Everything in Finland after last war has been designed with war in mind. Large roads don't go horisontally and all of them go through solid rock which are ready to be blown shut quickly. Electricity infrastructure is prepared for war. Water supply is prepared. We have natural forests and swamps between Russia and Finland because it gives a natural protective wall. Army is always ready. Any company that has anything to do with infrastructure, has to have plans in case of war. We haven't been asleep with Russia.
I find it bit odd that whenever finnish 20th century wars are being brought up, lots of people remembers the swedish volunteers, but rarely anyone talks about the estonian volunteers, Soomepoisid, who returned back to soviet-occupied Estonia after the wars, and waged their own war against the soviet occupiers for years to come.
@@VonArmagedda but if needed i know finland will help also.. now thou i cant im too sick but willtry to help if needed... 2x cancer so cant work etc so im leech but can try to fight if needed =)
About the navy: the US needs a blue water navy and force projection capability across the world. Finland only wants to operate in the shallow waters of the Baltic Sea, dotted by thousands of islands. The Pohjanmaa class is officially a corvette, but if you look at the displacement it would be in the frigate range.
After Russia went in to Ukraine a swedish reporter feeling the fear of Russia expanding to the West asked a ex minister of Finland how the Finns were feeling about the sudden Russian threath . The ex minister answered - In Sweden you are worried and scared about Russia . In Finland it is Tuesday .
Difference is that Sweden has been neutral for 200 years and most of them don't even know what war is like anymore. That's why they have been doing "scare talk" in swedish media because they need to wake everyone up from hibernation. In Finland that is not needed because we are fully aware that some day Russia might come over border with bad intentions.
Fint sagt! Men ett tack borde även gå åt Sveriges håll för att ha stått vid vår sida då stödet behövdes som mest. Hoppas Sverige kommer så snabbt som möjligt in i Nato och vi kan samarbeta i sammanhållning, kanske t.o.m. mer än vi gjort förr. 🤝
@@mrbrand4720 Nå det gör väl inte så mycket, men ifall du vill går det ju alltid att lära sig vid ett senare tillfälle :) Jag har själv rötterna från Sverige och Tyskland (detta går alltså tillbaka 300 år), så är en del av finlandssvenskarna i Finland (ättlingar till de svenskar som blev här efter finska kriget). Alla finlandssvenskar i Finland kan ju så klart svenska, men mångas finska är inte heller på så hög nivå som man kunde anta.
The territory near the border is full of lakes, which makes for easy to defend choke-points. All of the bridges are required to be easily collapsible. The few freeways that go from east to west also have points with collapsible rock-faces on one or both sides. The Freeways also have points that can be converted to de-centralized air-strips
Finnish terrain is such that vehicles must use roads and on average there are 2.3 perfect ambush places per meter. Ukrainian army has done well consider they don't have so perfectly defensible landscape.
Very interesting video. Doesn't Helsinki have that huge underground shelter that's more like a city? On a less serious note, Finland is home to the best band in the world, Nightwish!
We have multiple bunkers/shelters all around the nation but surely also in Helsinki and other big cities to cover recidents if needed. And love Nightwish too ;.)
I am finnish and my friend is going to fight for ukraine next week. Many finns have been fighting in ukraine because it is almost same as if rusdia attacks finland.
That toilet paper reserve came handy when the pandemic started. People went a bit mad about hoarding supplies and in first couple of weeks the stores had some deficiencies on toilet paper, dry food, and meat. That was mostly because of all the news about shortages all over the world. It didn't take long for people to realise that there was no real shortage on any of the above and things turned to normal again.
In the army for some reason the enemy was always approaching from the East 😂, all the shooting ranges , scouting etc. Was always done in a way that the enemy was approaching from the east 😂. I was trained as a military police during my time in the army.
Finn here. I think we joined Nato to deter any possible attack. Yes, getting the help if we are attacked is important, but I think most of us want to avoid any fighting all together. And being a part of Nato does that. The time after the WW2 was hard. Finland, same as most of the Europe, was in ruins. We had to build our country again and pay massive war reparations to USSR. And we couldn't partisipate on the Marshall Plan, because we had to be mindfull about our relationship with USSR. But we stayed independent and we were on the west side of the Iron Curtain. We had hope and we had a a chance. I think USSR didn't want to fight us because it would have been a endless guerrilla war, with very little payment.
When its about war or ice hockey, we take it pretty serious. Political toughts and ideologys just dissappear. "against the mutual enemy we stand as one" in ice hockey its our western neighbour and in war its the eastern one.
The era of Finlandization is rather nuanced. Pretty much after the war, USSR forced Finland to sign the agreement of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance (Ystävyys-, yhteistyö- ja avunantosopimus in finnish), which dictated that Finland cannot allow other powers to use her territory to invade USSR territory. Reason is simple, Finland allowed Nazi Germany to use Finnish territory to invade USSR in 1941. Also Finland was forced to pay war preparations to USSR, almost 300 million U.S dollars, which Finland paid, the last payment was paid in 1952. But the actual finlandization started in 1958, caused by the event known as night frost crisis (yöpakkaset), the relationship between Finland and the USSR soured after the 1958 Finlands parliamentary elections, when the left wing Finnish People's Democratic League got the majority, but they were left outside the cabinet of ministers, which angered the USSR as the FPDL was pro-USSR, and Fagerholms SDP (Socialist Democratic Party) wasn't in USSRs favor. USSR pulled out their ambassador and send a note that they won't accept Fagerholms cabinet. For this reason minister of foreign affairs, Johannes Virolainen resigned, and Fagerholm announced the resignation of his cabinet. Throughout the 60's, USSR more or less controlled Finlands foreign politics, so much so that the CIA saw Finland as USSRs puppet state, and not neutral at all (Though CIA never liked Finlands neutrality policy) Things calmed down in the 70's, and in the 80's as Gorbatsov became the Soviet premier, Finlandization kinda ended, but it's remains was still to be seen because of Finlands own internal censorship towards anything which could be seen as harmful to Finno-Soviet relations. And the whole reason why all this happened, was the constant threat of Soviet invasion.
Finland and Estonia are the last surviving independent ugric thribes. Yes there are some ugric cultures in Latvia, Sweden, Norway and lot of them in Russia, But Estonia and Finland has independece and neather one of them is planing to be the last one! Will to stay indepentednt is strong And that makes a better soldier.
Technically they are the last independent Fennic tribes of the Fenno-Ugrics. Ugrics are a different subgroup: (From Wikipedia) The name Ugric is derived from Ugrians, an archaic exonym for the Magyars (Hungarians) and Yugra, a region in northern Russia. Ugric includes three subgroups: Hungarian, Khanty, and Mansi.
Well...living in a shooting distance from Helsinki/Vantaa airport and that being my husbands wartime base has somewhat made me nervous and the NATO thing is a must right now.
Many Finns also didn't want to join NATO because of the US and its infamous wars around the globe. But even so, after Ukraine, it was clear Finns needed to choose a side - and they chose the west.
A corvette is the smallest class of warship above a gunboat. The Finnish coast is shallow waters and copious small islands, a modern destroyer would have far too deep draft to go everywhere. A corvette can have advanced weapon systems and hide among islands, and it can be very very fast with extreme acceleration.
After the WW2 and during the Cold War Finland was the country between the East and the West and had a significant role as a peace keeping nation politically and otherwise: "How did Finland deal with the Soviet Union after the World War?", "1952 HELSINKI OLYMPIC GAMES: Opening ceremony (1952)", "YKSK - Yhdistyneiden Kansakuntien Suomen Komppania 1956-1957 | Finnish UN Company 1956-1957", "Kekkonens Nightmare", "Why did Finland have Soviet MiG-21s?" and "PASI - rauhanturvaamisen työjuhta". Fighter jets are good indication of the country's geopolitical stand and position. Here's Finnish Air Force in the 80s and the arrival of the first Hornets in 1995: "Arkistojen kätköistä - From the archives: Ilmavoimat 1980-luvulla - Finnish Air Force 1980´s" and "Ensimmäiset F/A-18 Hornetit saapuvat Suomeen, Pirkkalaan 7.11.1995".
We say the same in Sweden, the threat is always in the east. That's why we have the Karl XII statue pointing to the east! And we dont mean Finland, but Russia :)
6:40 there was a very nice 8-part document series, "Cold War's Finland" (Kylmän Sodan Suomi) made by the local TV station just a couple years ago. I'm not sure if it's translated to English, but it is available online for free. English subs should be fairly easy to provide if needed. Also, I must say that the way the Warographics' narrator constantly speaks of "HELSINKI's defense" strikes me just funny. Most of the Finns couldn't give rat's ass about Helsinki.
950,000 trained reservists, 1700 artillery pieces and 1343km of border with Russia Finlands also an excelent launching ground for a possible invasion of St.Petersburg Finland has extremely well bunkered infrastructure and is heavily forested area which is easy to defend! Perfect addition for a defense alliance
If you want to know a bit more about post war Finland, then this video was ok and fairly simple about it: ua-cam.com/video/cVAR60UocdQ/v-deo.html A lot of nyances of Finlandization is missing from it, but I don't think there is better videos made about it in english than in finnish. A finnish author called Jari Tervo made a long series about finlandization for YLE. Anyone interested in me haxing it to eng subtitles? And howdy from Finland! 🤠
Early 90' we had "lama"(depression) and the closing of bases was because of the problems of the old buildings and todays standards(like we are living to sterile today so when boys not used to the cousy old buildings and the extra stuff growing in em they got sick).
Best way to think what was going on through finlandization was that there was a swinging sword above your head. At times you needed to halt your progress to appease the sword and once the winds from the west or east started to move the sword, than you would find few opportunities to do some subtle movement for todays future.... Thank God those times are over.
US Navy has the LCS's, which are comparable to corvettes. Corvette is ment for littoral waters. Though like other have said, the Pohjanmaa-class will be a corvette in name only.
Zelensky visited Finland last week, to meet with the leaders of the 4 Nordic countries who are the 3rd largest suppliers of weaponry to Ukraine. The Nordic countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland) have a larger economy and GDP than Russia according to the World Bank, and because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, have agreed to establish a unified air defence, which will include 139 brand new F-35 stealth fighter jets, 131 partly brand new Jas-39 Gripen fighter jets, 88 F-16 and F-18 Hornet fighter jets (not counting 55 trainer jets of the mentioned variants). The Nordic countries are now also greatly pushing for the donation of fighter jets in a coalition with other European countries. By joining NATO, Finland are also adding an active army personnel of 280,000 (ready for war) and a further 900,000 reserve personnel already specifically trained to face the Russians if needed. So actually the largest army in Western Europe, and while Russia is pulling old T-55 tanks out of retirement with Putin also promising to modernize over 1,600 tanks over the next 3 years, Swedish manufacturer Saab expects to generate 400,000 units of Carl Gustaf, AT4, NLAW anti-tank weapons and ammo a year, or 1.2 million units over the next 3 years. Government support to Ukraine: Military aid, € billion, Commitments Jan. 24, 2022 to Feb. 24, 2023. top-10 1. United States €43.2bn 2. United Kingdom €6.6bn 3. Nordic Countries €4.0bn 4. European Union (EU) €3.6bn -. Germany €3.6bn 6. Poland €2.4bn -. The Netherlands €2.4bn 8. Canada €1.4bn 9. Baltic Countries €1.1bn 10. Italy €0.7bn --. France €0.7bn The secretary general of NATO is Norwegian, and Norway recently made a commitment, signing a deal that will provide Ukraine with $7.5 billion worth of weaponry and support over the next 5 years, just as Denmark revealed last week, that they are sending a special spring offensive support package worth $250 million to Ukraine. (so non of that is in the stats from late February above) The package consists of, among other things, financial contributions for more air defence systems in cooperation with other NATO partners, armored anti-mine vehicles, M/97 man-portable mine-clearing line charges (designed to create a 25m path in a minefield by using a special charge, which is propelled over the area by a small rocket) and special vehicles designed to salvage tanks and break through tank obstacles, Pontoon bridges, ammunition, night vision equipment, mortar rounds, fuel, first aid equipment and field rations are included in the package. “We know the Russians have dug in across occupied areas in Ukraine via trenches, minefields and other obstacles in a bid to halt a Ukrainian offensive. The material in the donor package is important to pave the way for Ukrainian tanks and the armored infantry on the frontline. Moreover, we are strengthening efforts to maintain key capacities.” Defence minister Troels Lund Poulsen said.
And US has already done that after Finland joined NATO. And of course Finnish air force does that all the time, it's not uncommon to see Finnish hornets flying across the sky.
During the past five years Russian oligarchs have bought land near locations that are strategically important and they have built structures there that can be used for military purposes like helicopter landing pads, warehouses, huge decks and large cabins. There are over hundred of these bases across the country. Putin is waging an imperial war in Ukraine and if he succeeds it is likely that he will attack other countries that once were part of the Russian Empire or Soviet Union. Our grandparents fought the Red Army in the Second World War and then they built a decent democratic country. Their bravery, determination and hard work would inspire most citizens to fiercely defend this country.
The Baltic sea is very shallow so not a great place for large ships or aircraft carriers or what not. I think the US army operates more on open/deep waters so it doesn’t really have the need for corvettes?
Just watched your coronation video you missed the best bit the procession back to Buckingham Palace in the gold state coach with 4000 military marching bands and more
Not joining NATO was also a way to tell Russia that we see no need to gang up against you because you arent doing anything more wrong than USA. Like USA aint an angel neither is Russia, both in a bit different ways but the war against Ukraine changed the balance so much that taking a side was the only right thing to do. Back in the 90's when we talked about it most that I spoke with didn't want to get mixed up with the messes of USA and NATO was starting to look like an ancient ww2 thing(thats probably why we ended up just taking the partneship for peace). We were starting to build relations with Russia again and people even dared to go there working(like it was still a shady place to go). It was a time of hope that finally we get peace and joining something that speaks against peace . Then came Putin and even the Russians I worked with were unsure first but later it changed to "this is not a good thing"(Never asked why or what but it was after an election with Putin continuing his time on the throne).
Before the war in Ukraine we had relatively good relations with Russia. Business and so on was vast. So no reason to join NATO, we mainly have the mindset of wanting to be left alone. The doubt towards Russia was always there and i doubt it will never heal fully. Hence the vast preparedness in the case of an attack. NATO is just a (big) added bonus of safety factors. Prepping aspect is also visible in the video of Finland's bunkers-video, maybe react to that too: ua-cam.com/video/922Db-kztC0/v-deo.html
Somehow every video fails to acknowledge that Finnish men don't actually HAVE to serve in the military, they can opt for the civilian service instead. Also Finland doesn't have additional 900k reservists on top of the 280k. 900k is the total number including the wartime strength of 280k.
As one could expect, the years immediately after the war were harsh with Finland having to pay war repairs and roll over when Moscow told them to. However, it continued for decades, and the crescendo was somewhere in the late 60s and early 70s when the baby boomer generation came old enough to be politically active, and there was an active process of naming and shaming all individuals who were found to be anti-Soviet, very much akin to the cancel culture of today. The 1980's was much more relaxed and was a period of remarkable economic growth, westernization and the culmination of the Nordic welfare model. Unemployment was very low, salaries were very good and most people were living the dream in that period. That all ended in the early 1990s depression, which was partially caused by the collapse of the Soviet Union and the resulting drop in export income.
Finns will bring a very strong army with perhaps the strongest artillery in Western Europe. Also the defence is used to operate in harsh cold conditions and they have a pride of their nation, which helped through their three wars during WWII. (Two wars against USSR and the third against their former allied Germany) The Air Force has grown in size and with their 60 or so Hornets are not a push over to any offender of the air space. It will be interesting to see how the new corvettes will fit in, at least they will be more capable and well armed than the three mine layers and four older fast attack By the way those Horets are to be replaced by 65 F35 A.s ina couple of years. On the down side is the long border and eing close to the main naval dock yard of S:t Oetersburg and Murmansk is not far away from the Finnish border in north. Add to it the naval base of Russia at Kaliningrad. Finland is able to muster some 925 000 troops including the active, conscripts and the reserves. which is no bad considering the population of 5.5 nillion citizens. In peace time, NATO will get a closer look on what Russian Navy is doing and also what is happening in the peninsula of Kola and once Sweden is a member almost the entire Baltic Sea will be in Nato control. . The problem is that the Northern Nordic countries is sparsly populated, this means that the road network and railway lines are a few. The northern most ports are having problems with the ice, which means that supplies will take time to get in to the site, though things will be slightly easier if Sweden joins in as These shipments can use the ice free port of Narvik in
Aa a us finn, I fully support and understand my finn brothers, my great grandfathers land was lost in karelia, what must be done must be done, thier is no question, the boxes have been checked, sisu
Some key mistakes in the video are 1 yes Finland became a part of russia in 1809 but it had been a part if sweden for 600 years. It didnt get colonised by russia it was already colonised by sweden. And 2 Russia did try to russify finland twice. 1st was before the russo japanese war . They had to stop the russification as the finns were revolting and there were revolts all acrross russia. The second russification was before ww1. The russification really influenced our opinion on russia. 3 I think a important part to mention is that stalin expected the former finnish reds to join them as we had had one of the blodiest civil wars in european history between the socialist reds who were suplied by the soviets and right wing whites mainly supported by germany. The big thing about the winter war was that the two sides united to repel the soviets imperialistic brain fart. It really showed us that together we are strobger and to this day we have this nobody gets left behind mentality.
Finland's infantery solders are Word Clas ! ... Nato just got stronger ❤ ... Sweeden, when are you joining ? ... Norway is safer w. Finland in the team !
The Finlandization, is basicly Soviet Union theartning Finland to NOT be touch whit the " West " and just settle and play nice whit ur neighbour's or else.. So ye, GG, funny game, whit no winners
Finland is nightmare to attack from Russian direction because of its geography. There are few roads that go to border area, there are swamp areas and dense forests. Roads go through rocks(little mountain) and are perfect ambush spots.
From russian point of wiew . If they took all of Finland it was a 80-90 % certain risk that Sweden would join NATO at that time . That was what Finland used for leveridge when russia was pushing hard about their agrement with Finland under the cold war .
The moment was the best to join, because it was known that the Russian armed forces were stuck in Ukraine, so there was no fear of Russia's armed reaction to Finland's application for NATO membership.
Law of unintended consequences may bite everyone. Russian conscription now is just like US conscription for the Vietnam War and part of the reason why the US lost.
Every Finnish person does not have to serve. Here are your options as Finnish Man: 1) Go to the Finnish Self Defense Army. Serve the nation 2) Go to Civil services for one year. Since 2008 when there is war you don't have to go fight but you will have to do basic mandatory labor for free 3) Go to JAIL! 4) Magically skip this whole process (There might be an error and you never get invited) 5) Overweight, don't have to take part 6) Mental stability, not recoomended by any. Can have negative effect on life 7) Disability other than two previous
27:35 indirectly Finland brings the investment that Poland has brought because it all comes from EU funding that Poland receives, and Finland has always been paying their part when those funds are gathered.
The Nordic countries have a stronger cooperation in the Nordics than we have with the EU. This may develop into a Nordic Union, but this will be a union of sovereign countries. We can work and do not need a passport to be in each other's countries, unlike the EU. Our embassies cooperate and are often in the same building. Obarma considered us to be a Nordic Union. Due to the threat from Russia, the Nordic countries have doubled our military and are now a well-tested separate unit within NATO, of which the USA is an official part. In the exercises, the American elite troops gained valuable new experience in ice water training. In the future we should call ourselves the Nordic Union, but only by sovereign countries. We will strengthen our cooperation and lower the priority of bureaucracy from the EU in the future. Few other countries can join the Nordic Union if they want the Nordic model and have our mentality, like Scotland. The Baltic countries do not have it yet, but are part of the Nordics anyway.
Russia borders both Norway and China. That makes it insanely huge, but also gives it a lot of internal stuff to take care of... Being such an imperialistic regime might not be such a nice idea in the long run.
Thanks for nice reaction video. We do need our brother nation 🇸🇪 onboard as well for strategist, Baltic Sea and close co-operation integration reasons. And let's not compare Finland to Ukraine, let's be realist here, Ukraine is hugely bigger with the largest artillery in Europe and well-trained army (from 2014).
23:00 30 000 illegals came from Sweden not Russia. After Hungary closed it's border and the illegals started searching for new routes they showed up in Russia and about a thousand ended at Finland's border.
Anyone who calls you a war monger for defending yourself from an aggressor, that person is siding with the aggressor and therefore is a war monger. So you're siding with the attacker and are a war monger. Your logic eats itself XD
Finland made a real stupid decision by joining Nato. We are now welcoming restless times to our eastern border and the Gulf of Finland. US seeing us as a new member in the battlefront against Russia is very concerning. 😖
Can not figure why would Russians....sorry, putler want to come in here. Everytime Putler or his admins say something i seriously doubt every word that they say, If putte says something exept the opposite
Just more unnecessary cost and the threat of being a nuclear target, not to mention the presence of an American base they will have to pay for forever. And all done whether the people want it or not. They would have been better off staying neutral.
Yup, NATO is completely pointless as an organisation.. since the collapse of the USSR there has been literally no reason for it's existence. Except to use as a cover for Americas proxy wars, like Ukraine.
So, now that your subhuman country has ran out of money, do they pay you in vodka or in cabbage and onions? Judging by your moronic comment, it has to be vodka. Choke on it.
Here a Finn watching this video! Finland is ready for anything. We have been preparing since the last war.
Finnish geography is great for defencing against enemy rolling from east. 😎👌
If Russia tries anything funny we'll back you up. Frankly, we'd back up Satan himself if Russia tried to invade hell.
Greetings from Poland.
Defence and getting through is carved deep in our culture.
Everything in Finland after last war has been designed with war in mind. Large roads don't go horisontally and all of them go through solid rock which are ready to be blown shut quickly. Electricity infrastructure is prepared for war. Water supply is prepared. We have natural forests and swamps between Russia and Finland because it gives a natural protective wall. Army is always ready. Any company that has anything to do with infrastructure, has to have plans in case of war.
We haven't been asleep with Russia.
@@ojololo also dont forget that literally every bridge is built in with "explosive compartments" on the ready in case they need to be blasted.
🇫🇮Finland has Never been alone and never will!
🇪🇪Estonia will allways be there for them as they have been for us!
I find it bit odd that whenever finnish 20th century wars are being brought up, lots of people remembers the swedish volunteers, but rarely anyone talks about the estonian volunteers, Soomepoisid, who returned back to soviet-occupied Estonia after the wars, and waged their own war against the soviet occupiers for years to come.
@@VonArmagedda
Jep, thousands of Estonians.
@@VonArmagedda irembermber and sadly to remember all them died =(
@@VonArmagedda but if needed i know finland will help also.. now thou i cant im too sick but willtry to help if needed... 2x cancer so cant work etc so im leech but can try to fight if needed =)
About the navy: the US needs a blue water navy and force projection capability across the world. Finland only wants to operate in the shallow waters of the Baltic Sea, dotted by thousands of islands.
The Pohjanmaa class is officially a corvette, but if you look at the displacement it would be in the frigate range.
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Pohjanmaa started as Corvette, but it has grown almost by 1/3rd since its original designs, it is now easily a Frigate size.
After Russia went in to Ukraine a swedish reporter feeling the fear of Russia expanding to the West asked a ex minister of Finland how the Finns were feeling about the sudden Russian threath . The ex minister answered - In Sweden you are worried and scared about Russia . In Finland it is Tuesday .
The response is like what sudden threat.
We have been preparing for shit like this for 80 years
Difference is that Sweden has been neutral for 200 years and most of them don't even know what war is like anymore. That's why they have been doing "scare talk" in swedish media because they need to wake everyone up from hibernation. In Finland that is not needed because we are fully aware that some day Russia might come over border with bad intentions.
too much true you must be us in the front :D
Who said this? :)
🇪🇪Estonians fought along side 🇫🇮Finnish troops in the Winter war to save Finland, no influence of Russia here only by the Finns our brothers!
Tervitused Soomest! Our southern brothers, it's great to be in Nato with you. Let's hope that Sweden will join soon.
As a Swede i allways saw Finland as a sentinel of the north .
Fint sagt! Men ett tack borde även gå åt Sveriges håll för att ha stått vid vår sida då stödet behövdes som mest. Hoppas Sverige kommer så snabbt som möjligt in i Nato och vi kan samarbeta i sammanhållning, kanske t.o.m. mer än vi gjort förr. 🤝
@@calidusnex328 Är väl lite jävig i frågan i.o.m min mamma är från Finland men kan ingen Finska tyvärr .
@@mrbrand4720 Nå det gör väl inte så mycket, men ifall du vill går det ju alltid att lära sig vid ett senare tillfälle :) Jag har själv rötterna från Sverige och Tyskland (detta går alltså tillbaka 300 år), så är en del av finlandssvenskarna i Finland (ättlingar till de svenskar som blev här efter finska kriget). Alla finlandssvenskar i Finland kan ju så klart svenska, men mångas finska är inte heller på så hög nivå som man kunde anta.
Our enemy hasn't ever come from south or west. Just saying.
@@ninyli1 That's very true... Always from the east.
The territory near the border is full of lakes, which makes for easy to defend choke-points. All of the bridges are required to be easily collapsible. The few freeways that go from east to west also have points with collapsible rock-faces on one or both sides. The Freeways also have points that can be converted to de-centralized air-strips
Finnish terrain is such that vehicles must use roads and on average there are 2.3 perfect ambush places per meter. Ukrainian army has done well consider they don't have so perfectly defensible landscape.
Yes you have at least one Finnish person watching your videos👋✌️
Two 😉
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Finns are very.. I really mean VERY stubborn group of ppl, thats why we remain independent :)
I know!...I was married to one for over 20yrs!
@@julianbarber4708 My hat is off for you, 20 years with a Finn is a lot 😂
Very interesting video. Doesn't Helsinki have that huge underground shelter that's more like a city? On a less serious note, Finland is home to the best band in the world, Nightwish!
We have multiple bunkers/shelters all around the nation but surely also in Helsinki and other big cities to cover recidents if needed. And love Nightwish too ;.)
Helsinki has really big underground shelter/tunnel network
Yeah, we are prepared to war with russia. The best band ever is Peer Günt Though. ua-cam.com/video/iF_1kJMRktQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=hetuman3
The underground shelter network can house 600 000 people in Helsinki
@@Wiliraughshai Wow!
I am finnish and my friend is going to fight for ukraine next week. Many finns have been fighting in ukraine because it is almost same as if rusdia attacks finland.
Respect!
No it is not. Finns also fought in ISIS troops. Finns are stupid.
@MrBanaanipommi lähtikö kaveris sit vai ? Minkälaisella taustalla tää jätkä on ?
@@juha1258 se oli mun luokalla, pitkään harrastanu airsoftia ja sotahistorias jne.
@@MrBanaanipommi Mikä meininki nyt? Onks hengis viel? Mullaki frendi käyny ajaas autoo jo vissii viistoista keikkaa eestakas, vieny tarvikkeita jne.
You should learn about the finnish mentality, Sisu, finns do not simply give up, they keep going.
That toilet paper reserve came handy when the pandemic started. People went a bit mad about hoarding supplies and in first couple of weeks the stores had some deficiencies on toilet paper, dry food, and meat. That was mostly because of all the news about shortages all over the world. It didn't take long for people to realise that there was no real shortage on any of the above and things turned to normal again.
There is a old finnish saying that goes like this: If the enemy is not coming from the east....he's flanking
In the army for some reason the enemy was always approaching from the East 😂, all the shooting ranges , scouting etc. Was always done in a way that the enemy was approaching from the east 😂. I was trained as a military police during my time in the army.
It is Finnish compass, true North is in the East 😂
Finn here. I think we joined Nato to deter any possible attack. Yes, getting the help if we are attacked is important, but I think most of us want to avoid any fighting all together. And being a part of Nato does that. The time after the WW2 was hard. Finland, same as most of the Europe, was in ruins. We had to build our country again and pay massive war reparations to USSR. And we couldn't partisipate on the Marshall Plan, because we had to be mindfull about our relationship with USSR. But we stayed independent and we were on the west side of the Iron Curtain. We had hope and we had a a chance. I think USSR didn't want to fight us because it would have been a endless guerrilla war, with very little payment.
Finland's defense force is LEGENDARY!!!
When its about war or ice hockey, we take it pretty serious. Political toughts and ideologys just dissappear. "against the mutual enemy we stand as one" in ice hockey its our western neighbour and in war its the eastern one.
16:46 nice of him to use the 1800s grand duchy/greater finland map while talking about modern geopolitics
The era of Finlandization is rather nuanced.
Pretty much after the war, USSR forced Finland to sign the agreement of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance (Ystävyys-, yhteistyö- ja avunantosopimus in finnish), which dictated that Finland cannot allow other powers to use her territory to invade USSR territory. Reason is simple, Finland allowed Nazi Germany to use Finnish territory to invade USSR in 1941.
Also Finland was forced to pay war preparations to USSR, almost 300 million U.S dollars, which Finland paid, the last payment was paid in 1952.
But the actual finlandization started in 1958, caused by the event known as night frost crisis (yöpakkaset), the relationship between Finland and the USSR soured after the 1958 Finlands parliamentary elections, when the left wing Finnish People's Democratic League got the majority, but they were left outside the cabinet of ministers, which angered the USSR as the FPDL was pro-USSR, and Fagerholms SDP (Socialist Democratic Party) wasn't in USSRs favor. USSR pulled out their ambassador and send a note that they won't accept Fagerholms cabinet. For this reason minister of foreign affairs, Johannes Virolainen resigned, and Fagerholm announced the resignation of his cabinet.
Throughout the 60's, USSR more or less controlled Finlands foreign politics, so much so that the CIA saw Finland as USSRs puppet state, and not neutral at all (Though CIA never liked Finlands neutrality policy)
Things calmed down in the 70's, and in the 80's as Gorbatsov became the Soviet premier, Finlandization kinda ended, but it's remains was still to be seen because of Finlands own internal censorship towards anything which could be seen as harmful to Finno-Soviet relations.
And the whole reason why all this happened, was the constant threat of Soviet invasion.
Snow only speaks when it has something to say but is always watching.
Awesome Work Bro 👍👍 Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
Finland and Estonia are the last surviving independent ugric thribes. Yes there are some ugric cultures in Latvia, Sweden, Norway and lot of them in Russia, But Estonia and Finland has independece and neather one of them is planing to be the last one! Will to stay indepentednt is strong And that makes a better soldier.
Technically they are the last independent Fennic tribes of the Fenno-Ugrics. Ugrics are a different subgroup:
(From Wikipedia) The name Ugric is derived from Ugrians, an archaic exonym for the Magyars (Hungarians) and Yugra, a region in northern Russia. Ugric includes three subgroups: Hungarian, Khanty, and Mansi.
Well...living in a shooting distance from Helsinki/Vantaa airport and that being my husbands wartime base has somewhat made me nervous and the NATO thing is a must right now.
Many Finns also didn't want to join NATO because of the US and its infamous wars around the globe. But even so, after Ukraine, it was clear Finns needed to choose a side - and they chose the west.
There's a tonne fo tripe against NATO because of the US legendary peace initiative
A corvette is the smallest class of warship above a gunboat. The Finnish coast is shallow waters and copious small islands, a modern destroyer would have far too deep draft to go everywhere. A corvette can have advanced weapon systems and hide among islands, and it can be very very fast with extreme acceleration.
After the WW2 and during the Cold War Finland was the country between the East and the West and had a significant role as a peace keeping nation politically and otherwise: "How did Finland deal with the Soviet Union after the World War?", "1952 HELSINKI OLYMPIC GAMES: Opening ceremony (1952)", "YKSK - Yhdistyneiden Kansakuntien Suomen Komppania 1956-1957 | Finnish UN Company 1956-1957", "Kekkonens Nightmare", "Why did Finland have Soviet MiG-21s?" and "PASI - rauhanturvaamisen työjuhta". Fighter jets are good indication of the country's geopolitical stand and position. Here's Finnish Air Force in the 80s and the arrival of the first Hornets in 1995: "Arkistojen kätköistä - From the archives: Ilmavoimat 1980-luvulla - Finnish Air Force 1980´s" and "Ensimmäiset F/A-18 Hornetit saapuvat Suomeen, Pirkkalaan 7.11.1995".
Interesting Video thanks for sharing it
In army (7 years ago for me) we Fins had a joke that: "Enemy comes from east and its not Sweden". 😂 (East is not typo)
We say the same in Sweden, the threat is always in the east. That's why we have the Karl XII statue pointing to the east! And we dont mean Finland, but Russia :)
"keltanen valtio hyökkää aina idästä." :D
6:40 there was a very nice 8-part document series, "Cold War's Finland" (Kylmän Sodan Suomi) made by the local TV station just a couple years ago.
I'm not sure if it's translated to English, but it is available online for free. English subs should be fairly easy to provide if needed.
Also, I must say that the way the Warographics' narrator constantly speaks of "HELSINKI's defense" strikes me just funny. Most of the Finns couldn't give rat's ass about Helsinki.
950,000 trained reservists, 1700 artillery pieces and 1343km of border with Russia
Finlands also an excelent launching ground for a possible invasion of St.Petersburg
Finland has extremely well bunkered infrastructure and is heavily forested area which is easy to defend!
Perfect addition for a defense alliance
If you want to know a bit more about post war Finland, then this video was ok and fairly simple about it:
ua-cam.com/video/cVAR60UocdQ/v-deo.html
A lot of nyances of Finlandization is missing from it, but I don't think there is better videos made about it in english than in finnish. A finnish author called Jari Tervo made a long series about finlandization for YLE. Anyone interested in me haxing it to eng subtitles?
And howdy from Finland! 🤠
Early 90' we had "lama"(depression) and the closing of bases was because of the problems of the old buildings and todays standards(like we are living to sterile today so when boys not used to the cousy old buildings and the extra stuff growing in em they got sick).
Best way to think what was going on through finlandization was that there was a swinging sword above your head. At times you needed to halt your progress to appease the sword and once the winds from the west or east started to move the sword, than you would find few opportunities to do some subtle movement for todays future.... Thank God those times are over.
US Navy has the LCS's, which are comparable to corvettes. Corvette is ment for littoral waters. Though like other have said, the Pohjanmaa-class will be a corvette in name only.
Zelensky visited Finland last week, to meet with the leaders of the 4 Nordic countries who are the 3rd largest suppliers of weaponry to Ukraine. The Nordic countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland) have a larger economy and GDP than Russia according to the World Bank, and because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, have agreed to establish a unified air defence, which will include 139 brand new F-35 stealth fighter jets, 131 partly brand new Jas-39 Gripen fighter jets, 88 F-16 and F-18 Hornet fighter jets (not counting 55 trainer jets of the mentioned variants). The Nordic countries are now also greatly pushing for the donation of fighter jets in a coalition with other European countries.
By joining NATO, Finland are also adding an active army personnel of 280,000 (ready for war) and a further 900,000 reserve personnel already specifically trained to face the Russians if needed. So actually the largest army in Western Europe, and while Russia is pulling old T-55 tanks out of retirement with Putin also promising to modernize over 1,600 tanks over the next 3 years, Swedish manufacturer Saab expects to generate 400,000 units of Carl Gustaf, AT4, NLAW anti-tank weapons and ammo a year, or 1.2 million units over the next 3 years.
Government support to Ukraine: Military aid, € billion, Commitments Jan. 24, 2022 to Feb. 24, 2023. top-10
1. United States €43.2bn
2. United Kingdom €6.6bn
3. Nordic Countries €4.0bn
4. European Union (EU) €3.6bn
-. Germany €3.6bn
6. Poland €2.4bn
-. The Netherlands €2.4bn
8. Canada €1.4bn
9. Baltic Countries €1.1bn
10. Italy €0.7bn
--. France €0.7bn
The secretary general of NATO is Norwegian, and Norway recently made a commitment, signing a deal that will provide Ukraine with $7.5 billion worth of weaponry and support over the next 5 years, just as Denmark revealed last week, that they are sending a special spring offensive support package worth $250 million to Ukraine. (so non of that is in the stats from late February above)
The package consists of, among other things, financial contributions for more air defence systems in cooperation with other NATO partners, armored anti-mine vehicles, M/97 man-portable mine-clearing line charges (designed to create a 25m path in a minefield by using a special charge, which is propelled over the area by a small rocket) and special vehicles designed to salvage tanks and break through tank obstacles, Pontoon bridges, ammunition, night vision equipment, mortar rounds, fuel, first aid equipment and field rations are included in the package.
“We know the Russians have dug in across occupied areas in Ukraine via trenches, minefields and other obstacles in a bid to halt a Ukrainian offensive. The material in the donor package is important to pave the way for Ukrainian tanks and the armored infantry on the frontline. Moreover, we are strengthening efforts to maintain key capacities.” Defence minister Troels Lund Poulsen said.
16:38 Look at the Swedish Visby korvet that is what a korvet is .
Dont remember have ya check about Finland "Bomb/Fallout Shelters"
Great video for you bud
What is it with your MASSIVE drink containers??? 🤣
He is that piss poor he hasn't got a glass to drink out of! Sorry McJ! Hahah-hah!
One major contribution is the airspace. Now NATO aircrafts can fly along the border and do surveillance / reconnaissance missions there.
And US has already done that after Finland joined NATO. And of course Finnish air force does that all the time, it's not uncommon to see Finnish hornets flying across the sky.
During the past five years Russian oligarchs have bought land near locations that are strategically important and they have built structures there that can be used for military purposes like helicopter landing pads, warehouses, huge decks and large cabins. There are over hundred of these bases across the country. Putin is waging an imperial war in Ukraine and if he succeeds it is likely that he will attack other countries that once were part of the Russian Empire or Soviet Union. Our grandparents fought the Red Army in the Second World War and then they built a decent democratic country. Their bravery, determination and hard work would inspire most citizens to fiercely defend this country.
The Baltic sea is very shallow so not a great place for large ships or aircraft carriers or what not. I think the US army operates more on open/deep waters so it doesn’t really have the need for corvettes?
Just watched your coronation video you missed the best bit the procession back to Buckingham Palace in the gold state coach with 4000 military marching bands and more
Not joining NATO was also a way to tell Russia that we see no need to gang up against you because you arent doing anything more wrong than USA. Like USA aint an angel neither is Russia, both in a bit different ways but the war against Ukraine changed the balance so much that taking a side was the only right thing to do. Back in the 90's when we talked about it most that I spoke with didn't want to get mixed up with the messes of USA and NATO was starting to look like an ancient ww2 thing(thats probably why we ended up just taking the partneship for peace). We were starting to build relations with Russia again and people even dared to go there working(like it was still a shady place to go). It was a time of hope that finally we get peace and joining something that speaks against peace . Then came Putin and even the Russians I worked with were unsure first but later it changed to "this is not a good thing"(Never asked why or what but it was after an election with Putin continuing his time on the throne).
Before the war in Ukraine we had relatively good relations with Russia. Business and so on was vast. So no reason to join NATO, we mainly have the mindset of wanting to be left alone. The doubt towards Russia was always there and i doubt it will never heal fully. Hence the vast preparedness in the case of an attack. NATO is just a (big) added bonus of safety factors.
Prepping aspect is also visible in the video of Finland's bunkers-video, maybe react to that too: ua-cam.com/video/922Db-kztC0/v-deo.html
Somehow every video fails to acknowledge that Finnish men don't actually HAVE to serve in the military, they can opt for the civilian service instead. Also Finland doesn't have additional 900k reservists on top of the 280k. 900k is the total number including the wartime strength of 280k.
@Risto Kempas I think it is important to note that since only around 70% of Finnish men complete their conscription service nowadays.
As one could expect, the years immediately after the war were harsh with Finland having to pay war repairs and roll over when Moscow told them to. However, it continued for decades, and the crescendo was somewhere in the late 60s and early 70s when the baby boomer generation came old enough to be politically active, and there was an active process of naming and shaming all individuals who were found to be anti-Soviet, very much akin to the cancel culture of today. The 1980's was much more relaxed and was a period of remarkable economic growth, westernization and the culmination of the Nordic welfare model. Unemployment was very low, salaries were very good and most people were living the dream in that period. That all ended in the early 1990s depression, which was partially caused by the collapse of the Soviet Union and the resulting drop in export income.
Finns will bring a very strong army with perhaps the strongest artillery in Western Europe. Also the defence is used to operate in harsh cold conditions and they have a pride of their nation, which helped through their three wars during WWII. (Two wars against USSR and the third against their former allied Germany) The Air Force has grown in size and with their 60 or so Hornets are not a push over to any offender of the air space. It will be interesting to see how the new corvettes will fit in, at least they will be more capable and well armed than the three mine layers and four older fast attack By the way those Horets are to be replaced by 65 F35 A.s ina couple of years.
On the down side is the long border and eing close to the main naval dock yard of S:t Oetersburg and Murmansk is not far away from the Finnish border in north. Add to it the naval base of Russia at Kaliningrad. Finland is able to muster some 925 000 troops including the active, conscripts and the reserves. which is no bad considering the population of 5.5 nillion citizens. In peace time, NATO will get a closer look on what Russian Navy is doing and also what is happening in the peninsula of Kola and once Sweden is a member almost the entire Baltic Sea will be in Nato control. .
The problem is that the Northern Nordic countries is sparsly populated, this means that the road network and railway lines are a few. The northern most ports are having problems with the ice, which means that supplies will take time to get in to the site, though things will be slightly easier if Sweden joins in as These shipments can use the ice free port of Narvik in
Aa a us finn, I fully support and understand my finn brothers, my great grandfathers land was lost in karelia, what must be done must be done, thier is no question, the boxes have been checked, sisu
Some key mistakes in the video are 1 yes Finland became a part of russia in 1809 but it had been a part if sweden for 600 years. It didnt get colonised by russia it was already colonised by sweden.
And 2 Russia did try to russify finland twice. 1st was before the russo japanese war .
They had to stop the russification as the finns were revolting and there were revolts all acrross russia.
The second russification was before ww1.
The russification really influenced our opinion on russia.
3 I think a important part to mention is that stalin expected the former finnish reds to join them as we had had one of the blodiest civil wars in european history between the socialist reds who were suplied by the soviets and right wing whites mainly supported by germany.
The big thing about the winter war was that the two sides united to repel the soviets imperialistic brain fart.
It really showed us that together we are strobger and to this day we have this nobody gets left behind mentality.
Finland's infantery solders are Word Clas !
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Nato just got stronger ❤
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Sweeden, when are you joining ?
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Norway is safer w. Finland in the team !
"...to haag court:" finland from winterwar spirit vs savers
We are ready PERKELE!
The Finlandization, is basicly Soviet Union theartning Finland to NOT be touch whit the " West " and just settle and play nice whit ur neighbour's or else.. So ye, GG, funny game, whit no winners
Finland is nightmare to attack from Russian direction because of its geography. There are few roads that go to border area, there are swamp areas and dense forests. Roads go through rocks(little mountain) and are perfect ambush spots.
From russian point of wiew .
If they took all of Finland it was a 80-90 % certain risk that Sweden would join NATO at that time .
That was what Finland used for leveridge when russia was pushing hard about their agrement with Finland under the cold war .
The moment was the best to join, because it was known that the Russian armed forces were stuck in Ukraine, so there was no fear of Russia's armed reaction to Finland's application for NATO membership.
It will bring me, and I will destroy everything with my almighty power of "vitutus" 🤷
Well it has been shaky for a very long time in the world with it's ups and downs that it is almost . . . . . normal state of mind now somehow .
Law of unintended consequences may bite everyone. Russian conscription now is just like US conscription for the Vietnam War and part of the reason why the US lost.
Every Finnish person does not have to serve. Here are your options as Finnish Man:
1) Go to the Finnish Self Defense Army. Serve the nation
2) Go to Civil services for one year. Since 2008 when there is war you don't have to go fight but you will have to do basic mandatory labor for free
3) Go to JAIL!
4) Magically skip this whole process (There might be an error and you never get invited)
5) Overweight, don't have to take part
6) Mental stability, not recoomended by any. Can have negative effect on life
7) Disability other than two previous
if russians would attack, i would be placed to the same area my grandfather was fighting red army
27:35 indirectly Finland brings the investment that Poland has brought because it all comes from EU funding that Poland receives, and Finland has always been paying their part when those funds are gathered.
Why he is referring to Helsinki all the time when he means Finland?
It's the norm to refer to the capital for some reason
The Nordic countries have a stronger cooperation in the Nordics than we have with the EU. This may develop into a Nordic Union, but this will be a union of sovereign countries. We can work and do not need a passport to be in each other's countries, unlike the EU. Our embassies cooperate and are often in the same building. Obarma considered us to be a Nordic Union.
Due to the threat from Russia, the Nordic countries have doubled our military and are now a well-tested separate unit within NATO, of which the USA is an official part. In the exercises, the American elite troops gained valuable new experience in ice water training.
In the future we should call ourselves the Nordic Union, but only by sovereign countries. We will strengthen our cooperation and lower the priority of bureaucracy from the EU in the future. Few other countries can join the Nordic Union if they want the Nordic model and have our mentality, like Scotland. The Baltic countries do not have it yet, but are part of the Nordics anyway.
We finns have a word, Sisu. It means never give up, no matter what. Sisu.
Finlands - K9 Armored Dogs!! In Russia the Armored Bears are part of the Russian Army!!!!XD
Most of the Ruzzias ice breakers are built in Finland.
When Russia attacked Ukraine, Finland's arms trade ran out of supplies, as the Finns bought them all
Russia borders both Norway and China. That makes it insanely huge, but also gives it a lot of internal stuff to take care of... Being such an imperialistic regime might not be such a nice idea in the long run.
Thanks for nice reaction video. We do need our brother nation 🇸🇪 onboard as well for strategist, Baltic Sea and close co-operation integration reasons. And let's not compare Finland to Ukraine, let's be realist here, Ukraine is hugely bigger with the largest artillery in Europe and well-trained army (from 2014).
Putin is Ready for anything! Even for a war - Putin?Putin - Even for a war !XD
I`m looking forward to the next video, what Will Sweden bring to Nato!
I dread that video…
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23:00 30 000 illegals came from Sweden not Russia. After Hungary closed it's border and the illegals started searching for new routes they showed up in Russia and about a thousand ended at Finland's border.
Torille!
Do what you like but include me out, Warmongers do it for yourselves.
Anyone who calls you a war monger for defending yourself from an aggressor, that person is siding with the aggressor and therefore is a war monger.
So you're siding with the attacker and are a war monger. Your logic eats itself XD
Has NATO become as toothless as the US Dollar?
Finland made a real stupid decision by joining Nato. We are now welcoming restless times to our eastern border and the Gulf of Finland. US seeing us as a new member in the battlefront against Russia is very concerning. 😖
Russia PROVOKED the annexation of Finland by NATO.
You need to buy a better camera with your UA-cam income my dude...
Can not figure why would Russians....sorry, putler want to come in here. Everytime Putler or his admins say something i seriously doubt every word that they say, If putte says something exept the opposite
Finland was and is a socialist nation and a capitalist nation. Both overwhelmingly.
Just more unnecessary cost and the threat of being a nuclear target, not to mention the presence of an American base they will have to pay for forever. And all done whether the people want it or not. They would have been better off staying neutral.
Ukraine was neutral in 2014. Finland was neutral in 1939. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Absolutely not😅
Yup, NATO is completely pointless as an organisation.. since the collapse of the USSR there has been literally no reason for it's existence. Except to use as a cover for Americas proxy wars, like Ukraine.
We are perfectly happy with our decision.
So, now that your subhuman country has ran out of money, do they pay you in vodka or in cabbage and onions? Judging by your moronic comment, it has to be vodka. Choke on it.
They better bring 70 years of catch-up payments, don't see why they should get in for free now.
Supertuna, Shut Up Gayfish!!!😅😅😅
@@tonikaihola5408 Exactly Toni, Juuri näin. Perkeleen Supertuna, Gayfish Asshole!!!
If anything NATO should pay Finland, which has been helping in NATO operations without enjoying the protection that membership brings.
@@filipohman7277 wow.. clever, grow up!🙄
@@tonikaihola5408 do fence sitters get payed well then?