What Gravel Is Too Big For 23mm Tyres?
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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I've been caught on gravel roads and trails a few times on my road bikes. Most of those times were back when I was running slick 23 mm Michelin Pro Race 3 tires on alloy rims. With some careful bike handling they got me to where I had to go with no problems. I run the best 25 mm tires, Continental Gran Prix 4 Season, on most of my road bikes now. They are awesome and handle every road condition (except snow and ice). I tried 28 mm tires on the two bikes that could accept them but switched back to 25 mm. The 25's are lighter, faster, and just made the bike feel better to me. All my bikes have rim brakes and alloy rims. I think the original sound would be fine for your video on riding in rain. It adds to the atmosphere. I enjoy your videos!
Excellent comment! Thank you so much! 🙂👍🏻
The 25s are more 'nimble'. I'm using 25c 4 Season front and 32c 4 Season rear. The challenge comes with what size spare to carry, so I've settled on 28c. I'm now waiting to see which tire needs replacing first, but being 4 Season, they're going into their third year of wear, and a lot of my treks are on gravel back-roads and crushed limestone trails.
Conti 4 Seasons aren't cheap, but you really get your money's worth...
We've come full circle with bike tires. My 1972 Peugot had 27" (630mm) x 1 1/8" (32mm) tires. That was standard in Mercx's era. In the 90s, I raced on 1.95" x 26" mountain bike tires. In the 2000s, I had a cyclocross bike with 28mm road tires in 'allroad' spec and 35mm knobbies for off-road. I rode 23mm tires on pavement for a long time and they were fine.
Now, new road bikes come with 28 to 35mm slicks and Gravel bikes run 38 to 50mm tires. Supposedly, it's faster, but it seems like old ideas are recycled to generate new sales. Keep riding your 23mm, rim brake, round tube bike, Reginald. It's awesome!
Thank you for the comment and historical information. I will! 😉👍🏻🙏🏻
Merckx, pros, and those racing would have been on clement tubulars. I don’t think merckx would have ridden 1 1/8 high pressures
The ride in the rain with original audio sounds pretty epic. I'd say it works out fine. Trying to imagine how that rain feels like. Kind of like a welcome warm shower I bet. I've biked through such rain and it felt quite nice.This video was well timed in my case I was just pondering what tyre size to use for a gravel bike build and the comments help as well, 28 mm seems like a good choice for gravel.
Bigger can be better, but it depends on what kind of gravel you plan to do. 🙂
Unfortunately most people say I should voice over, so I will see what I can do. 🤔
@@reginaldscot165 admitted I was using headphones so it's easy enough to hear. I use 23 mm tyres on my other bikes, 28 or 30 mm is about the max that would fit on the new bike build. I drive a bit of gravel on 23 mm but sometimes it's a bit awkward, especially when you loose traction.
Hey Reginald, I’ve always used 23mm Gatorkins reason being,two flats in eight years.
My cycling route consists of secondary country roads.
Can’t say I’ve had any problem with the choice of my tires.
Looking forward to your next video.
All the best!
Lovely! Thank you. 🙂🙏🏻
Horses for courses - I've done gravel on 25s, but the 38s are less stress inducing on loose sharp rocks. Bigger tyres do help you achieve 50km/h on the rough stuff, and that's fun.
Italians also drink cappuccinos and correttos you know ;)
They do, but only in the morning.
I've got the exact same tires, and they are awesome! I haven't done a lot of gravel riding just because the gravel roads are also steep as hell and I just don't really have to resort to it, but the little bit of gravel I did was absolutely no problem. I even rode over a completely overgrown riverside bank path, and the Litespeed with the contis ate it like a champ!
Regarding audio - I would LOVE a video on riding in the rain, since I do ride in the rain sometimes. I would listen even with the rough audio - but I would absolutely prefer a voice over. It's just not really clear at moments.
Love your videos Reg!
Thank you my friend! Great comment! ❤️🙏🏻🙂
13:24: "I had to go slowly of course because I´ve got no grip". No further comment necessary imo.
Yes, road tyres or “slicks” are not the best on loss surfaces. 😂👍🏻
Well, you could have done that ride on a single speed Dutch bike. If that's the only bike you have, then it's better than nothing. But the right tool for the job just makes it more enjoyable.
That’s very true! Some people think I’m saying they should put 23s on their gravel bikes? I’m not! I’m just saying if you find yourself on a light gravel road can you do it on 23s if that’s what you have? The answer is yes! 😁👍🏻
I use continental 22mm tubular on my racing wheels, they work well on bad pavement, absolutly not confortable but I enjoy when I can go fast on climbs, sprint well, I love the moment of gluing a tube. I dont recomend using 22-23 tubulars but for old school riders its still a thing.
Cool 👌🏻 😎
I will be riding in the german Westerwald region next week. Lots of heavy gravel but I did it before on my Conti 25mm tires. The great Gary Fisher once said "every bike is a gravel bike" so who am I to disagree? 😁
Did he? That’s a cool fact I didn’t know. Thanks! 🙂🙂
Fit the widest tyres that your frame allows, and run as low a pressure as possible. However, the narrower the tyre, the higher the PSI, as you'll just keep hitting the rim every time you hit anything rough/ rocky.
I ran some 28mm Vittoria Corsa the other day, and took a detour over some gravel/ canal towpaths.....they do handle it, but wider tyres with some knobs (GravelKing SK) are far better and you can ride over most stuff.
For gravel wider is definitely better, especially with some nobles. 🙂 But man are they slow on the road sections. 😂 As you can see from the video nothing got close to hitting my rim on 23s. The tyre doesn’t depress that far. If it had I would have had a pinch flat I would imagine. 🙂😉
I started running Continental Gran Prix 5000 because of your recommendation and I LOVE them. Best upgrade in years with TPU tubes in them. :)
Interesting you are running such thin tires 23mm... When I am on less smooth rural roads I prefer less tire pressure and might prefer a larger tire than the 25mm I'm running now. I was thinking 50mm would be nice but you are right you can totally go places that would surprise you if you are good at balancing on your bike.
Thank you! At 50mm I can take my road bike across Africa! 😅 I find 23mm on a titanium/steel bike is all need. If you can still ride on a 23mm at 30psi (not recommend) I don’t see the point in going bigger. I run my 23s at 94/96psi and I’m confident that I could drop them to 85PSI without suffering any major issues. 🙂
Hi Reg, the sound is not the best, but I can hear all you are saying. Not a patch on your normal audio though which is great quality. Your normal audio is 8 out of 10. This audio is nearer 3 out of 10, but intelligable.
Thank you, very helpful! 👍🏻🙂
Agree. I suggest a voice over for rain video. 🌧
Bigger tires have less rolling resistance on most roads, flat less, better grip, more comfortable. Don't really see the downside of running bigger tires.
IF… that were true then there would be little (but not no) downside. Personally I have no evidence they they flat less. That’s something I hear people say but I don’t know of any video anyone has done showing that? In my experience there is no difference. The speed thing? I’m also very sceptical of that. Because it goes against at least 3 laws of physics. Fatter is less aerodynamic, fatter is heavier, fatter has a bigger contact patch so more friction and thus more loss. 🤔 Better grip, maybe, that again is dependent on the tyre choice, they certainly contact more of the road, but I actually think at high speeds in the wet you are better off on a thin tyres. 🤔
Thanks for the comment! 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Testing has confirmed that rolling resistance is less, especially as surfaces get rougher. Aerodynamics benefit is significantly less at lower speeds, so unless you ride at 40kph+, the difference is negligible. You should really research this stuff instead of using anecdotal evidence.
I totally agree with you, Reginald. I spent good money on 28 mm Continental Gran Prix 4 Season tires after being conned into thinking they would be better (and faster) for road riding. I used them extensively on two of my best road bikes for about 6 months. The bikes felt a little sluggish and almost made me believe that I (I'm 63) was starting to slow down. I put 25 mm versions of the same tire on these bikes and they now feel livelier and average speeds went up on the same courses. I have never flatted on a 25 mm Continental Gran Prix 4 Season tire during the more than 15,000 km using them.
(Bigger tires have less rolling resistance on most roads) Even as I use larger ones, I seriously question all the claims for lower rolling resistance. Sorry, it just doesn't make sense without massive caveats. *It all depends on many other factors as well*. *Can they be?*. Absolutely. At all times? Absolutely not.
There's a limit to how much wider a tire offers advantages in *any* situation.
@@stephensaines7100 Yeah, sure there is a limit, but it certainly isn't at 23mm. Unless maybe your talking about a perfect flat track surface.
No one needs gravel bikes or even road with 32" wheels. In our next episode, Reg will take his 23" tires through city sewer grates. Just to show you how to crash. (Sorry Reg, this is ridiculous and looks about as fun with 90+ psi 23" tires as root canal.)
Ha ha! But was it entertaining? That’s all that matters. 😅
@@reginaldscot165 - Didn't think of it as entertainment but navigating on skates through treacherous areas with poisonous snakes, well, now I understand. I think.
Under biking is fun, but this was way under biking. hehe
Depends on the surface! I’ve ridden Conti 4000 22mm on metalled (gravel) in NZ but due to the camber I had to stay in the middle of the road. If I went to the side I slid into the gutter.
Impressive 🙂👍🏻
The last time I went on a gravel group ride, the group mates were more than extremely annoyed that I showed up on my usual rim brake road bike on a gravel tour. They were mainly concerned about the safety, and my puncture reinforced their prejudice that road bikes are unsafe for gravel. I was able to repair the puncture in under 10 min because I was not on tubeless. If I flatted on a dedicated gravel bike on tubeless, and had to deal with the mess, that would have taken much longer to repair. I explained this consequences, but they were still upset only because a road bike was involed in a incident. I wasn’t the only one on narrow tires. The majority of riders showed up on enduance, cross, or touring bikes with 28-33mm tires and I was the only one to get dismissive attention only for showing up on a dedicated racing bike. After the ride there were discussions not to take me again to a gravel tour if I show up on a road bike again.
I always prefer to be on a road bike because it outperforms gravel bikes on most of gravels I ride on. Gravel bikes are only better at light trails and loose rocks, but does everything else worse than road bikes.
I am considering to invest in Conti Gatorskin with sealant filled tubes, so that I’m nearly puctureproof. Although being immune to puncture wouldn’t change how people think of road bikes on gravel.
how would you folks react if you saw me or Reginald Scot showing up on a indestructible titanium road bike on a gravel group ride?
By mistake I turned up to a gravel ride on slick 35mm road tyres. (Normally I fit 37mm AT tyres.) but everything is fine. Most people who follow me have seen my take my steel road bike on gravel, 25mm slicks, as long as it’s not deep sand or mud it’s really not a problem. And yes, when the road is full of big rocks then a gravel bike has the advantage, but under most conditions the road bike is still faster. My dad used to Rally drive and most rally’s are on road with a few sections of gravel. That’s how most gravel rides end up. Unless you live in America in TN and you ride fire trails you are better off on a road bike. Modern road bikes are in my opinion closer to gravel bikes now anyway. Some “road bikes” 😅 can fit 40mm tyres and have disc brakes! Who in the right mind would then go and buy a dedicated gravel bike. 😆
I use 23 mm Continental Grand Prix tires on my road bike, and apart from a short unavoidable gravel section here and there, I try to stay on pavement 100% of the time. I think you need to go up to something like 28 mm to actually start enjoying gravel riding on a road/gravel bicycle, although it does depend on the rider.
Agreed 👍🏻 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Ditto...You can do it on 23s (I did for years) but once you've gone to a larger section, you wonder why you didn't years ago)
Man that looked torturous, I could feel the jarring through my computer monitor! It looks like you're having fun and that's the most important thing but personally I prefer fast and smooth over slow and bumpy. With the information and technology we have today there is zero practical reason for running such skinny tires at high pressures. 30mm tires @50-60psi are faster and smoother in nearly every circumstance.
Interesting you should say that, I find plenty of benefits to 23s on normal roads. I have a video coming on testing the rest of the fatter is better theory. 😊👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 The only benefits I find are a harsher ride and slower speeds 🙃
I know you hate the racer analogies but if 23mm tires were actually faster you can bet the farm that pros would be using them. Instead they race on 28's, minimum.
@@reginaldscot165 Interested to hear what those benefits are. I know you hate the pro racer analogies but if professional riders could go faster on skinny tires you can bet the farm they would use them. Instead they ride 28's or even 30mm.
@@doughorner5730 Not their choice! They must race with what their sponsors pay them to ride on.
The main reason wider tires are faster in real world situations is because they deflect and roll over protuberances on the surface you're riding on. That's b/c they run at lower pressure. Narrower tires which you run necessarily at higher pressures don't deflect as much and "bounce" more. In a perfect world with smooth surfaces everywhere narrower/higher pressure tires would win out.
Are they faster though? I’m about to do my own testing on that theory. 😊
@@reginaldscot165 Yes, yes, yes, generally faster, depending on the surface, the crappier the surface the more advantageous wider, supple sidewall tires are, -according to Jan Heine (Bicycle Quarterly) who has already done extensive testing on this very topic. Check him out 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 First think of each little bump on the road surface as a wall your tire is running into. A hard narrow tire bounces you over, so your body weight is deflected upwards and that is lost forward momentum. A softer tire deforms over those bumps saving you that loss. It's the same argument as supple rubber tires have over other hard rubber tires of the same width, only extended because you have wider tires with more air volume to absorb those hits.
Some of the other comments here are about their narrow tires feeling faster, and the theory there, which I'm sure you've heard, is that the vibrations they feel which are slowing them down give them the impression of speed the same way a rickety old clunker car is scary at a speed a smooth-running car will feel safe at.
I drink my coffee the same way! Black with one or two sugars.
I have also ridden many light offroad trails and gravel on my single speed steel frame road bike with 23c road tires. Does fine other than sand and mud. Sure bigger tires would grip better and ride smoother but not actually necessary for a little trail riding.
Agreed! 🙂
I rode several long sectors of strada bianche on 25mm power cup clinchers no punctures no issues in the dry
Impressive! 🙂👍🏻
I am thinking about going from 26x1.5 to 26x1.2 for touring/commuting.I am a bit concerned about how harsh that might be on a rigid fork steel bike
Should be fine on a steel fork. 🙂👍🏻
Listening intently I can hear your words. However, I think for your more casual listener and for archive sake I would say a voiceover would be great👍🏻
Good comment! Thanks! 👍🏻🙂
I like your message that you should ride what you like to ride, and not let conditions deter you from taking the bike you're on to the place you want to go just because it's not the ideal match.
I can concur that 25mm tires with a steel frame can be very comfortable on the road surfaces where I live. Bigger tires are more comfortable on rough surfaces, but don't feel as nimble to me.
You were intelligible in the rain.
Thank you! You seem to be 1 of the few people who actually got the message! 😂
I think other people didn’t watch to the end. 🤔
Thank you again and safe riding! ❤️
What tire pressure do you usually ride at? I would think that with a wider tire run at lower pressure you would get a little more bump absorption for more comfort. That is the only reason I would go with a wider tire.
On the road normally 96psi in the rear and 94psi in the front. 🙂
My first commuter about 5 years ago was a lent 1980s Peugeot Champion everything as it was toe path and unadopted roads perfectly fine. It's really funny how your mind shifts. I mean when we were kids, we only had one bike for everything.
That’s so true. 🙂
Actually,the only real coffee,is a Turkish coffee ☕😅
I ride my single speed/fixed gear frame(aluminium) everywhere! 25 and 28mm tires! I may switch to 30 or 32mm just to ride those nastier fire roads! I love the agility and simplicity of the single speed! Be it road version(my go to everyday bike),or my 29er! It can be done! If the frame is made good,the ride quality doesn't have to be jarring! Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😎
I've drank gallons of Turkish coffee, in Turkey. But there is only one way to obtain the widest range of flavour from coffee & that is by espresso.
@@Esse-vp1bc I only drink Croatian version of the Turkish coffee 😅
Ours is not that strong!
Greetings from Croatia 😎
That’s interesting! I didn’t know that. 😊👍🏻
Very nice bike, Reginald, About coffee and especially in winter black mixed with brandy we caal it i Spain ( The builder coffee) .oh , yeah, you get worm straight away,,,
In Italy you put a shot of Grappa (basically Italian grape vodka) in your coffee. It’s called “Caffè corretto” basically correct, because it corrects you! 😁
@@reginaldscot165 Nice!
28mm are a minimum now on UK roads imo
Probably true, but I find it’s interesting that the main reason for that is not the main reason GCN push them. For example you might need them for bad roads. But GCN started pushing them because they claim they are faster… and I don’t believe that’s true. 😉
All the best! 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 The whole GCN pushing larger widths is so tubeless/hookless can work properly. But I do believe larger tires with lower pressures is faster anyway
Yes, absolutely! It's rare to come across a UK road that is relatively smooth. Most are potholed, covered in gravel, and rough as anything.....And in winter, even worse.
well, what brings joy to a human is getting both variety and certainty in life. I guess its doable with 23mm, but i think its much comfier in low pressure 35mm tyres
I agree 😁👍🏻
Reginald, may I ask how you finish the tape on the top of your handlebars with no, or hidden, edging tape?
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Yes I have a video on this, 🙂 ua-cam.com/video/HyClhQGy1xE/v-deo.htmlsi=5LRn_eyQAOTKg4vf
maybe you don't have more ideas for your posts and that's why you ask such questions....23 is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever experienced even on asphalt/tarmac...I went through 23, 25, 28 and today I put on 32 continental...i swear :) ...23 on gravel is just a joke
sorry for my google translated English
Cool beans. 🙂👍🏻
Don’t worry I have too many video ideas. 😉
I would definitely not post a video with the original rainy audio, probably 90% of people will click away after listening to the first few seconds and it will tank your impressions for the next few videos. Audio quality trumps video quality and even content quality!
Thank you very helpful!
i am old school and run 23's, and the Conti 4 seasons is my preferred choice.
It’s a great tyre! 🙂
How is it that you ride with a saddle tilted forward? If my saddle is 1 mm off level, I get saddle sores and sore hands. Is this just a difference in physiology?
Well everyone is different, I actually ride with 2 degrees of tilt down. I have a semi aggressive position on the bike, so it works great for me. 🙂
You avoided demonstrating one of the best arguments against rim brakes... dip into one of those dirty puddles of water then hit the brakes. :) It's not that the braking performance would be terrible, but the grinding sound is horrible and to hear it with expensive carbon. yikes! hehe I hated it even with my aluminum rimmed mountain bikes with rim brakes back in the day. You can splash that junk up on to disc brakes also, and they'll make some noise, but it's on wear components at least.
By the way, I get cosmetic scratches on the sides of my carbon rims from gravel riding on questionable roads even with 40mm tires so expect that eventually.
Well the video title is about gravel, not mud. So that’s how I get around that. 😂 Also i would have probably got stuck in that mud. 🤣
I don’t recommend carbon rims for off road, I don’t understand why MTB people buy carbon wheels? But then again I don’t understand carbon bike frame for MTB. 😅
Riding on indian roads be like this sometimes. Smooth roads and then baam, cracked gravel paths 😂
I can imagine! 😅
Father Ted,,,,,, so good! 😂
The best! ❤️
I despise stones and sand,but dry dirt roads are much more comfy depending on soil type.
That’s true. 🙂👍🏻
I would ride my MTB with the 45mm wide tires pumped to 36 - 38 psi and front fork suspension over that - that set up it will eat gravel and any poor condition road up for breakfast, lunch and dinner. That set up also serves me on the harder trails where others have wide tires and dual suspension. Overall a much better ride on those sorts of roads then my steel Ritchie Road Logic running 28mm wide tires pumped to 75 psi could ever give me. For enjoyment factor I would not even consider the Logic on those sort of roads- let me at my MTB on 45's any day riding those sort of conditions. As for a good road, my steel stead - Merckx '91 Corsa Extra does the job and i'll see ya later on handicap ! As for the commentry over the rain, I am in favour of that, much better than a dry voice over.
Funny thing is on that road/gravel road I got 2nd 🥈 on STRAVA 😂 I was up against people on MTBs. I think the road bike was so much faster on the normal road on the was to the gravel that it made time on the other riders. I’m planning to go back with my gravel bike. 😁
23 mm too narrow. 96 PSI way too high.
Agreed! But it will still work if you have no other option. 🙂👍🏻
Depends on weight. I’m 200lbs and run 26mm tires and run 90psi. So 23mm at 96psi isn’t outrageous. Weight dependence.
what brand do you use for tpu tubes?
I have a video all about them! Ride now. 😊
The sound in the rain is good to share your pain😆
Ha ha no pain, it was lovely. 😂
Looks uncomfortable, sounds uncomfortable..it’s uncomfortable 33mm is sporty, 38mm fine for mixed terrains ..40mm exactly right for gravel only..but HEY you can ride also 19mm on your bike..just please keep the philosophy inside of your head and don’t claim it makes sense
What's interesting is that if you're doing proper gravel, you're better off using MTB tyres altogether. Have a look at Dylan Johnson's channel - he's racing at the top level in gravel and uses continental Race King 2.1" tyres because they have lower rolling resistance than any gravel tyre he's tried. The fact they're also significantly more comfortable so he's less fatigued after 200 miles on gravel, averaging 20 mph is the icing on the cake.
The philosophy is “if you are riding on road then road tyres are good, (especially if you ride titanium or steel bikes) and if you need to cross a short gravel road to get where you’re going it can be done.” I wasn’t suggesting that you should put 23mm tyres on your gravel bike! 😂
If you dare subject me to such audio quality, please do me the courtesy of adding subtitles as well.
👍🏻
Audio is good enough.
Noted. 🙂👍🏻
what is 23mm capable of...paris/roubaix for many years.
True.
I am a heavier than average cyclist so no way could I cope with 23mm tyres. The 25mm ones I use can't cope with potholes and pit the heck out of my cup and cone wheel bearings. At least the derailleur greenery wasn't a snake !
Ha ha yeah I am carful about snakes! 😂 So as you are heavier (90-100kg?) you must be riding on a steel or titanium frame with a higher weight limit right? 😉 I’m guessing you are on a carbon or aluminium bike and that’s where the majority of the problems are. Get a more compliant frame and you will notice a big difference. Unfortunately the heavier you are the more pressure you need to run in your tyres so a slightly fatter tyre probably wouldn’t have much effect. 🤔
@@reginaldscot165 I'm 100Kg on an Aluminium frame. Can't really fit much bigger tyres anyway as I have mudguards and the bike is a 2009 model. The wheel rims are only 13mm internal width so a 32mm tyre may in combination with lower pressure cause cornering instability. As a compromise I will probably end up getting a steel framed touring bike. I may switch to recumbents eventually so don't want to commit to a Titanium frame.
To much other noises, a voiceover might be better.
Thank you! 🙂
a bit off topic - If you compare the bicycle industry with the music industry (guitars) , consumers and professionals still desire technology of 1960s and 1980s even with three or four big companies with a large part of the market. Accoustic guitars (non electric) still the most popular.
That is interesting, but much is about quality and feel, if cyclists were like that everyone would be riding steel. 😂
Got a cheapo gravel from Decathlon, a triban, on 700x38....would literally glide over that gravel...barbers don't use a hammer for reason🤷♂️
That’s very true. But if you don’t have a gravel bike and you are out for a ride maybe you can take that short cut on the 23s 😉
"I don't drink soy lattes and like my coffee black" oh wow watch out for this nonconformist, it's just him and about a billion people in his demographic sharing these daring tastes. What a rebel!
Ha ha not where I live… 😅
ur crazy lol i tried it a few time on 28 lol its doable but NO fun
I have 1.95 like 50mm they just squeek in lol
Did you do it on a ti bike though? Because that makes a huge difference - from experience :P
Ha ha good comment 😁👍🏻
The sound in the rain was ok. Generally you do not appear to care for carbon, but you ride carbon wheels? Why do you prefer carbon over alloy? Your podcasts are informative and entertaining. Don't agree with all of your viewpoints but life would be boring if we all agreed on everything. I have a new carbon gravel bike, disc, sram force etc. Outstanding ride. I opted out of carbon wheels (hookless). I went with Boyd aluminum (old school clinchers) CCC wheels. Light weight and can handle tires from 30 to 50 mm. Hookless wheels appear to be limited in the range of tire sizes..
I could ask you the same question? 😉 I have a set of carbon rims for racing and road riding, the braking on this set is amazing, better than on my aluminium rims and amazing in the wet, like no issues at all! I was honestly shocked how good they are. They are light, cheap and very aero (I did my own testing.) So for me I can see the benefits in them. As for frames is always avoid carbon, simply because the ride is better on metals like steel and titanium and they are less likely to get damaged. 🙂❤️
@@reginaldscot165 Thank you for the input. I ride disc brakes so rim material is not a factor, at least I do not believe it is when it comes to braking. Carbon wheels appear to be almost all hookless nowadays. Tire size and pressure appear to be restricted. With my alloy I can run 50 on gravel and switch to 30 for the road. I have a CAAD 9 roadie. I also have a F2000 MTB. Both are aluminum and both were born in the USA. I also have a 12 year old carbon lefty. All are outstanding bikes. The rides do not appear to be harsh to me. Perhaps my weight of 200 lbs. alleviates the harshness. Anyway, I have had good luck with carbon. Your comments on titanium has raised my interest. I try to buy USA and there's a few titanium outfits here in the states.
I'd watch that rain video, the audio if fine.
It’s out! And I did a voice over. 🙂
I know you have family in Italy… this advice does not apply there because you will end up on ‘light gravel’ doing 30% downhill.
Sounds like fun! 😂
I thought this video was subtle comedy but then slowly realised you were being serious. The whole time banging on about how 23mm tyres are the dogs bollocks and Ti is making it so smooth while simultaneously bumbling slowly on a gravel road losing control constantly and having to highlight specific rocks that made up come unstuck. The very fact you keep banging on about having to check for "damage" to your bike underlines the point how 23mm's aren't the tool of choice for gravel riding - especially considering the super low tyre height has caused rocks to flick up and hit your carbon rims.
I'm all for underbiking etc. Just confounding at best to use it as an avenue to push your personal bike preferences as dogma when it's objectively the wrong tool the for the job.
Unsurprisingly it's always the retrogrouches waxing lyrical about anything new who happen to also be the most mediocre bike handlers.
After this comment (and the other one you already made on my waxing video) I have concluded you are possibly low IQ. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, it just means I probably won’t waste any more of my time talking to you. 🤷🏻♂️
Firstly, you are incapable of understanding the video. I didn’t say at any point that the bike or the 23mm tyres are the “tool of choice” and I did not advocate for the use of 23s as a preferred/dedicated gravel tyre. The video thumbnail and the video title clearly indicate that I am showing the limitations of and what is possible on a 23mm tyre. But you clearly don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand that.
At no point in the video did any rocks hit my carbon rims. I pulled over to check after the ride and you can see that they only came halfway up my tyres. You are seeing things that didn’t happen. You may have a mental condition that requires treatment. I’d recommend seeing a specialist. 👍🏻
As for my “bike handling” I can’t comment as I’m biased. But I will enjoy seeing your video of you riding on deep gravel and rocks on your 23mm tyres. Do let us know when you upload that video.
All the best and get well soon! 🙂
Voice over, definitely.
Thanks! 🙂
See, you have to slow down and wonder if you can get through it, my MTB on 45's just straight into it job done eat my mud splatter !
That’s true 🙂
with audio like that you just need to ADR because it is a pain to listen
Ha ha yeah.
you could ride a penny farthing on ngravekl if you really wanted to...doesnt mean you should.
its not about conforming, its about doing what works for you...but suggesting it should be the way we all ride is a joke,...time to unsubscribe i think...there is definitely a reason why your sub numbers are so very static
I think you didn’t fully listen to the intro. The truth is never popular. 😉 But thankfully the numbers are increasing daily. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 you seem to forget that you are not the be al and end all of bike knowledge. You just have an opinion. And opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one
Its fine for 1 ride suree
Sure. If needed it works.
Why the jab at vegans Reginald? You say you don't conform to them but they are among the biggest non-conformists out there.
It’s a joke! I’m quite a sarcastic fellow. 😉
Vegans were non-conformists 25 years ago - now they're the trend. Met many who perfectly personify that attention seeking mentality.
Doable but not fun for everyone😂
Fun, because silly, but not practical. 😁
You conform to " right brake lever, front brake, left brake lever, rear brake", which is just about the worse type of conformism...
I didn't realise that's a confirmation thing. I've always have the right lever set to rear brake......but is there a rule for that? (Genuine question)
Ha ha well I have a video all about why I do it this way. It’s not really conforming, especially when the majority of the world ride on the wrong side of the road! 😂
Right hand for front brake is not conformity, it's the best combination because it gives your dominant hand control over your dominant brake. People who drive on the wrong side of the road have other ideas but they're wrong.
@@drooghead You see? And that's not even funny.
@reginaldscot165 it actually makes a lot more sense to use right=rear when riding on the left, because the majority of your turn signals will be left and using the front brake with only one hand on the bars is a bad idea . I have watched your video on that subject. Enough said. Like I said , you are a conformist. I'm surprised you have moved on from groats and pieces of eight.