care of”. 😁
      As for strength, this seam is not really structural. And filled epoxy is stronger anyway than the wood. 😊

  • @LadyDewBuild
    @LadyDewBuild 7 місяців тому

    Epic glue up sir! Maybe too much. I wondered when you said how much you were going to do at once if errors would creep in. I'm sure with your skills you will figure this out as well. Thanks for sharing

  • @danielsondavidf
    @danielsondavidf 7 місяців тому

    Perseverance!

  • @bengtrosengren9624
    @bengtrosengren9624 7 місяців тому

    Gr8 work!

  • @robf9931
    @robf9931 7 місяців тому

    Details will always matter. It's always best to correct the mistake rather than bodge it and it comes back to bite you further down the line.

  • @videobob
    @videobob 7 місяців тому

    Bravo

  • @nitejazz
    @nitejazz 7 місяців тому +2

    Irritating but not a fatal flaw. Lucky to find it in a correctable stage so you can retire the flaw before it is unreachable or compounded til it needs a major tear out to fix. Remember mistakes turn in to knowledge and improved skill levels when caught in time. Take care my friend.

  • @billmeldrum2509
    @billmeldrum2509 7 місяців тому

    I’m curious about your epoxy… are you using thickened epoxy or just the liquid? Exciting stuff Panu! 🇨🇦

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Both. For the plywood joint, just plain epoxy rolled on both surfaces. For the seams it’s thickened.

  • @peterandersen1158
    @peterandersen1158 7 місяців тому

    It’s easier to correct the mistakes that compensate for the mistakes- Believe me.👍

  • @peterwilliams6633
    @peterwilliams6633 7 місяців тому

    Water levels never lie

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, but they're so slow to use...

    • @MUDNROCKS
      @MUDNROCKS 7 місяців тому

      I think he'd need glycerine or glycol in his neck of the woods.

    • @marisorbidans128
      @marisorbidans128 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MUDNROCKS Alcohol would too :)

  • @jpsuuronen
    @jpsuuronen 7 місяців тому

    In one of the previous chapters you made a dry fitting of those pieces, if remember correctly and at the time they fit ok. Did they suck in so much glue this time that the pieces had swollen now when gluing them?

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Not sure. But I think the glue wasn’t the cause. I did a dry fit but I didn’t push them all the way in (was afraid not to get them off in one piece)
      We did the other side with some additional modifications and it worked well 😊

  • @bradfordsimms715
    @bradfordsimms715 7 місяців тому +2

    Perfection should be strived for but can never be achieved , adjust and move on

  • @normanperry4391
    @normanperry4391 7 місяців тому

    That plywood. It has court me out as well. But fixing it will make you a better boat builder and a where next time

  • @pgsharrow3714
    @pgsharrow3714 7 місяців тому

    Panu, I examined your posting a second time to better understand the problem, in this case the bullwork to deck joint looks built in to the point it can't be changed. correction at the keel mold and frames seems to be the only logical choice. Life moves on. ;-) good luck ...pg

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Hi there. And thanks for watching! 👀
      I have fixed the issue after filming this video. I cut the wall off from the bottom with chainsaw. The chainsaw blade was wide enough to allow the deck to drop back on the mold to correct height. I will fill the remaining gap with epoxy goop later. 😊

  • @Finn-McCool
    @Finn-McCool 7 місяців тому

    If there are tire mounting shops near you they might sell you their disposed lead balance weights if you offer over recycle price?

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      There is but I think they don’t use lead anymore in those weights…

  • @georgef7754
    @georgef7754 7 місяців тому +4

    Watching you watching duracell.

  • @stewkingjr
    @stewkingjr 7 місяців тому

    You know, if that spacing , i think the finnish expression for it is paskaa tapahtuu, is the only error you make, you have done well! Simply make a shim for the space and move on. British and american boatbuilders in the 1900s used to measure to the 1/8 inch (~3mm) for most of the hull and no closer than 1/16 (1.6mm) for interior joinery and their boats have looked good and sailed well. Carry on!

  • @shovelover
    @shovelover 7 місяців тому

    Im surprised you didn't use a thickened pour of epoxy.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому +1

      The low temperature makes the epoxy thick enough to use it just as is.
      If it was warmer it would be too liquid to roll enough of the stuff in the surfaces and then I’d need to put additional thickening to it.
      For the gap seams I used thickened goop to have enough and to make it stay there.

    • @shovelover
      @shovelover 7 місяців тому

      @@ArcticSeaCamel the cold really changes everything doesn't it? Thanks for explaiing. Makes good sense.
      Project is going awesome by the way. Good Job!

    • @shovelover
      @shovelover 7 місяців тому

      In Hawaii we would wet both surfaces with thin, then apply another layer of thickened to laminate. We would look for a lot of squeeze out to ensure a full bond. Clean up would be done with a bucket of vinegar, spatulas and rag. The vinegar is an excellent clean up trick, as you probably know. Depending how clean you work, you can always clean up with a flappy bird when it’s dry. Also I was thinking that you can always use the plastic wrap trick to break up the processes, when you find yourself in situations where the squeeze out will make for difficult cleanup….

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому +1

      @@shovelover Yep, that's the "more common" way to do it. As far as I know (referring with the Gougeon Brothers' book) the reason is exactly to have enough glue there for the wood to suck. In my case I can see no need for putting the thickened stuff there - IF I can put enough glue without it. There's nice smallish squeeze out from between the plywoods. As mentioned though, in the beginning there was little bit on the lower side. But I bet it's enough. Epoxy is way stronger than the plywood anyway...
      And if I was concerned that there's not enough, I could actually thicken the epoxy just a little bit to still to be able to roll it in in thick enough layer.

    • @shovelover
      @shovelover 7 місяців тому

      @@ArcticSeaCamel fore sure - it's an amazing project. keep up the good work. im sure it gets overwhelming. the project makes sense though. thats a nice comfort.

  • @neiltaylor-o9x
    @neiltaylor-o9x 7 місяців тому

    just stop working when you need rest or mistakes happen sorry, love the show

  • @daleskidmore1685
    @daleskidmore1685 7 місяців тому

    I know you are used to large epoxy glue ups, so you take them in your stride now. But they still seem monumental to us normal people, ha, ha. I have found rollers just seem to soak up more epoxy than the wood does.

  • @phrasantacitto7186
    @phrasantacitto7186 7 місяців тому

    👍👍

  • @pmacgowan
    @pmacgowan 7 місяців тому

    You can Macgyver it

  • @Davidjeng049
    @Davidjeng049 7 місяців тому

    Hi, It's a pity your son is not helping out on such a large project for the day.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому +2

      He has his own life 😅

    • @the-naked-sailor
      @the-naked-sailor 7 місяців тому

      Lolololololoolololol something tells me he may be a hindrance rather than a help.

  • @Finn-McCool
    @Finn-McCool 7 місяців тому

    It's not only about the plywood tolerance but also your FASTENINGS. never assume two surfaces are meeting. And use fasteners to ensure right joinery.
    I'm gutted about this my friend. Hang in there.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Yep! There was hundreds of screws to pull the sheets together while gluing.
      That mistake though, I didn’t even suspect that could happen. The pieces are heavy so gravity was on my side.
      Lesson learned there.

    • @Finn-McCool
      @Finn-McCool 7 місяців тому

      @@ArcticSeaCamel
      I felt so bad, seeing you walk up the side of the deck it was obvious that something went very wrong. 😢
      I'm not a boat builder, however as a cabinetmaker I can recommend what is called a "piss coat". Whether you are dealing with adhesive, laquer, polyurethane etc etc. In order to handle the absorbtion issue. It's an extra step in the process, however it really does help in situations like you are dealing with on this particular step in the process. A highly thinned coat, lightly applied, will seal the substrate and afford much better adhesion.
      Once the piss coat dries, or cures in this case, the job becomes 100% more reliable. 👍🏽

  • @jakobusphsteyn3500
    @jakobusphsteyn3500 7 місяців тому

    Just keep up the effort and if at all possible fix the mistake now because there might be other unforeseen problems cropping up in the future. Annoying but that is part of doing things especially that has not been tried before by any other individual we know about.

  • @pgsharrow3714
    @pgsharrow3714 7 місяців тому +1

    I would suggest you take the time and effort to correct the mistake NOW before you continue. It will save you a bunch of misery later because everything will become a battle of corrections and you will learn to regret not fixing it now. Consider it a part of your education, Check EVERYTHING, assume nothing. Actually, in my opinion, you are doing quite well with this massive project you have undertaken. In my younger years I have done several massive projects on my own. Unexpected problems caused by others less quality work is the rule not the exception. ...pg

  • @sailingbronco9869
    @sailingbronco9869 7 місяців тому

    Now is the only chance you’ll have to fix it properly. If you work around the mistake you will always regret it and it will come up again later without any possibility of relief. Of course it doesn’t have to be perfect but trimming your perfect frames is a compromise you will not be happy with.

  • @ianlangley987
    @ianlangley987 7 місяців тому

    What a shame about the small error in your glue up. Just give it some thought before you fix it as its probably as simple as a bit of filling and faring. You are so methodical in your process so dont't hammer yourself too much. Its looking good. Great work. ian

  • @MUDNROCKS
    @MUDNROCKS 7 місяців тому

    Mark it up to shit happens and get on with it. Re-work is inevitable sooner or later, the trick it to not fall into the trap of being afraid to do it over cos honestly trying to adjust everything else to correct for a bad foundation always ends in tears.

  • @andrewmullen4003
    @andrewmullen4003 7 місяців тому

    I'm sorry, but you can't move a laser around an uneven floor and expect constant results

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Laser _should_ self align to level. The exact height wasn’t really important here 😊

  • @kieranmerritt1694
    @kieranmerritt1694 6 місяців тому

    Like @aquasapien said......Every process on this build is novel, nothing is routine, sorry to see things did not go as planned. Be brave, getting it right now will pay off later. .
    Draw some courage from Nordic friend Sven Yrvind who at 85 years has the courage to say, lets start again from the beginning. ua-cam.com/video/FJrpGz1XxLE/v-deo.html.and build it the way I want it. This is your boat, your dream, live it how you want it.
    All power to you.

  • @Peo_Sahlin
    @Peo_Sahlin 7 місяців тому

    I like your videos, but the very loud music is so annoying. You don't need any music at all, it's completely unnecessary and often at an annoyingly high volume.

    • @ArcticSeaCamel
      @ArcticSeaCamel  7 місяців тому

      Oh, I tried to put it even lower this time... 🤔
      EDIT: And the challenge of course is to get the levels as high as possible for not to be too low compared for the ads that pop up randomly. If my sounds are much lower, people need to raise the volume and when ad comes - it's much higher which is even more annoying.

    • @the-naked-sailor
      @the-naked-sailor 7 місяців тому

      "Loud"? I've heard worse. Not only that, panu produces his own music. He's one talented human.