Great video! Worth noting that it's pretty trivial to install Synology's OS onto your self-built NAS if you really wanted to. Endless options in the DIY home server space. Welcome to the community :)
Good video - thanks for sharing your experience. It would really help to also have some power consumption figures - with no HDDs, with HDDs idling, etc., etc.
Great case! I build setup with 8 4tb 1 nvme and 2 ssd 32gb ECC ram All of this with gigabyte b550i aorus pro ax . I swap the ax card for m.2 to 2.5GbE nic and now i had 2 2.5 ports that I plan to use as agg lacp. The cpu is AMD Ryzen 5 pro 5650ge I installed Truenas scale and now plan to migrate all my docker containers from openmediavault
Very good video man! I have almost identical setup except mainboard and use it for half a year, so want to add some info to it... I currently use CWWK AMD NAS mainboard (7940HS) which perfectly fits to Jonsbo N3 (it has native 9 SATA slots and chipset is ASM - discuss it later). I also have and tested CWWK N100 as yours in the video, but finally decided to switch to AMD board. Why? IMHO CWWK N100/N300 mainboards have a lot of drawbacks - suprisingly power draw when idle (and no HDD) is higher than AMD, N100 is very weak CPU (4 cores/4 threads), it has only one NVME M.2 (second NVME M.2 is shared with PCI slot), only one DIMM slot, SATA chipset is JMB (known for problematic adjustment of ACPI power), PCI slot is only x1 (shared with one NVME - you have to decide what you want to use), also there is only 6 SATA ports build-in, while N3 has 8 SATA bays + one internal non-hotplug internal SATA SSD. The only advantage of N100 board is QuickSync in iGPU - from my perspective it also very controversial issue, especially if you get in mind that AMD has 780M iGPU. In other hand AMD board has much powerful CPU and iGPU. CPU has 8 very power efficient cores (16 threads), iGPU is best in class 780M, with much better graphics performance than weak Intel UHD iGPU. AMD CPU is better performant (at least 4x faster in comparison to N100), CPU is very power efficient Zen4 with TSMC 4nm process (like mobile CPU right?), 2 x NVME M.2 (not shared), 2x DIMM slot, 9 SATA port built-in with ASM chips (much better than JMB and you can get full advantage of your Jonsbo N3 case), full 16xPCI slot (with 8x PCI lanes). In comparison N100 board takes about 18-20W idle (measured from wall). Identical configuration on AMD - 13-15W. On AMD with running lots of services (on Proxmox) - 2 NAS services, over 30 docker services (Immch, MariaDB, Bitwarden, Guacamole, WEB servers and many more), 3VMs (Win11 + Ubuntu Desktop + HomeAssistant) and while disk are in sleep mode it draws only 24W. Of course AMD has higher price (N305-280$ vs AMD-480$) , but you usually build your NAS for years, right? So in general adding 200$ you will get more poverful and capable 9-bay NAS instead of 6-bay...
@@lukeybabe as MB I am using CWWK AMD NAS board with AMD (Ryzen 7940HS), CPU fan - Noctua NH-L9x65, replaced stock Jonsbo N3 case fans with Arctic PWM fans. I also added two more fans for top of the case (4 fans altogether with tweaked rotation in BIOS), PSU - some kind of pico PSU from Aliexpress with external AC/DC PSU - also Aliexpress. I tested few very known brands PSU and was dissapointed how bad especially at low power consumption they are. Platinum Corsair SFF750 I tested was the worst - shame Corsair. Chieftec SFX 350BS was the best (and also cheap and available on second hand market). Corsair takes additional 15W at idle, Chieftec only 4-5W on idle over PICO PSU. But generally SFX internal psu efficiency at low power draw are not good. It is normal, because you have to stress PSU with high WATTs to take advantage of "gold/platinum" efficiency. So if you don't have external GPU PICO PSU would be enough. Memory - Kingston Furry DDR5 5600 64GB, 2x NVME 2TB GoodRam PX700, Coral TPU on A+E M.2 slot, 1x SkyConnect USB Stick for HomeAssistant, 3 x 20TB Seagate Exos. Currently only 3 HDD, but because I do a lot of RAW pictures and do lot of videos I have more in my plans. On top of that Proxmox with plenty LXCs and 3 VMs as described above. I set Exos HDD for sleeping after 20 minutes if not used - they are used if I take files for video/photo edits or somebody is watching movie on Jellyfin. Hot data are on NVME. The key for low power draw is not using VMs, or as less as possible. Everything what previously I ran on VMs I moved to LXCs. If you want to know specs of 780M look at www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs.html ---> Graphics Capabilities. There you will find specification for encoding/decoding capabilities with bandwith for 1080p/4k of this iGPU with codecs supported and other data. For my usage it is more than enough... For example decoding 1080p it is 960 frames with 8/10bpc and codec AV1. It is a lot. Bear in mind that for example if you run Jellyfin on LXCs you can share iGPU with other apps (but LXCs, not VMs). I do it for example with Jellyfin and Immich. Both running in different LXCs...
Nice video although prices in USD when based in the UK are confusing - are these all including VAT or was it actually 20% more expensive? (I read the small print at 5:47 but wasn't sure what you'd included 😉)
Yes, had the same journey. Wanted to look for something supported ECC RAM, then sort of gave up. Maybe this thread will help www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/uzgtt5/is_ecc_memory_really_necessary/
HI, a little info on Synology, on most models you cannot use NVME for storage, only a system cache. If your Synology system hardware crashes dont expect excellent help or service.
You don't actually need a 3D printer for the N2. You can simply screw in a larger 25mm/30mm thick fan from the outside of the case without the print. Works just as well.
A good competition would be a AOOSTAR WTR Pro with 8 core Ryzen CPU, 32GB ram, 2x 2.5G nic, 1TB nvm, 2x nvm slots. You get a better hardware in smaller form factor and a warranty for 500$.
this is a really great video, i may try this build. as far as adding a larger drive to the unraid array, what happens to the extra space on the drive? in this video you give the example of adding the 10TB drive...so if your other two drives are 8TB, then only 8TB of the 10TB will be used for parity. so the remaining 2TB is just wasted?
This is good for 6 bay and above, but for 4 bay there are many good options now, terramaster, Aoostar and ugreen all well priced but the Aoostar price is incredible.
Thanks for this video! planning to do a similar build and your video was very helpful. Unrelated question, do you mind sharing where did you get the drawer cabinet behind you?
for people thinking 722 is roughly all you have to pay for nas, nah. if you are adding lots of storage e.g. 4x 12tb or more, then expect to pay a couple hundred more usd to that build. And that is not even counting the backup. You shouldn't be using a nas like this without some sort of backup plan if you don't have one already. Usually that is either some external usb hard drive storage, or a 2nd nas, or cloud backup. So that too will add to the cost. Don't be thinking you can dump all your digital stuff on that single nas without a backup and you are set. Different story if the data is not important and you can afford to lose it. But chances r you may be storing important data, so you would need a backup.
Depends on what it is. What most people consider "important" is usually Documents and Pictures, which take up very little space. If you have an offsite backup for "only" the documents and pictures, it's pretty affordable. Backblaze B2 is free up to 10 GB, and then it's pretty cheap after that (I think I'm slightly over that, so I get charged like 6 cents a month or something). But the point is, you can pick and choose what is important enough to backup. You don't have to backup literally everything on there. I have around 22 TB usable on my NAS with 12 TB used, but a huge chunk of that is large files that while it would be a pain to lose them, I could afford to lose them. I'd have to re-rip all my Blu-Rays and CDs again etc. which would be super annoying, but life wouldn't be over if I lost the rips I have.
@@praetorxynnewb here but why is a backup needed if you are running raid? Aren't you protected from a drive failure and can rebuild the lost drive? Am I confusing the concept of NAS with raid? I'm planning to build a NAS in order to have my data backed up and running raid to protect it.
@drew3777 RAID is not a backup. Good backup strategy is 3-2-1. 3 copies of the data on two different mediums, one of them off-site. So for my documents and pictures, I have one copy on the SSD in my desktop, one copy on the HDD RAID10 in my NAS, and one off-site copy in BackBlaze B2. RAID does protect from drive failure depending on what type it is. RAID5 or RAIDZ1 with ZFS protect from a single drive failure. RAID6 and RAIDZ2 with ZFS protect from two drive failures. If a drive fails, the RAID array is in a degraded state, and you have to replace the failed drive and wait for the array to rebuild. This takes time, potentially a day or more for large drives. If you bought all the drives at the same time, it's possible that another drive fails during the rebuild process, and in that case, unless you're using RAID6 or RAIDZ2, or you're using RAID10 or the ZFS equivalent (striped mirror I think?) and the second drive failure is part of a different pair than the first, you'll lose everything on the array.. Most of the time you'll be fine, but that rebuild can be a scary time lol.
@@drew3777 I respodned to this once but it doesn't seem to be showing up, so sorry if it double posts. RAID is not a backup. A proper backup strategy is 3-2-1: three copies of the data on two different mediums, one copy offsite. For my documents and pictures, I fit this: one copy on an SSD in my desktop, one on the HDD RAID10 in my NAS, and one offsite in Backblaze B2. RAID provides some level of protection from a drive failure, but not total protection. With RAID5 or RAIDZ1, you are protected from one disk failure. With RAID6 or RAIDZ2, you are protected from two disk failures. With RAID10 or a striped mirror of two vdevs in ZFS, you are protected from one disk failure in each mirror. Outside of any of those conditions, if a drive fails, you'll lose everything. When a drive fails and you replace it, the array or ZFS pool has to be rebuilt by basically copying data from all the striping across the other drives to the new drive that's empty. The larger the drive is, the longer this process takes. When I replaced a 12 TB drive, I want to say it took 8-10 hours maybe. For 22 or 24 TB drives, it might take 1-2 days. During the rebuild, if another drive fails and you aren't using RAID 6, RAIDZ2, or RAID 10 / striped mirror with the second failure occurring on the other mirror, you will lose everything on the array. The vast majority of the time you should be fine, but that rebuild time can be very scary.
Just one comment, since you have two nvme slots, you could use that for mirroring your cache drive. Now, if you loose that drive anything on it is also gone if it was not yet written to the data pool.
If a cache is gone, a source is still available. NAS will report a system failure in any case, and so with or without the mirroring, you’ll have to re-upload. May be the mirroring can double a read speed, but that’s a cache drive: a data must be written first with an ordinal speed. Yet more thing. Intel offers multiple nvmes only via a chipset. When many sata drives are busy, a network card is busy, this might reduce a performance of an entire raid1 for the cache.
With the motherboard you chose, does it give you the enough sata ports for future upgrades that the case can manage? also will this setup be good for 4k editing on the network?
There's a PCIe slot which could be used to add additional Sata ports. A PCIe to Sata adapter should do the trick. Or the M.2 Slot like a M.2 to sata adapter. But I would have to double check. For 4k editing, it has a 2.5G network port. It might be enough if you are connected on a network cable. Otherwise, a PCIe to 10G network card would give you more bandwidth. I tend to just edit 4k directly on an external Samsung 2TB SSD. Then manually back it up on the NAS.
If you're the sort of person building their own NAS then you've probably already had an off the shelf NAS and want to move onto something more mature and user accessible. You may want more control of your hardware and software and be less subject to proprietary standards and unknown hardware quality. Anyone who used the SHR format option on their Synology NAS units is locking themself into a format that isn't supported by other operating systems. With that mindset, it is probably best not to buy a motherboard with an integrated CPU. It would be wiser to buy a motherboard with a socket and a separate CPU so you can replace or upgrade much more easily.
Can I ask why you chose the N3 opposed to the N4? I have no clue about computers but keen to build one of these and looking at lots of videos. Thanks in advance
I think I went for the N3 because I could have 8 full size hard drives. Where as the N4, I believe you can only have 6 full hard drives and 2 x 2.5 hard drive bays. So I decided on the N3. Although the N4 is a smaller form factor - which is nice.
N400 is not necessary imho. In case you already have some CPU with an embedded GPU (many people most likely have), for the same €190 (or €120- used, refurbished plus a used CPU) you can get Gigabyte Aorus B550/ROG Strix B760: 4xSATA (vertical), 2xM.2, Wi-Fi, DDR4. If you need more SATA (up to 8), you still have a PCIe slot. And you don’t need an M.2 wifi card, and so you can put the NAS into a darkest, coldest corner. Ryzens are cold. 65W of TDP is a piece of cake for the Noktua. And you can run some heavy tasks meanwhile in a container in parallel in opposite to N400
no pusiste la informacion de donde comprar la tarjeta para conectar todos los discos duros... No hablo de la tarjeta madre del PC, si no la tarjeta que esta abajo y hace la conexion con los HDD
I like your style, narrative and voice. However, if you shoot in 30fps it would be more appropraite for tech channel vibe and it will spice up your relaxed ambient. Good luck!
5:35 never use standard consumer SSDs as a cache they lack the endurance for that role and will die very quickly. Use intel optaine memory or enterprise SSDs
That depends on what you want to do and your technical skill level. If all you want to do is basic storage and you aren't very tech savvy, maybe. If all you want to do is basic storage and you are tech savvy, TrueNAS [Scale] runs circles around it because of ZFS. If you want to do storage and also host a bunch of apps with Docker Compose and Portainer, Synology's DSM actively gets in your way. Their Reverse Proxy GUI is woefully insufficient compared to a proper reverse proxy like traefik or swag, and they're already running nginx on ports 80 and 443, so you have to figure out how to edit these .mustache template files to change the ports of their built-in nginx to something else before you can use a proper reverse proxy on 80 / 443, and every major DSM update will put their shitty nginx back so you have to undo it again. I had to write a script for this purpose. The version of Docker on DSM is positively ancient, which is a massive problem in a setup like that. I can't even do things like have one Docker Compose stack import another one.
Not sure how I haven’t seen your videos before but this was great. So underrated, thanks for sharing your build
Thanks for taking the time to checkout the video.
Great video! Worth noting that it's pretty trivial to install Synology's OS onto your self-built NAS if you really wanted to. Endless options in the DIY home server space. Welcome to the community :)
This video made me buy it as well. Thank you for the review!
Hi sir congrats on the NAS! Love your review. I know you will be big someday haha
Best NAS case on the market. Paired with a CWWK q670 is a beast of a machine
Good video - thanks for sharing your experience. It would really help to also have some power consumption figures - with no HDDs, with HDDs idling, etc., etc.
Great case! I build setup with 8 4tb 1 nvme and 2 ssd 32gb ECC ram
All of this with gigabyte b550i aorus pro ax .
I swap the ax card for m.2 to 2.5GbE nic and now i had 2 2.5 ports that I plan to use as agg lacp.
The cpu is AMD Ryzen 5 pro 5650ge
I installed Truenas scale and now plan to migrate all my docker containers from openmediavault
Very good video man! I have almost identical setup except mainboard and use it for half a year, so want to add some info to it... I currently use CWWK AMD NAS mainboard (7940HS) which perfectly fits to Jonsbo N3 (it has native 9 SATA slots and chipset is ASM - discuss it later). I also have and tested CWWK N100 as yours in the video, but finally decided to switch to AMD board. Why? IMHO CWWK N100/N300 mainboards have a lot of drawbacks - suprisingly power draw when idle (and no HDD) is higher than AMD, N100 is very weak CPU (4 cores/4 threads), it has only one NVME M.2 (second NVME M.2 is shared with PCI slot), only one DIMM slot, SATA chipset is JMB (known for problematic adjustment of ACPI power), PCI slot is only x1 (shared with one NVME - you have to decide what you want to use), also there is only 6 SATA ports build-in, while N3 has 8 SATA bays + one internal non-hotplug internal SATA SSD. The only advantage of N100 board is QuickSync in iGPU - from my perspective it also very controversial issue, especially if you get in mind that AMD has 780M iGPU. In other hand AMD board has much powerful CPU and iGPU. CPU has 8 very power efficient cores (16 threads), iGPU is best in class 780M, with much better graphics performance than weak Intel UHD iGPU. AMD CPU is better performant (at least 4x faster in comparison to N100), CPU is very power efficient Zen4 with TSMC 4nm process (like mobile CPU right?), 2 x NVME M.2 (not shared), 2x DIMM slot, 9 SATA port built-in with ASM chips (much better than JMB and you can get full advantage of your Jonsbo N3 case), full 16xPCI slot (with 8x PCI lanes). In comparison N100 board takes about 18-20W idle (measured from wall). Identical configuration on AMD - 13-15W. On AMD with running lots of services (on Proxmox) - 2 NAS services, over 30 docker services (Immch, MariaDB, Bitwarden, Guacamole, WEB servers and many more), 3VMs (Win11 + Ubuntu Desktop + HomeAssistant) and while disk are in sleep mode it draws only 24W. Of course AMD has higher price (N305-280$ vs AMD-480$) , but you usually build your NAS for years, right? So in general adding 200$ you will get more poverful and capable 9-bay NAS instead of 6-bay...
Thanks, and thanks for sharing the detailed build you have and the AMD motherboard. I will be sure to check out the AMD motherboard.
Hi @pabloszi would you mind listing the full specs of your AMD machine including any fans etc? How is the hardware transcoding with the 780M iGPU?
@@lukeybabe as MB I am using CWWK AMD NAS board with AMD (Ryzen 7940HS), CPU fan - Noctua NH-L9x65, replaced stock Jonsbo N3 case fans with Arctic PWM fans. I also added two more fans for top of the case (4 fans altogether with tweaked rotation in BIOS), PSU - some kind of pico PSU from Aliexpress with external AC/DC PSU - also Aliexpress. I tested few very known brands PSU and was dissapointed how bad especially at low power consumption they are. Platinum Corsair SFF750 I tested was the worst - shame Corsair. Chieftec SFX 350BS was the best (and also cheap and available on second hand market). Corsair takes additional 15W at idle, Chieftec only 4-5W on idle over PICO PSU. But generally SFX internal psu efficiency at low power draw are not good. It is normal, because you have to stress PSU with high WATTs to take advantage of "gold/platinum" efficiency. So if you don't have external GPU PICO PSU would be enough. Memory - Kingston Furry DDR5 5600 64GB, 2x NVME 2TB GoodRam PX700, Coral TPU on A+E M.2 slot, 1x SkyConnect USB Stick for HomeAssistant, 3 x 20TB Seagate Exos. Currently only 3 HDD, but because I do a lot of RAW pictures and do lot of videos I have more in my plans. On top of that Proxmox with plenty LXCs and 3 VMs as described above. I set Exos HDD for sleeping after 20 minutes if not used - they are used if I take files for video/photo edits or somebody is watching movie on Jellyfin. Hot data are on NVME. The key for low power draw is not using VMs, or as less as possible. Everything what previously I ran on VMs I moved to LXCs. If you want to know specs of 780M look at www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs.html ---> Graphics Capabilities. There you will find specification for encoding/decoding capabilities with bandwith for 1080p/4k of this iGPU with codecs supported and other data. For my usage it is more than enough... For example decoding 1080p it is 960 frames with 8/10bpc and codec AV1. It is a lot. Bear in mind that for example if you run Jellyfin on LXCs you can share iGPU with other apps (but LXCs, not VMs). I do it for example with Jellyfin and Immich. Both running in different LXCs...
@@pabloszi Thanks for such a detailed response. I will take everything into consideration for a potential NAS build.
@@pabloszi how did you get the NH-L9x65 to fit did you have to remove the copper plate?
Nice video although prices in USD when based in the UK are confusing - are these all including VAT or was it actually 20% more expensive? (I read the small print at 5:47 but wasn't sure what you'd included 😉)
Excellent video! I am looking to build something like this but with ECC RAM, and this is the problem, not a lot of options unfortunatelly.
Yes, had the same journey. Wanted to look for something supported ECC RAM, then sort of gave up. Maybe this thread will help www.reddit.com/r/truenas/comments/uzgtt5/is_ecc_memory_really_necessary/
HI, a little info on Synology, on most models you cannot use NVME for storage, only a system cache. If your Synology system hardware crashes dont expect excellent help or service.
I’ve got nearly an identical setup. But managed to get a N305 motherboard with 32gb ddr4 ram used for 95 pound on eBay :)
You don't actually need a 3D printer for the N2. You can simply screw in a larger 25mm/30mm thick fan from the outside of the case without the print. Works just as well.
Or for a less conspicuous alternative that looks stock, just buy an arctic P12 slim fan. 15mm fits well into this case.
"Don't get too excited" I used a cable tie. My kinda guy. 😂😂
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Great educational video, by the way what’s the power consumption?
A good competition would be a AOOSTAR WTR Pro with 8 core Ryzen CPU, 32GB ram, 2x 2.5G nic, 1TB nvm, 2x nvm slots. You get a better hardware in smaller form factor and a warranty for 500$.
What is the power consumption?
this is a really great video, i may try this build. as far as adding a larger drive to the unraid array, what happens to the extra space on the drive? in this video you give the example of adding the 10TB drive...so if your other two drives are 8TB, then only 8TB of the 10TB will be used for parity. so the remaining 2TB is just wasted?
I easily installed a full-size Noctua fan into the N2 case without any problems and without any 3d printed adapters.
This is good for 6 bay and above, but for 4 bay there are many good options now, terramaster, Aoostar and ugreen all well priced but the Aoostar price is incredible.
I've been dreaming of a similar setup to this for myself! Tho that defaults to an i5 13400 for some less-NAS use cases
Thanks for this video! planning to do a similar build and your video was very helpful. Unrelated question, do you mind sharing where did you get the drawer cabinet behind you?
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. The drawer cabinet is the BESTA sideboard from Ikea. Configurable to your style and needs!
for people thinking 722 is roughly all you have to pay for nas, nah. if you are adding lots of storage e.g. 4x 12tb or more, then expect to pay a couple hundred more usd to that build. And that is not even counting the backup. You shouldn't be using a nas like this without some sort of backup plan if you don't have one already. Usually that is either some external usb hard drive storage, or a 2nd nas, or cloud backup. So that too will add to the cost.
Don't be thinking you can dump all your digital stuff on that single nas without a backup and you are set. Different story if the data is not important and you can afford to lose it. But chances r you may be storing important data, so you would need a backup.
Depends on what it is. What most people consider "important" is usually Documents and Pictures, which take up very little space. If you have an offsite backup for "only" the documents and pictures, it's pretty affordable. Backblaze B2 is free up to 10 GB, and then it's pretty cheap after that (I think I'm slightly over that, so I get charged like 6 cents a month or something). But the point is, you can pick and choose what is important enough to backup. You don't have to backup literally everything on there.
I have around 22 TB usable on my NAS with 12 TB used, but a huge chunk of that is large files that while it would be a pain to lose them, I could afford to lose them. I'd have to re-rip all my Blu-Rays and CDs again etc. which would be super annoying, but life wouldn't be over if I lost the rips I have.
@@praetorxynnewb here but why is a backup needed if you are running raid? Aren't you protected from a drive failure and can rebuild the lost drive? Am I confusing the concept of NAS with raid? I'm planning to build a NAS in order to have my data backed up and running raid to protect it.
@drew3777 RAID is not a backup. Good backup strategy is 3-2-1. 3 copies of the data on two different mediums, one of them off-site.
So for my documents and pictures, I have one copy on the SSD in my desktop, one copy on the HDD RAID10 in my NAS, and one off-site copy in BackBlaze B2.
RAID does protect from drive failure depending on what type it is. RAID5 or RAIDZ1 with ZFS protect from a single drive failure. RAID6 and RAIDZ2 with ZFS protect from two drive failures.
If a drive fails, the RAID array is in a degraded state, and you have to replace the failed drive and wait for the array to rebuild. This takes time, potentially a day or more for large drives. If you bought all the drives at the same time, it's possible that another drive fails during the rebuild process, and in that case, unless you're using RAID6 or RAIDZ2, or you're using RAID10 or the ZFS equivalent (striped mirror I think?) and the second drive failure is part of a different pair than the first, you'll lose everything on the array..
Most of the time you'll be fine, but that rebuild can be a scary time lol.
@@drew3777 I respodned to this once but it doesn't seem to be showing up, so sorry if it double posts.
RAID is not a backup. A proper backup strategy is 3-2-1: three copies of the data on two different mediums, one copy offsite.
For my documents and pictures, I fit this: one copy on an SSD in my desktop, one on the HDD RAID10 in my NAS, and one offsite in Backblaze B2.
RAID provides some level of protection from a drive failure, but not total protection.
With RAID5 or RAIDZ1, you are protected from one disk failure. With RAID6 or RAIDZ2, you are protected from two disk failures. With RAID10 or a striped mirror of two vdevs in ZFS, you are protected from one disk failure in each mirror. Outside of any of those conditions, if a drive fails, you'll lose everything.
When a drive fails and you replace it, the array or ZFS pool has to be rebuilt by basically copying data from all the striping across the other drives to the new drive that's empty. The larger the drive is, the longer this process takes. When I replaced a 12 TB drive, I want to say it took 8-10 hours maybe. For 22 or 24 TB drives, it might take 1-2 days.
During the rebuild, if another drive fails and you aren't using RAID 6, RAIDZ2, or RAID 10 / striped mirror with the second failure occurring on the other mirror, you will lose everything on the array.
The vast majority of the time you should be fine, but that rebuild time can be very scary.
power consumption!?
Is this powerful enough to handle 4k encoding for a PLEX server? Looks super clean!
Have tested and installed PLEX and seems to handle 4K playback
@@ChuenL Cheers :) do you know what kind of power draw you are getting with this setup?
You don't need to 3d print custom fan holder for Jonsbo n2. I replaced the stock fan with a Noctua fan.
I did the same, the fan installed without any problems.
Just one comment, since you have two nvme slots, you could use that for mirroring your cache drive. Now, if you loose that drive anything on it is also gone if it was not yet written to the data pool.
If a cache is gone, a source is still available. NAS will report a system failure in any case, and so with or without the mirroring, you’ll have to re-upload. May be the mirroring can double a read speed, but that’s a cache drive: a data must be written first with an ordinal speed. Yet more thing. Intel offers multiple nvmes only via a chipset. When many sata drives are busy, a network card is busy, this might reduce a performance of an entire raid1 for the cache.
With the motherboard you chose, does it give you the enough sata ports for future upgrades that the case can manage? also will this setup be good for 4k editing on the network?
There's a PCIe slot which could be used to add additional Sata ports. A PCIe to Sata adapter should do the trick. Or the M.2 Slot like a M.2 to sata adapter. But I would have to double check. For 4k editing, it has a 2.5G network port. It might be enough if you are connected on a network cable. Otherwise, a PCIe to 10G network card would give you more bandwidth. I tend to just edit 4k directly on an external Samsung 2TB SSD. Then manually back it up on the NAS.
Nice video after hours of search for my purpose. Can I use Jonsbo D31 Micro-ATX case with same parts mentioned in the build?
If you're the sort of person building their own NAS then you've probably already had an off the shelf NAS and want to move onto something more mature and user accessible. You may want more control of your hardware and software and be less subject to proprietary standards and unknown hardware quality.
Anyone who used the SHR format option on their Synology NAS units is locking themself into a format that isn't supported by other operating systems.
With that mindset, it is probably best not to buy a motherboard with an integrated CPU. It would be wiser to buy a motherboard with a socket and a separate CPU so you can replace or upgrade much more easily.
great video
Can I ask why you chose the N3 opposed to the N4? I have no clue about computers but keen to build one of these and looking at lots of videos. Thanks in advance
I think I went for the N3 because I could have 8 full size hard drives. Where as the N4, I believe you can only have 6 full hard drives and 2 x 2.5 hard drive bays. So I decided on the N3. Although the N4 is a smaller form factor - which is nice.
Hi! I want to build one in a few weeks, any good tips after this month and after receiving comments?
N400 is not necessary imho. In case you already have some CPU with an embedded GPU (many people most likely have), for the same €190 (or €120- used, refurbished plus a used CPU) you can get Gigabyte Aorus B550/ROG Strix B760: 4xSATA (vertical), 2xM.2, Wi-Fi, DDR4. If you need more SATA (up to 8), you still have a PCIe slot. And you don’t need an M.2 wifi card, and so you can put the NAS into a darkest, coldest corner.
Ryzens are cold. 65W of TDP is a piece of cake for the Noktua. And you can run some heavy tasks meanwhile in a container in parallel in opposite to N400
Yes that CPU couldn't handle running VMs but great for media storage like he seems to only use it for.
no pusiste la informacion de donde comprar la tarjeta para conectar todos los discos duros... No hablo de la tarjeta madre del PC, si no la tarjeta que esta abajo y hace la conexion con los HDD
What is going on with this case? I can't find it anywhere in Europe... Just postponing delivery dates...
I only managed to get the case from AliExpress: bit.ly/3AAoSdb
Sorry it is a no on the motherboard. I like firmware updates.
Synology is still the best NAS on the market. I really do hope they refresh the hardware on their consumer line up tho...
UGreen running unraid cold smokes synology with their 2013 hardware lol
@@woa4ever DSM > Unraid
Nice video, but you got to admit the DIY build is a giant tank compared to the Synology.
Thanks. Yup, you are not wrong.
I like your style, narrative and voice. However, if you shoot in 30fps it would be more appropraite for tech channel vibe and it will spice up your relaxed ambient. Good luck!
Should have used a pico PSU
Good video but dont you need a PCIe Sata card to actually use the full 8 drives?
Hi, yes, you will need a PCIe to extend and use the additional 2 drive bays.
5:35 never use standard consumer SSDs as a cache they lack the endurance for that role and will die very quickly. Use intel optaine memory or enterprise SSDs
can i connect it to my PC via USB cable?
Goodness, stop the squeaking sound at 1:53, that's annoying! Great video
N100 CPU...SMH
It's cheaper, but the Synology software is much better.
When you build any system your own, it goes without saying that you need your own software, but there’re tons of open sourced one that works awesomely
You can install their software anywhere
That depends on what you want to do and your technical skill level.
If all you want to do is basic storage and you aren't very tech savvy, maybe.
If all you want to do is basic storage and you are tech savvy, TrueNAS [Scale] runs circles around it because of ZFS.
If you want to do storage and also host a bunch of apps with Docker Compose and Portainer, Synology's DSM actively gets in your way. Their Reverse Proxy GUI is woefully insufficient compared to a proper reverse proxy like traefik or swag, and they're already running nginx on ports 80 and 443, so you have to figure out how to edit these .mustache template files to change the ports of their built-in nginx to something else before you can use a proper reverse proxy on 80 / 443, and every major DSM update will put their shitty nginx back so you have to undo it again. I had to write a script for this purpose.
The version of Docker on DSM is positively ancient, which is a massive problem in a setup like that. I can't even do things like have one Docker Compose stack import another one.
Bruh its bigger than the xbox series s