Thanks for making these informative kinds of videos. I love seeing other peoples setups when it comes to streaming video games, so having a similar style now that I'm interested in branching out to broadcasting and video production has been a great help in getting a grasp. Keep up the great work Doug!!
Perhaps, but each person building one certainly is going to have some unique needs which would make their builds different. For my own ATEM Mini build, for example, I'd have four SDI-to-HDMI converters so I don't actually have to use HDMI from the cameras, but others might be okay with HDMI.
Using a compressor in the audio chain is a very good idea. It does sound obvious when you stop a second and think about it. I will add this to my own little rig. Which one do you use?
Compressors are essential, especially for live streaming. The one I'm using is the Behringer MiniCom (COM800). But it hasn't been available for quite a while, and I haven't seen a suitable replacement, especially in that particular form factor. The next closest products I know of today would be the TC Electronic Finalizer series.
Hi Doug. Thanks for sharing. Could you perhaps explain your VLAN methodology? I get keeping audio, VOIP and general IP separate, but not sure why admin (I assume for the router?) would need it's own VLAN. In other videos you are using even more, which I found puzzling. Thanks!
The Admin VLAN (#1) is kept separate for a couple of reasons: (1) many devices only allow access to their configuration interface on VLAN 1, and (2) keeping the configuration VLAN separate from my main VLAN adds some security, as a casual user plugging into a regular LAN port (on a different VLAN) couldn't easily do an IP/port scan and find critical devices on my network. It also helps to prevent potential conflicts when plugging into networks with their own VLANs. Most ports on my switches don't pass VLAN 1 traffic at all. My Dante audio is separate from my main Private VLAN for a few reasons -- but the main one is that it allows me to plug into a venue's existing Dante network without sharing any of my private LAN traffic or having to reconfigure any other devices on the network to match a different IP subnet. I also have the Dante VLAN set at a much higher priority than the others, so audio traffic always takes precedence over everything else to help avoid dropouts or unnecessarily long latency. There are four "public" Internet VLANs for the different types of connections I have available -- Internet 1 for a hardwired connection at a venue, Internet 2 for WiFi at a venue (or hotspot), Internet 3 for my LTE router, and Internet 4 for any other connection. They're kept on separate VLANs so my main router can monitor each independently for connectivity (even if there are IP conflicts), and then switch to the highest priority connection that has a working connection. In terms of many of the rest, most are there just-in-case. Having an extra Private or Audio VLAN that is already configured but otherwise unoccupied might come in handy someday, and adding those extras doesn't interfere in any way with the VLANs that are actually being used. When parked between events, the trailer is able to connect to the office's main internet connection on the Internet 1 VLAN, but the router at the office is also able to use the trailer's LTE router on Internet 3 as its backup connection. So if my main Internet goes down (which it does, thank you very much, Comcast), the network switches over to the trailer's LTE connection automatically. I've also got entries in the routing tables of both routers to allow me to copy files between the home network and the trailer network at will, even though they're on separate VLANs and subnets.
What router are you using? i have a similar portable production box and have been sitting my router atop in the mean time, I've not had much luck finding a router with detachable antenna... Love your videos btw, quite an inspiration and great place to learn!
Great Video. We really appreciate your content. I see that your audio goes straight into the Atem's XLR inputs from an audio mixer board, do u get any audio synch issues by doing it this way? I read online number of people experiencing this.
How did you add power con to the power distro?i just found this unit on bh but there is no power Con. I love this idea? Can you let me know how you did this. Secondly is powering each unit on it’s own switchable power better? If something locks up and you need to reset the power on the individual switch or something? just wondering how this is beneficial
I purchased a panel-mount Powercon connector meant for Neutrik-D style panels, punched a hole, and wired it up, then added the corresponding Powercon connector to the power cable. The whole project took less than an hour. Being able to cycle the power on an individual component is nice. Occasionally -- and I mean very occasionally -- one component doesn't boot quite correctly and needs to be power cycled (most often the monitors). It also means I can leave the power turned off for items I don't need, like the network router. If I'm using this as an extension to my trailer, I don't want two devices serving IP addresses, so I leave the router turned off. And it's rare for me to use the wireless microphone receiver, so it rarely gets turned on.
Hey Doug, I have a question about Dante and BlackMagic gear. I feel like it's really obvious and I'm just missing something but does Dante recognise ATEM's as inputs if you plug the ATEM into the Audio's V-LAN? Obviously with audio going down the Fiber or SDI cable you need a way to be able to pull it out, and while Black Magic do a Mini converter (for SDI into Audio) I feel that it is an extra step in my planned system that others haven't had to take. Thanks for your time and all the awesome content you have created over the years!
The Blackmagic Design equipment doesn't support Dante on its own. If you're sending audio over SDI and need to get it into a Dante system, you'd need some audio de-embedders (like the SDI-to-Audio converters), then a Dante-connected audio input to plug them into. If you're going to use Dante, just go all-Dante and don't bother sending any audio over SDI. Not only do you end up with audio sync issues if you're splitting multiple sources over separate SDI channels, converting to analog then Dante on the receiving end costs you essentially the same or less as plugging it right into a Dante stage box at the source. And then you won't have to worry about sync or conversion issues, or having enough channels going into cameras. If you want to run over fiber, sending Dante over fiber is trivial, and pretty inexpensive. Media converters and SFPs are very affordable.
How would I need to order fiber to work with cameras? Like simplex,duplex and all that(it confuses me,like real bad) How would this need to be filled out so it works properly with the BMD Converters? gyazo.com/dbab13f3a27e43d4c72083ff603833bb
The POE Idea for the LTE Router ist as obvious as brilliant ... scratching my head why i never thought about this. i will order it asap ;-)
Thanks for making these informative kinds of videos. I love seeing other peoples setups when it comes to streaming video games, so having a similar style now that I'm interested in branching out to broadcasting and video production has been a great help in getting a grasp.
Keep up the great work Doug!!
Hello, Do you have an updated video of the Equipment Upgrades #1? Looking forward to that video. Thanks for all of your hard work!!
I haven't made any changes to my flypack since this video. At least not yet. Stay tuned.
Yes!
Very nice.
Can you do another flypack that could be based around the new BM ATEM Mini? It could be a theoretical pack since the Mini is not yet shipping.
Perhaps, but each person building one certainly is going to have some unique needs which would make their builds different. For my own ATEM Mini build, for example, I'd have four SDI-to-HDMI converters so I don't actually have to use HDMI from the cameras, but others might be okay with HDMI.
Using a compressor in the audio chain is a very good idea. It does sound obvious when you stop a second and think about it. I will add this to my own little rig. Which one do you use?
Compressors are essential, especially for live streaming. The one I'm using is the Behringer MiniCom (COM800). But it hasn't been available for quite a while, and I haven't seen a suitable replacement, especially in that particular form factor. The next closest products I know of today would be the TC Electronic Finalizer series.
I've heard good things about the FMR Really Nice Compressor. You can find it on Bhphoto for around $200
Hi Doug. Thanks for sharing. Could you perhaps explain your VLAN methodology? I get keeping audio, VOIP and general IP separate, but not sure why admin (I assume for the router?) would need it's own VLAN. In other videos you are using even more, which I found puzzling. Thanks!
The Admin VLAN (#1) is kept separate for a couple of reasons: (1) many devices only allow access to their configuration interface on VLAN 1, and (2) keeping the configuration VLAN separate from my main VLAN adds some security, as a casual user plugging into a regular LAN port (on a different VLAN) couldn't easily do an IP/port scan and find critical devices on my network.
It also helps to prevent potential conflicts when plugging into networks with their own VLANs. Most ports on my switches don't pass VLAN 1 traffic at all.
My Dante audio is separate from my main Private VLAN for a few reasons -- but the main one is that it allows me to plug into a venue's existing Dante network without sharing any of my private LAN traffic or having to reconfigure any other devices on the network to match a different IP subnet. I also have the Dante VLAN set at a much higher priority than the others, so audio traffic always takes precedence over everything else to help avoid dropouts or unnecessarily long latency.
There are four "public" Internet VLANs for the different types of connections I have available -- Internet 1 for a hardwired connection at a venue, Internet 2 for WiFi at a venue (or hotspot), Internet 3 for my LTE router, and Internet 4 for any other connection. They're kept on separate VLANs so my main router can monitor each independently for connectivity (even if there are IP conflicts), and then switch to the highest priority connection that has a working connection.
In terms of many of the rest, most are there just-in-case. Having an extra Private or Audio VLAN that is already configured but otherwise unoccupied might come in handy someday, and adding those extras doesn't interfere in any way with the VLANs that are actually being used.
When parked between events, the trailer is able to connect to the office's main internet connection on the Internet 1 VLAN, but the router at the office is also able to use the trailer's LTE router on Internet 3 as its backup connection. So if my main Internet goes down (which it does, thank you very much, Comcast), the network switches over to the trailer's LTE connection automatically. I've also got entries in the routing tables of both routers to allow me to copy files between the home network and the trailer network at will, even though they're on separate VLANs and subnets.
What router are you using? i have a similar portable production box and have been sitting my router atop in the mean time, I've not had much luck finding a router with detachable antenna...
Love your videos btw, quite an inspiration and great place to learn!
It's an Asus RT-N12 ( amzn.to/30YEMGJ ). It isn't a spectacular router, but it works.
@@djp_video Thanks so much!
What type of Ethernet cables are those blue ones?
I believe those are from Monoprice.
Doug Johnson Productions cat6?
Usually, though I can't say for sure about those cables specifically off the top of my head.
Great Video. We really appreciate your content. I see that your audio goes straight into the Atem's XLR inputs from an audio mixer board, do u get any audio synch issues by doing it this way? I read online number of people experiencing this.
That depends on the cameras being used, and how much delay they introduce before the video output. The cameras I typically use have
How did you add power con to the power distro?i just found this unit on bh but there is no power Con. I love this idea? Can you let me know how you did this. Secondly is powering each unit on it’s own switchable power better? If something locks up and you need to reset the power on the individual switch or something? just wondering how this is beneficial
I purchased a panel-mount Powercon connector meant for Neutrik-D style panels, punched a hole, and wired it up, then added the corresponding Powercon connector to the power cable. The whole project took less than an hour.
Being able to cycle the power on an individual component is nice. Occasionally -- and I mean very occasionally -- one component doesn't boot quite correctly and needs to be power cycled (most often the monitors). It also means I can leave the power turned off for items I don't need, like the network router. If I'm using this as an extension to my trailer, I don't want two devices serving IP addresses, so I leave the router turned off. And it's rare for me to use the wireless microphone receiver, so it rarely gets turned on.
Hey Doug, I have a question about Dante and BlackMagic gear. I feel like it's really obvious and I'm just missing something but does Dante recognise ATEM's as inputs if you plug the ATEM into the Audio's V-LAN? Obviously with audio going down the Fiber or SDI cable you need a way to be able to pull it out, and while Black Magic do a Mini converter (for SDI into Audio) I feel that it is an extra step in my planned system that others haven't had to take.
Thanks for your time and all the awesome content you have created over the years!
The Blackmagic Design equipment doesn't support Dante on its own. If you're sending audio over SDI and need to get it into a Dante system, you'd need some audio de-embedders (like the SDI-to-Audio converters), then a Dante-connected audio input to plug them into.
If you're going to use Dante, just go all-Dante and don't bother sending any audio over SDI. Not only do you end up with audio sync issues if you're splitting multiple sources over separate SDI channels, converting to analog then Dante on the receiving end costs you essentially the same or less as plugging it right into a Dante stage box at the source. And then you won't have to worry about sync or conversion issues, or having enough channels going into cameras.
If you want to run over fiber, sending Dante over fiber is trivial, and pretty inexpensive. Media converters and SFPs are very affordable.
is that a AKG C555L headset microphone?
It is. Good eye.
Los subtítulos al español. Gracias y bendiciones
Nice
You may get more traction with this video if your thumbnail was the front of the equipment rack.
How would I need to order fiber to work with cameras? Like simplex,duplex and all that(it confuses me,like real bad)
How would this need to be filled out so it works properly with the BMD Converters?
gyazo.com/dbab13f3a27e43d4c72083ff603833bb
You're looking for duplex Single Mode (OS2) fiber, with LC/UPC connectors. Look for blue connectors on the ends.
@@djp_video Ok! Thank you!!