Comparing Josh Middleton Tonality to the real tube amps
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Do the amps in Josh Middleton Tonality come close the real amps? Can you even compare them? Let's give it a try.
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NTRO: 00:00
Session Overview: 01:15
REAL 5150 VS PLUGIN: 02:01
DIALING 5150: 02:59
BLOW AWAY: 05:44
BACK AND FORTH AGAIN 5150: 06:01
TOP END ON REAL AMP: 06:37
CHORD LOOP: 07:21
PLUGIN VS AMP IN THE MIX: 08:48
AMP VS PLUGIN IN THE MIX (ADDED...: 11:09
PEAVEY XXX: 13:01
PEAVEY XXX VS PLUGIN: 13:52
PALM MUTES SOUNDING BETTER...: 15:05
BOTTOM KNOB ON XXX REACTS DI...: 17:01
XXX VS AMP IN THE MIX: 18:10
MESA DUAL REC: 19:49
MESA VS PLUGIN: 21:03
DIALING PLUGIN TO MATCH MESA: 23:23
DIALING THE AMP: 25:18
MESA VS PLUGIN IN THE MIX: 26:59
MESA VS PLUGIN REDIALED A BIT: 28:08
MESA VS PLUGIN SOLO: 28:31
MESA VS PLUGIN WITH ALL AT 12: 28:31
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if you made a preset for it would you share it
That's SCARY close
Lets not forget the load box also effects the tone of the amp. I'd say more so than amp/tube variance.
Bingo…nailed it
100% correct!
Mendel I must say this is my favorite channel man. Your content is always incredible and inspiring! It’s obvious that you put a lot of time and effort in to your work. I watch and listen in my studio and it blows me away how talented you are as a musician/mixer/MIDI programmer and songwriter you’re productions really stand out from all the rest in my opinion. Thank you for this channel and all your hard work, believe me it does not go unnoticed.
Thank you so much for the kind words, truly heart warming to read 🔥
The XXX is my favorite amp I have owned. The Crunch channel is WAY better for metal rhythm tone than the Ultra Channel with an OD in front. Definitely an amp I wish I had never gotten rid of.
But it sound Muddy to me
Love this plug especially the IRs. I also love neural gojira nolly and fortin cali.
Thanks for this awesome comparison ❤
Comparison I’ve been waiting for🔥
I find the plugins always have this thing in the high frequencies, with all developers. Brighter than real amps or more linear. in the freq response...
I love this plugin. I prefer other IRs, but when I just want to quickly hop in my DAW and jam some modern metal riffs, I run the direct amp signal from the Josh Middleton Tonality into some custom IRs, and, IMO, it nails exactly what I want out of a boosted 5150 tone. It also sounds really good for liquid leads even without a boost.
In the comparison here, I actually prefer the plugin. It's closer to a polished usable tone in the mix right away. The 5150 would need more highs and some sculpting, but, really, the minor differences you hear here could easily be compensated for by just using different IRs and EQ settings to get either the amp or plugin more in line with personal tastes.
I bought this plug-in the day it released. I’m a fan of Josh and knew the plug-in was going to be amazing. In a mix you can’t tell the difference between this plug-in or a real amp. It’s so good. Also the Mike Stringer plug-in by Mixwave.
When i was younger, i used to dream of saving enough money to buy these amps. Now i can get a plugin that sounds extremely close without having to pay so much money. Of course if i had a lot of money i would still get the real amp.
Hey Mendel, nice video ! I'm curious, It would be interesting to EQ match the Amp on the VST to see directly the difference between the 2 !
Triple XXX is tricky because has active eq, so small adjustments have a huuge impact on the sound. I sold mine days ago, prefer KT77/EL34s over 6L6s on that amp, but I love my 6505 and 6505+ the most.
STL does sales all the time, I got the Josh Middelton plugin for $60 USD. Totally worth it.
Same which is funny because the inferior versions in amp hub will cost away more to own😂
can you show us the full mix? i love the tone
Realy cool video
is the riff at 6:50 from a song of yours? Sucker for black metal/blackened style riffs like that. Good shit
Did you disable the EQ under the FX tab in the plugin? Of course, you did... Dig your sound!!!
Yes I did ❤️
Man i tried this when was released, easily one of the best...
Someone just suggested on one of your videos the Revalver suit and in there is some Eq tone matching that would be the perfect comparison i know you had the ears of beethoven but that would be the best comparison on a Eq
For my Neural DSP!!!
you could match exactly your real amps using Match eq, you can apply this using fab filter pro Q or any plugin capable of
You could check the differenece with an eq matching vst right? also, wie geeft er 2000 piek uit aan een 5150 :'(
In before someone says "Amp1 is modeled after a modded 5150". Seems like there is some feedback change in the power section to my ear.
Were you running both amps through the same IRs?
Wanneer ga je de studio tour uploaden?
Editing is bijna afgerond
Hey Mendel, what tubes are in your block letter?
6L6 from the top of my head, Tube Amp Doctor.
lol , j'y crois pas! tu as le XXX! On en parle pas beaucoup voir pas de tout et pourtant . . ♥
The real thing just sounds so good..
Extremely close. Listening to it while doing other things the main thing was that the Tonality was often brighter which could be a good thing. Focusing I can hear the difference but I think the software is WELL worth it.
5:55 great that a channel recommends the cheaper option.
the real one sounds like the real one lol, the low end on the plugins sounds like off phase, high end is harsh. the real thing just sounds asmr like
What’s IRs do you use in 5150?
www.drumsandtones.com/product/the-queensroad-ir-pack/
Thank you!
better the load box the better digital is matching....
Josh's mesa is the multiwatt
One has to wonder how their Meridian 65 amp holds up against both. I'd have to guess The Middleton 6505 and Meridian 65 probably sound identical 🤔
They do not, because Josh Middletons is slightly modded. That said, the Meridian 65 sounds awesome, I like it more than the Meridian 65 Plus which has been recently introduced. I once on my channel made a comparison between a resonance modded Bugera 6262, which seems to have a bit more gain on tap than the regular 5150 MKII, and compared it to the Meridian 65, they sounded REALLY close. In a mix I could not tell the difference.
Amp is Amp bro! Plugin can never replace the taste of the original amp! 😅
Yes Josh's XxX has 6L6's
It feels like if you add the name of a famous guitarist to any plugin, then everyone will start talking about what sounds like a real amplifier. I can clearly hear the difference. This plugin sounds cheap. I'm not one of those who hates digital plugins. There are Helix, ToneX, Neural DSP that sound so that you really can't tell the difference from the real ones in the mix. This plugin is just a hyped buzzer.
Yeah, definitely wrong. This plugin nails the 5150 tone better than any other on the market. Better than the Neural DSP 5150 emulations, which are already pretty good.
5150 in this is better than any NeuralDSP 5150 that I’ve used
Talkin' about the Recto, I'm pretty sure has a Multiwatt, I owned a 2000 Dual, a 2003 Triple and a 2019 Multiwatt and the 2000 and the Multiwatt were the best sounding Rectos I've ever tried. The Multiwatt has more mids, it's tighter and less boomy compared to the old 3 channel Rectifiers from 2001 until 2009.