Bethesda VS Critics: How To Save The Games Industry

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  • @vicimgd
    @vicimgd 5 років тому +2294

    "but you didn't click a video about video games to get a lecture about the inherent structural antagonisms of freemarket liberal capitalist economics, did you?" i did actually

    • @kbolternorris2676
      @kbolternorris2676 4 роки тому +33

      jim sterling style

    • @noahmorris1015
      @noahmorris1015 4 роки тому +68

      i mean does he really know why we're subscribed?

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 3 роки тому +19

      I came here from Hakim's channel, I WANT to learn more about capitalism and the failures of it.

    • @zainlookboonmee
      @zainlookboonmee 3 роки тому +16

      @@LuizAlexPhoenix Oh man Hakim's channel. I guess a lot of us are watching similar channels, probably because we have shared values. Like Lindsay Ellis, Philosophy Tube, etc. They all collaborate and comment on each other's channels too.

    • @vixxcelacea2778
      @vixxcelacea2778 3 роки тому +8

      I mean, I expect it and look forward to it with Hb's videos

  • @cheezybrotherstudios
    @cheezybrotherstudios 6 років тому +2455

    Damn this unironically aged well

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 5 років тому +77

      More relevant than when it came out

    • @jaqu9001
      @jaqu9001 5 років тому +43

      not sure, i don't think Hbomb agrees as much with the message now. i think he is a lot more understanding when it comes to consumers and what they buy, and i don't think he's as critical of game companies as he is towards the system itself fueling it. could be wrong.

    • @thomasdancy2873
      @thomasdancy2873 5 років тому +90

      Oh yeah, fallout 76 made this 200% more relevant

    • @WangleLine
      @WangleLine 5 років тому +5

      And it just got even more relevant~

    • @TheActualDP
      @TheActualDP 5 років тому +60

      @@jaqu9001 You mean he's anti-capitalism? Pretty sure he's always been like that.

  • @samjupp8127
    @samjupp8127 7 років тому +2073

    My favorite fallout 4 glitch was when i had the lady killer perk, and all named female npcs disappeared from my game world

    • @kx7500
      @kx7500 5 років тому +97

      Sam Jupp fallout 4 hates feminism confirmed

    • @dinolandra
      @dinolandra 5 років тому +415

      Maybe you misinterpreted what "lady killer" meant

    • @aurielvoltaire9370
      @aurielvoltaire9370 5 років тому +177

      you mightve just been playing Lisa

    • @frenchguitarguy1091
      @frenchguitarguy1091 4 роки тому +13

      Glitch?

    • @bleysmcnutt5500
      @bleysmcnutt5500 4 роки тому +41

      @@frenchguitarguy1091 It means when there is an error in the games programing.

  • @4CFPV
    @4CFPV 5 років тому +3341

    No one listened to hbomberguy, and we got Fallout 76.

    • @TheVnom
      @TheVnom 5 років тому +164

      "...you wont miss the prettier water of the new fallout 4 which i guarantee you is in the works right now". Yep, he was right all along. Fallout 76 was a fallout 4 reskin, but shittier

    • @Haan22
      @Haan22 5 років тому +97

      @@TheVnom At least it's getting human NPCs now! It's groundbreaking technology never before seen in- Sorry, can't finish this joke...

    • @kazsura9812
      @kazsura9812 5 років тому +8

      I mean a lot of the people I follow said this was going to be shit

    • @SomethingImpromptu
      @SomethingImpromptu 5 років тому +49

      You can’t even convince gamers to not partake in the micro-transactions they hate- convince them to stop buying games they think sound epic from trash publishers? I mean, I admire the effort- it would be great if the gamer community would start taking this stuff into consideration. But on the one hand you have the fact that gamers are like pack a day + smokers of a decade or krokadil addicts or something... They may hate it, they may be miserable, but they cannot help but keep going back to the thing that makes them miserable and is wearing them down day after day. And on the other hand, gamers are one of the least woke demographics. Again, I respect this effort to stage an intervention; most important causes for the left are severely uphill battles, and if we just decide not to fight them because they’re unlikely to succeed then the future will be very dark and hopeless indeed. And just like debating fascists or conservatives or right-libertarians, while you won’t be able to get through to most, it is still worth while if you get through to some... But ugh, based on /r/gaming and “gamer gate,” if you want to get most gamers’ ire up about these legitimate issues, you’d have to repackage this issue as being the fault of women, female games journalists, and Bethesda being a cucked PC radical left-wing SJW game developer owned by secret communists (like Google and Twitter LOL). They certainly have their priorities... That much cannot be denied. Their priorities are just dumb as hell and based on misinformation and a bandwagon of idiocy.
      Jokes aside though, I do think it’s worthwhile to inject some rationality and a genuine lefty perspective into the mix, rather than completely forfeit the discourse to the most reactionary elements (in the same way I want radical leftists to vote rather than letting the worst, most right-wing demographics be the ones who vote disproportionately and create the worst of all possible worlds within the existing system. I’ve been gaming since I was a wee little baby with an N64, so while I don’t really think of “gamer” as a significant part of my identity, I do poke fun affectionately. Naturally, not all gamers are reactionary 4chan Nazis and gamergaters... It’s just a disturbingly large share of the online community in gamer-oriented circles. Just like incels; just like people who are “anti-establishment” but just have a very confused idea of who is the establishment, what motivates them, and who is against them; gamers are s big demographic who we can hypothetically appeal to if we approach them the right way and appeal to them properly- people who, by and large, have a direct interest in anti-capitalist politics, or at least challenging corporate power in particular spheres (a principle which can then be generalized to their workplaces for instance).
      So much respect Hbomberguy- you’re doing the dirty work of crawling down into the frey- the gaping maw of the beast, the line of fire of gamer-chuds everywhere who will claim you’re only doing this to virtue signal because you think it’ll get you laid by... Someone, somehow? Because of course self-interest is the only possible thing to ever motivate anyone. Nobody has higher values, it’s literally all just indirect plays to get more for me... Lol. It’s no different from racists assuming “Everyone else must think the same things, but they’re just afraid to be honest about it, because PC police.” It’s just projection from people who want to assume that their ideological pathologies are normal and in some way admirable and there’s no reason to question them or change.

    • @WangleLine
      @WangleLine 5 років тому +4

      :(

  • @ThatTrafficCone
    @ThatTrafficCone 5 років тому +677

    Oh, this video came out *before* Fallout 76.

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 5 років тому +43

      My thoughts exactly. He tried to warn us, but we didn't listen!

    • @alicavet
      @alicavet 3 роки тому +10

      And before Cyberpunk

    • @hotfishdev
      @hotfishdev 3 роки тому +13

      And before Hades.
      Perfect example of what he was describing as a good game that everyone should definitely buy.

    • @ponivi
      @ponivi 3 роки тому

      Love the pfp

    • @costelinha1867
      @costelinha1867 9 місяців тому +1

      @@alicavet And before Warcraft 3 Reforged.

  • @DragonLawyer
    @DragonLawyer 5 років тому +1982

    Fallout 3: “How dare speak ill of Bethesda!!!”
    Fallout 4: “Ok it was just ok but Bethesda is still a great company.”
    Fallout 76: “I’m here to sit and listen and take notes on all the ways you have been right and I have been wrong.”

    • @ldev8966
      @ldev8966 5 років тому +31

      Fallout 3 should have the same thing fallout 4 and fallout 4 should be this game was boring but atleast it wasn't horrible

    • @Dedfaction
      @Dedfaction 4 роки тому +76

      Sorry to necro this, but you should see the amount of fanboyism over the wastelannders update. People are defending them and saying all criticism should stop because the update has made 76 a lot more like a fallout game.
      They're getting praise. For 'fixing' (making less shit) a game over a year after release.

    • @usernamesareforidiot
      @usernamesareforidiot 4 роки тому +16

      @@Dedfaction Um... to be fair, they SHOULD be getting credit for fixing their game. They botched the release and it was trash at the time, but it's good that they put the work in to make it better. And it is. Fallout 76 is not an amazing game by any stretch, but it is worth $40 if you want to loot, craft, build, and level up with friends in the Fallout universe.
      I would prefer that games be released in a solid state, but I'm also open to games being patched and made better when that isn't the case due to publisher/investor demands for a quicker release. Otherwise, we wouldn't have Rainbow 6 Siege, Warframe, and countless other games.
      No one is saying criticism should stop, but credit should be given when due. If the devs put in a lot of work over the course of a year, I don't see the point in shitting on them for something that was out of their control in the first place.

    • @Dedfaction
      @Dedfaction 4 роки тому +52

      @@usernamesareforidiot no, sorry that doesn't wash. If they'd out effort into making an expansion pack or dlc, fair enough.
      But they've out effort into attempting to fix the game. They've out effort into aspects of the game that should have been there from the start. If I seek you a car with no windscreen or bonnet, you're not going to say thank you when I get around to putting them on a year later.
      And the cherry on top, it's STILL buggy. Still. It's not acceptable and they've been getting away with it for years now.

    • @usernamesareforidiot
      @usernamesareforidiot 4 роки тому +9

      @@Dedfaction They DID put effort into making an expansion pack. Hours of NPC quests, along with bug fixes and QOL improvements, for free. I don't disagree that they should've been there from the beginning, but I disagree that when someone does something right, we should tell them to go fuck themselves and they shouldn't have a career. Fuck Zenimax and Bethesda, but not the devs and their work.
      Your car analogy is terrible. Developers were working on this game. Their money daddy demanded the game be released before it was finished.
      EVERYONE was trashing Fallout 76 when it first released, and rightfully so. There's a reason people are turning around, and it's because they've improved the game and it's worth playing if you're into the genre.

  • @andeve3
    @andeve3 8 років тому +1288

    Wait a minute... this video is truly ACTUALLY about ethics in games journalism?! :o

    • @Trynottoblink
      @Trynottoblink 6 років тому +7

      Great album in your profile pic, by the way.

    • @crazyaf12
      @crazyaf12 5 років тому +37

      @Reg Eric hopefully that's sarcasm, but he thought all the idiots who whined about Anita Sarkeesian were either triggered anti-SJWs or alt-right freaks using dog whistles, which they were. He's definitely not a gamergater

    • @megamage911
      @megamage911 5 років тому +8

      @@crazyaf12 I mean, I identified as a GamerGater, and I was unironically only in the movement for the ethics part.

    • @crazyaf12
      @crazyaf12 5 років тому +37

      @@megamage911 dog whistles don't work on everyone

    • @voidify3
      @voidify3 5 років тому +27

      @@megamage911 you were an Angry Jack! youtube search "an autopsy on gamergate" and things might make more sense about how you were involved in gamergate. It's a 20-min video, and part of a longer series on the Angry Jack and what makes him tick, which is a great series, but that video is the one specifically relevant to the dudes who genuinely believed the ethics story and their relationship to the dudes who just wanted to harass women. (Also, you said "identified" past tense, so I'm going to hope that you won't take the series' analysis as personal attacks.)

  • @freddiet.rowlet525
    @freddiet.rowlet525 5 років тому +247

    Growing up, my parents always made me think about whether I really wanted to have something before I was allowed to buy it, and would often read the reviews of the product (usually a video game) to me before they entered any payment details. To this day, I always wait at least a few weeks after a game's release and check the reviews before deciding to buy it, and the only game I ever pre-ordered was an HD remaster of a game I already liked.
    As a result, I've made sure that every game I own is at least of decent quality, and I don't regret buying any of them.

    • @LordOfLemon
      @LordOfLemon 3 роки тому +14

      In hindsight, even HD remasters can't be trusted nowadays. Look at what they've done to Warcraft 3. Look at my poor boy! ;-;

    • @jvccr7533
      @jvccr7533 3 роки тому +5

      @@LordOfLemon I wonder what the HD remaster he talked about was...As for my experience with them: RE1 and RE0 got very good ones, Spyro is great (never played the original though) and Okami HD has become one of my favorite games ever so there are definitely good ones out there.
      To be fair, I haven't bothered with many remasters and all those mentions (Spyro excluded) were originally platform-exclusive for a platform I did not own and their remasters were thankfully released without such restrictions.
      A good rule is to never fully trust a new release. That's a bit disappointing now :/

    • @19822andy
      @19822andy 3 роки тому +6

      My son has made me proud. I don't mind waiting 12 months to get the game on sale or used. It's rubbed off on my son. Even when he has the option he'd rather buy a crap load of games on sale. I had to literally argue him into paying £15 for Nier Automata.

    • @plussum3255
      @plussum3255 2 місяці тому

      Your parents taught you a real good habit, wow.

  • @mathaeis
    @mathaeis 5 років тому +315

    My first exposure to you was a few months ago, UA-cam suggested your 90 minute Fallout 3 video. My initial reaction was "why would I watch a goddamn NINETY MINUTE video about a guy trashing a game I love?" FO3 was my first introduction to the series and I spent 125 hours loving it. But now, after randomly coming across another video of yours (Flat Earth) and falling in love with your style, I watched that video, and damn if you weren't right about everything.
    I guess my point is, you can enjoy things and still find a lot of valid criticism about them. And understanding those perspectives is only going to help things be better in the future. I might still be able to turn my brain off and enjoy the current equivalent of FO3, but if there's even the slightest chance that I might be able to discern when a game could have been a lot better, I'm going to consider my life improved for it. Thanks for all your hard work, and keep it up!

    • @agusgasco7523
      @agusgasco7523 5 років тому +8

      mathaeis This might be the best thing I’ve read this week

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 5 років тому +5

      Feels my dude. UA-cam was throwing the FO3 retrospective at me for weeks and I avoided it as it was my introduction to the series too (after which I bought the first two in a Steam bundle).
      When I eventually watched it I found myself nodding along, even remembering those moments during my first playthrough when I found myself thinking... "Wat? This shit makes no sense".
      The thing is, I will play it again, and I'll enjoy playing it. But the next playthrough will be modded right out and basically ignoring the main quest, discovering all the cool side quests and NPC encounters that I missed the first time because I was running back and forth across capital wasteland looking for the guy that the actual story was happening to.
      It's going to be great, and I have Harris to thank for that. :)

  • @veteratorvulpes1116
    @veteratorvulpes1116 5 років тому +419

    "If we don't put our fingers on the scales, we'll get fingered by the people with scales" is my new personal mantra

    • @isawadelapradera6490
      @isawadelapradera6490 4 роки тому +26

      Ah, another avid reader of "The Lusty Argonian Maid" I see.

    • @Gothstana
      @Gothstana 3 роки тому +2

      Personally I don't see a problem with scalies fingering me

    • @Tp_hedgelinghog
      @Tp_hedgelinghog 3 роки тому +2

      @@isawadelapradera6490 Hbomb missed that because he never played far in any Elder Scrolls.

    • @bionicdragon5
      @bionicdragon5 2 роки тому +1

      As a scalie, I'm not sure how to feel about that phrasing...

  • @mikaxms
    @mikaxms 5 років тому +214

    Fallout 1: Find water
    Fallout 2: Find a GECK to save your village
    Fallout 3: Find your dad and use a GECK to bring water to the wastes
    Fallout New Vegas: Find the guy who shot you
    Fallout 4: Finding Nemo, but with humans
    Fallout 76: Find your refund

    • @madeline6951
      @madeline6951 10 місяців тому +9

      Starfield: Find your refund, again.

    • @kirbymario2633
      @kirbymario2633 8 місяців тому +6

      @@madeline6951IN SPACE!

  • @djelibaebi
    @djelibaebi 6 років тому +49

    The "buy little games that seem weird and are cheap" is actually my favourite bit of advice i've ever received - I recently bought heart and slash on a whim and aside from crashing every two minutes and the outside sections looking just like hot voxel garbage its actually really cute and quirky, I really had fun with it and it was nice to play a game that was more than just a product; something that felt like a passion project.

  • @marvinwarvin8530
    @marvinwarvin8530 3 роки тому +415

    hbomberguy in 2016: this is gonna be kind of a long video, like 22 minutes
    hbomberguy 2021: here’s a 2.5 hour video about a bad anime

    • @MemTMCR
      @MemTMCR Рік тому +46

      2022: -a 2 hour video about *the 'oof sound' from roblox*

    • @Law0fRevenge
      @Law0fRevenge Рік тому +38

      @@MemTMCR did you forget about the 3.5 hour long "Deus Ex HR is ok" video?

    • @jamesburk8145
      @jamesburk8145 Рік тому +2

      Or the origins of a half second long sound effect in a childrens game XD

    • @o.s8573
      @o.s8573 Рік тому +1

      RWBY is a western animation by Rooster Teeth.

    • @Dominator150395
      @Dominator150395 11 місяців тому +34

      hbomberguy 2023: here's a 4 hour video about plagiarism on youtube. half of its runtime is about one guy.

  • @QuiteDan
    @QuiteDan 7 років тому +1574

    hbomb, if you keep making points like this, people are gonna start thinking you're a socialist.

    • @comicsans6487
      @comicsans6487 6 років тому +301

      He is not socialist he a freaking Commulist!

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 6 років тому +44

      I don't recall him having hooves...

    • @byme.9183
      @byme.9183 6 років тому +6

      + Comic Sans
      TT^TT YeS.

    • @Amphibian42
      @Amphibian42 6 років тому +91

      Christian Gasior you obviously haven't seen many of his videos then

    • @christiangasior4244
      @christiangasior4244 6 років тому +1

      I've seen about half I guess and most of it is true.

  • @diligar
    @diligar 3 роки тому +386

    “Don’t support developers who do bad business practices”
    Me, looking at months-long 6-day-week “crunch time” enforcers CD Projekt Red: 👀
    EDIT: Me, looking at how shit C2077 turned out: 🐸☕️

    • @surelylune
      @surelylune 3 роки тому +40

      thats not even bringing up the fact that hbomb mentions how bethesda stunted the reviews of skyrim SE by calling out the exact same things cdpr did to c2077

    • @IAMNOTRANA
      @IAMNOTRANA 3 роки тому +6

      All these companies are trash lol even the indie scene is turning into trash with developers getting greedy and shoving 69 useless dlc that add nothing to core game.

    • @leonmuller8475
      @leonmuller8475 2 роки тому +7

      @@IAMNOTRANA That is luckily rare though. Most Indie games are good value and get continuously developed.

    • @jasper_the_ghost
      @jasper_the_ghost 2 роки тому

      It’s a good story at least, isn’t something Bethesda can claim about their games. lol

    • @leonmuller8475
      @leonmuller8475 2 роки тому

      @@jasper_the_ghost But Bethesda also doesn‘t overpromise on stories. They never claim to have great stories.
      While CDPR did claim to have an amazing story and only delivered a decent one.

  • @illhob
    @illhob 8 років тому +742

    But doesnt this require the average gamer to have self awareness and take some responsibility?

    • @sugoiuseismoeabuse4058
      @sugoiuseismoeabuse4058 8 років тому +116

      Your statement could be applied to all industries that didn't have regulations before and required alot of people to be aware.

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 7 років тому +120

      yeah, there is that problem. And the games industry works very hard to encourage its consumers to never, ever grow up or mature in the way they think about their games. Games cannot be art as long as consumers aren't willing to also be critics.

    • @JohnDoe-ys1vb
      @JohnDoe-ys1vb 7 років тому +18

      No, please have somebody else tell me what to think about a game please i don't want to think

    • @thorodinsson3708
      @thorodinsson3708 7 років тому +9

      yeah like a citizen in a democracy which most of them probably are.

    • @Lyaso
      @Lyaso 6 років тому +8

      More like, "please somebody let me know if someone is committing fraud before I spend my hard earned money."

  • @its_nat_I_guess
    @its_nat_I_guess 5 років тому +271

    How to save the game industry: Seize the means of production.

    • @ShapezPuller64
      @ShapezPuller64 3 роки тому +10

      Or at least reverse engineer consumerism so we're not just getting spigotted by publishers/shareholders/late capitalist structures - we're actively controlling the tap.
      We collectively need to agree that *we say when* they get to take our £40.

    • @ClanWiE
      @ClanWiE 3 роки тому +14

      Gamers of the world, unite.

  • @z0e898
    @z0e898 6 років тому +662

    5. Destroy Capitalism

    • @evan7498
      @evan7498 5 років тому +5

      Z 6. Dictatorship of id

    • @janesmith1840
      @janesmith1840 5 років тому +38

      @Casswury Shut up Liberty Prime, you McCarthyist robot asshole

    • @crazyaf12
      @crazyaf12 5 років тому +27

      @Casswury well you came to the wrong channel, capitalist swine

    • @duing_under_the_influence763
      @duing_under_the_influence763 5 років тому

      😂 You wouldnt have shit without capitalism you dumb kid

    • @vagabondarcade7633
      @vagabondarcade7633 5 років тому +44

      @@duing_under_the_influence763 Yeah, because no one ever made anything without a boss telling them to.

  • @uristboatmurdered6051
    @uristboatmurdered6051 8 років тому +816

    What a nice way to celebrate a new year by reminding ourselves that Fallout will never escape the clutches of Bethesda.

    • @Jetsetlemming
      @Jetsetlemming 8 років тому +38

      At least the corporation controlling Deus Ex is doing better with it- *trips and falls over a hundred NPCs awkwardly calling fears of robot genocide "racist"*

    • @tmsphere
      @tmsphere 8 років тому +4

      Never gonna happen, let me drink your salty salty tears hmmmm

    • @Sloth7d
      @Sloth7d 8 років тому +3

      JC Denton But -but... I like Bethesda... :(

    • @Neverhoodian
      @Neverhoodian 8 років тому +10

      What a shame.

    • @ICEknightnine
      @ICEknightnine 8 років тому +16

      Go Buy Wasteland 2! The sequel to the original inspiration for the fallout series. DO IT NOW, or you will regret not having experienced it in all of it's isometric glory.

  • @nn6404
    @nn6404 5 років тому +590

    Ways to fix the games industry that Hbomb couldn't tell you but he actually meant
    Step 1: Pirate games from companies you don't like.
    Step 2: Support Devs that give power to their workers
    Step 3: End capitalism :)

    • @kappaross6124
      @kappaross6124 4 роки тому +42

      You know the last place I thought I'd see this decade lead to is pirate communists, but
      YARR ME COMRADE I BE UP FOR IT

    • @0lionheart
      @0lionheart 4 роки тому +44

      I'd honestly say don't pirate games from companies you don't like. It's not just about spending your money carefully, but also your time imo. Spend that time, like hbomb mentioned, looking into smaller indie projects that get no love. You might find the next Undertale, Superhot, Stardew Valley etc etc and that's much more valuable than wasting your time grinding in whatever AAA garbage you pirated

    • @Jekyllstein_Gray
      @Jekyllstein_Gray 4 роки тому +22

      Piracy sends the wrong message to these companies. Instead of "there's no place for practices like this in the games industry," it's "these people like what we're doing, they just don't want to pay for it."

    • @thepoofster2251
      @thepoofster2251 4 роки тому

      Step 2 should be the only step...

    • @nannite
      @nannite 4 роки тому +3

      telling people to be more discerning in how they spend their money is the exact opposite of ending capitalism

  • @Mbgengar
    @Mbgengar 5 років тому +77

    This is such a bizarre watch after the 2019 E3 conference, it feels like such a prediction of how Bethesda's shitty attitude would continue until they literally paid other people to cheer for them,

  • @petercahill6696
    @petercahill6696 8 років тому +431

    I would say the developers unionize and send the publishers to the gulags, but I guess this will have to do for now.
    I actually would like to say something serious though. I will have to admit I'm a bit skeptical on whether or not refraining from buying video games from bad companies will ultimately change anything. Not saying there isn't a possibility, but my problem is more along the lines of whether or not people on a mass scale will be willing to do so instead of a few people looking for a chance to stroke their egos.

    • @livinglifeform7974
      @livinglifeform7974 8 років тому +62

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      Agree [ ]
      Strongly agree [ ]
      Level of agreement on par with "kulaks deserved it" [x[

    • @sugoiuseismoeabuse4058
      @sugoiuseismoeabuse4058 8 років тому +48

      Developers and many employees in the game industry need to form strong, vast and outreaching unions to avoid getting the worst the industry has to offer.

    • @RadicalShiba1917
      @RadicalShiba1917 8 років тому +21

      The deaths of the kulaks is nothing compared to the misery imposed on the world by capitalism

    • @BrassNukes11
      @BrassNukes11 8 років тому +18

      I was thinking the same thing. Developers unionizing would help a bunch, although it would have to be at a massive scale in order to change anything. Plus, most computer programmers are part of the libertarian crowd, so I wonder if that would get in the way of unionizing.

    • @libertyprime5841
      @libertyprime5841 8 років тому +4

      CAPITALISM IS THE SOLE REASON COMMUNIST INSURGENTS LIKE YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SPREAD YOUR ANTI-AMERICAN PROPAGANDA.

  • @Jamandabop
    @Jamandabop 3 роки тому +39

    You know, when CD Projekt didn't give out review copies for Cyberpunk 2077 on consoles, we should have expected this.

  • @Jonnyhalo96
    @Jonnyhalo96 5 років тому +188

    calling out bethesda before it was cool

    • @FarhadHakimov
      @FarhadHakimov 3 роки тому +3

      It was always kinda cool, it just got a lot cooler after Fallout 76.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 3 роки тому +1

      @@FarhadHakimov Well... Before 76 it was more like: "Aw, look at the guys with the bugs and horse armor, aren't they adorably silly?"
      After 76 it was: "This is trash."

  • @Kraigon42
    @Kraigon42 8 років тому +50

    On the one hand, I feel good that I have almost entirely stopped backing the Triple-A gaming industry in favor of indie PC games. On the other hand, I feel bad for acting like I actually make a difference.

    • @ninjagirl889
      @ninjagirl889 4 роки тому +10

      Every bit counts. It's perfectly fine to feel good for doing a little bit of good.

    • @Kraigon42
      @Kraigon42 4 роки тому +7

      @@ninjagirl889
      While I _might_ lightly disagree because too many people think it's okay to stop at "feeling good" (myself included), I still want to thank you. Not only for typing a nice comment in response to mine, but for reminding me about this video.
      Ironically, I just pre-ordered my first video game, for what I feel are reasons hbomberguy might still approve of: the Untitled Goose Game Lovely Edition that's made out of 100% post-consumer materials (and thus fully recyclable as well). It was a game I already played and highly enjoyed, made by a very small (indie) team, and they obviously put a lot of thought and effort into making this be as impactful as possible (or, to put another way, how to impart the least impact on the environment).

    • @fellinuxvi3541
      @fellinuxvi3541 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Kraigon42 And what else can you do but do your part? I mean, you can't bring down an entire economic system by yourself.

    • @alisonpurgatory85
      @alisonpurgatory85 Рік тому +1

      drops, waterfalls, apes together strong. sure, on our own, we're not doing much, but if millions of people do what they can, that is absolutely making a difference. and honestly, it might be idealistic but I believe that it even if it were just you, that one person choosing better is making a different

  • @Rocketboy1313
    @Rocketboy1313 8 років тому +178

    I respect your willingness to call out youtubers on their crap, especially when they have legions of psycho fans who might attempt to ruin your life over a "Far Cry" Commercial.
    You have integrity. I respect that.

    • @Lurdiak
      @Lurdiak 8 років тому +41

      There's nothing inherently wrong with the youtubers who just really enjoy a company's product and make videos about how excited they are about them. They'd likely make extremely similar videos even without sponsorship. The issue is companies sending those enthusiasts advance copies, paying them, and not letting anyone else who might have a negative view anywhere near the game.
      Of course there's definitely a conflict of interest factor once the youtubers realize that next time they might not get money or advance copies if they point out something bad about the game, but that doesn't make them villainous, it just means they realize they're sort of trapped between revenue and ethics.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 8 років тому +5

      Lurdiak saying "they would have made it anyway" is a lame excuse most of the time. JonTron never makes videos like that just because he wants to and even if he did make it himself, he most likely would not have made it the same way as when the publisher is paying them for good press.

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 7 років тому +7

      I guess there's also nothing wrong with a journalist or blogger who uncritically parrots the party line of the government for cash, if they were already probably going to shill anyway.
      Look - it falls upon each of us to behave ethically, and to not let ourselves be used as tools, to what extent we can, by an uncaring, monstrous system. These people are letting themselves be used, whether they realize it or not. The best outcome is that one or two would-be shills accidentally stumble on this video and realize they can make another choice.

    • @Lurdiak
      @Lurdiak 7 років тому +6

      Did you just unironically compare enthusiast press to state run media?

    • @Rocketboy1313
      @Rocketboy1313 7 років тому +3

      We do live in a corporate oligarchy. Uncritically spouting the sales line kind of is like touting the party line.

  • @thenewcatgirl2727
    @thenewcatgirl2727 2 роки тому +25

    So basically: if we want games to be treated like art, we have to treat them like art

  • @TheBrownestFalcon
    @TheBrownestFalcon 8 років тому +260

    WHAT IS THIS AN HBOMBER VID SO SOON?
    also please do a Fallout 4 critique, I want to see you suffer
    er
    I mean I want to see you enjoy it

  • @Z50nemesis
    @Z50nemesis 8 років тому +252

    Finally some talking about real ethics in the game industry , btw i'm sure you'll like super bunny hop

    • @theevilgood
      @theevilgood 8 років тому +77

      The worst part is that there were aspects of GamerGate that had some legitimate concerns about the status of ethics within gaming journalism. The problem is it was all drowned out by people who wanted to make the issue about their own sexist philosophies.

    • @CaptainBagman
      @CaptainBagman 8 років тому +2

      Dakota Gillmore You don't join a witch hunt if you really want to fight for social justice.

    • @theevilgood
      @theevilgood 8 років тому +4

      Jugal the very notion of social justice gets some people in a Witch Hunt sort of mood. I just don't ignore it because we happen to share the same end goal. I've been ostracized and called an explainer and apologist simply for saying "this isn't the right way to pursue the goal of diversity."
      There are often nuggets of truths behind stereotypes. Overly aggressive and zealous snowflake cry bullies are the truth behind the "SJW" stereotype, and it drags everyone down just as much as the "I'm such a nice guy, why won't these sluts fuck me" MRA.
      Long argument made short: GG was a joke, and the arguments held therein would've been much more effective from someone else, but we're equally guilty of going too far at times

    • @Pinnacleofepic
      @Pinnacleofepic 8 років тому +1

      Super Bunny Hop is great, shame I had to unsubscribe because of all the blackface.

    • @lNightbringerl
      @lNightbringerl 8 років тому +2

      what?

  • @dylanvickers7953
    @dylanvickers7953 3 роки тому +83

    He should just put this audio over Cyberpunk gameplay and rerelease it.

    • @madeline6951
      @madeline6951 10 місяців тому

      hi from the future Cyberpunk is actually good and was always kinda good

  • @ScottJohnHarrison
    @ScottJohnHarrison 8 років тому +41

    Here is a long list of indie developers I support alphabetical.:
    Alexander Bruce - Antichambe - I will play his next game whatever it is.
    Analgesic Productions - Anodyne, Even the Ocean
    Blendo Games - 30 Flights of Loving Quadrilateral Cowboy (see the Errant Signal video on his games.)
    Capybara Games - Supebrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP, Super Time Force Ultra, Below
    Choice Provisions - the BIT.TRIP series.
    Christina Love - Ladykiller was on HBomb's top Ten List.
    Croteam - Serious Sam and The Talos Principle.(Can not wait to see what they do in response to Doom 2016.)
    Cyan World - Myst and Obduction.
    Davey Wreden - The Stanley Parable, The Beginner's Guide.
    Dennaton Games - Hotline Miami.
    Droqen - Staseed Pilgrim Probability 0 some other free games.
    Edmund McMillen - Bindings of Isaac, MEWGenics also half of Team Meat
    Freebird Games - To The Moon and A Bird Story - also has a no questions ask refund policy.
    Ice-Pick Lodge - Knock Knock Pathologic the void
    Jay Tholen - Dropsy the Clown, Hyperspace Outlaw.
    Jonas Kyratzes - The Talos Principle, The Sea will Claim Everything.
    Jonathan Blow - Braid, The Witness.
    Lab Zero Games - Skullgirls, Indivisible
    Mike Bithell - Thomas Was Alone, Volume.
    Matthew Brown - Hexcells Series, Squarrecells. (Good mathy Puzzle games.)
    Nifflas' Games - Knytt Series, Nightsky, Saira
    No Goblin - Roundabout and 100 Ft Robot Golf.
    Paul Robertson - A Pixel Artist/animator (Look him up on youtube he did that Gravity Falls game episode) and I will buy any game he is doing Pixels for.
    Polytron Corporation - Fez if they make another game even without Phil Fish I would buy it. (If Phil Fish made another game I would buy it too.)
    Renegade Kid - Mutant Mudds and Xeodrifter
    Squad - Kerbal Space Program (IF they make a second game I will buy it.)
    Studio Pixel - Cave Story and Kero Blaster.
    The Chinese Room - Dear Esther, Everybody's gone to the Rapture
    Terry Cavanagh - vvvvvv Super Hexagon
    Tom Francis - Gunpoint and Heat signature
    Tom Jubert - Writer of The Talos Pinciple, FTL and The Swapper
    Vlambeer - Nuclear Throne, super crate box LUFTRAUSERS Rediculous Fishing
    Zacktronics - Creators of the best games for pogrammers - Spacechem, Infinifactory TIS-800.

    • @shershahdrimighdelih
      @shershahdrimighdelih 5 років тому +1

      ++++

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 5 років тому

      2 years later, still a great list.
      It's a shame that Squad won't be making KSP2. Not gonna lie though, I'm probably going to break my self-imposed rule and preorder it even though the franchise is now owned by Take Two. The Star Theory dev team sounds really dedicated to making a worthy sequel, the concept/features sound amazing. I just hope they can keep it isolated from too much TTI fuckery.
      Also really keen to see what Justin and Matthew at Subset Games do next, I loved FTL and Into The Breach.

    • @cirlu_bd
      @cirlu_bd 4 роки тому +2

      no Toby fox ? And there's a lot of missing comas, not great to know if I'm reading just a long game title or if it's actually two or three games. Please use ponctuation in your youtube comments, that the single most missused thing down here and it needs to stop.

    • @autumnleaves4600
      @autumnleaves4600 2 роки тому

      Pixel Pushers Union 512 made Tonight We Riot, one of the few overtly leftist games I've played
      Colestia makes some amazing games too, like They Came From A Communist Planet, A Bewitching Revolution, and POST/CAPITALISM and a lot more, their games are a great educational resource while also being a lot of fun to play

    • @alisonpurgatory85
      @alisonpurgatory85 2 роки тому

      Yai Gameworks- My Hole is a Mouth of Dirt (played this recently, very punchy and unique and affecting experience), Red Haze

  • @glassmonty1487
    @glassmonty1487 5 років тому +123

    Hey it's the future, Bethesda is worse now.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 5 років тому +12

      Nah, they were shite all the time. Some of us always knew it.

    • @p-y8210
      @p-y8210 5 років тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 ah bad those are rookie statements they've truly lost their mind

    • @aliasofgray2854
      @aliasofgray2854 4 роки тому +1

      ~ _Here we are in the future, and it's shiiit._ ~

    • @jimlo
      @jimlo 4 роки тому +3

      Hey past future man. Bethesda is still pretty trash.

    • @chrispythemostfriedchicken6010
      @chrispythemostfriedchicken6010 3 роки тому +1

      Hello past future peoplez, Bethesda's officially obsolete and Obsidian took its place like it should've a long time ago.

  • @Missdreavus1
    @Missdreavus1 5 років тому +62

    -sob- I feel so bad seeing Clare here because she’s such a sweetheart that doesn’t know better. She just genuinely loves playing games and avoids drama

    • @cirlu_bd
      @cirlu_bd 4 роки тому +20

      I hate peoples that "wants to avoid drama"...
      I understand them, it's very demanding to stay critic about what you love, but I still think this is unhealthy behaviour. I try not to be rude to them anyway, they choosed to avoid harsh feelings so I wont put my WoKeNeSs down their throat, but that's still a missed opportunity to be a better consumer for them.
      I don't like being profited from, so I really don't understand how peoples are still willing to be used like that, but forcing people to change usually doesn't work, you have to be more subtle, almost manipulative, and I don't like to do that. (also I'm not suble, as seen with the begining of my comment haha...)

  • @jellosapiens7261
    @jellosapiens7261 8 років тому +248

    I really want to see a prequels video from Hbomb.

    • @owenmacdonald7428
      @owenmacdonald7428 8 років тому +12

      I agree! For me, 1 is watchable crap, with some genuinely excellent choreography in the Darth Maul fight, 3 is interesting to a degree with Palpantine's scheming and the destruction of the Jedi, and 2... 2 is just terrible. That's also my order for the Star Wars prequels - 1, 3, 2.
      (Overall, I'd rank them 5, 4, 7, 6, 1, 3, 2)
      Still, even though I'd disagree they were any good, I'd love to hear why he likes them!

    • @jellosapiens7261
      @jellosapiens7261 8 років тому +5

      I liked them A LOT as a kid, but as I've grown I've woken up to how bad they are. I still think they had some good scenes and introduced some good things to the universe as a whole that ended up being great in the EU. I think they're still watchable, though.
      My overall ranking for the films would have to be 5, 4, 6, 7, 3, 2, 1 (with 1 and 2 being extremely close.)

    • @spesiellegreier
      @spesiellegreier 8 років тому

      Me too! I really don't like them but I would love to see his take on them. If anyone could make a good case for them i think it's hbomb.

    • @TheBellman
      @TheBellman 8 років тому +12

      Honestly with Hbomb's sense of humour and sensibilities it would probably be just a slightly less uncomfortable but more British version of Mr Plinkett's prequel reviews.

    • @deadname1000
      @deadname1000 8 років тому +6

      Not to mention the kinda racist stereotypes characterized by Watto and Gungans. Wonder how he got around that one.

  • @batsman27
    @batsman27 6 років тому +221

    "Fallout 4 Remastered with a slightly prettier water edition" This guy predicted Fallout 76

    • @disastermidi1990
      @disastermidi1990 4 роки тому +6

      Nothing is Real nah that’s too much a compliment it’s Fallout 4: No story edition

  • @sethstewart9704
    @sethstewart9704 7 місяців тому +9

    Friendly reminder that this video is 7 years old. Friendly reminder that this video came out before Starfield and Fallout 76. Friendly reminder that Bethesda will never change.
    Friendly reminder to give up hope for TESVI.

  • @llamamall3653
    @llamamall3653 8 років тому +491

    Jontron? Unethical?
    Y O U D O N ' T S A Y

    • @casersatz
      @casersatz 8 років тому +219

      What are you talking about? That man was interviewed on Breitbart, and you know that they give only the very best people a platform there.

    • @BenoHourglass
      @BenoHourglass 8 років тому +72

      +casersatz
      Wait, really? Holy crap.

    • @casersatz
      @casersatz 8 років тому +117

      BenoHourglass Ironically, the title of the piece was a quote from him: "I Don’t Think People Will Trust’ the Media Anymore". lol

    • @Lurdiak
      @Lurdiak 8 років тому +122

      And then when someone pointed out maybe that wasn't a pro move he had himself a little baby cry about how everyone thinks he's the worst person in the world for giving an interview.

    • @mcfeelyat
      @mcfeelyat 8 років тому +58

      He really is kind of a turd.

  • @kitredKitredson
    @kitredKitredson 8 років тому +213

    Can you do a video where you explain why you like the _Star Wars_ prequels, please? I even italicised the series title in this comment because I am keen to see that.

    • @reckonerwheel5336
      @reckonerwheel5336 8 років тому +28

      I gave you a thumbs up partly for the request, but mostly for the italicizing.

    • @kitredKitredson
      @kitredKitredson 8 років тому +12

      Thanks, guy(s) - if we can get this comment thumbs'd-upped to _one hundred_ thumbs-ups, I might even *embolden* (which should be the verb for that) some of my next comment.

    • @38procentkrytyk
      @38procentkrytyk 8 років тому +4

      Can I explain why I like the prequels meanwhile?

    • @kitredKitredson
      @kitredKitredson 8 років тому +4

      Yes: please do; it's always nice to hear opinions on art.

    • @38procentkrytyk
      @38procentkrytyk 8 років тому +10

      kitredKitredson So lets start from the begining.
      Episode 1
      I was seven years old in 1999 so it was obvious I would like kid friendly film. I was suprised how different movie it was from the originals. From the first moment there was much more melancholy and then... lightsabers... it's star wars!!! But years later the first scene makes me wonder. How would survive such warrior monks in huge civilisation? Seeing them as major players in galactic diplomacy is something fresh. But now the reaction from trade federation. Far more interesting. They are scared!!! People we used to know as merciful are seen as scary. There is tons of forshadowing here. It shows that Jedi without the evil on contrast are seen as powerful mindbenders and tough opponents. No wonder trade federation is scared. They think republic has send someone to crush their minds or murder them. Not very jedi way huh? Another fun fact. Battle droids are seen with much more respect here than Stormtroopers in the future (especially Rogue One). They make their job done without much problem... Unless this problem are jedi but this is is how it was showed awesomeness of trained body and mind. Here's the something I would like to change. I wish Padme Amidala was main hero just to make whole movie her story arc of the guilt which supports her actions in future films. She's belived to be guilty of starting war with Trade Federation so seeing young girl feeling terrible for fate of other citizens of Naboo is heartwarming but later when we know that she belives she is responsible for all those bad things that happend here. Also interesting fact young Anakin is far better written than his son Luke when he was farmer on Tatooine. Anakin is a dreamer, he works hard and looks forward to better future in the world which seems forgotten by "good guys". He's the only person who makes fantasy speeches in this movie. All Jedi are staying hard on the ground with Qui-Gon being master negotiator and Obi-Wan being just a student who looks at thing in very stricked way. There are many YT videos which can explain why anakin should be trained by Qui-Gon but I'm gonna say this; if Qui-Gon has seen Anakin having trouble with his emotions because of other gender... I could imagine him taking Anakin on the mission to strip bar :D. So yes. Anakin. Person who turned Jedi into fantasy warriors who always shows up to save the day. Just like many of us imagined Jedi... however reality is harsh. Jedi Council avoids thinking in the same way. Soon they turned wonderus boy Anakin to another of their kind... and the whole trilogy tells the story of sturggle if anything Jedi did was really good.
      End of chapter one.

  • @kaan-kaant
    @kaan-kaant 6 років тому +44

    He tried to warn them.

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 5 років тому +6

      But they didn't listen

  • @chiefmaggot360
    @chiefmaggot360 8 років тому +32

    anyone else fucking love this channel?
    he is one of the most insightful and critical UA-camrs currently active and to top it off, you're honest.
    keep up the good work.

    • @lightningbolt3585
      @lightningbolt3585 7 років тому +3

      ChiefMaggot nah dude

    • @runningcommentary2125
      @runningcommentary2125 7 років тому +1

      I think his arguments are consistently good and his humour is on point, but he can come across as quite condescending at times and I personally think he holds most things to a very high standard. Most forms of entertainment have deep flaws. This doesn't necessarily make them worthless. I don't think he believes that either, but at times that is the impression I get.

  • @CoopBosses
    @CoopBosses 7 років тому +479

    Make a Fallout 4 Is Garbage, And Here's Why
    video, please. I need this video

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 7 років тому +3

      Welp

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 7 років тому +3

      Guessing yo saw it

    • @yipperdeyip
      @yipperdeyip 6 років тому +2

      Oh what have you done hahahah!
      Though it is WELL deserved! Fucking Bathesda n

    • @mirrepoix
      @mirrepoix 6 років тому +8

      are yall implying he made a video about fallout 4? or that he's made indication that he's definitely not going to? bc i haven't seen anything either way

    • @lewendigogo2602
      @lewendigogo2602 6 років тому +22

      To be honest...there aren't any core points he made towards FO3 that can't be applied to FO4. Not saying I don't want to see him tear FO4 apart, but at least for the time being we can just....pretend...

  • @Known_Liar
    @Known_Liar 9 місяців тому +10

    No one listened to hbomberguy, and we got Starfield.

  • @Wigggy
    @Wigggy 8 років тому +299

    I think it's time to address the elephant in the room Hbomberguy. We're going to need another hour long video on why THE HELL YOU LIKE THE STAR WARS PREQUELS !?

    • @en0rag
      @en0rag 8 років тому +83

      The basic premise of a peaceful, democratic, liberal civilisation falling into a fascist state due partly to the arrogant, elitist and ignorant bureaucracy draws some interesting parallels. Just a pity the films are terribly made.

    • @38procentkrytyk
      @38procentkrytyk 7 років тому +3

      Oh man... Star Wars prequels is much more dangerous topic than PC culture and 2016 in general... I don't call prequels good movies (all 4 of them) but there are things which I enjoy. It is hard to blame movie for raping someone imagination like some people does. It's kinda wierd that people love to blame wrong things... like Mass Effect 3 ending to the game which was mostly bad shooter.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 років тому +7

      I don't get why people dickride The Force Awakens so hard, it was basically just a rehash of A New Hope, just with better special effects and worse writing.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 років тому

      So an appreciation for fan wank over quality which stands for itself, got it.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 років тому

      Nope, I think you just don't understand the concept of fan wank and independent quality.

  • @GreatGodSajuuk
    @GreatGodSajuuk 6 років тому +52

    Just freaking pirate it to demo it. If it's actually good and worth your money THEN buy it.
    Lots of people freak the hell out at the mere mention of piracy but pirated content is probably how the majority of the world experiences content, because the majority of the world does not have enough money to be willing to spend it on things that they might end up not liking.

    • @hygiei
      @hygiei 5 років тому +10

      i freak out at the mention of piracy because im really bad at it and my last computer died from tor

  • @CalsGirl97
    @CalsGirl97 6 років тому +89

    Voting with your wallet is a great way to tell these developers who keep releasing the same bull how you feel. They dont care about your words, they care about how much money they get.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 3 роки тому +7

      The problem with "voting with your wallet" is that companies can't ask *why* you choose not to buy their product. They may assume RPGs just aren't popular anymore, or that political themes are a turn off for gamers, or that single player games are dead and everyone wants Fortnite, or that the market is tanking and people don't have money to spend on video games on the whole. Not buying a video game teaches the company nothing they can use to improve their practices.

    • @zephyr6927
      @zephyr6927 2 роки тому +1

      @@LadyDoomsinger I mean, I find the video a bit too overly optimistic, and there are fundamental problems with "voting with your wallet", but wouldn't everyone being a critic, and voicing why they're not buying these games prevent this?

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 2 роки тому +1

      @@zephyr6927 Only if you assume game companies are actually in touch with/listens to/cares about their player base.

    • @zephyr6927
      @zephyr6927 2 роки тому +1

      @@LadyDoomsinger Yeah they would be? Companies put making money first, so why wouldn't they find out why they're losing money?

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 2 роки тому +1

      @@zephyr6927 Not when they can just up the marketing budget, implement gambling mechanics, or just run with IPs proven to make a ton of cash regardless of quality.

  • @themanwiththebabyhands4650
    @themanwiththebabyhands4650 8 років тому +249

    Bethesda is full of shit, I lost what little respect I had for them now.

    • @mustangcody
      @mustangcody 8 років тому +4

      The man with the baby hands but I guarantee you that you'll buy their next game

    • @liamj2363
      @liamj2363 8 років тому +35

      Nah, I never bought Fallout 4. Watching somebody else play it for a couple of hours was more than enough to see they've gone even further down the more action less RPG route.

    • @themanwiththebabyhands4650
      @themanwiththebabyhands4650 8 років тому +15

      Unless they develop something themselves that isn't a bug filled mess that's greatest feature is how much pointless side shit there is to do, I don't think I will.

    • @itsallfunky4591
      @itsallfunky4591 8 років тому +5

      Heck, even those things that they don't develop are bug filled because Zenimax fucks over the small dev teams and buys them afterwards.
      It happened before and it almost happened to Obsidian, that's why they had to crowd found for their next game.

    • @Z50nemesis
      @Z50nemesis 8 років тому

      After what they did to obsidian i don't why people would like them , i know it was their parent company but still

  • @oldstoffire
    @oldstoffire 8 років тому +57

    Probably the wrong video to make this comment on, but IMO there's a gap between "fun" and "good" in context of video games(or anything now that I think about it). Using Skyrim's broken as shit stealth skill to sneak around and pick people off one by one is extremely "fun", but I think it's garbage game design. In contrast, your Bloodborne video mentions that a lot of people didn't have fun with the souls games, despite them being good games. Obviously the best games will be widely praised as "fun" and "good", but companies like Bethesda will continue to be popular and successful due to their cocktease design philosophy of "lets make a game that's like 8 small changes away from being fucking amazing". Honestly though, I don't think any of what I just said matters in the slightest, since we don't have unified terms for talking about games, so "fun" might be a criteria for what some people consider to be "good" and vice versa.

  • @S3raphicReaper
    @S3raphicReaper 6 років тому +25

    The amusement in watching this in 2018 with the fallout 76 launch reviews and criticisms.

  • @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
    @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 8 років тому +454

    Ethics in game journalism

    • @mykneecapshurt
      @mykneecapshurt 8 років тому +62

      Dnt Wry ethics in game capitalism

    • @ldskjfhslkjdhflkjdhf
      @ldskjfhslkjdhflkjdhf 8 років тому +81

      Ethics in late-capitalist media production

    • @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
      @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 8 років тому +59

      dan _ No ethical consumption under capitalism.

    • @DestroyedArkana
      @DestroyedArkana 8 років тому +21

      This is exactly what Gamergate was about as well. People giving favours to others as a "gift" and expecting a favorable return. It can be between indie devs and "journalists" and between huge AAA companies and youtube creators. It's the same principle of conflicts of interest.

    • @raphaelkhan1668
      @raphaelkhan1668 8 років тому +143

      Except this time, we're not going to pull up bullshit lies and slander about some random woman. There was zero evidence she got anything in return after dating a games journalist, her game wasn't reviewed or promoted by him or anyone from Kotaku. It was bullshit, malicious slander against women and feminists in specific and you know it.

  • @RustyShackleford1066
    @RustyShackleford1066 8 років тому +407

    Ethical consumption won't save capitalism from its short comings.
    This goes for important shit like child and slave labor and petty stuff like video games.

    • @TheArtkaw
      @TheArtkaw 8 років тому +1

      Meep-Meh H&M and Primark are great because they're really cheap.

    • @ldh3306
      @ldh3306 8 років тому +37

      or we could not save capitalism at all. lets face it, capitalism is dying and we should help push it over the edge.

    • @TheArtkaw
      @TheArtkaw 8 років тому +20

      And replace it with what? Everyone rants about wanting change, but they also want cheap goods.

    • @ldh3306
      @ldh3306 8 років тому +35

      Use the model of a Social Economy, As practised in Rojava, as well as elements of central planning to allocate resources to those who need them most, rather than a "free market" where bread rots and people starve.

    • @JammyD2579
      @JammyD2579 8 років тому +47

      If your response to "we don't know how to deal with child and slave labour", things that Western high street brands still indirectly use, is "but cheap goods", there's some serious moral problems you have there.

  • @sydroper4761
    @sydroper4761 11 місяців тому +16

    Starfield… Todd learned nothing.

  • @abzq5769
    @abzq5769 8 років тому +205

    just pirate Bethesda's (and other companies like them) games
    have your cake and eat it too
    use the saved money to buy indie games
    solved

    • @thepopeofgameing9503
      @thepopeofgameing9503 5 років тому +42

      Abzq Y O U W O U L D N ‘ T D O W N L O A D A H O U S E

    • @frechjo
      @frechjo 5 років тому +28

      @@thepopeofgameing9503
      W H O W O U L D N ' T D O W N L O A D A H O U S E

    • @thepopeofgameing9503
      @thepopeofgameing9503 5 років тому +9

      fede N O N C R I M I N A L S T H A T ‘ S W H O

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 5 років тому +3

      Abzq Let me propose a simple experiment: buy a cake, eat it, and see if it is still there.

    • @EveryTimeV2
      @EveryTimeV2 5 років тому +3

      Then become paranoid that people are following you for being a bad person and get into a fight trying to live with your shit life.

  • @FrankieSmileShow
    @FrankieSmileShow 8 років тому +12

    The indie games market on steam is a pretty spooky thing. If you want to see what a flooded market looks like, go on steamspy and look at a list of indie games, and their sales figures. Youll find a large number of really nice, well made games by tiny teams of passionate folks with less than a thousand sales after months and months of release.
    Making indie games nowadays is a big gamble, and the bigger the game, the bigger the gamble. Even if you do everything right, if you dont have an existing fanbase core to launch the word of mouth and excitement, there is a big risk your game goes unnoticed, and your months and months of work get you nothing more than a few weeks' worth of salary. To many smaller devs who want to remain independent, things like Patreon might become a necessary safety net they just cant go without.

  • @RozalynW
    @RozalynW 7 років тому +11

    for those of you who balked at that quick list of reviewers they are: MrBtongue, shaymay, waypoint, joseph Anderson, giant bomb, and, jimquisition.

  • @LucGendrot
    @LucGendrot 3 роки тому +10

    "This is going to be a long video"
    Oh you sweet summer child

  • @yangwenli6878
    @yangwenli6878 8 років тому +32

    This is how I spend New year's eve.
    And I don't regret a single second of it.

    • @CherryScent
      @CherryScent 8 років тому

      +Larvemannenz001 Golden One, is that you?

    • @Larvemannenz001
      @Larvemannenz001 8 років тому +2

      Graviton Forfeit Haha, come on. Golden One doesn't words like that. I'm the wordsmith!

  • @tapioorankiaalto2457
    @tapioorankiaalto2457 9 місяців тому +5

    Starfield is just proving Harris Bomberguy right all over again.

    • @sirhawke
      @sirhawke 8 місяців тому +1

      The fact I get so much hate for saying how disappointing Starfield is just shows just how well Bethesda have done at convincing people they put out great games.
      And I say this as someone who is STILL playing Fallout 4, though heavily modded.

  • @ellatgrasso2096
    @ellatgrasso2096 8 років тому +133

    so basically, dont buy EA games.

    • @Avrysatos
      @Avrysatos 8 років тому +9

      pretzelfrog it really isn't hard to wait a year or so for them to be 60% off or more. most ea games are the same as last year's with shinier paint.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 років тому

      pretzelfrog Except Mirror's Edge because we need more stuff like that. Pls I love this franchise.

    • @JohnDoe-ys1vb
      @JohnDoe-ys1vb 7 років тому +1

      no we need to force people to not buy EA games.

    • @subroy7123
      @subroy7123 6 років тому +3

      Or rather, become a billionaire and buy EA Games. And take a hammer and shatter it into the million good pieces it always needed to be.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 6 років тому +3

      I take it one step further and won't buy any game with microtransactions in it. This means every single EA game with Ultimate Team or anything like it. I really wanted to play EA UFC 3, but the presence of Ultimate Team meant I never bought it, and never will. Hell, I still haven't even bought Overwatch because of the loot boxes ("BUT IT'S JUST COSMETIC!" Don't care. Costumes are part of the reward loop. I'd rather just buy costumes I want like in Street Fighter instead of opening boxes and hoping I get the one I want.) I do play some f2p mobile games, but I don't feel as bad because I didn't spend $60 to start the game first.

  • @MrMalimer
    @MrMalimer 8 років тому +59

    Hey there. Not to be needy, but when you make a list of things (like reviewers you like) could you put them in the description, so we dont have to interurpt the video with pausing and finding a pen? That would help us to follow your serial recommendations more quickly and ultimately make them more effective.

    • @nothere5114
      @nothere5114 8 років тому +5

      +MrMalimer Yeah, that would be nice.

    • @RozalynW
      @RozalynW 7 років тому +5

      that quick list of reviewers they are: MrBtongue, shaymay, waypoint, joseph Anderson, giant bomb, and, jimquisition.

    • @doorcurtain8523
      @doorcurtain8523 7 років тому

      he means the website www.actionbutton.net, which has a lot of great reviews that differ a lot from other mainstream opinions. However, the site is currently down, and has been for a while due to unknown reasons, though it's most likely unintentional since the site founder Tim Rogers was surprised one day to find it down. He plans to fix and revive the website in a big way but right now his current life for the past few years (working on Videoball and being a video producer at Kotaku) has kept him too busy from doing so.
      You can still find all those great reviews if you use the Wayback Machine, however. I'd highly recommend doing so.

    • @macrux152__8
      @macrux152__8 7 років тому

      Personally loved Mrbtongue, and Joseph anderson(damn this guy and SOMA).

  • @Hyziant
    @Hyziant 5 місяців тому +3

    we have failed you 2017 hbomberguy- forgive us

  • @DoNotEvenAsk
    @DoNotEvenAsk 8 років тому +29

    Relying on gamers to make smart decisions is never going to work. These are the same people when discovering Konami's mistreatment of Kojima decided to make a big boycott of their products... except for Phantom Pain because dat shit look tight yo.

  • @kenshin4113
    @kenshin4113 4 роки тому +90

    Broke:”Socialists don’t understand economics”
    Woke:”Gamers don’t understand economics”

  • @CaseyKonstanz
    @CaseyKonstanz 11 місяців тому +4

    The into is hilarious now.
    "Kind of a long thing... Kind of a slog...hard to do long form without taking years"

  • @The_Kenster
    @The_Kenster 2 роки тому +12

    for the queen

  • @pussylord1095
    @pussylord1095 8 років тому +21

    1:32 I thought you were getting a strap on.
    I wouldn't put it past you

  • @TheSelbah
    @TheSelbah 7 років тому +6

    "please don't unpack that right now"
    I love your stuff.
    Really glad I found a good comrade to follow. :)

  • @gustavojohannessautter9484
    @gustavojohannessautter9484 8 років тому +493

    >supporting the monarchy
    you've betrayed me hbomberguy

    • @creamithmanning2632
      @creamithmanning2632 8 років тому +15

      Georgy Zhukov
      I'd still bone you, Georgy. You're my favorite next to Sviridov.

    • @vallraffs
      @vallraffs 8 років тому +83

      You don't have to support the monarchy to hope that Elizabeth doesn't die. Just like you don't have to oppose the presidency to hope that Donald does die.

    • @Jpg700
      @Jpg700 8 років тому +44

      Are you trying to get President Pence? Because that's how you get President Pence.

    • @gustavojohannessautter9484
      @gustavojohannessautter9484 8 років тому +1

      Valter Östberg I was mostly talking about the part of "for the queen" tbh

    • @Potpan0
      @Potpan0 8 років тому +3

      hbomberguy's 2counterrevolutionary4me

  • @laurenbastin8849
    @laurenbastin8849 2 роки тому +11

    would you look at that, the Queen waited a whole 5 years just to keep that joke funny

    • @ThatImmo
      @ThatImmo 2 роки тому +1

      Came here to say something similar.

  • @kieranwestphal
    @kieranwestphal 4 роки тому +3

    our harris bomb man went from getting turned down by Tim to being a recommended channel on the Action Button UA-cam page and a voiceover cameo in the Doom review, what a comeback story

  • @EldritchAugur
    @EldritchAugur 8 років тому +9

    I think somebody needs to put together a list of all of the "Bethesda approved critics" so that we can collectively decide to ignore them. If I was a youtuber and was given a Bethesda game early I would be incredibly ashamed of myself after learning this.

  • @Elmo9001
    @Elmo9001 8 років тому +53

    And as it always seems to be, the SJW Spenglers are the ones actually concerned about ethics in video game journalism, not just how big some virtual tiddies are.
    I like how while criticizing the practise of big companies only letting big-name fans on UA-cam who will only say nice things play their games, you don't yell at the UA-camrs themselves who are probably just legitimately excited to be playing a game they like early.
    And also in the interest of promoting Indie devs, Shrouded in Sanity is a really good game I played this year. It's one of those 'It's like Dark Souls but-' games but with lots of weird unexplained horror and clear influence from Silent Hill, the first Resident Evil, and Eternal Darkness. It has an extremely challenging difficulty curve but the gameplay is rewarding and it's on sale for £2.79 right now.

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 6 років тому +2

      Okay, I just have to ask...what IS a Spengler? Is it related to Egon (who was my second favorite Ghostbuster behind Ray)? What does it mean?

  • @MissSam
    @MissSam 6 років тому +34

    The man, the legend, the prophet

  • @Spallboy
    @Spallboy 2 роки тому +4

    We've had MORE versions of Skyrim since this video came out.

  • @sammyauroraloves
    @sammyauroraloves 3 роки тому +6

    The way he's sitting at 0:40 we should've known he was bisexual

  • @jaraket
    @jaraket Рік тому +4

    The problem is less that “everyone’s a critic”, than that too few people are.

  • @Jayyemi
    @Jayyemi 2 роки тому +10

    0:15 Bad news lad

  • @Exarian
    @Exarian 8 років тому +12

    MY list entry number 1: Class War Now.

  • @anonymous5405
    @anonymous5405 Місяць тому +1

    I was always shocked that Bethesda “made” the recent doom games. I didn’t know they were just publishing and didn’t develop it themselves. That makes sooooo much more sense

  • @oxACEo
    @oxACEo 6 років тому +20

    im watching this years later, obviously. ive been binge watching your content and loving it. that being said, i find it funny how absolutely correct your points are. with the release of fallout 76 coming out, and now watching your video, and its laughable seeing the obviously targeted press releases bethesda has concentrated on since its announcement. though its still rampant. it is nice seeing the backlash that has been coming from the community. the blatant extreme capitalism within the industry is as bad as ever, but it is nice to see the outrage from the community. its only unfortunate that people, if they want to play these games, still have to (in a sense) support the company by buying the games.

  • @guitarsimon1
    @guitarsimon1 2 роки тому +5

    If anyone is reading this in the future PLEASE NEVER PRE-ORDER ANY GAMES, EVER, YOU’RE DISINCENTIVISING PUBLISHERS RELEASING A GOOD/FINISHED GAME! YOU CAN WAIT A FEW MORE WEEKS TO PLAY A GAME, PLUS IT WILL BE CHEAPER AND HOPEFULLY PATCHED! Phew, I do miss the days of it being a multi-million dollar logistical nightmare to update a game, sure helped the publishers stay honest with making sure their bugs were squished before release.

  • @isakartang601
    @isakartang601 2 роки тому +2

    It’s interesting watching this nearly 6 years after you made it. Perfect video.

  • @RicochetSaw
    @RicochetSaw 11 місяців тому +5

    This certainly is a strange video to be watching right now

  • @heavenly2k
    @heavenly2k 11 місяців тому +8

    Still relevant, even more so today.

  • @culwin
    @culwin 8 місяців тому +2

    The best way to solve the problem: Stop buying games day 1.
    It's OK to buy a game later. Like even day 5. Or day 9. Or even 2 years later, it's OK if you do.
    Let the people who like wasting their money on bad games continue to do so. You can't stop them anyhow. And then you have plenty of time to find out if the game is good or not, from critics and users alike. Even if it's good, you might even get a discount, or avoid problems (like bugs that get fixed), by getting it later. Problem solved.
    Maybe goes for lots of other products, too.

  • @ValaAssistant
    @ValaAssistant 5 років тому +27

    before i watch, heres my idea of how to save the games industry
    SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION! social revolution! long live the anarcho-communist revolution! viva!

    • @thepoofster2251
      @thepoofster2251 4 роки тому +1

      Bahahahahaha moron

    • @ValaAssistant
      @ValaAssistant 4 роки тому +2

      @@thepoofster2251 proof that anti-communists have no good arguments rather than insults

    • @thepoofster2251
      @thepoofster2251 4 роки тому +1

      @@ValaAssistant I def dont agree with your point of view if you think someone calling you a moron is somehow a failure to debunk your entire worldview...
      I'm laughing because video game critique wasn't political that long ago and now its invaded with people calling each other comrade. I'm not debunking you, just suprised your so wrapped up in a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with the video.
      Hope the whole revolution thing goes well I guess, you god damn loon

    • @jmm394
      @jmm394 4 роки тому

      Hahahahahaha...communism

    • @bugdracula1662
      @bugdracula1662 3 роки тому

      @@thepoofster2251 everything is political, always.

  • @snark567
    @snark567 8 років тому +5

    16:56
    2012- Shit like this won't fly anymore!
    2013- Shit like this won't fly anymore!
    2014- Shit like this won't fly anymore!
    2015- Shit like this won't fly anymore!
    2016- Shit like this won't fly anymore!
    2017- Shit like thi-- ah fuck it.

  • @acathosh
    @acathosh Рік тому +2

    0:15 my favourite part watching this in 2022. She held on for quite a while though

  • @sathrielsatanson666
    @sathrielsatanson666 7 років тому +5

    Thank you, you have touched upon the aspect pundits so often neglect when defining problems with games industry: consumers. Publishers/developers get away with underhanded practices because people with their wallets are saying: it's ok.

  • @Darkphantaria
    @Darkphantaria 8 років тому +17

    Thanks to you and Jim Sterling for convincing me to buy Doom. It's fucking amazing.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 6 років тому

      it is fucking great. a true tour de force return to form hi octane adrenaline thrill ride. for real.

    • @deathbyreindeer4174
      @deathbyreindeer4174 6 років тому

      Didnt u miss the points of this video then?

  • @molotawv
    @molotawv 3 роки тому +7

    this video aged like a fine wine in the wake of cyberpunk 2077

  • @BlackburnBigdragon
    @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому +13

    I haven't purchased a game from a major developer in ages. All my games are from indy developers. My current favorites are "The Forest", and "Sir You are Being Hunted" (I REALLY recommend those games. Check them out!) and "Minecraft" is something that's been on my computer since it's early beta days and I've never gotten bored of it and still play it regularly with my friends and family.

    • @TheVideoIsLongEnough
      @TheVideoIsLongEnough 8 років тому

      BlackburnBigdragon You should check out Terraria if you havent heard of it. Its a wonderful game thats only 10 dollars!

    • @BlackburnBigdragon
      @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому

      I have Terraria. I actually don't really enjoy it. I think it's the fact that it feels kind of like a "side scrolling platformer" and I don't really enjoy side scrolling platformers. I know it's a sandbox game, but I've tried and I just can't get into it. The mechanics of it aren't something I enjoy.

    • @TheVideoIsLongEnough
      @TheVideoIsLongEnough 8 років тому

      BlackburnBigdragon ah, well to each his own. Have you tried Subnautica? Its pretty awesome too.

    • @TheBornageFobbie
      @TheBornageFobbie 8 років тому

      Literally no one plays Sir, you are Being Hunted and it's one of those games that I just turn and play when I want to do something I know I'll enjoy.

    • @BlackburnBigdragon
      @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому

      I play "Sir" quite often and I always customize the hell out of the terrain and the bots because that makes for a lot of fun and interesting features. It's one of those games that I just keep coming back to that will probably never leave my hard drive. It's one of those games that I feel gets everything right that I want in a game. I think that this game is a gem that not enough people are aware of.

  • @MegaJobst
    @MegaJobst 7 років тому +4

    "If more of us are less like this because we think about this stuff and try and communicate about it with each other effectively. Everything can and will get better." This just the second of your videos I've seen so far but I think I might have just fallen in love.

  • @VirtualGobllim47
    @VirtualGobllim47 11 місяців тому +3

    Things you should also for game improvement:
    - Support unionization of game devs related workers.
    - demand regulation of consumer support for digital midia/ games
    -also against crunch.
    Veganism shows that no amount of individual responsibility is capable of changing a systemic problem, it's just so you feel okay

  • @samuentaga
    @samuentaga 8 років тому +230

    I love how us SJW's do a better job pointing out the bad business practices of the games industry than FUCKING GAMERGATE!

    • @tinnitusthenight5545
      @tinnitusthenight5545 8 років тому +71

      We have to do everything around here

    • @tz64nk41
      @tz64nk41 8 років тому +71

      Almost as if it had nothing to do with ethics at all
      Funny that

    • @samuentaga
      @samuentaga 8 років тому +67

      tz64nk41 To Gamergaters, "ethics" means "Keep feminists away from my vidya games!!!!!"

    • @Tavo_show
      @Tavo_show 8 років тому +38

      and not only feminist but also people with other cultures or tones of skin. i always like to think that gamersgaters were just a lousy minority but when the champion of 4chan is the next president, well... i wish i have something constructive to say, but i don't u.u

    • @deadringer6759
      @deadringer6759 8 років тому +5

      Got any evidence of hbomberguy being an SJW besides retards in the comment section calling him one and you being one and wanting some credit by association?

  • @PARAN0IDxGERBIL
    @PARAN0IDxGERBIL 8 років тому +4

    That plug for Joseph Anderson! His video on The Witness was a masterpiece

  • @mothheart9216
    @mothheart9216 11 місяців тому +4

    A slog? At 23 minutes? Hbomb, if only he coudl see his future

  • @tommcdonald4014
    @tommcdonald4014 8 років тому +10

    "Harris Bomberguy"? Historical reference, maybe?

    • @mykneecapshurt
      @mykneecapshurt 8 років тому

      Tom McDonald i think his first name is actually Harris. i'd be interested in what historical moment he could be referencing though :)

    • @tommcdonald4014
      @tommcdonald4014 8 років тому +10

      dan _ In WWII, the head of British Bomber Command, in charge of the bombing campaign over Europe, was Sir Arthur Harris. He was a big proponent of all-out bombing of Germany, including civilian targets--or at least with no regard for civilian casualties. He was given the nickname of Bomber Harris. Bomber Harris/Harris Bomber. :-) But Hbomberguy's real first name may well be Harris.

    • @mykneecapshurt
      @mykneecapshurt 8 років тому

      Tom McDonald ahh, that'd be very clever.

    • @Dubaikiwi
      @Dubaikiwi 8 років тому +2

      Not really. All it will result in is some nasty Ad Homeniem quip in the upcoming Sargon video.
      Lol jks, hes not brave enough after the logical trashing he got

    • @lightningbolt3585
      @lightningbolt3585 7 років тому

      LostStudent muh ad hominem

  • @jbkjbk1999
    @jbkjbk1999 7 років тому +11

    There's only one solution to this problem:
    *S M A S H C A P I T A L I S M*

    • @bugdracula1662
      @bugdracula1662 3 роки тому

      HELICOPTER MICRSOFT’S BASE TO *SIBERIA*

  • @stuartwill9153
    @stuartwill9153 7 років тому +1

    Dude, the more I watch your videos the more hooked on your channel I get. You have a great perspective on things, please don't stop making this great content!

  • @BoggiFroggy
    @BoggiFroggy 8 років тому +78

    But seriously, do you really like the Star Wars Prequels? I won't judge.

    • @Lurdiak
      @Lurdiak 8 років тому +54

      He does, I've seen him post about it on a movie forum.
      It's so embarrassing.

    • @mixmastermind
      @mixmastermind 8 років тому +30

      He likes the prequels, he hates Evangelion.
      You make it hard for me to love you, Harris Bomberguy.

    • @BoggiFroggy
      @BoggiFroggy 8 років тому +4

      It's sad. If George Lucas made the Prequels right they would have far surpassed the Originals. Sadly he didn't.

    • @BoggiFroggy
      @BoggiFroggy 8 років тому +4

      No I meant Lucas writing a better script too so we could tell Anakin's and Palpatine's Arcs better.

    • @malm5737
      @malm5737 8 років тому +1

      If I'm remembering right he made the prequels after his divorce and I remember in interviews and stuff his wife would call him out on the weird stuff he would try to do. Like maybe not have almost every scene filmed on a green screen.