The liquidators were very brave men, they knew they would likely die or at the very least severe radiation sickness from exposure to radiation and yet they went anyway.
@@mirrage42More than that. They knew that if they didn't someone else would have to go instead. Survivor guilt when you said no, would be very hard to live with.
Very well displayed. As an ex- Senior control engineer the tension and the communication for these tests is very recognizable ( testing is always at night or in the weekends ,when power demand is low) . Although in Europe a Deputy Chief Engineer doesn't outrank a on duty Chief Engineer. So the decision-making is always his responsibility.
Dysfunctional authority awareness& asserting wisdom problem done in cockpit of planes after many tragic crashes. Nobody can cross Russian habitual hierarchy
29:54 Wrong picture of what is going on. The graphite "tips" are 4.5 m long and never leave the reactor when fully withdrawn. They are attached with a telescopic follower. When the control rods are fully withdrawn the graphite is centered inside the 7 m tall core. When AZ-5 is pushed no graphite gets inserted into the core, it just moves downwards and out of the core and boron moves in at the top. If neutrons are evenly distributed throughout the core this can never lead to an increase in reactivity. But the RBMK is very large and the bottom of the core can be critical while the top of the core is not. If neurons are distributed in an undesirable way the graphite moves closer to the bottom of the core where most of the neutrons are while boron moves into the core where there already aren't any neutrons and this is a net increase in reactivity.
So do you think if the core were smaller this possibly wouldn't have happened? Do you know of any documentaries that discuss what really happened accurately?
PS. Take notice that the phone call was recorded, but that wasn't due just because it was such an "important industrial site", or because the "fire department" or some "dispatcher" recorded it... but because - believe it or not - ALL PHONES WERE TAPPED. The "amighty party" must always know - 24/7 - what the SUBJECTS are doing and thinking about in their "paradise of workers and peasants."
When East Germany was reunited with West German to become one Germany in 1990. Immediately nuclear experts were sent to inspect East Germany's power plants. The inspectors were in total shock of how bad the situation was. Not one reactor passed even basic safety standards. Immediately, all Nuclear Power Plants in the East were closed down. Also emergency standards were immediately ordered to decontaminate areas as well as the surrounding areas.
Where did you see that, not saying you're wrong just would be really interesting to see (if you can remember that is though, as know I've read or watched things from ages ago and can't remember).
That’s not true. Rheinnsberg was the first in the 60s and was state of the art for the time. Most of the GDR nuclear plants were VVER light water plants and were essentially a soviet version of the American PWR first built in Novovoronezh in the 60s and continued to be improved upon even to this day. Very safe and effective plants. The reasons for a newly united Germany to abandon nuclear was a complex issue centered mostly on the requirement to conform to western standards for nuclear energy. That doesn’t mean the VVER was unsafe at all. The plants weren’t designed around the western spec and would require extensive redesign and retrofitting which would have cost a lot of money. There is a detailed report in the IAEA archives if you dig around you can find it. Also Hans Blix did a seminar of the subject which you can probably find as well.
the guy with the glasses telling the boss to do the test by the book is like the guy who designed the rocket for space shuttle to not lauch that cold of a temperature.....both proven right
47:27 According to wikipedia Dyatlov died from bone marrow cancer "which was almost certainly caused by his radiation poisoning from the accident." So what is it?
They push the Soviet narrative heavily in most of the portrayals of Chernobyl. But let’s not forget, these were all people with lives, families, hopes, dreams. It’s a terrible tragedy.
A tragedy indeed, but likely no where near as bad had the soviet narrative played such a large role in how bad the disaster got. It was the soviets pride that caused the widespread suffering due to not evacuating sooner.
5:28 The reactor being referred to here was built by the French, not the Russians, and I really don't know how such a mistake could be made. Operation Opera is well documented.
There's still years here in Norway where mushrooms in the mountains shouldn't be eaten, and reindeer have to be put to death and their meat destroyed, because reindeer live of lichen that suck up as lot of minerals. All because of the clouds of radiation that came over Scandinavia. So I can't imagine those that still stubbornly live inside the Exclusion Zone, what kind of health problems they might face.
This was the best ever Movie made. Watching it made it seem ever more so real. These Actors need to be awarded with a life time AWARD like they have in the Film Industry.
Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima all had one commonality. They all involved a situation that the builders and operators had never considered could happen that in hindsight should have been considered. Nuclear power is safe when it's parameters are respected. Unfortunately, corporate (or in the USSR's case the state) desire to push an agenda that abuses or neglects that is what leads to these accidents.
At 5:20 re the Israeli attack on the Iraqi nuclear power plant, if this was the 7 June 1981 attack, this was an Iraqi reactor under construction by the French, not the Russians. It was less than a month before it became critical when struck by Israeli F-16A fighter jets .
What a great reenactment.after watching the HBO series,it's easy to want to blame dyatlov for pushing the reactor that hard but he's right,I think if they had all the info he would not have done it.
@@mirrage42 We already have that. The IRS acts like a mafia. They can lose millions of dollars but they will threaten you with jail time and hassle you over $50!
@@ChrisHalliganLawwhile the HBO series is very well done I remember watching this one years before it came out and loving it. Both are great in their own ways, there are other movies about this as well. I think one is called inseparable, it's pretty well done!
The fact that the other reactors are still functioning, tells me that its NOT the reactor's fault. If the test had been done with to planned parameters (700 not 200) and they didnt remove the rids entirely, it would have probably worked fine. No, it's the boss's fault. Definitely.
Other RBMK reactors, or the the 4 at Chernobyl? They were steadily decommissioned and are now shut down. I think there are half a dozen or so still operational in Russia, they were updated to supposedly rectify shortcomings but they have invested heavily in their PWR (VVER) designs since then.
Can someone tell me how it was filmed at the surviving parts of the power station? I thought no one could go near this whole area for hundreds of years?
Saw something about how all the radioactive cattle beef was in a refrigerator train that No one would accept traveling for 2 years. Then finally ground up and dilluted into sausage that went across the USSR except for Moscow and St. Petersburg. 500,000 pounds of highly radioactive meat. 😮😮
500'000 tons of beef kepf fresh for 4 years .... Are you for real? You probably believe that the earth is flat, deep state and the moon lamdings were faked.
Running the reactor at extremely low power poisoned the reactor core with xenon Then they pulled out all the control rods and the reactor ran away from them and exploded after they scrammed the reactor because the graphite tips on the control rods sent the reactor over the edge. If they hadn’t ran the reactor at low power the xenon would have burned away If they hadn’t pulled all the control rods, the explosion never would have happened
I love how they make it seem like there were only three people in the control room that night, there was actually over 20. There were 600 people on the grounds of the plant, including 150 construction workers building reactors 5 and 6. According to the INSAG-7 report there was no argument, Dyatlov gave orders and others followed them calmly.
@CasMackay it's been discussed by plenty of nuclear scientists. What a poor argument to suggest that since OP isn't one, they can't come to a conclusion many scientists would agree with. Highly suggest you check out *ThatChernobylGuy* and watch his content backed by the investigation papers as sources along with testimony of international nuclear scientists that question the report released by Soviet scientists after the accident.
The only incompetent person in the control room that night was Dyatlov. Thanks to him, the safety test turned out to be a nuclear catastrophe 🤦🏼♀️ I've seen the mini series about Chernobyl. One of the best.
Dyatlov wasn't making the operating decisions on the reactor. He was a turbine expert, not a nuclear engineer. The operators knew what was not allowed and what was dangerous to do, and they did it anyway. He demanded they get the reactor to the power level to run the test, but he didn't tell them how to do it. The mini-series was a horror movie, not a documentary. Lots of distortions, speculations, urban legends, and flat out impossibilities.
@@emichan18 - He really was an unpleasant man, which made him an easy choice for someone to shove under the bus. What was unusual by Soviet standards was that his superiors still got their share of the punishment.
That series got so much wrong. Even the basics. Fission is not a result of the kinetic energy of a moderated neutron strike on a U235 nucleus, fission happens when a U235 nucleus absorbs a moderated neutron, becoming the unstable U236, 85% of which will split. And the entire description of how the control rods worked was totally wrong. The rods don't just slow reactivity by absorbing neutrons, they also increase reactivity when withdrawn. The rods never are never completely withdrawn, even when fully extracted. That's one reason why they had graphite tips. So many other details wrong.
Some of these comments have really destroyed my faith in the school system as history is something that I guess just isn’t covered anymore… or if it is it’s a class you take once a week for 45 minutes. Crazy how quickly a world can forget, who cares that the exclusion zone is still so irradiated it still won’t be safe to live in for another 24,970 years. Don’t believe me? Just ask the Russian soldiers how they’re feeling who all had the bright idea to dig foxholes and trenches in the exclusion zone around Chernobyl. There’s a reason the Russians didn’t stay in that area for too long and it’s not because they were “pushed out” it’s because they realized that they just made an absolutely HORRIBLE mistake by having them “dig in” around Chernobyl.
I’ve read that the AZ5 flaw was a wash anyway. Once they had a power surge, it was game over. Even if the rods weren’t misdesigned, there was no way to prevent a meltdown
Despite popular theory, the power surge came after the control rods entered. The AZ-5 button was in fact pushed twice. The test was completed and they decided to scram the reactor as it was due for maintenance anyhow. And both Akimov and Toptunov when interviewed in Moscow Hospital 6 claimed there was no argument and Dyatlov was in fact very calm that night.
@@andyroberts805 Not true. All the control room operators attested to the argument as depicted. Dyatlov was a prick and everybody knew it. He was a man on his own mission and it was his way or the highway. His hubris and determination to run the test out of stated parameters caused the accident.
It seems like Dyatlov was the one at fault. If there were safety restrictions in place, he had clearly ignored them. I love this movie. I’ve gone looking for the book “Ablaze”but it seems to be out of print.
Its so horrible they really dont need the hype amd acting. As soon as that roof blows you know its releasing cesium amd iodine into the wind.. Nightmare
In the end, the Chernobyl tragedy is a prime example of what can happen in the hands and control (or lack thereof) as a result of human arrogance in terms of failure and technology and the very thought that any kind of technology can be totally flawless. It unavoidably leads to misjudgements and over- and underestimations and then a long chain of mistakes and miscalculations are very likely to take place. Probably then the most dangerous combination of paradigmes may be the one made of arrogance combined with denial of any possibility of failure. This for example results in denial in the form of the sort of cover ups og serious accidents within the Sovjet Union. Potentially leading to the loss of any chance of increasing the safely level in different technologies in general, though especially in terms of the nuclear industry. I guess that by default, one of the most dangerous paradigmes of the human race truly is the very idea of believing that technology itself can be totally flawless and is unable to fail. Simply because no human being is absolutely flawless. It has its roots in the very nature of existing as a human bring. In this way I guess one can argue that humans are their own worst enemy in terms if safety technology- wise. Another example of this disastrous way of thinking is the construction and use of Titanic. Both these major tragedies have very long lasting devastating consequences in each their own unique ways. I guess though that deep down of course the Chernobyl accident had by far the most far reaching destructive consequences because of the very nature of the accident. Arrogance in many ways is the most potentially dangerous character flaw human beings can possibly have when it comes to claiming to be absolutely flawless and unable to make mistakes. At a personal level but indeed also at the large scale of a whole society and the world as a whole.
That argument with Dyatlov never happened. That's the propaganda line from the Soviet government. Dyatlov wrote the guidelines for the test, which every other RBMK operations team refused to do. He defended the actions of the unit 4 operators until he died.
Dyatlov: "The commission is to blame for not providing the proper documentation" Kinda like the documentation you were given stating the test should not be run below 700 MW that you ignored?
Dyatlov did have big part to this. But i think most fault were Aleksandrov and Dollezhal. Aleksandrov did design RMBK reactor and NIKET director Dollezhal did know the faults and still did keep engineers in dark without information how to handle the reactor with its design "features" (faults).
@DynamicSeq Control rods did have graphite tips, what was also one major thing. Because of the instability, an RBMK reactor that loses its coolant can under certain circumstances increase in reactivity and run progressively faster and hotter rather than shut itself down.
I am not here to tell anyone how it happened, just asking questions... I've heard that the engineers who designed the plant knew there was a possibility of melt down. They told Russia but they didn't do anything...either too costly to fix or they were out of time. It seemed like the blame went further up the chain to those who didn't know about nuclear power. I majored in nursing, not nuclear power, so the research I've done is either over my head or the same thing. Or HBO's series.
Yeah it's funny how there were no arguments and the only time Dyatlov raised his voice was after the explosion. But there has to be a bad guy it can't be the state...
Public service announcement. Virtually everything you see in this well made but dated documentary is incorrect. Read book by Adam Higgingbotham "Midnight in Chernobyl" for the true story, what he got from interviewing real people who were there at the time. Most people that were in the control room are still alive today.
In 1986 my daughter would have been three and I was twentyfour, it's horrifying that we don't have any say in what happens in our world, because it's our planet, yours and mine. And I know I didn't have a choice or condone such a fatal form of power on our world
Toptunov before he died continually claimed they did everything they were supposed to do his words never represented anything like is being represented in this portrayal.
So let’s trust the guy that ran away at 14 just because he is a nuclear engineer. I would never trust a run away. All that lets me know is that you’ve been undisciplined from the jump. Unless it’s for other reasons of course.
They guarantee the guys doing the test didn’t realize how much the Russian government cut quarters on the reactor so the information on the reactor probably wasn’t accurate enough and all the little things they did not do right building the reactor showed it’s ugly head that night💥
I love watching this Movie. At least 400 times or more, and will watch it many times more, this film is way better than all the Films I have ever watched.
@@Eat-MyGoal Ya I know. Every once in a while UA-cam glitches and the comments are for the video you just watched but the video you are seeing is a new video. I was watching the a clip from the HBO show after this and the comments glitched back yo this.
It was not an accident the order came from stalinist, 'soviet unioskaja'. They didn't like Gorbatshov. Some Asian people, originally from Checheny etc claims that they live there just as that. Lenin was from area which is nowadays Checheny.
World leaders need to somehow think about humanity before their own political and power cause. People need to not be afraid of questioning their bosses... regardless of the outcome. No job is worth the life of another
It's a nice dramatization, but that's all it is. No one but the people who were in that control room know what happened. The "official" reports and records were thoroughly sanitized by the KGB before being released. Even the Ukrainian government hasn't released much more about the accident. This is just another drama written by someone who WAS NOT involved in the incident, and probably never talked to any of the parties involved. After all, the majority of them are dead at this point.
3:47 Dyatlov "... it's not your job to think."
Seconds later: "...Where did I get such idiots?"
Maybe he's the idiot.
@@DarkLink606 The Peter Principle applies with that guy.
Shut up. He has proven to the staff multiple times that he is innocent
A narcissist?
I do believe he is.
Smart people are known to be rude
The liquidators were very brave men, they knew they would likely die or at the very least severe radiation sickness from exposure to radiation and yet they went anyway.
Like they had a choice.
@@mirrage42More than that. They knew that if they didn't someone else would have to go instead. Survivor guilt when you said no, would be very hard to live with.
@mirrage42 Alot of convicts and conscripts. Plus the true number the USSR pulled in from its satellite countries isn't well known.
That's called living in a communist country.
The needs of the many outweigh the few, they knew this.
Very well displayed. As an ex- Senior control engineer the tension and the communication for these tests is very recognizable ( testing is always at night or in the weekends ,when power demand is low) . Although in Europe a Deputy Chief Engineer doesn't outrank a on duty Chief Engineer. So the decision-making is always his responsibility.
Indeed.
Dysfunctional authority awareness& asserting wisdom problem done in cockpit of planes after many tragic crashes. Nobody can cross Russian habitual hierarchy
3 comments doubtful they are uman
29:54 Wrong picture of what is going on. The graphite "tips" are 4.5 m long and never leave the reactor when fully withdrawn. They are attached with a telescopic follower. When the control rods are fully withdrawn the graphite is centered inside the 7 m tall core. When AZ-5 is pushed no graphite gets inserted into the core, it just moves downwards and out of the core and boron moves in at the top. If neutrons are evenly distributed throughout the core this can never lead to an increase in reactivity. But the RBMK is very large and the bottom of the core can be critical while the top of the core is not. If neurons are distributed in an undesirable way the graphite moves closer to the bottom of the core where most of the neutrons are while boron moves into the core where there already aren't any neutrons and this is a net increase in reactivity.
Finally someone understands
This. Thanks
So do you think if the core were smaller this possibly wouldn't have happened? Do you know of any documentaries that discuss what really happened accurately?
Outstanding presentation of an event and of its consequences, which become more terrifying the more you learn of it.
the power went off at that power station and so did the subtitles 😂 but absolutely amazing work
of the 46 Chernobyl documentary this is the best one, lots of details and probably a hint of drama makes it interesting
More like lots of drama and probably a hint of details.
@Gonken88 still the best... out of 46
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 The battle of Chernobyl is much better.
Murphy's Law in action.... bad design, bad management/procedure, bad schedule, bad operator.... all waiting to happens and its on 26-April-1986.
PS. Take notice that the phone call was recorded, but that wasn't due just because it was such an "important industrial site", or because the "fire department" or some "dispatcher" recorded it... but because - believe it or not - ALL PHONES WERE TAPPED. The "amighty party" must always know - 24/7 - what the SUBJECTS are doing and thinking about in their "paradise of workers and peasants."
America is the same way. Don't DARE think for a second we're not.
You don't need such stress on these facts, everyone knows the USSR was paranoid and in no way a paradise.
When East Germany was reunited with West German to become one Germany in 1990. Immediately nuclear experts were sent to inspect East Germany's power plants.
The inspectors were in total shock of how bad the situation was. Not one reactor passed even basic safety standards.
Immediately, all Nuclear Power Plants in the East were closed down.
Also emergency standards were immediately ordered to decontaminate areas as well as the surrounding areas.
How did you learn about this? Asking as an American whose public school education didn't specifically examine German reunification.
Where did you see that, not saying you're wrong just would be really interesting to see (if you can remember that is though, as know I've read or watched things from ages ago and can't remember).
That’s not true. Rheinnsberg was the first in the 60s and was state of the art for the time. Most of the GDR nuclear plants were VVER light water plants and were essentially a soviet version of the American PWR first built in Novovoronezh in the 60s and continued to be improved upon even to this day. Very safe and effective plants. The reasons for a newly united Germany to abandon nuclear was a complex issue centered mostly on the requirement to conform to western standards for nuclear energy. That doesn’t mean the VVER was unsafe at all. The plants weren’t designed around the western spec and would require extensive redesign and retrofitting which would have cost a lot of money. There is a detailed report in the IAEA archives if you dig around you can find it. Also Hans Blix did a seminar of the subject which you can probably find as well.
Where did you hear about this. I’m not saying you’re wrong either. I’m just curious.
Got a source?
the guy with the glasses telling the boss to do the test by the book is like the guy who designed the rocket for space shuttle to not lauch that cold of a temperature.....both proven right
I've watched HBO's Chernobyl series and it was praised for the performances of the actors, the tone and historical accuracy's.
Except it wasn't accurate about the people and the events, and many other things.
@@maksphoto78that's Hollywood for you.
@@russellloomis4376 An HBO show
@@maksphoto78yep. Dyatlov’s demonisation by the series was grossly unfair, and the role of legasov was far more equivocal.
The Chernobyl series on HBO was absolutely TERRIFYING!
47:27
According to wikipedia Dyatlov died from bone marrow cancer "which was almost certainly caused by his radiation poisoning from the accident."
So what is it?
And the previous accident he caused in the Soviet submarine service. ua-cam.com/video/C97AWUfkCO8/v-deo.html Dyatlov himself was a 'ticking timebomb'!
This is my favourite account of the incident. I've watched this several times.
Same it's the best one.
Ive been looking for this version for years. Im so happy its posted
No lcd displays, just wonderfully glowing Nixies. And no graphite tips, just long graphite rods.
They push the Soviet narrative heavily in most of the portrayals of Chernobyl. But let’s not forget, these were all people with lives, families, hopes, dreams. It’s a terrible tragedy.
Communists aren't people.
A tragedy indeed, but likely no where near as bad had the soviet narrative played such a large role in how bad the disaster got. It was the soviets pride that caused the widespread suffering due to not evacuating sooner.
You can see the ionized electrons striking the film.
It’s the little white dots.
It’s wild
5:28 The reactor being referred to here was built by the French, not the Russians, and I really don't know how such a mistake could be made. Operation Opera is well documented.
There's still years here in Norway where mushrooms in the mountains shouldn't be eaten, and reindeer have to be put to death and their meat destroyed, because reindeer live of lichen that suck up as lot of minerals. All because of the clouds of radiation that came over Scandinavia. So I can't imagine those that still stubbornly live inside the Exclusion Zone, what kind of health problems they might face.
This was the best ever Movie made. Watching it made it seem ever more so real. These Actors need to be awarded with a life time AWARD like they have in the Film Industry.
AGREED!! ❤❤
What movie? This is better than the HBO series?
It’s a show.
Settle down.
At least the Japanese can rightly blame a tsunami
Nah toepco violated safety protocols, and built the backup generators in a flood prone area.
Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima all had one commonality. They all involved a situation that the builders and operators had never considered could happen that in hindsight should have been considered.
Nuclear power is safe when it's parameters are respected. Unfortunately, corporate (or in the USSR's case the state) desire to push an agenda that abuses or neglects that is what leads to these accidents.
@@scarpfishYou forgot Windscale. Hindsight 20:20. 🤦♂️
At 5:20 re the Israeli attack on the Iraqi nuclear power plant, if this was the 7 June 1981 attack, this was an Iraqi reactor under construction by the French, not the Russians. It was less than a month before it became critical when struck by Israeli F-16A fighter jets .
How was this free best doc ive ever seen
Best Chernobyl documentary ever.
Truly sad that this happened. It shouldn't have happened. What a loss in so many levels of human character by negligence.
What a great reenactment.after watching the HBO series,it's easy to want to blame dyatlov for pushing the reactor that hard but he's right,I think if they had all the info he would not have done it.
“Rushed to get reactor number 4 early so they and their party could get substantial bonuses. Safety came second.” Disgusting. 😡😡
I personally love learning about the history of our allies in WW2
Those who entered the heavy water were true Heroes of the Nation and duly Honoured Eternally
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Even to this day it's so hard to believe this could happen under the watch of all those men with mustaches
How could such an unlikely thing happen?
This is very well done. Leave it to the BBC. They truly pump out continuously top quality television programming
And propaganda!
@djmossssomjd8496 if you want propaganda, watch Fox News
this is what happens when people live their lives with a gun pointed at the back of their heads.
As we in the US will soon find out.
@@mirrage42more fear mongering. The left are the authoritarians, not the right.
@@mirrage42
We already have that. The IRS acts like a mafia.
They can lose millions of dollars but they will threaten you with jail time and hassle you over $50!
Exactly.
@@mirrage42
Really? How so?
Oooooh, I’m guessing because Trump is President again?
We were living so bad 2016-2020. I’m scared.
Even the Alarm system is a lovely noise. Better than the music we play today.
Better than the hbo series?
@@ChrisHalliganLawwhile the HBO series is very well done I remember watching this one years before it came out and loving it. Both are great in their own ways, there are other movies about this as well. I think one is called inseparable, it's pretty well done!
Very well done video...
Good series minute by minute
It takes awhile to realize just how thick someone really is
Power hungry people are the main cause of every problem.
They want to get paid
@@joepurrp814 The root of all evil
@@essddenn8668than how will you live when you are not paid?
@@aregmartirosyan2076 Thats not the point.
their ego
The fact that the other reactors are still functioning, tells me that its NOT the reactor's fault. If the test had been done with to planned parameters (700 not 200) and they didnt remove the rids entirely, it would have probably worked fine. No, it's the boss's fault. Definitely.
Other RBMK reactors, or the the 4 at Chernobyl? They were steadily decommissioned and are now shut down. I think there are half a dozen or so still operational in Russia, they were updated to supposedly rectify shortcomings but they have invested heavily in their PWR (VVER) designs since then.
So what was really learned from that test
The details of this disastrous accident makes this production suspenseful!
Was the shots for the first five minutes from New Chernobyl or a older one with Alexander played by the exact same actor
Can someone tell me how it was filmed at the surviving parts of the power station? I thought no one could go near this whole area for hundreds of years?
Reactors 1, 2, and 3 were all operational until 1991, 1996, and 2000 respectively.
6:49 anyone else hear "ran away from home at the age of 40"
I heard 14
I heard 40 as well 😂
No, 14. Clean your ears
Saw something about how all the radioactive cattle beef was in a refrigerator train that No one would accept traveling for 2 years. Then finally ground up and dilluted into sausage that went across the USSR except for Moscow and St. Petersburg. 500,000 pounds of highly radioactive meat. 😮😮
4 years…
Does that surprise you? Considering how modern conscription is done in Russia is very similar it doesn't surprise me at all.
@@JamesMaddux-w1cwhat is your comment even about? 4 years?
@@runechuckie They drove the train around the country for 4 years…
500'000 tons of beef kepf fresh for 4 years .... Are you for real? You probably believe that the earth is flat, deep state and the moon lamdings were faked.
Well done 👏 👏
Really good program 👍🏻
Dust. Steam. Darkness. Damn, sounds like a 1986 Niva 4x4....
Even the KGB said to Dyatlov that you should not insult your staff.
Buddy blames the reactor 😅 bro if you would have kept it between 700 and 1000 mw you wouldn't have killed everyone.
The reactor was choked. Once they began lowering power it was going to drop like a rock no matter what
Truth.
Running the reactor at extremely low power poisoned the reactor core with xenon
Then they pulled out all the control rods and the reactor ran away from them and exploded after they scrammed the reactor because the graphite tips on the control rods sent the reactor over the edge.
If they hadn’t ran the reactor at low power the xenon would have burned away
If they hadn’t pulled all the control rods, the explosion never would have happened
There's nothing more dangerous than an idiot who thinks they're a genius
It wasn't a "safety test"; it was an experiment. And despite popular mythology, it wasn't "required".
Exactly, but how often do these documentries come up anything close to accurate? They all some something different about this.
I love how they make it seem like there were only three people in the control room that night, there was actually over 20. There were 600 people on the grounds of the plant, including 150 construction workers building reactors 5 and 6. According to the INSAG-7 report there was no argument, Dyatlov gave orders and others followed them calmly.
Wrong
@CasMackay it's been discussed by plenty of nuclear scientists. What a poor argument to suggest that since OP isn't one, they can't come to a conclusion many scientists would agree with.
Highly suggest you check out *ThatChernobylGuy* and watch his content backed by the investigation papers as sources along with testimony of international nuclear scientists that question the report released by Soviet scientists after the accident.
@@CasMackay So you don't like how OP worded it?
Very good doc
The only incompetent person in the control room that night was Dyatlov. Thanks to him, the safety test turned out to be a nuclear catastrophe 🤦🏼♀️
I've seen the mini series about Chernobyl. One of the best.
Dyatlov wasn't making the operating decisions on the reactor. He was a turbine expert, not a nuclear engineer. The operators knew what was not allowed and what was dangerous to do, and they did it anyway. He demanded they get the reactor to the power level to run the test, but he didn't tell them how to do it.
The mini-series was a horror movie, not a documentary. Lots of distortions, speculations, urban legends, and flat out impossibilities.
The miniseries takes a lot of liberties with facts.
The miniseries was well-written and produced, but far from historically accurate! Dyatlov was not nearly as villainous as the show paints him to be.
@@emichan18 - He really was an unpleasant man, which made him an easy choice for someone to shove under the bus. What was unusual by Soviet standards was that his superiors still got their share of the punishment.
That series got so much wrong. Even the basics. Fission is not a result of the kinetic energy of a moderated neutron strike on a U235 nucleus, fission happens when a U235 nucleus absorbs a moderated neutron, becoming the unstable U236, 85% of which will split. And the entire description of how the control rods worked was totally wrong. The rods don't just slow reactivity by absorbing neutrons, they also increase reactivity when withdrawn. The rods never are never completely withdrawn, even when fully extracted. That's one reason why they had graphite tips. So many other details wrong.
*i did watch this before. If you didn't watch This, Watch First to HBO Mini-Series: Chernobyl. Because you will Understand it.*
The mini series sucks at explaining anything. It's weaponized narration from poor sources.
Not much to understand. Risky "test". Reactor Go Boom. Bury it in concrete. Many People die really bad deaths. No go zone.
They didn't have an independent electrical power supply for the control room? Am I right about this?
The guy in charge was named Dyatlov? Coincidence? I think not!
The dyatlov pass incident brilliant documentary shame all the kids died massive cover up that I think .
I thought Dyatlov was on the toilet.
my eyes... the goggles do nothing
Some of these comments have really destroyed my faith in the school system as history is something that I guess just isn’t covered anymore… or if it is it’s a class you take once a week for 45 minutes.
Crazy how quickly a world can forget, who cares that the exclusion zone is still so irradiated it still won’t be safe to live in for another 24,970 years. Don’t believe me? Just ask the Russian soldiers how they’re feeling who all had the bright idea to dig foxholes and trenches in the exclusion zone around Chernobyl. There’s a reason the Russians didn’t stay in that area for too long and it’s not because they were “pushed out” it’s because they realized that they just made an absolutely HORRIBLE mistake by having them “dig in” around Chernobyl.
Dyatlov….Pass 💀Coincidence?
I bet that this still affects all of us now...
I’ve read that the AZ5 flaw was a wash anyway. Once they had a power surge, it was game over. Even if the rods weren’t misdesigned, there was no way to prevent a meltdown
Despite popular theory, the power surge came after the control rods entered. The AZ-5 button was in fact pushed twice. The test was completed and they decided to scram the reactor as it was due for maintenance anyhow. And both Akimov and Toptunov when interviewed in Moscow Hospital 6 claimed there was no argument and Dyatlov was in fact very calm that night.
@@andyroberts805 Not true. All the control room operators attested to the argument as depicted. Dyatlov was a prick and everybody knew it. He was a man on his own mission and it was his way or the highway. His hubris and determination to run the test out of stated parameters caused the accident.
@@andyroberts805made up fantasy nonsense...
It seems like Dyatlov was the one at fault. If there were safety restrictions in place, he had clearly ignored them.
I love this movie. I’ve gone looking for the book “Ablaze”but it seems to be out of print.
How can we blame Dyatlov? He was on the toilet.
NO, soviet union as a whole was at fault...what dont you understand? Dictatorships like soviet union were the problem
so bascially it was either a pressure build that would have done it if the water pumps stayed on or the lack of what is what im getting in this??
invisible burns, that that are worked by people of absolute power, that concern everyone in the world
So essentialy 1 man's arrogance is to blame for this entire incident? Thanks alot Dyatlov...
Its so horrible they really dont need the hype amd acting. As soon as that roof blows you know its releasing cesium amd iodine into the wind.. Nightmare
And one scientist watched from a bit away, there was a brilliant blue light shooting straight up, and it was visually "beautiful".
Strontium too
How do they operate 1 and 2 yet ?
1 and 2 (and 3 the last) are shut down, now
Who did the voiceover for this?
This was Chernobyl before Chernobyl
In the end, the Chernobyl tragedy is a prime example of what can happen in the hands and control (or lack thereof) as a result of human arrogance in terms of failure and technology and the very thought that any kind of technology can be totally flawless. It unavoidably leads to misjudgements and over- and underestimations and then a long chain of mistakes and miscalculations are very likely to take place. Probably then the most dangerous combination of paradigmes may be the one made of arrogance combined with denial of any possibility of failure. This for example results in denial in the form of the sort of cover ups og serious accidents within the Sovjet Union. Potentially leading to the loss of any chance of increasing the safely level in different technologies in general, though especially in terms of the nuclear industry. I guess that by default, one of the most dangerous paradigmes of the human race truly is the very idea of believing that technology itself can be totally flawless and is unable to fail. Simply because no human being is absolutely flawless. It has its roots in the very nature of existing as a human bring. In this way I guess one can argue that humans are their own worst enemy in terms if safety technology- wise. Another example of this disastrous way of thinking is the construction and use of Titanic. Both these major tragedies have very long lasting devastating consequences in each their own unique ways. I guess though that deep down of course the Chernobyl accident had by far the most far reaching destructive consequences because of the very nature of the accident. Arrogance in many ways is the most potentially dangerous character flaw human beings can possibly have when it comes to claiming to be absolutely flawless and unable to make mistakes. At a personal level but indeed also at the large scale of a whole society and the world as a whole.
That argument with Dyatlov never happened. That's the propaganda line from the Soviet government. Dyatlov wrote the guidelines for the test, which every other RBMK operations team refused to do. He defended the actions of the unit 4 operators until he died.
Riiiiiight ... it was recorded and attested to by all the other control room operators. it's available to read in the archives.
Dyatlov: "The commission is to blame for not providing the proper documentation"
Kinda like the documentation you were given stating the test should not be run below 700 MW that you ignored?
Gulag!👉
Man oh man....I don't know if fishing that close to this plant was/is a good idea??
Even if it don’t blow up lol, that’s the level of propaganda we can be exposed to, everything is safe as long as you hear it’s safe enough times.
I've caught many stripers in the warm waters outside the Milstone plant in New London Ct
Dyatlov did have big part to this. But i think most fault were Aleksandrov and Dollezhal. Aleksandrov did design RMBK reactor and NIKET director Dollezhal did know the faults and still did keep engineers in dark without information how to handle the reactor with its design "features" (faults).
The design flaw was not a problem.... It became a problem after they abandoned all safety rules.. They pulled way more control rods than allowed...
@DynamicSeq Control rods did have graphite tips, what was also one major thing. Because of the instability, an RBMK reactor that loses its coolant can under certain circumstances increase in reactivity and run progressively faster and hotter rather than shut itself down.
@DynamicSeq It was also crazy how many safety systems was possible to turn off or bypass.
@@DynamicSeqThe graphite tipped rods were definitely a design flaw.
I am not here to tell anyone how it happened, just asking questions...
I've heard that the engineers who designed the plant knew there was a possibility of melt down. They told Russia but they didn't do anything...either too costly to fix or they were out of time. It seemed like the blame went further up the chain to those who didn't know about nuclear power.
I majored in nursing, not nuclear power, so the research I've done is either over my head or the same thing. Or HBO's series.
fact is he powered down the reactor to low
I was there. I pushed the wrong button.....three times.
That's Communism for you folk's as the Kursk Incident also shows
Yeah it's funny how there were no arguments and the only time Dyatlov raised his voice was after the explosion. But there has to be a bad guy it can't be the state...
Also funny how raising the power quickly from 30 was accepted procedure by everyone there and not argued about
Public service announcement. Virtually everything you see in this well made but dated documentary is incorrect. Read book by Adam Higgingbotham "Midnight in Chernobyl" for the true story, what he got from interviewing real people who were there at the time. Most people that were in the control room are still alive today.
@45:20
He looked like Tom Cruise.
So the answer to would there be enough residue energy left to keep powering the station was no
In 1986 my daughter would have been three and I was twentyfour, it's horrifying that we don't have any say in what happens in our world, because it's our planet, yours and mine. And I know I didn't have a choice or condone such a fatal form of power on our world
Toptunov before he died continually claimed they did everything they were supposed to do his words never represented anything like is being represented in this portrayal.
So let’s trust the guy that ran away at 14 just because he is a nuclear engineer. I would never trust a run away. All that lets me know is that you’ve been undisciplined from the jump. Unless it’s for other reasons of course.
They guarantee the guys doing the test didn’t realize how much the Russian government cut quarters on the reactor so the information on the reactor probably wasn’t accurate enough and all the little things they did not do right building the reactor showed it’s ugly head that night💥
The nuclear plant had no emergency shut down "
It did. The issue was in the circumstances they made, the emergency shut down became a detonator.
Im sorry I couldn't withdraw he ticking clock in the background
A whole culture of denial, bullying, fear and passing the buck (in whatever order you like).
Dyatlov if accurate behavior was like a little Stalin no one one stood up to him with threats against their jobs
21:29 - 21:42 Can't explain jobs better then this
Run now😢
Russia never should have been allowed to develop a nuclear program.
I love watching this Movie. At least 400 times or more, and will watch it many times more, this film is way better than all the Films I have ever watched.
It’s a show.
@@JamesMaddux-w1cno it isn't a show... It's a documentary 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@@Eat-MyGoal Ya I know. Every once in a while UA-cam glitches and the comments are for the video you just watched but the video you are seeing is a new video. I was watching the a clip from the HBO show after this and the comments glitched back yo this.
This feels like it's been filmed 25 years ago because of low Pixels, low Graphics and low Camera Quality
No. No reenactments.
It was not an accident the order came from stalinist, 'soviet unioskaja'. They didn't like Gorbatshov. Some Asian people, originally from Checheny etc claims that they live there just as that. Lenin was from area which is nowadays Checheny.
World leaders need to somehow think about humanity before their own political and power cause. People need to not be afraid of questioning their bosses... regardless of the outcome. No job is worth the life of another
dyatlov: "i know everything because i'm higher ranked then you"...
nuclear power: "i'm going to BURN EVERYTHING..."
It's a nice dramatization, but that's all it is. No one but the people who were in that control room know what happened. The "official" reports and records were thoroughly sanitized by the KGB before being released. Even the Ukrainian government hasn't released much more about the accident. This is just another drama written by someone who WAS NOT involved in the incident, and probably never talked to any of the parties involved. After all, the majority of them are dead at this point.