I'm a haole guy, moved to Hawaii in 1991 for a tenure track job at UH-Hilo. Moved with my male partner, and never had a problem. Moved to O'ahu for a promotion in the community college system. I learned Hawaiian and was very proficient/near fluent in it. Listen and learn. Anyone moving to Hawaii needs to talk less, and listen more. Haole is not a derogatory term - I was one of two white males in a workgroup of 32 on the Big Island, and the only haole guy in a workgroup of 28 in Honolulu. No problems. I used to boogie-board at dawn before I went to work, and the dawn patrol folks were kind. All that said, Hawaii is not for everyone. It is far. Misunderstandings are often corrected with the giving of backyard fruit and baked goods. You are "so-Haole" "so Haole." I've heard from many locals "Don't be so Pake!" (Meaning thrifty/cheap)
Haole is absolutely offensive. Just because they may use it in a friendly manner with you, similar to saying n*gga, does not mean it is not derogatory. There are plenty of words which were not created as a slur but became adopted as a slur, especially in specific contexts, and are now racist to say.
What ever you do not defund the police it’s a shame what’s going on the mainland. Crime is getting bad in major cities. This is not good for our society.
@@cigarillo22 locals very much own the land. Just because a group comes and over powers means otherwise pfff. Go to town and say that. See how far you get. Respect is always given before earned. Not both ways. I wish you would rant like you do in the heart of Hawaii. Away from towns. Where your actions will tell how you get out. 🤣😂
i lived 6yrs in Waianae, Oahu, area with the highest concentration of hawaiians pacific islanders, respect, eye contact, live peacefully & generously, leave your south philly or new york swag back on the mainland!! it was the best times of my life! Daily rode Da Bus, hospitality, food- amazing!! i was a uncle to all. 🤙🤙
My take on the whole Haole behavior thing… I think it all boils down to the historical pain of forced white assimilation, plantation owners and the locals high exposure to the rude entitled tourists. These jerk people on both sides obviously don’t represent the norm but I think in any tourist town, the local population has a love/hate relationship with those who visit. I have friends in beach towns, las vegas, high tourist areas, they all get tired and sick of tourists. In Hawaii’s case, most are coming from Japan or the mainland. Most jobs in Hawaii are in tourism and service industry. Lets think for a moment about the stress the locals go through with bride zillas, entitled rude people who treat them like dirt, drunk college kids defacing property, the list goes on. Since we have a white majority on the mainland, the probability of a local running into a mean white person is higher than others. I think that the role of server and customer can ruin the experience between cultures due to a high case of painful interactions. Most locals are not given a fair chance to interact with white people in casual settings so I think the opportunity to cultivate genuine relationships are low. The best way for us to remove stereotypes is building this rapport by quality friend making but since its mostly transactional its superficial. After a few bad apples, confirmation bias sets in and makes it likely for the locals to assume “that Haole behavior!” - which I think can be summarized as entitled, selfish, opportunistic, inconsiderate, greedy… by no means do I believe this is mainland or white culture, but I can see how this stereotype can be created. The history of white interaction with the locals on the islands hasn’t always been the greatest. I’m sure there are plenty of good positive examples but the scale of damage up to date outweighs the good. From planation owners, billionaires kicking them off their lands, rude tourists, unfair occupation. Yes everyday white people have no responsibility, ability to stop this or prevent it and shouldn’t experience the wrath of the locals but i think the pain is inherited generationally and is reinforced with the hurtful interactions with new visitors. Aside from locals, the natives are another story. Imagine if you were poor on your ancestral lands and you see one race coming in and constantly exploiting it. I think it would be difficult not to have resentment. I don’t think its right to hold anger and humans should all strive to elevate beyond this thinking but I can completely understand where this comes from. I think it would be different if we saw rich and powerful rude land owning africans, asians, hispanics on the islands but the sad reality is, the vast majority of this bunch has been represented by white mainlanders. The main take away here is Hawaii is a special case because although its America, lots of locals feel its occupied land, the rich white foreigners vs struggling locals and it irks of old colonialism. The sad consequence would be the innocent people receiving the pent up misdirected anger. From the haole day at school. Pure racism. Hatred. I don’t agree with this sentiment some people have, but I can see why this resentment bleeds within the local population. Although Im no local, born and raised in LA, my family are locals for generations. Second home on maui. I have a diff experience from my white buddies cause I blend in being Japanese. Hawaii is the only place outside of our asian enclaves in the west coast where I feel completely accepted and at home. My advice to white folks moving, this will probably be the only state that you will understand what it’s like to be a minority and there will be a culture shock if not prepared. Open mindedness, empathy, listening and positive thinking will help you tremendously. Catch yourself if you ever think “back home we did it like this…” … use the when in rome approach. Just like us west coasters have to learn to drive assertively in the east coast. Everyone from the mainland learns to slow down in Hawaii. I hope you never have to go through the discrimination but have a healthy learning experience. There is a place on the mainland where I felt the feeling of Aloha and it was southern hospitality.
For the love of God, 1893 was 8 generations ago. 95% voted to become a state in 1959. Every country, every people, have been conquered, reconquered, occupied, reoccupied. How far do you want to go back? It is 2020! Unless I lived it, or anyone else did, then spare me the victimization and excuses. Be accountable for your attitude and actions. "Haole behavior" is a joke. Most (locals) have never been off the island to experience the WORLD. Yes, there is a whole WORLD out there. There are nice people and not so nice people. How would the majority of the "born and raised" in Hawaii know if all they know is Hawaii? "Respect" is the most overused word on the islands. SMH.
I love Hawaii with all my heart. Came here as a military brat when I was 5 now I am in my 60s. I know we associate the word "Haole" with being white which isn't the case. I guess I don't understand that when tourist come here from the mainland and that they always assume your white. I have not been to the mainland in a long time but, I am sure tourist are also blacks, latino, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Jewish and on and on. Please STOP calling ALL tourist WHITE, because they are not. Just like HAOLE does not mean "white" and neither does the word "tourist". I hope you understand you are beginning to sound like you are stereotyping.
I was stationed in Hawaii for 8 years loved the islands and the people, however I couldn't see living there now without a lot of cash. I saw the growth of the homeless population on my last visit. It's pretty sad.
That's why the locals want these whites out. They move some place then buy it and next you know you're homeless on your own land. Ask the Native Americans
I visited as a tourist several years ago. We had one bad experience but that was enough to make me re-frame my thinking of Hawaii. I think it was on Kauai, possibly Maui. Driving on a tight road with a one-lane bridge. We were there first crossing it while a truck with a bunch of young men in the back proceeded to cross as well from the other side. They wouldn't back up and yelled at us. I backed up and let them go first even tho we were there first. It was just me and my mother in the car. As they passed by the driver, a middle-aged man gave me a hard glare and the men were saying "Go back, Haole". It was menacing and threatening. Btw, I'm Asian, not white. No respect for other Asians or my elderly Asian mother.
1893 was 8 generations ago. 95% voted to become a state in 1959. Every country, every people, have been conquered, reconquered, occupied, reoccupied. How far do you want to go back? It is 2020! Unless I lived it, or anyone else did, then spare me the victimization and excuses. Be accountable for your attitude and actions. "Haole behavior" is a joke. Most (locals) have never been off the island to experience the WORLD. Yes, there is a whole WORLD out there. There are nice people and not so nice people. How would the majority of the "born and raised" in Hawaii know if all they know is Hawaii? "Respect" is the most overused word on the islands. I live on Kauai. The hate is real, taught in schools, and continues to be inculcated to the children. Meanwhile, most "locals" have never been off the island. Would do a lot to open their eyes.
@@Eaglejake Talk about missing the point. Why would you think Hawaiians want to go experience the world when their first priority is gaining their lands back that were stolen? Your priorities is haywired. "Hey, you got your land stolen, but go out there and experience the world. Don't worry about your lands." Everyone wants to come to Hawaii and you're telling them to go out of Hawaii? Please go buy a one-way ticket now if you're here.
@@alelokaoseumu Professor, you missed the point. It is 2022. Learn from the past, don't relive it. No one alive today was impacted by whatever events you "feel" happened. The past, ....some 8 generations ago, does not "entitle" anyone to anything.....or justify actions toward another race......that would be mixed Asians obvious hatred towards tourists and non Asians on Kauai. Hawaii, as a state in the USA, is much better off today, then it would be on its own, or a territory of Russia or China. Spare me.... If Hawaii was not a state in the USA, then no one would be coming here. Hawaii would be like Guam, Puerto Rico, and many other isolated islands around the world. Being well rounded and tolerant towards people can be done by being around people of different cultures, different races, religions, etc. Hawaii is not some holy land....people (born and raised) need to get off this island and experience the world and different people vice all this BS of stolen land and being oppressed. You don't know how good you have it. Stop the madness.
@@Eaglejake you talk about Russia or China owning Hawaii as if the US does not. A colonizer is a colonizer. "Oppressed" lol, a little Hawaiian child can pick you up with one hand and ragdoll you back where you came from. Demanding respect to the land and culture when visiting is not being "oppressed." You dont do the oppressing, we do, and we love it
@@alelokaoseumu Yep, my point. See if you can visit another country in your lifetime. It would do you good. Like your last sentence....Hawaii education has inculcated you well.
I wasn't born and raised in Hawaii, but my father was, my grandfather, my great grandmother, and before that. I totally get how locals would feel a lot of anger towards "haoles." It is a cultural wound that stems from the illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom by wealthy "white" businessmen and the influence of the entitled missionary mentality. Years when the culture and language and spiritual beliefs were repressed. I have had to work hard at healing my own wounds passed on by my father. I think it is horrible how expensive it is for the locals, and how many are forced to leave in order to survive. With that said, each time we've gone to Kauai to visit, it has been a wonderful visit, but mostly because I think my spouse and I do our very best to show respect to the locals, and when there, I spend time at beaches picking up trash that washes in from the sea. It won't be long, is my guess, where the bulk of native Hawaiians won't be able to afford to stay, and that to me, would be tragic. I would love to see land preservation and cultural preservation and a Hawaiian homeland program that wasn't so crazy in terms of servicing those with Hawaiian roots, below the 50% requirement. The "haoles" and American government owe the native Hawaiians big time. There hasn't been a reparation of harm. There was an apology, but an apology just isn't good enough. My two cents.
@@nb6743 Nope, wouldn't happen because the US is part of the UN so they have a responsibility to the illegal occupation and overthrow of a different government. Plus, we have trillions of dollars so PLEASE leave. But before you go, please explain why you want Hawaii so bad in the first place. Bitter to leave? Oh, it's because poor, poor America would be NOTHING without Hawaii, the greatest trading route in the WORLD! Bye. Oh and good luck on your way out when we cut a deal with China who you own Trillions to. LOL.
@@nb6743 Hawaii would thrive like New Zealand if it became an independent country. I don't see China or Japan taking over New Zealand... yet Hawaii is taken over by America. Trading one colonizer for the other is not really a choice ya nimwit.
@@nb6743 you dont think non white people are capable of running a successful country? New Zealand cannot without a British and Hawaiians without the Americans? lol this fairytale your anglo saxon ancestors fed you is just that.
@@nb6743 I shouldn't fault you, Americans are ridiculed throughout the world for being simpletons. There was a point where NZ was not a British colony. Britain is in Europe, not in Polynesia. And in modern times, NZ is an independent country. Independent means self-governing. The British Empire in your dated history book, if you've read one before, no longer exists.
@@nb6743 the natives in NZ are recognized specially by government policies and their language is taught in schools. There's even a Maori King that is recognized by the government. So yeah, Americans aren't known to be the brightest, why expect you to make an case that's not completely half-baked. Btw, even if NZ treated the Maori badly, that's not an excuse for American colonialism. Please think with your brain that God bestowed on you.
My wife and I moved to the Big Island 2 1/2 years ago. Have not seen any of this. Everyone goes out of their way to be nice to people. It is the most amazing place in the world. I can not imagine ever going back to the mainland.
My husband and I moved to the Big Island 8 years ago from California and have found nothing but aloha. We are both dark blonde hair 50 somthing years old, and never been called Hauli ( at least not that we have heard personally). Respect the land and the values of the People, be kind to others, leave your mainland mentality on the mainland and you will find much aloha here.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom There you go again, posting racist FALSEHOODS against "white people". The n-word derives from words going back to Latin, and even Proto-Indo-European, which just mean "black", the color, not a racist slur. Those ancient words have also led to the English word "night", referring to the time of darkness (blackness). Spanish "negro" basically means the color black, not a racist slur. Likewise, Niger and Nigerian are not slurs.
My life dream is to move to Hawaii. I have only been to Oahu and while there I purposely lived like a local. I loved it. I felt at home. Now the locals I spoke to ALL stated I shouldn’t move there because it’s so expensive to live there. Most locals were very bitter about having to work two or three jobs and most lived with family or roommates. I also occasionally came across some racism but I just took it all in stride. I know Hawai’i’s history and some cultures just don’t like white people. I was respectful and quiet with their views.
Well I mean how would you feel if Europeans came and took your land. Stopped you from surfing. Stopped you from doing everything your people did for thousands of years. I’m from the Caribbean so trust me I totally get my Pacific bredren an sistrens.
@@alejandrotobienne584 Nobody was alive for that. You also don't know the ancestry of a white individual. Their ancestors could've been polish, put through terrible concentration camps by Germans, but do you see them being unfair and racist to Germans? No, you don't. It's just plain out racism and being stupid by judging someone for something they didn't do.
@@cryppi1510 Actually, lots of people I know personally were alive for that. Many of us in Hawaii know people LIVING TODAY that have experienced the territory days. Please don't be ignorant. So many Americans think we are like the Black people and this happened to us hundreds of years ago. It did not. Know anyone from 1959? Yeah, that's what I thought.
I’ve lived there 10 years on Oahu. I’m very proud of that. Life changer. I studied Hawaiian language partially and took Hawaiian studies at Kapiolani CC and UH Manoa. I do believe if you act obnoxious and loud your putting yourself out there. This is a good video but continue to let the Aloha Spirit into your soul.
Like you three basically said, just be a good person when you're there and don't sink to the level of hateful people. It doesn't take much to treat Hawai'i with reverence and respect. Show everyone your intentions are honest and there should be no issues.
I have a Haole friend that grew up in Hawaii and went to school here. He was verbally abused here as a kid but thrived over it. He was respectful of the culture and won the hearts of the locals.
My girlfriend and I have been to Hawaii several times and the locals have always been wonderful! Have I seen some negative behavior? Of course, but such a small percentage, less than the mainland by far. Mahalo.
From what I have gathered, tourists are welcome because they bring money and leave. But when you try to move there is where the problem begins. Some view mainlanders as taking their land.
Some hold that view. The much more common reason is that people don't really understand the culture and it rejects them. Of course the financial element plays a big part
I was born and raised Wai'anae before Hawaii became the 50th state. I am a local haole and had very few problems growing up in Wai'anae. I loved the people I grew up with and they treated me like ohana. I look back on my childhood and I wouldn't change a thing. I would do it all over again.
Been to Hawaii several times (Oahu, Maui and Hilo) and have always been treated nicely. Lived there for 3 months in Honolulu, not a bad experience ever.
It reminds me similar to the PNW, I was born and raised in the Coeur d'Alene, ID area and that's a big part of all I hear when I listen to other people talk about the Californians moving there ect. A lot of them aren't welcomed but then some are. Just depends on the people you are interacting with. One day I plan on moving to Maui, I think the biggest thing I've learned from being here (it's the #1 relocating spot right now in the U.S.) is if you move somewhere then please don't try to change it, don't be rude to the locals that lived there prior ect. Something that does make me somewhat sad for Hawaii is an article I read about how the beaches are slowly disappearing due to to people putting privacy fences up against the shores (I think it was a privacy fence, it's been a while since I read it, or maybe it was sand bags). Good article maybe look it up! It definitely caught my attention. To me people who live on an island are amazing, most of my family lives in Sardinia. Wherever you go just be kind and spread some good acts around.
I love to shove that part in people's faces. I had sooo many Republican friends tell me ohhhh Hawaii is sooo racist, this is America. Then COVID hits and boom all my Floridian friends are calling me like "now I know why you guys don't want anyone there". It's easy to say people are racist when they don't want you around until it happens to your own town that you love and care about. People come flooding in and turn your paradise to trash. It's really a sickness. I feel bad for Idaho.
Born and raised here. Everyone is welcome as long as you don't think you're going to move here and live off the land. We have way too many mainland homeless here using social services and resources that should be used for local families who need those resources. Plan to work at least two full time jobs if you want to have your own apartment otherwise prepare to rent a bedroom for about $1000 a month.
Hahaha you see you are what keeps the problem alive .....get a job ...no no no you yourself should live off the land...but let me guess you got a job too huh... homeless drug city. People can be an issue I agree but the people living off the land should be welcome ... There are plenty of fish in the sea ...and plenty land animal to hunt just dont hunt the mothers and let the children grow a certain size and theres food for all....only a concrete jungle needs money and for you to be a slave to a job.... I say to all kanakans and those who wish to live free ...fighht the system by not joining it.... To help with tv and stores ...roads and rule...just live hunt eat swim and die ...otherwise you are just like the white man
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom I say again ...to claim savage warriors and not kill the people you dont want there is the reason why it still goes on...plus the deals that the king g made with British entangled the takeover...ita sounds fucked up but either kill for the land or lose it...obvioulsy haolie gonna keep coming...plus forget the past cause thats not gonna help the future...come up with new ways or keep hating the take over .....its the equivalent to listening to blacks hate whites....they always say take me back to Africa....but did you know that most Africans dont like american blacks....twisted world we live in but hey noones going anywhere
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom ever heard of the Barbary coast.....that was a main slave trade area ....and everyone were slaves ...white people and darker .....its in human nature to be dominant...and dominant always shifts but right now it is cleary obvoous where the power is planing to be....you sound like you want to be educated on things based on your backround and cultures happenings...but before you put faith in those that started it all....just remeber ....they started it all....and for the same reading that start is while theyll never finish....they ate prepared to kill or drag it out till whoever they occupy Dies out ...thats everywhere. Not just hawaii
I had locals give me that "look" a couple of times, but with most of them they are quite nice. My opinion is that if I spent 4 years in the military to protect ALL of the states of our country, I am entitled to visit and live anywhere I want to. I find respect goes a long way.
Nice! I lived here for one year and I never had problems with the locals. I met some locals and they are wonderful, friendly and respectful people. It sad that some people have to deal with some locals who hate. Let's pray it gets better.
We moved to Maui and stayed a year. We never felt like islanders discriminated against us; most people we’re kind and we moved because of the cost of living.
I lived in Hawaii way back... over 30 years ago. I was immediately enchanted by the physical beauty, but it's no longer one of my favorite places to visit. I much prefer going to the Mediterranean now where there is less underlying animosity. As a gay person who already has had issues with ostracization in a society that is not fully accepting, I would not want to move anywhere that is also unwelcoming for even more reasons (IE: race, background, etc.). I remember one moment that stood out for me in Hawaii where my friend (a bit more flamboyant) and I were threatened and called "faggots" as we were walking down a very public, touristy beach (not even a "locals" beach). I wouldn't move to some of the Southern United States for the same reason: too much xenophobia, myopia and hostility and not enough Aloha. I fully understand why this attitude has risen in Hawaii and it's a sad state of affairs, but personally, I feel there are more friendly places to live with my background.
@@livehawaii The harassment was around 10 years ago while visiting, but every year mostly gets better... and as you say above, the ultimate goal is to be more empathetic and compassionate to our fellow humans, no matter what their political persuasion, race, gender, etc. :-)
For every new person who moves here, moves a local or native out and raises all our costs. The outer islands do not want to become Oahu. We will fight that cause that's not what Hawai'i is about. We fight to preserve all things native that should be respected and kept for all future generations. It's a haole mentality that is to build, build, invest and make more money. When that is simply not our way.
@Erika5 good luck everyday people move here and most, don't last 6 months. Some may go 3-5 years and then leave. It's hard here. Wish you luck, you're gonna need it.
@@coloringforkids8634 I was born and raised Maui and I have Kanaka Maoli blood, yes I married a mixed local born Japanese boy. Some of our ancestors are foreigners and I still stand by my statement. People love Hawai'i and its people, but what happens when everything that makes Hawai'i, Hawai'i? When the Hawaiian people are gone it will no longer be Hawai'i.
Boooo not true ....aloha translates to guilt trip/taxation .....if I give its because I can afford to not because I owe you...because I apreciate you not because your land is "stolen"
@@royedwards51 very true that's what it's about that's why we respect the local hāole cuz they respect our culture and live it you guys on the other hand come here and disrespect us not even the local haoles like you guys cuz they know you guys are ignorant but than there are haoles who come here and respect us also but some act like they didn't do nothing but they usually give stink eye or talk to us smart than a local says something then they say we are racist
Been to Hawaii (Oahu) around 20 times over the years. Hawaiians are wonderful people from my experience. They are very proud of their culture and if you respect that and blend In you should be fine.
There is that word "respect" again. You can say that anywhere on the planet. Hawaii is not some "Holy ground" that needs to be bowed to every other step. SMH.
You sound like you have problems Jake if that’s what you took away from my comment. Having and showing respect means don’t act like an ass and be polite. Hope that clarifies it for you.
It’s so interesting to hear about whites experiencing racism. It’s like they’ve never been judged by the color of their skin before! Welcome to the party 😄🎉
It's not a skin color thing, despite what many people think. It's more of a demonstrable acceptance and embrace of local culture. That matters more than anything.
Im from Alaska and we in Alaska have a very large integration of Islanders and we are very nice to them, when ever we go to Hawaii we are treated very nice for the majority. There are bad experiences but its from the ignorant ones, real people treat people real.
Different people have different experiences some are positive, some are negative. Regardless, it is difficult to draw a conclusion based on what you hear from a very small group of people, one way or another
There is no doubt a lot of "BS" but there is also a lot of pure bliss and endless gratitude about living in the most special place in earth. And that is the strongest evidence of a spiritual basis: the fact that the same place can have vastly different experiences for different people.
@@livehawaii I couldn't have been more humble and nice I really made an effort but was treated like an outsider. I almost left vacation early. I could feel it the moment I got on the plane in Denver Colorado
It will be very difficult to “ live off the land”. All land is owned and people get terribly upset if you decide to reside on their property and use their resources. Why not rent/purchase a place? If you have no money then please don’t come. You will only add to the burden of homeless people on the streets.
This has gone on for years. Ask the military people!!! I know both sides of the coin. I bought my home here, after serving on O'ahu, for numerous years (more than 10) if you really need to know. I think my saving grace (coming from Southern CA) was that I'm Native American with dark hair and dark eyes (as are my children) who also surf. In all our time on Oahu, we've never been treated badly, treated like "howlies". The Natives here on Oahu, have been Amazingly loving, gracious and kind and have blessed our lives beyond words. It's all about attitude.
Katarina Carlos ------ You specified that you're "Native American with dark hair and dark eyes", as your "saving grace". So, it's NOT "all about attitude", contrary to your own last line. It's PARTLY about attitude --- BUT --- as you yourself pointed out, your "saving grace" was your RACE AND COLOR.
Peter Kay Living in Hawaii Awesome, I’ve been following your channel and Emails for the the past 18 months. They have helped me greatly. I’ll keep a lookout for your show today.
I was born or raise in hawaii I move here when I was in my 20s now in my 40 had my girls here one my daugther father born and raise in hawaii god rest his soul everyone was very kind and nice as long you didn’t disrespect them and there culture you be fine
@@Eaglejake I have spent quite a bit of time on all the main outer islands. Local attitudes are hit or miss. I've never had any serious issues on any of the islands. It's not inclusive, like on Guam or Phillipines.
@@cl1ps755 you're lucky China didn't get there first. All that happened before any of us were born. Same with the indians and all the US territories. The govt before our time is to blame. Don't blame people like me that had nothing to do with stealing land.
5:26 Bullshit dude, drive through Waianae at night with that SUV. Waimanalo is sketchy as fuck too. And you are wrong about Lanikai, there is simply no parking there and those houses have been there for 100 years. They just don’t want people parking in front of their driveway. That’s it.
Years ago I met a white girl in college who grew up in Hawaii. I said to her how lucky she was, she informed me how growing up being constantly bullied was not lucky. She was a quiet person and I dropped the subject. Years later I vacationed in Hawaii and caught an unwelcomed vibe at times and then saw house for sale sign that the owner had placed with the phrase "never to a white" on it. Welcome to 1950 Alabama. Since then I've spent many vacations in the Caribbean and a few in South Asia. Far better snorkeling and far better people. Hopefully Hawaii will regain its independence and, without US taxpayer's dollars, become the third world nation it deserves to be.
Right? How dare they? The US "helped" Hawaii by overthrowing their queen, turning them into Christians, banning their language, navigational techniques, and taking their lands. They should be thanking each and every one of us. /sarcasm
@@drivehard2395 get your history right. First, native Hawaiians embraced Christianity on their own. Liholiho share a meal with Ka'ahumanu in 1819, well before any significant colonization. Certainly the US aided the overthrow. The destruction of Hawaiian culture was definitely driven by the Dole & Co in the decades afterward but you can't pin that on the US govt as Hawaii was only a territory until '59.
@@kimohana LOL.. my native friends on O'ahu taught me otherwise. Hawiians "embraced" christianity because missionaries shoved it down their throats. That is what I was taught by Hawaiians. As far as the rest of "history" you are agreeing with me.... so... ? You are nott disputing the banning of their language or preventing ocean navigation being taught. So your only bone to pick is about Christianity, which tells me you are a Christian.
@@drivehard2395 just because you're native doesn't mean you know your history and clearly your native friends do not. The rest of your comments indicate you actually don't have a clue of what you're talking about and aren't worth my time. But I could be wrong - which books on Hawaiian history have you (or your native Hawaiian friends, for that matter) read?
Oahu has been ruined, other than parts of the Waianae side. Sugar and pineapple are gone. Almost 1,000,000 people on about 500 square miles. Japanese/Chinese/Filipino/Vietnamese/Samoan/Hawaiian Americans all protecting their own group. The competition is horrific for limited jobs. Everything costs too much. Oahu is not even a nice place to visit anymore. Even the other islanders hate Honolulu (the only times to go to Honolulu are to get high quality medical care, to catch an international flight, or to go to weddings and funerals. The place swarms with Asian and Haole tourists. Polynesian Hawaiians feel like their native land has been raped (and it has). Oh yes, with the tourists gone due to the pandemic, the locals are breathing sighs of relief despite being unemployed...
You touched on a subject that I appreciate Hawaii is an occupied territory and naturally the indigenous locals in particular are rather resentful of that understandably so I would be flipping the bird every day if I were an indigenous local living close to poverty line because of permanent tourists gentrifying my homeland.
I feel that any country or culture has every right to react in a negative way toward a foreigner wanting to immigrate to their homeland (yes, I realize that Hawaii'i is still a part of the US. But I think the same thing can still apply to Hawaii'i as well for different reasons). This is the primary reason why I don't wish to immigrate to another country; I should not be living in some place where I am not a part of the local culture. Cultures, traditions, and racial demographics change because of immigration. And that's something that I totally do not wish to take part in.
1893 is 8 generations ago. 95% of the people voted to become a state, and part of the USA in 1959. No one alive experienced 1893 in Hawaii. Stop playing the victim and spare me the attitude if you consider yourself "local" in Hawaii. I don't care. Be fair. You be nice, and I'll return the favor. SMH.
rsuriyop ------ So, apparently you are opposed to any and all immigration. Well, that's how the Earth was inhabited and populated. MIGRANTS spread all over the planet. For example, POLYNESIANS (IM)MIGRATED TO HAWAII. Eventually they were called "Hawaiians".
@@gregcarter8656 You are thinking about the earliest days in human migration way before societies were fully developed and actual borders were even defined. Not exactly a good comparison.
@@rsuriyop At all points along the 300,000 year timeline of human activity, if a group (of whatever size) is currently in a "nice spot", then any nearby group(s) could be jealous and want to "move in" ("immigrate"). So, the same basic issues have ALWAYS been around. The only difference is that of scale.
All in all moving to Hawaii is not something that anybody should do you make things harder and more expensive for Hawaiians and locals who are actually born and raised here all of you guys know that
If you come to Hawaii, come with two things. Large amounts of money to afford the cost of living or a pre-arranged job that makes what it takes to live here plus money for a plane ticket home. We're getting too many guys/girls moving here with neither. Too many dreamers who hope that Hawaii is the panacea that will allow them to cure their bad habits and emotional difficulties. Wrong Jack. If you have a GED or are a dropout, we don't want you. If your work experience is in unskilled areas, we don't want you. If you have a substance abuse issue and think new place, new me, we don't want you. We got too many aimless drifters from the mainland that exacerbates our homeless problem. Sorry, the Aloha Store is closed.
@@josephinetracy1485 no, just a native who can still afford to live here that has seen people who weren't prepared for the cost of living or planned on becoming homeless import chaos and wreak havoc on communities that never wanted them.
@@obhittinthree I've never even been to Hawaii, but what you wrote then is a proposal. However, I think we probably both realize that this country is a soft dictatorship. For example, President Bush dropped about 190,000 bombs on impoverished people to make money for the very same Wall Street war profiteers who had sponsored him. Then in 2008, people voted in President Obama to stop all of that, and he responded by dropping another 190,000 bombs on impoverished people to make money for the very same Wall Street war profiteers who has sponsored him. So the only way to make anything happen what would go counter to big profits is to seize control away from their deeply embedded structure, which is really hard to do.
I’ve dreamed of moving to Hawaii for almost 20 years; the dream is really my way of coping with stress (it’s unlikely we’d move there). I think adopting the “When in Rome…” approach works in most places. Mean people suck, and they won’t change - go around them. No worries. 😉
I told my son if he doesn't stop ignoring me, I'm running away to Hawai'i !! And cuz it looks like the world is going to s*** and I jst wanna die happy
Do it.... I talk to my parents every day and bought a house 1.5 miles away from them. If your kid doesnt call you every day or at least once a week then take off and live your life. I wish my parents would have picked up and retired somewhere awesome like Hawaii. I would have followed them there in a heart beat. The only reason i havent moved there yet is because i would have to fly back all the time to see them and couldnt afford to do that. Once i move out there, there is no coming back. The next time i take that long of a flight it will be a one way for sure.
@@ginadelsasso288 My daughter doesn't call anymore. I am moving to Honolulu as soon as this Covid slows down. I had planned on leaving in March with my 2 bags and my slippas 🙏 I graduated high school at Radford high. I have been dying to go back. Finally got enough cash, and bam.. A dam virus ..
I won't be out for at least a year. I'm currently in San Diego & I love it here cuz it kinda reminds me of Hawai'i, i.e. more laid back compared to LA. I need to get moved outta my tiny box into a place w 1 bdrm so I can sort thru everything including my 5x10 storage. I figure also that gives my son enough time to get a different attitude, otherwise I'm leaving. I not gonna die heartbroken 😎🌺👙👣🌴🍷🍍🍣🌞🐟🐠🐙🐳
Thanks for this video guys. I'm originally from Long Beach and lived in Hawaii for 20 years on several islands, Maui, Big Isle and Oahu. Most of the time it was fine, however there's a certain percentage of usually young local guys who hate us. I've had guns pointed at me twice when driving, screamed at and nearly run over just walking along the road in Kona, threatened in Lahaina, threatened surfing on Oahu. Ive had local girlfriends who were so sweet but with mean cousins. Through deep surfing roots I became pretty much local haole with respect for the people and land, but still got the hate vibs. I've had wonderful friends there. However, there's always that base racist tension. They hate us for taking it but if we weren't there to defend it in ww2 the Japanese would have murdered their grandparents and they wouldn't be here, just saying. It would be Japan and incredibly expensive. I wouldn't put my kids through the school system. They're Happa but it gets violent. So, even though I love Hawaii , there's always that feeling of hatred in the air. When those same locals get old they'll collect social security and maybe mellow out and just go catch some waves or go fishing. Hawaiians fought side by side with haoles defending the Pacific and dying. Whatever the history bras, localism and territorialism is still an ugly thing. Respect goes both ways. They should try not to be so entitled in the 21st century. I understand the history and apologise for the takeover, and the sovereignty movement has some merit, but Hawaii has a good locally elected state government that does a great job representing the people. Maybe just let life flow more like the trade winds. Don't blame every haole for the past, they're innocent. I love Hawaii and the local people. 💘 Aloha Nui Loa 💜🏝🌈🌊🌺🏄♂️🧡
"They hate us for taking it but if we weren't there to defend it in ww2..." something something, American militarism in the Pacific made Hawaii a target. WW2 happened 5 decades after the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom had many allies that would have helped defend it against an invasion. Hawaiians themselves are not innocent little children incapable of carrying a gun.
Here in Virginia, we Jeep beach people gravitate towards the 4wd Outer Banks, Corolla and Ocracoke Island beaches. It's a beautiful place, maybe not as much as Hawaii, but for reasons of distance, costs, racism nonsense and over crowding, I'll take the Outer Banks, NC over Hawaii any day of the week. 🏖😎 I wish everyone well and one day soon, we'll all be guests in God's beautiful Heaven where all hatred and racism doesn't exist. Maranatha o Lord 🕆 God bless brothers and sisters
I'm a realist. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Yes, if you show respect and Aloha you'll get respect and Aloha. That said, there's obviously a segment of locals in Hawaii that hold resentment to haoles no matter what. When haoles, I mean whites, behave that way it's called racism. Vid from Laird Hamilton and comments says alot: ua-cam.com/video/JewvDfYBGeQ/v-deo.html
Uncle, You miss the point. I stay Kaua'i and she is a fragile island and entirely over-stressed now. Stand apart from the real estate perspective for one day. Imagine how Kanaka Maoli felt to have this place stolen from them. Kama aina is not about being Ha'ole, or local Ha'ole, or anyone else. Living aloha is a respect and responsibility to the islands. Real estate is not a financial investment. Just try.
I am here right now and yes there is a lot of that but there is so many good people , But my wife has been called a howly..and it really hurt her but .We love and respect Kauai and really want to move here..
There's no other place I'd rather live than in Hawaii. Saying that, there is an underlying prejudice against haoles here, in spite of what most locals will say out loud. Of course, there are really bad people everywhere, even in Hawaii. Try walking around the ghettos in Saint Louis or Baltimore or Chicago or New York at night - yipes. No thanks. For years, I avoided Waimanalo, but not any more. If you respect the Hawaiian culture, you'll fit right in. Aloha Nui Loa
@@kimohana Im not blaming anyone. I’m just saying don’t buy in Hawaii. It hurts the native Hawaiians and locals too. I understand that people can do whatever they want to do but if you have any kind of heart you wouldn’t want to contribute to the struggle of the people who belong here. Why should they have to move out of their homeland so that outside transplants can move in! It’s wrong on every level
@@bn3807 not sure what you're implying here. can you explain? If Hawaiians don't sell, people can't buy. If Hawaiians DO want to sell, then if you're telling people they should not buy, you're hurting the Hawaiians who want to sell but now cannot. So are you telling Hawaiians that if they want to sell, they can only sell to other Native Hawaiians? What, exactly, would your policy be here?
@@kimohana most people that sells in Hawaii are not of Hawaiian blood and I think you know that Since the influx of outsiders buying up property and driving the housing cost up it next to impossible now for native Hawaiians to buy being that an average home in Hawaii is a million dollars ! It’s difficult for them to even afford the high cost of rent and They are having to move to the mainland
@@bn3807 let's say you're right for discussion purposes. Most people that are selling their land in Hawaii are not of Hawaiian blood. So are you now telling those people that they can only sell their homes to Native Hawaiians? And if we assume that Native Hawaiians were here since before statehood, why didn't they buy a home back then? If a person's geneology goes back hundreds of years, doesn't that imply that none of their ancestors ever bought? Or at least that their ancestors sold their home at some time? Look, I get it, it's super sad that Hawaii has become so expensive that so many families have to leave. But so far, you haven't proposed any policy solution to the problem that actually makes sense.
Hi Peter, your channel is very informative, thus the reason I subscribed. My family and I visited Ohau twice in 2018 and absolutely fell in love with Waimanalo. I know this might be a tough question for you to answer, but how do Hawaiians feel about black people? I would really appreciate your feedback. Let me just add I felt really comfortable there with the exception of one minor incident that took place in downtown Honolulu. Thank you.
@@livehawaii See "Hawaiian Dictionary" by Pukui and Elbert, 1986 edition, page 343. The entry for PŌPOLO, meaning #1, says: "The black nightshade . . . Because of its color, pōpolo has long been an uncomplimentary term: see lepo pōpolo. In modern slang, Blacks are sometimes referred to as pōpolo."
I would love to move to Hawaii if the HOA fees went like $1,400 per month. That means that even if you bought a place outright you would still have a $1,400/month payment. I feel like you can never really own anything in Hawaii.
It depends what the HOA is for. We pay 900 dollars a month in HOA fee. However , the HOA covers EVERYTHING external of the home and landscaping. It dropped my home insurance from $400 (that was in The mainland) to $77 (here) a month. So almost got half my money back in return. There are affordable HOA fees. Not all of them are $1400 a month. Just got to keep looking around.
I went to school in Hawaii. My issue is that it is open and even acceptable. To say hoale is not derogatory is a lie. In this video, PK said " sometimes people acted hoale" followed by chuckles. Use that same sentence with any other derogatory racist slur and it would not be acceptable.
it's all about context. if someone says "go to that haole guy at the end of the row", there's nothing wrong. if someone says "get out of my way you fracking haole", yeah that's bad. If someone says, "man, you turning haole!", that's more funny than anything.
thanks for adding that. I certainly agree that it can (and is) used in a derogatory way and definitely agree that it would be nice if it wasn't the case.
The only thing if I were to live in Hawaii is to get away from the state of new Jersey to relax and to destress,way too many crazy people in new jersey
It’s hypocritical to me. They want tourists out, but the state collapsed and jobs were lost at a record high when tourists were out due to COVID. So which fate do they want?
Localism is not all bad. Wealthy people buy so many property and then housing is getting too expensive for the original people. So if you're not wealthy you better do something to keep your community liveable for the locals too.
To preface; I'm nearly half haole (English) from a part haole extended family and have dozens of close haole friends. Individually, they're all smart, humble, respectful, giving people, haole or not. But let's be REAL here Peter Kay: you play the neutral skillfully, but deep down you're not unlike haoles that come here, move here, who think they're superior to "local" people. Most haole come and complain, complain, complain, that its not the paradise they saw in a brochure or in the the movies (starring all haoles of course). For them, it's poetic justice they had poor experiences, it's their attitudes that set the thesis of their visit. As they were raised to, they take, take, and take again, invest little in the community outside their own selfish personal interests, blurt out sweeping criticisms of the people, language, culture, foods, costs, traffic, roads, everything. Don't believe me?, it's all over UA-cam ... these imperious, entitled haoles fkng complaining, mostly young cocky ones who come here and expect locals to be their servants, worshippers of the white way. Funny how they don't confront us with their bullshit caterwauling in face to face. Actually, I did have one red faced drunk haole guy come up to me in 2015 while I was sitting down to a nice dinner with family at an open air restaurant saying, "You LOCALS think you're tough eh?". He and his group of drunk haoles were having a good laugh at our expense. I laughed too, until he grabbed my shirt, then the brief encounter ended swiftly with him comatose on the floor. They're always tough in groups these pricks... I asked if anyone else on his side if needed help ending their evenings too, ... no more laughing and no takers of course. It was stupid, and I'm not some wannabe violent badass type, until I'm incited. It's their kind of unchecked arrogance and belligerence that doesn't go over well with anyone, not just "locals". And by the way, Native Hawaiians like me, don't necessarily identify with the "locals" labelization. In Hawaii that term is a loose and often condescending fit for all generational migrant ethnicities that aren't haole; polynesians, asians, hispanics, the resulting blendings, etc. I didn't move here, I was born here, as were many ancestral generations in my family line. We Kanaka Ma'oli are the descendants of a truly amazing ancient bloodline who's culture and lands were outright stolen by the white man, who now expects us to be lie down to them when they come here talking loud , saying and doing incredibly stupid things. With this piece, you work under the framing of settling differences between cultures, but it feels lightly veiled. Our Aloha only goes so far Mr. Kay, so take care in what's being implied here. Aloha should NEVER be perceived as a weakness, it'll end very badly for those who think it is. Maybe you should direct your posts into imploring visitors to appreciate this place and not do or say anything stupid when they get here! Tell them, not ask them , to wise up.
I appreciate the time you took to share and clearly much of what you say is true. The more stories we have, the more full and accurate the picture is. But make no mistake, you have absolutely no idea what I'm like "deep inside" and you also have no idea to the things I and my ancestors done to help Kanaka Maoli. Perhaps if you knew those things you might have said things different to me. But my beliefs are being put on this channel one at a time and I welcome you to watch all of the other videos on my channel and you'll see I'm doing my best in my way to preserve our priceless culture and way of life. Finally, you should know that I've have told more people than anyone else to not move to Hawaii - numbering in the thousands. I'm glad you're here and welcome your comments. I know your heart is in the right place and I'm with you.
Lots of white people tryna sell others on the bs fact that “Hawaiians are the most racist they should be glad we destroyed everything they loved” it’s really ridiculous.
Haole means foreigner or outsider. I think theres a frustration between a healthy balance between tourism and locals living in Hawaii. Right now Hana Maui is awful with too many tourists in a small narrow road that cannot handle that kind of traffic. We need to find another industry besides tourism.
They've been saying that "we need to diversify our economy" ever since I first got here and that was in the 80s. That effort has been a complete failure. IMO until we're ready to dramatically cut back on tourism, and face the full negative consequences (people leaving, unintended consequences), we'll never get off tourism. But I will wager that people tied to the tourism economy, which is just about everyone, will (understandably) not want to go through that pain.
It is called "Last Haole Syndrome." I am the last one allowed, no more.. It's a Silly place regarding localism, and racism. Especially if one is an avid surfer.
I am going to see if the Kona side is for me, visited Oahu...too many people and terrible traffic, went to Maui, loved it but not wealthy enough to live there, next will be Big Island. Too many years living through Alaska winters.
It's not "tourists" or "haoles", not all tourists are white. When we locals say Haole we usually mean white. I'm haole and fine with it unless someone says "f'n haole". Then I'm not ,in that context.
I love Hawaii and agree that the vast majority of residents are quite nice and represent the Aloha spirit well. In fact, I'll be living there full time by October. Hawaii, like anywhere else on the planet, has it's share of less-than-stellar people. That said, the expectation that haoles need to act a certain way else the locals will give them the stink eye has always struck me as strange. Let's face it, wherever you go on this earth, you're a "haole" to the local population. But you don't get a lecture about it. Common decency and reciprocal respect should be universal. Haranguing haoles to behave differently in Hawaii implies people in Hawaii are more fragile, which ironically is a form of soft bigotry.
@@livehawaii Not exactly sure what you mean. Don't get me wrong...as a mainlander, I know I'm uptight. I hope and pray that Aloha washes over me after living there. I don't want to change Hawaii, I want Hawaii to change me. Just pointing out the fact that this topic of negativity towards haoles pops up more than once in a blue moon when discussing Hawaii. And yes, I'm aware of the history of Hawaii from Cpt. Cook to the present.
We have tourists in pahoa.And i can understand why locals feel this wayi Its the pandemic and lack of respect for the land.Locals see how the mainland is.
I think you're missing the point. Anyone in the USA can also move to a small town in West Virginia where everyone knows everyone for generations, but that doesn't mean that move is a good idea
My wife and I got married in Kauai! The night before the wedding I had some drinks with the guys that came, a couple of locals came up asking where we were from, being a little aggressive. But we met their aggression with love and respect! They ended up telling us some good places to go and we invited them if they were ever in California to look us up and we would show them around. Love and respect for each other goes along way! We went back to Kauai for our honeymoon, our favorite place ran out of straws for the coconut Thai tea we liked! So we walked to the store down the street and bought a few packs of straws for them! We brought it back and they were so thankful! We score free coconut Thai teas for the rest of our trip! Love and respect again goes along way!
"Respect" is the most overused word on Kauai and the outer islands. "Aggressive" is met with aggression. Total BS from the locals. Anywhere else on the planet, and there will be problems. "met with love and respect"??....why?
@@Eaglejake hahahahahaha I see it like this they argressed hoping for a chance to fight and then say stupid howlie leave our island ...or they agress be punking somebody is how they like to live because you might some free items or ass licking from those who fear. Heres an idea when somone comes out of nowhere saying you better respect them ....you can turn around and tell them respect isnt just given...its earned...and either they turn political on you and show you "respect" or they continue to try to punk you.... And at those points either make em a political target or take em out as the threat they pridefully prove to be.....
Haole actually has a meaning it is the opposite of Aloha which is the breath of life/love.. Haole is the taker of life/love.. It means the breathless. Which is pretty offensive if you ask me.
Scott said there’s not a single neighborhood he feels uncomfortable going to being born and raised currently living in Hawaii that isn’t accurate there are places where it is not safe for him to go certain streets he should not walk down even in the middle of the day don’t go advertising that before you get people hurt it just shows that there are places you have not been
Wife’s family lives in Oahu since the 70s they are Lao. Been going to Maui and Oahu for 14 years. The last few times I have visited both and have had people confront me and tell me to leave. I am ex military and people assume I am still in. I am always friendly and when I stay in the resorts I like to wake up early and get coffee and I like to chat to employees and ask about them. Last time it was really bad. Everyone I spoke to make quick one answer reply’s. I would ask how was their day. Or any plans on their days off? All blank faces. Many times I have been to places on the island that most mainlanders don’t visit in general. Being with my wife locals think she is from Hawaii and it shields me. I get the hate. I live in Oregon and we have problems with the city people visiting the burbs and hanging out in the malls and shopping areas . It’s so bad anywhere you go is always busy and it’s hard to find spots or times to be alone or with the same people. I just don’t say anything. Anyone I have met from Hawaii I tell them I could tell them to go back home but I don’t. I remind them to think of the same when mainlanders visit Hawaii.
Technically... if you have no Hawaiian blood in you , your considered a haole. Full blooded Hawaiian Kanaka , extremely rare but there are a few. Half blooded hawaiian any race "Hapa Haole. Not in an offensive way. The Hawaiian word for a person with no Hawaiian blood" is Haole. Its unfortunate that most of the people that took advantage of the Hawaiians were white men "Haole" and that's how we come to know the meaning of the word now. Hawaiians knew about all the other races and have Hawaiian names for each race , and they didn't name each race out of hate or disrespect. Majority of Hawaiians are Hapa Haole, but we're all brought up to know respect. For one another, the land ,the ocean, and our fresh water sources. If anyone tries to take or destroy that there not a Haole there pilau.
Most of the people that take advantage of Hawaiians are ----------> OTHER HAWAIIANS. Same thing for every race. The greatest threat comes from within. You are your own worst enemy.
You just bought a condo....they the locals just lost their house (ie the one you just bought). And you wonder why they don't want you there. I 100% side with the natives
Do you know the people that sold it? Do you know what they did with it? Do you know why they sold it? Why do you automatically assume they somehow "lost" it?
From the mainland- I've been fortunate enough to have visited Big Island 2x. I do want to return when this Covid thing gets under control, if ever. It is incredibly beautiful and everyone I encountered was unbelievably friendly (except the 2 that attempted to rob our vacation rental ;), attempted). The crowding/traffic/high COL is not unique to HI. The "problem" is the same everywhere, overpopulation/overdevelopment. Just here in central CA commuters have turned a 2hr drive into a 4hr commute because jobs in the bay area don't pay enough to live there. Living in HI? Great place to visit but not for me. It IS an island and for me I like to just hop in a car and go. I've heard people go to HI just to be homeless in paradise. Wonder if that will change with the new True-ID law going into effect.
Apparently even the people who move to the islands see the need to reduce the influx of nonresident population. Face it the islands are very finite in available land to accomadate a growing population. As more and more land is developed it reduces the quality of the beauty of Hawai'i. It's not so much about rejecting as it is about preserving.
@@livehawaii look at the statement it's the newly arrived that is making them as well as the people who've been there generations. It's not because people are " unwelcome" it's because there is only so much development that it's unsustainable. Part of the reason people love the islands is it's natural beauty. Further development will only erode this quality.
I don't disagree with what you're saying. We live in Hawaii because of its natural beauty. However, the current approach of not allowing development is also sending home prices through the roof which makes it ultimately unaffordable for the very local people that we want to have homes for. Ironically, limiting development forces out locals makes it so that only the wealthiest can afford to live here. At the same time, you can't also develop like crazy. my point is, it's a really complicated issue.
@@livehawaii Yeah, you stole the indians land,and your boy trump want to build a wall,and keep so call illegals out,as if whites aren't the biggest illegals their is.
I can see how some locals dont want more people here because more people means more modernization, more roads, houses and less 'Aina and less sacred land that holds special mana(spiritual power ). Im a local braddah my self and i feel like everyone should have an opportunity to feel and enjoy Hawai'i because it truly is a unique and very special place unlike anywhere else in the world i just would like to see everyone help to take care and preserve the few sacred grounds our hawaiian culture has left. Hawai'i islands is what makes us Hawaiian and if we loose this we loose who we truly are...much love to you all hope you guys are truly blessed and keep on keeping on. #Yessahblessah🤙🤙💯🌺👌
I'm so glad so said that. It's EXACTLY what I'm trying to do! We need to protect what makes Hawaii so precious and recognize that the foundation is the Hawaiian culture and values. Right on!
Just one more reason not to go to Hawaii. Might be better if the US cut it loose and let Hawaii fend for itself. I certainly will never put foot on it.
You are trying to soften the word haole - I grew up in Kaneohe - public school all the way to Kalaheo grad. It is not a term of endearment. I was full on involved as a kid with only locals, my family went to 'nalo parties a long time ago at Pahinuis, and lots of other old school connections. Windys Drive Inn, Waikiki theaters, dominos and hand ball in Waikiki - just to say I was there from the late 60s. There are good people and bad people. I was a super chill nice kid, no problem in HS, but elementary in the 1970s was bad. Castle in the 70s was bad as siblings went there. It was full on racism and nothing you could do. It was a herd mentality and I learned quick to navigate. I am all good, not a victim. When you are allowed to surf at only certain spots unless you go with a local friend, it is sad. Don't sugar coat these cowards. The true local friends were awesome but the whole idea that you must show respect and have to walk on eggshells because of your skin color is a joke in the USA - like it or not it is a better place because of the USA. It is what it is, but the place has 3x more people from then and the congestion is stressful. I live on the mainland now, but visit - nothing is the same - all the hang outs gone and seems like everyone I talk to for real are sick of traffic, costs and trying to get to Vegas or out. If you already have a generation of family there like me, is fine. But think of moving to an Indian reservation, same thing - you will never be an Indian so you have to just observe a lot and go a along with a lot of ignorant BS. But when you find the true people with aloha spirit, it is very good. My ancestor served Kamehameha as Chief Justice for many years. But I am still a haole and it is used as "foreigner" imo.
Well said. You grew up in the "Kill Haole Day" and "Kill Jap Day" era. Much of that is different now but it's not gone. As a mainland haole I was fortunate to learn local culture and never had a problem but I know that's the exception.
@livehawaii I will add that there is a vast difference between people who were born and raised versus coming to Hawaii as an adult because you don't have the normal adolescent dynamics typical in schools regardless of location such as bullying and just general hormonals. That is where the racism lived in 20 somethings and down. All kids go through navigating systems but when you add the specific hurt of racism that is why it was so different. But some fat people will say they were fat shamed and other people will say whatever so it is what it is and I am stronger for it.
That's a really really good point. I had the "normal" challenges of an adolescent in a public school, but back then race was just not a factor at all. We used to make fun of each other's nationalities, but that's about as far as it went. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been when you overlay the whole race thing in schools.
I'm a haole guy, moved to Hawaii in 1991 for a tenure track job at UH-Hilo. Moved with my male partner, and never had a problem. Moved to O'ahu for a promotion in the community college system. I learned Hawaiian and was very proficient/near fluent in it. Listen and learn. Anyone moving to Hawaii needs to talk less, and listen more. Haole is not a derogatory term - I was one of two white males in a workgroup of 32 on the Big Island, and the only haole guy in a workgroup of 28 in Honolulu. No problems.
I used to boogie-board at dawn before I went to work, and the dawn patrol folks were kind.
All that said, Hawaii is not for everyone. It is far. Misunderstandings are often corrected with the giving of backyard fruit and baked goods.
You are "so-Haole" "so Haole." I've heard from many locals "Don't be so Pake!" (Meaning thrifty/cheap)
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom What don’t you think is something to joke about or call each other?🤔
Haole is absolutely offensive. Just because they may use it in a friendly manner with you, similar to saying n*gga, does not mean it is not derogatory.
There are plenty of words which were not created as a slur but became adopted as a slur, especially in specific contexts, and are now racist to say.
If any use of "haole" truly offends you then Hawaii is definitely not for you
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom WELL SAID!👏🏼
ALOHA🤙🏼
@@S-K69 nope. The race debate in America doesn't apply anywhere else. Keep that in the mainland. Haole can be used in a non-derogatory way.
Born and Raised in Hawaii. You have both racist and non-racist people here, just like anywhere else in the world 🌎
Yes but most of the respect there is fear driven so the results are political at best
What ever you do not defund the police it’s a shame what’s going on the mainland. Crime is getting bad in major cities. This is not good for our society.
True. But Hawaii hides it for many reasons.
Which is fine but don’t disrespect those who own the land. And I’m not talking America.
@@cigarillo22 locals very much own the land. Just because a group comes and over powers means otherwise pfff. Go to town and say that. See how far you get.
Respect is always given before earned. Not both ways. I wish you would rant like you do in the heart of Hawaii. Away from towns. Where your actions will tell how you get out. 🤣😂
“Don’t be so haole” = don’t be loud and obnoxious. Act kindly and respectfully and you’ll be just fine.
That's it!
i lived 6yrs in Waianae, Oahu, area with the highest concentration of hawaiians pacific islanders, respect, eye contact, live peacefully & generously, leave your south philly or new york swag back on the mainland!! it was the best times of my life! Daily rode Da Bus, hospitality, food- amazing!! i was a uncle to all. 🤙🤙
@@edwardmichaels3388 great example of how to do it!
Raymond Sambueno Aloha back at ya Raymond. Howzit?
Just stop throwing your weight around. Act kindly and have some respect. Kudos to Dylan Nonaka.
My take on the whole Haole behavior thing… I think it all boils down to the historical pain of forced white assimilation, plantation owners and the locals high exposure to the rude entitled tourists. These jerk people on both sides obviously don’t represent the norm but I think in any tourist town, the local population has a love/hate relationship with those who visit. I have friends in beach towns, las vegas, high tourist areas, they all get tired and sick of tourists. In Hawaii’s case, most are coming from Japan or the mainland.
Most jobs in Hawaii are in tourism and service industry. Lets think for a moment about the stress the locals go through with bride zillas, entitled rude people who treat them like dirt, drunk college kids defacing property, the list goes on. Since we have a white majority on the mainland, the probability of a local running into a mean white person is higher than others.
I think that the role of server and customer can ruin the experience between cultures due to a high case of painful interactions.
Most locals are not given a fair chance to interact with white people in casual settings so I think the opportunity to cultivate genuine relationships are low. The best way for us to remove stereotypes is building this rapport by quality friend making but since its mostly transactional its superficial.
After a few bad apples, confirmation bias sets in and makes it likely for the locals to assume “that Haole behavior!” - which I think can be summarized as entitled, selfish, opportunistic, inconsiderate, greedy… by no means do I believe this is mainland or white culture, but I can see how this stereotype can be created.
The history of white interaction with the locals on the islands hasn’t always been the greatest. I’m sure there are plenty of good positive examples but the scale of damage up to date outweighs the good. From planation owners, billionaires kicking them off their lands, rude tourists, unfair occupation. Yes everyday white people have no responsibility, ability to stop this or prevent it and shouldn’t experience the wrath of the locals but i think the pain is inherited generationally and is reinforced with the hurtful interactions with new visitors.
Aside from locals, the natives are another story. Imagine if you were poor on your ancestral lands and you see one race coming in and constantly exploiting it. I think it would be difficult not to have resentment. I don’t think its right to hold anger and humans should all strive to elevate beyond this thinking but I can completely understand where this comes from. I think it would be different if we saw rich and powerful rude land owning africans, asians, hispanics on the islands but the sad reality is, the vast majority of this bunch has been represented by white mainlanders.
The main take away here is Hawaii is a special case because although its America, lots of locals feel its occupied land, the rich white foreigners vs struggling locals and it irks of old colonialism. The sad consequence would be the innocent people receiving the pent up misdirected anger. From the haole day at school. Pure racism. Hatred. I don’t agree with this sentiment some people have, but I can see why this resentment bleeds within the local population.
Although Im no local, born and raised in LA, my family are locals for generations. Second home on maui. I have a diff experience from my white buddies cause I blend in being Japanese. Hawaii is the only place outside of our asian enclaves in the west coast where I feel completely accepted and at home. My advice to white folks moving, this will probably be the only state that you will understand what it’s like to be a minority and there will be a culture shock if not prepared. Open mindedness, empathy, listening and positive thinking will help you tremendously. Catch yourself if you ever think “back home we did it like this…” … use the when in rome approach. Just like us west coasters have to learn to drive assertively in the east coast. Everyone from the mainland learns to slow down in Hawaii.
I hope you never have to go through the discrimination but have a healthy learning experience.
There is a place on the mainland where I felt the feeling of Aloha and it was southern hospitality.
I so appreciate you taking the time to add to this conversation!
wow, Joe.. nice to see you commenting here ! I'm a fan of yours !
For the love of God, 1893 was 8 generations ago. 95% voted to become a state in 1959. Every country, every people, have been conquered, reconquered, occupied, reoccupied. How far do you want to go back? It is 2020! Unless I lived it, or anyone else did, then spare me the victimization and excuses. Be accountable for your attitude and actions. "Haole behavior" is a joke. Most (locals) have never been off the island to experience the WORLD. Yes, there is a whole WORLD out there. There are nice people and not so nice people. How would the majority of the "born and raised" in Hawaii know if all they know is Hawaii? "Respect" is the most overused word on the islands. SMH.
I love Hawaii with all my heart. Came here as a military brat when I was 5 now I am in my 60s. I know we associate the word "Haole" with being white which isn't the case. I guess I don't understand that when tourist come here from the mainland and that they always assume your white. I have not been to the mainland in a long time but, I am sure tourist are also blacks, latino, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Jewish and on and on. Please STOP calling ALL tourist WHITE, because they are not. Just like HAOLE does not mean "white" and neither does the word "tourist". I hope you understand you are beginning to sound like you are stereotyping.
@@Eaglejake Mahalo my friend for that. Very well said 🤙
I was stationed in Hawaii for 8 years loved the islands and the people, however I couldn't see living there now without a lot of cash. I saw the growth of the homeless population on my last visit. It's pretty sad.
The growth of that is because of the straining and tourism
Stationing*
That's why the locals want these whites out. They move some place then buy it and next you know you're homeless on your own land.
Ask the Native Americans
I visited as a tourist several years ago. We had one bad experience but that was enough to make me re-frame my thinking of Hawaii. I think it was on Kauai, possibly Maui. Driving on a tight road with a one-lane bridge. We were there first crossing it while a truck with a bunch of young men in the back proceeded to cross as well from the other side. They wouldn't back up and yelled at us. I backed up and let them go first even tho we were there first. It was just me and my mother in the car. As they passed by the driver, a middle-aged man gave me a hard glare and the men were saying "Go back, Haole". It was menacing and threatening. Btw, I'm Asian, not white. No respect for other Asians or my elderly Asian mother.
1893 was 8 generations ago. 95% voted to become a state in 1959. Every country, every people, have been conquered, reconquered, occupied, reoccupied. How far do you want to go back? It is 2020! Unless I lived it, or anyone else did, then spare me the victimization and excuses. Be accountable for your attitude and actions. "Haole behavior" is a joke. Most (locals) have never been off the island to experience the WORLD. Yes, there is a whole WORLD out there. There are nice people and not so nice people. How would the majority of the "born and raised" in Hawaii know if all they know is Hawaii? "Respect" is the most overused word on the islands. I live on Kauai. The hate is real, taught in schools, and continues to be inculcated to the children. Meanwhile, most "locals" have never been off the island. Would do a lot to open their eyes.
@@Eaglejake Talk about missing the point. Why would you think Hawaiians want to go experience the world when their first priority is gaining their lands back that were stolen? Your priorities is haywired. "Hey, you got your land stolen, but go out there and experience the world. Don't worry about your lands." Everyone wants to come to Hawaii and you're telling them to go out of Hawaii? Please go buy a one-way ticket now if you're here.
@@alelokaoseumu Professor, you missed the point. It is 2022. Learn from the past, don't relive it. No one alive today was impacted by whatever events you "feel" happened. The past, ....some 8 generations ago, does not "entitle" anyone to anything.....or justify actions toward another race......that would be mixed Asians obvious hatred towards tourists and non Asians on Kauai. Hawaii, as a state in the USA, is much better off today, then it would be on its own, or a territory of Russia or China. Spare me....
If Hawaii was not a state in the USA, then no one would be coming here. Hawaii would be like Guam, Puerto Rico, and many other isolated islands around the world. Being well rounded and tolerant towards people can be done by being around people of different cultures, different races, religions, etc. Hawaii is not some holy land....people (born and raised) need to get off this island and experience the world and different people vice all this BS of stolen land and being oppressed. You don't know how good you have it. Stop the madness.
@@Eaglejake you talk about Russia or China owning Hawaii as if the US does not. A colonizer is a colonizer. "Oppressed" lol, a little Hawaiian child can pick you up with one hand and ragdoll you back where you came from. Demanding respect to the land and culture when visiting is not being "oppressed." You dont do the oppressing, we do, and we love it
@@alelokaoseumu Yep, my point. See if you can visit another country in your lifetime. It would do you good. Like your last sentence....Hawaii education has inculcated you well.
I wasn't born and raised in Hawaii, but my father was, my grandfather, my great grandmother, and before that. I totally get how locals would feel a lot of anger towards "haoles." It is a cultural wound that stems from the illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom by wealthy "white" businessmen and the influence of the entitled missionary mentality. Years when the culture and language and spiritual beliefs were repressed. I have had to work hard at healing my own wounds passed on by my father. I think it is horrible how expensive it is for the locals, and how many are forced to leave in order to survive. With that said, each time we've gone to Kauai to visit, it has been a wonderful visit, but mostly because I think my spouse and I do our very best to show respect to the locals, and when there, I spend time at beaches picking up trash that washes in from the sea. It won't be long, is my guess, where the bulk of native Hawaiians won't be able to afford to stay, and that to me, would be tragic. I would love to see land preservation and cultural preservation and a Hawaiian homeland program that wasn't so crazy in terms of servicing those with Hawaiian roots, below the 50% requirement. The "haoles" and American government owe the native Hawaiians big time. There hasn't been a reparation of harm. There was an apology, but an apology just isn't good enough. My two cents.
@@nb6743 Nope, wouldn't happen because the US is part of the UN so they have a responsibility to the illegal occupation and overthrow of a different government. Plus, we have trillions of dollars so PLEASE leave. But before you go, please explain why you want Hawaii so bad in the first place. Bitter to leave? Oh, it's because poor, poor America would be NOTHING without Hawaii, the greatest trading route in the WORLD! Bye. Oh and good luck on your way out when we cut a deal with China who you own Trillions to. LOL.
@@nb6743 Hawaii would thrive like New Zealand if it became an independent country. I don't see China or Japan taking over New Zealand... yet Hawaii is taken over by America. Trading one colonizer for the other is not really a choice ya nimwit.
@@nb6743 you dont think non white people are capable of running a successful country? New Zealand cannot without a British and Hawaiians without the Americans? lol this fairytale your anglo saxon ancestors fed you is just that.
@@nb6743 I shouldn't fault you, Americans are ridiculed throughout the world for being simpletons. There was a point where NZ was not a British colony. Britain is in Europe, not in Polynesia. And in modern times, NZ is an independent country. Independent means self-governing. The British Empire in your dated history book, if you've read one before, no longer exists.
@@nb6743 the natives in NZ are recognized specially by government policies and their language is taught in schools. There's even a Maori King that is recognized by the government. So yeah, Americans aren't known to be the brightest, why expect you to make an case that's not completely half-baked. Btw, even if NZ treated the Maori badly, that's not an excuse for American colonialism. Please think with your brain that God bestowed on you.
My wife and I moved to the Big Island 2 1/2 years ago. Have not seen any of this. Everyone goes out of their way to be nice to people. It is the most amazing place in the world. I can not imagine ever going back to the mainland.
My husband and I moved to the Big Island 8 years ago from California and have found nothing but aloha. We are both dark blonde hair 50 somthing years old, and never been called Hauli ( at least not that we have heard personally). Respect the land and the values of the People, be kind to others, leave your mainland mentality on the mainland and you will find much aloha here.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom There you go again, posting racist FALSEHOODS against "white people". The n-word derives from words going back to Latin, and even Proto-Indo-European, which just mean "black", the color, not a racist slur. Those ancient words have also led to the English word "night", referring to the time of darkness (blackness). Spanish "negro" basically means the color black, not a racist slur. Likewise, Niger and Nigerian are not slurs.
@@doelauzon7685 cool...are you on the Hilo or Kona side?
@@doelauzon7685 you'll move back once the grandkids come into the picture if that is a possibility. They all go back.
My life dream is to move to Hawaii. I have only been to Oahu and while there I purposely lived like a local. I loved it. I felt at home. Now the locals I spoke to ALL stated I shouldn’t move there because it’s so expensive to live there. Most locals were very bitter about having to work two or three jobs and most lived with family or roommates. I also occasionally came across some racism but I just took it all in stride. I know Hawai’i’s history and some cultures just don’t like white people. I was respectful and quiet with their views.
Well I mean how would you feel if Europeans came and took your land. Stopped you from surfing. Stopped you from doing everything your people did for thousands of years.
I’m from the Caribbean so trust me I totally get my Pacific bredren an sistrens.
@@alejandrotobienne584 Nobody was alive for that. You also don't know the ancestry of a white individual. Their ancestors could've been polish, put through terrible concentration camps by Germans, but do you see them being unfair and racist to Germans? No, you don't. It's just plain out racism and being stupid by judging someone for something they didn't do.
@@cryppi1510 literally yes to All your questions bud. Anglo Saxon history?? It’s forced on American in school
@@cryppi1510 Actually, lots of people I know personally were alive for that. Many of us in Hawaii know people LIVING TODAY that have experienced the territory days. Please don't be ignorant. So many Americans think we are like the Black people and this happened to us hundreds of years ago. It did not. Know anyone from 1959? Yeah, that's what I thought.
@Island-Hermit-RP3 Wrong. Need to go study yourself some history. Massie Trial 1941.
I’ve lived there 10 years on Oahu. I’m very proud of that. Life changer. I studied Hawaiian language partially and took Hawaiian studies at Kapiolani CC and UH Manoa.
I do believe if you act obnoxious and loud your putting yourself out there.
This is a good video but continue to let the Aloha Spirit into your soul.
Like you three basically said, just be a good person when you're there and don't sink to the level of hateful people. It doesn't take much to treat Hawai'i with reverence and respect. Show everyone your intentions are honest and there should be no issues.
That's the simple secret.
@@livehawaii "Secret"?????
I have a Haole friend that grew up in Hawaii and went to school here. He was verbally abused here as a kid but thrived over it. He was respectful of the culture and won the hearts of the locals.
Yeah kill hoalie day was great wasnt it.....
You talk like that percentage of people is Hawaii alone
Lmao imagine having to do all that just to live peacefully
My girlfriend and I have been to Hawaii several times and the locals have always been wonderful! Have I seen some negative behavior? Of course, but such a small percentage, less than the mainland by far. Mahalo.
Don’t go to wainae (spelling)
From what I have gathered, tourists are welcome because they bring money and leave. But when you try to move there is where the problem begins. Some view mainlanders as taking their land.
Some hold that view. The much more common reason is that people don't really understand the culture and it rejects them. Of course the financial element plays a big part
I was born and raised Wai'anae before Hawaii became the 50th state. I am a local haole and had very few problems growing up in Wai'anae. I loved the people I grew up with and they treated me like ohana. I look back on my childhood and I wouldn't change a thing. I would do it all over again.
Great story! Mahalo.
Wow... awesome to hear!!
Times have changed.
Been to Hawaii several times (Oahu, Maui and Hilo) and have always been treated nicely. Lived there for 3 months in Honolulu, not a bad experience ever.
You probably tip correctly and are polite. A smile and manners goes way far down here.
It reminds me similar to the PNW, I was born and raised in the Coeur d'Alene, ID area and that's a big part of all I hear when I listen to other people talk about the Californians moving there ect. A lot of them aren't welcomed but then some are. Just depends on the people you are interacting with.
One day I plan on moving to Maui, I think the biggest thing I've learned from being here (it's the #1 relocating spot right now in the U.S.) is if you move somewhere then please don't try to change it, don't be rude to the locals that lived there prior ect.
Something that does make me somewhat sad for Hawaii is an article I read about how the beaches are slowly disappearing due to to people putting privacy fences up against the shores (I think it was a privacy fence, it's been a while since I read it, or maybe it was sand bags). Good article maybe look it up! It definitely caught my attention. To me people who live on an island are amazing, most of my family lives in Sardinia. Wherever you go just be kind and spread some good acts around.
I love to shove that part in people's faces. I had sooo many Republican friends tell me ohhhh Hawaii is sooo racist, this is America. Then COVID hits and boom all my Floridian friends are calling me like "now I know why you guys don't want anyone there". It's easy to say people are racist when they don't want you around until it happens to your own town that you love and care about. People come flooding in and turn your paradise to trash. It's really a sickness. I feel bad for Idaho.
Born and raised here. Everyone is welcome as long as you don't think you're going to move here and live off the land. We have way too many mainland homeless here using social services and resources that should be used for local families who need those resources. Plan to work at least two full time jobs if you want to have your own apartment otherwise prepare to rent a bedroom for about $1000 a month.
Hahaha you see you are what keeps the problem alive .....get a job ...no no no you yourself should live off the land...but let me guess you got a job too huh... homeless drug city. People can be an issue I agree but the people living off the land should be welcome ... There are plenty of fish in the sea ...and plenty land animal to hunt just dont hunt the mothers and let the children grow a certain size and theres food for all....only a concrete jungle needs money and for you to be a slave to a job....
I say to all kanakans and those who wish to live free ...fighht the system by not joining it.... To help with tv and stores ...roads and rule...just live hunt eat swim and die ...otherwise you are just like the white man
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom I say again ...to claim savage warriors and not kill the people you dont want there is the reason why it still goes on...plus the deals that the king g made with British entangled the takeover...ita sounds fucked up but either kill for the land or lose it...obvioulsy haolie gonna keep coming...plus forget the past cause thats not gonna help the future...come up with new ways or keep hating the take over .....its the equivalent to listening to blacks hate whites....they always say take me back to Africa....but did you know that most Africans dont like american blacks....twisted world we live in but hey noones going anywhere
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom what can you tell me of the meni huni
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom ok what island you stay
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom ever heard of the Barbary coast.....that was a main slave trade area ....and everyone were slaves ...white people and darker .....its in human nature to be dominant...and dominant always shifts but right now it is cleary obvoous where the power is planing to be....you sound like you want to be educated on things based on your backround and cultures happenings...but before you put faith in those that started it all....just remeber ....they started it all....and for the same reading that start is while theyll never finish....they ate prepared to kill or drag it out till whoever they occupy Dies out ...thats everywhere. Not just hawaii
I had locals give me that "look" a couple of times, but with most of them they are quite nice. My opinion is that if I spent 4 years in the military to protect ALL of the states of our country, I am entitled to visit and live anywhere I want to. I find respect goes a long way.
"Respect" is the most overused word in Hawaii. Everyone demands it, yet no one ever earned it.
Where was the respect for the natives?
Nice! I lived here for one year and I never had problems with the locals. I met some locals and they are wonderful, friendly and respectful people. It sad that some people have to deal with some locals who hate. Let's pray it gets better.
Very cool. I'm glad that's been your experience. It's been fun to stay in touch w/ you through your year.
@@livehawaii Thanks, Peter!
well said
We moved to Maui and stayed a year. We never felt like islanders discriminated against us; most people we’re kind and we moved because of the cost of living.
Maui is the most welcoming of haoles in my experience
I lived in Hawaii way back... over 30 years ago. I was immediately enchanted by the physical beauty, but it's no longer one of my favorite places to visit. I much prefer going to the Mediterranean now where there is less underlying animosity. As a gay person who already has had issues with ostracization in a society that is not fully accepting, I would not want to move anywhere that is also unwelcoming for even more reasons (IE: race, background, etc.). I remember one moment that stood out for me in Hawaii where my friend (a bit more flamboyant) and I were threatened and called "faggots" as we were walking down a very public, touristy beach (not even a "locals" beach). I wouldn't move to some of the Southern United States for the same reason: too much xenophobia, myopia and hostility and not enough Aloha. I fully understand why this attitude has risen in Hawaii and it's a sad state of affairs, but personally, I feel there are more friendly places to live with my background.
A lot of things have changed in 30 years that's for sure
@@livehawaii The harassment was around 10 years ago while visiting, but every year mostly gets better... and as you say above, the ultimate goal is to be more empathetic and compassionate to our fellow humans, no matter what their political persuasion, race, gender, etc. :-)
For every new person who moves here, moves a local or native out and raises all our costs. The outer islands do not want to become Oahu. We will fight that cause that's not what Hawai'i is about. We fight to preserve all things native that should be respected and kept for all future generations. It's a haole mentality that is to build, build, invest and make more money. When that is simply not our way.
Says someone with a Japanese persons last name who obviously was a transplant at some point....
@Erika5 good luck everyday people move here and most, don't last 6 months. Some may go 3-5 years and then leave. It's hard here. Wish you luck, you're gonna need it.
@@coloringforkids8634 I was born and raised Maui and I have Kanaka Maoli blood, yes I married a mixed local born Japanese boy. Some of our ancestors are foreigners and I still stand by my statement. People love Hawai'i and its people, but what happens when everything that makes Hawai'i, Hawai'i? When the Hawaiian people are gone it will no longer be Hawai'i.
Get over it.... We're coming and taking over.
Please keep fighting to prevent further desecration to Hawaiian lands !
You get what you give, give Aloha get Aloha.
Boooo not true ....aloha translates to guilt trip/taxation .....if I give its because I can afford to not because I owe you...because I apreciate you not because your land is "stolen"
@@safeplace6976 see that type of mentality will get you slapped
? That didn’t make sense
not true
@@royedwards51 very true that's what it's about that's why we respect the local hāole cuz they respect our culture and live it you guys on the other hand come here and disrespect us not even the local haoles like you guys cuz they know you guys are ignorant but than there are haoles who come here and respect us also but some act like they didn't do nothing but they usually give stink eye or talk to us smart than a local says something then they say we are racist
Welcome to the Hawaiian islands. I moved away from the islands in the 70’s. I landed in a Hawaïi-like place. I no tell where. Love you in Hawaii.
Been to Hawaii (Oahu) around 20 times over the years. Hawaiians are wonderful people from my experience. They are very proud of their culture and if you respect that and blend In you should be fine.
There is that word "respect" again. You can say that anywhere on the planet. Hawaii is not some "Holy ground" that needs to be bowed to every other step. SMH.
You sound like you have problems Jake if that’s what you took away from my comment. Having and showing respect means don’t act like an ass and be polite. Hope that clarifies it for you.
It’s so interesting to hear about whites experiencing racism. It’s like they’ve never been judged by the color of their skin before! Welcome to the party 😄🎉
Ignorant statement.
probably the only state where it's better to be black then white
It's not a skin color thing, despite what many people think. It's more of a demonstrable acceptance and embrace of local culture. That matters more than anything.
It’s so funny that the roles have flipped and true history is being revealed!
@@KentPetersonmoney such racism! Stay away.
Im from Alaska and we in Alaska have a very large integration of Islanders and we are very nice to them, when ever we go to Hawaii we are treated very nice for the majority. There are bad experiences but its from the ignorant ones, real people treat people real.
I went there for 2 weeks from the mainland believing it was spiritual and friendly. I was wrong. That is just honest.
Perhaps that was the spiritual lesson. Sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for
Tell me what you think the spiritual lesson could be and I'll chime in with my view of the lesson.
Different people have different experiences some are positive, some are negative. Regardless, it is difficult to draw a conclusion based on what you hear from a very small group of people, one way or another
There is no doubt a lot of "BS" but there is also a lot of pure bliss and endless gratitude about living in the most special place in earth. And that is the strongest evidence of a spiritual basis: the fact that the same place can have vastly different experiences for different people.
@@livehawaii I couldn't have been more humble and nice I really made an effort but was treated like an outsider. I almost left vacation early. I could feel it the moment I got on the plane in Denver Colorado
It is my dream to live in Hawaii, but I want to be able to live off the land and do my best to be respectful and take care of the island.
Not sure what's behind the "but".
Peter Kay Living in Hawaii that was a mistake sorry.
Nothing to be sorry about. Thanks for contributing
It will be very difficult to “ live off the land”. All land is owned and people get terribly upset if you decide to reside on their property and use their resources. Why not rent/purchase a place? If you have no money then please don’t come. You will only add to the burden of homeless people on the streets.
@@annettefujii7331 I would never want to be a burden. I would buy a place. but like I said its just a dream
This has gone on for years. Ask the military people!!! I know both sides of the coin. I bought my home here, after serving on O'ahu, for numerous years (more than 10) if you really need to know.
I think my saving grace (coming from Southern CA) was that I'm Native American with dark hair and dark eyes (as are my children) who also surf. In all our time on Oahu, we've never been treated badly, treated like "howlies". The Natives here on Oahu, have been Amazingly loving, gracious and kind and have blessed our lives beyond words. It's all about attitude.
Sad huh ...imagine if you were blondes hahahaha sounds like you are not blind
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom yep...... diffents words differant meaning
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom Oh please! Lilly White states are the safest places to live.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom My apologies for the misspelling
Katarina Carlos ------ You specified that you're "Native American with dark hair and dark eyes", as your "saving grace".
So, it's NOT "all about attitude", contrary to your own last line. It's PARTLY about attitude --- BUT --- as you yourself pointed out, your "saving grace" was your RACE AND COLOR.
Reassuring, I’m getting pretty close to making a go of it on the Big Island.
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Wayne Dollemore Thats my plan, I’m ready for the lifestyle change.
I was born or raise in hawaii I move here when I was in my 20s now in my 40 had my girls here one my daugther father born and raise in hawaii god rest his soul everyone was very kind and nice as long you didn’t disrespect them and there culture you be fine
The people who live in Hawaii are loving and inclusive!
Not so inclusive actually
You need to visit the outer islands and not just Oahu.
@@Eaglejake I have spent quite a bit of time on all the main outer islands. Local attitudes are hit or miss. I've never had any serious issues on any of the islands. It's not inclusive, like on Guam or Phillipines.
@@kennethboehnen271 Bro you guys took over our home, ya think we wouldn’t be to nice about it would ya?
@@cl1ps755 you're lucky China didn't get there first. All that happened before any of us were born. Same with the indians and all the US territories. The govt before our time is to blame. Don't blame people like me that had nothing to do with stealing land.
5:26 Bullshit dude, drive through Waianae at night with that SUV. Waimanalo is sketchy as fuck too. And you are wrong about Lanikai, there is simply no parking there and those houses have been there for 100 years. They just don’t want people parking in front of their driveway. That’s it.
Years ago I met a white girl in college who grew up in Hawaii. I said to her how lucky she was, she informed me how growing up being constantly bullied was not lucky. She was a quiet person and I dropped the subject.
Years later I vacationed in Hawaii and caught an unwelcomed vibe at times and then saw house for sale sign that the owner had placed with the phrase "never to a white" on it. Welcome to 1950 Alabama.
Since then I've spent many vacations in the Caribbean and a few in South Asia. Far better snorkeling and far better people. Hopefully Hawaii will regain its independence and, without US taxpayer's dollars, become the third world nation it deserves to be.
Right? How dare they? The US "helped" Hawaii by overthrowing their queen, turning them into Christians, banning their language, navigational techniques, and taking their lands. They should be thanking each and every one of us.
/sarcasm
@@drivehard2395 get your history right. First, native Hawaiians embraced Christianity on their own. Liholiho share a meal with Ka'ahumanu in 1819, well before any significant colonization. Certainly the US aided the overthrow. The destruction of Hawaiian culture was definitely driven by the Dole & Co in the decades afterward but you can't pin that on the US govt as Hawaii was only a territory until '59.
@@kimohana LOL.. my native friends on O'ahu taught me otherwise. Hawiians "embraced" christianity because missionaries shoved it down their throats. That is what I was taught by Hawaiians.
As far as the rest of "history" you are agreeing with me.... so... ?
You are nott disputing the banning of their language or preventing ocean navigation being taught.
So your only bone to pick is about Christianity, which tells me you are a Christian.
@@drivehard2395 just because you're native doesn't mean you know your history and clearly your native friends do not. The rest of your comments indicate you actually don't have a clue of what you're talking about and aren't worth my time. But I could be wrong - which books on Hawaiian history have you (or your native Hawaiian friends, for that matter) read?
@@kimohana Are you joking? I have no idea what they have read. LOL I'm not worth your time, yet here you are. Hilarious.
In Puerto Rico is going to down that path , outsiders buying house's near beaches and locals have been drived to the center of the island
Oahu has been ruined, other than parts of the Waianae side. Sugar and pineapple are gone. Almost 1,000,000 people on about 500 square miles. Japanese/Chinese/Filipino/Vietnamese/Samoan/Hawaiian Americans all protecting their own group. The competition is horrific for limited jobs. Everything costs too much. Oahu is not even a nice place to visit anymore. Even the other islanders hate Honolulu (the only times to go to Honolulu are to get high quality medical care, to catch an international flight, or to go to weddings and funerals. The place swarms with Asian and Haole tourists. Polynesian Hawaiians feel like their native land has been raped (and it has). Oh yes, with the tourists gone due to the pandemic, the locals are breathing sighs of relief despite being unemployed...
Your view is not one held by the majority of the people that live on Oahu.
Most people in the entire state are transplants.
Yes it’s ruined !
You touched on a subject that I appreciate Hawaii is an occupied territory and naturally the indigenous locals in particular are rather resentful of that understandably so I would be flipping the bird every day if I were an indigenous local living close to poverty line because of permanent tourists gentrifying my homeland.
Thank you for understanding our pain 🙏
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@@bn3807 you're not alone us Native Americans feel the exact same way over here in New Mexico and Arizona
@@kingslayer5380 it’s so frustrating. These guys are unbelievable!
@@kingslayer5380 Im so sorry for what you guys go through too. I feel your pain
We were at Kauai 3 times. Local people were super nice. Kauai is the paradise on Earth
There is a big difference from visiting and living there.
@@HM-yr1vr I understand that
I want to move to Hawaii. But I love not having to work and retirement super early. Lmao.
I'll keep vacationing.
That's the tradeoff!
Can you do a video on university’s in Hawaii?
Click the links in the description and give me a detailed question.
I feel that any country or culture has every right to react in a negative way toward a foreigner wanting to immigrate to their homeland (yes, I realize that Hawaii'i is still a part of the US. But I think the same thing can still apply to Hawaii'i as well for different reasons). This is the primary reason why I don't wish to immigrate to another country; I should not be living in some place where I am not a part of the local culture. Cultures, traditions, and racial demographics change because of immigration. And that's something that I totally do not wish to take part in.
1893 is 8 generations ago. 95% of the people voted to become a state, and part of the USA in 1959. No one alive experienced 1893 in Hawaii. Stop playing the victim and spare me the attitude if you consider yourself "local" in Hawaii. I don't care. Be fair. You be nice, and I'll return the favor. SMH.
@@Eaglejake It's not whether you'll return the favor or not. Show your attitude and you'll be going home crying... lol
rsuriyop ------ So, apparently you are opposed to any and all immigration.
Well, that's how the Earth was inhabited and populated. MIGRANTS spread all over the planet.
For example, POLYNESIANS (IM)MIGRATED TO HAWAII. Eventually they were called "Hawaiians".
@@gregcarter8656 You are thinking about the earliest days in human migration way before societies were fully developed and actual borders were even defined. Not exactly a good comparison.
@@rsuriyop At all points along the 300,000 year timeline of human activity, if a group (of whatever size) is currently in a "nice spot", then any nearby group(s) could be jealous and want to "move in" ("immigrate"). So, the same basic issues have ALWAYS been around. The only difference is that of scale.
All in all moving to Hawaii is not something that anybody should do you make things harder and more expensive for Hawaiians and locals who are actually born and raised here all of you guys know that
If you come to Hawaii, come with two things. Large amounts of money to afford the cost of living or a pre-arranged job that makes what it takes to live here plus money for a plane ticket home. We're getting too many guys/girls moving here with neither. Too many dreamers who hope that Hawaii is the panacea that will allow them to cure their bad habits and emotional difficulties. Wrong Jack. If you have a GED or are a dropout, we don't want you. If your work experience is in unskilled areas, we don't want you. If you have a substance abuse issue and think new place, new me, we don't want you. We got too many aimless drifters from the mainland that exacerbates our homeless problem. Sorry, the Aloha Store is closed.
Are you the Governor?
@@josephinetracy1485 no, just a native who can still afford to live here that has seen people who weren't prepared for the cost of living or planned on becoming homeless import chaos and wreak havoc on communities that never wanted them.
@@obhittinthree I've never even been to Hawaii, but what you wrote then is a proposal. However, I think we probably both realize that this country is a soft dictatorship. For example, President Bush dropped about 190,000 bombs on impoverished people to make money for the very same Wall Street war profiteers who had sponsored him. Then in 2008, people voted in President Obama to stop all of that, and he responded by dropping another 190,000 bombs on impoverished people to make money for the very same Wall Street war profiteers who has sponsored him. So the only way to make anything happen what would go counter to big profits is to seize control away from their deeply embedded structure, which is really hard to do.
I searched, "how to make musubis" and this came up. Interesting.
Yeah that is interesting
I’ve dreamed of moving to Hawaii for almost 20 years; the dream is really my way of coping with stress (it’s unlikely we’d move there). I think adopting the “When in Rome…” approach works in most places. Mean people suck, and they won’t change - go around them. No worries. 😉
I told my son if he doesn't stop ignoring me, I'm running away to Hawai'i !! And cuz it looks like the world is going to s*** and I jst wanna die happy
Do it.... I talk to my parents every day and bought a house 1.5 miles away from them. If your kid doesnt call you every day or at least once a week then take off and live your life. I wish my parents would have picked up and retired somewhere awesome like Hawaii. I would have followed them there in a heart beat. The only reason i havent moved there yet is because i would have to fly back all the time to see them and couldnt afford to do that. Once i move out there, there is no coming back. The next time i take that long of a flight it will be a one way for sure.
@@ginadelsasso288 My daughter doesn't call anymore. I am moving to Honolulu as soon as this Covid slows down. I had planned on leaving in March with my 2 bags and my slippas 🙏 I graduated high school at Radford high. I have been dying to go back. Finally got enough cash, and bam.. A dam virus ..
I have a video about how your family will be affected if you move here. I suggest you watch that
I won't be out for at least a year. I'm currently in San Diego & I love it here cuz it kinda reminds me of Hawai'i, i.e. more laid back compared to LA. I need to get moved outta my tiny box into a place w 1 bdrm so I can sort thru everything including my 5x10 storage. I figure also that gives my son enough time to get a different attitude, otherwise I'm leaving. I not gonna die heartbroken
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@@livehawaii Do you recall about how long ago?
Thanks for this video guys. I'm originally from Long Beach and lived in Hawaii for 20 years on several islands, Maui, Big Isle and Oahu. Most of the time it was fine, however there's a certain percentage of usually young local guys who hate us. I've had guns pointed at me twice when driving, screamed at and nearly run over just walking along the road in Kona, threatened in Lahaina, threatened surfing on Oahu. Ive had local girlfriends who were so sweet but with mean cousins. Through deep surfing roots I became pretty much local haole with respect for the people and land, but still got the hate vibs. I've had wonderful friends there. However, there's always that base racist tension. They hate us for taking it but if we weren't there to defend it in ww2 the Japanese would have murdered their grandparents and they wouldn't be here, just saying. It would be Japan and incredibly expensive. I wouldn't put my kids through the school system. They're Happa but it gets violent. So, even though I love Hawaii , there's always that feeling of hatred in the air. When those same locals get old they'll collect social security and maybe mellow out and just go catch some waves or go fishing. Hawaiians fought side by side with haoles defending the Pacific and dying. Whatever the history bras, localism and territorialism is still an ugly thing. Respect goes both ways. They should try not to be so entitled in the 21st century. I understand the history and apologise for the takeover, and the sovereignty movement has some merit, but Hawaii has a good locally elected state government that does a great job representing the people. Maybe just let life flow more like the trade winds. Don't blame every haole for the past, they're innocent. I love Hawaii and the local people. 💘 Aloha Nui Loa 💜🏝🌈🌊🌺🏄♂️🧡
So appreciate you sharing that!
"They hate us for taking it but if we weren't there to defend it in ww2..." something something, American militarism in the Pacific made Hawaii a target. WW2 happened 5 decades after the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom had many allies that would have helped defend it against an invasion. Hawaiians themselves are not innocent little children incapable of carrying a gun.
@@alelokaoseumu exactly
Except Japan would never bombed our grandparents if the US was never in Hawaii since Hawaii wouldn’t be part of the war
I always wanted to live in Hawaii. But you better respect me and call me Mr. haole
Nobody owes you anything,this isn't slavery for anyone to call you mr.
LOL :^) Nice sarcasm. The other reply didn't even catch the joke !
Here in Virginia, we Jeep beach people gravitate towards the 4wd Outer Banks, Corolla and Ocracoke Island beaches. It's a beautiful place, maybe not as much as Hawaii, but for reasons of distance, costs, racism nonsense and over crowding, I'll take the Outer Banks, NC over Hawaii any day of the week. 🏖😎 I wish everyone well and one day soon, we'll all be guests in God's beautiful Heaven where all hatred and racism doesn't exist. Maranatha o Lord 🕆 God bless brothers and sisters
I'm a realist. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Yes, if you show respect and Aloha you'll get respect and Aloha. That said, there's obviously a segment of locals in Hawaii that hold resentment to haoles no matter what. When haoles, I mean whites, behave that way it's called racism. Vid from Laird Hamilton and comments says alot: ua-cam.com/video/JewvDfYBGeQ/v-deo.html
That video is a real eye opener
Uncle, You miss the point. I stay Kaua'i and she is a fragile island and entirely over-stressed now. Stand apart from the real estate perspective for one day. Imagine how Kanaka Maoli felt to have this place stolen from them. Kama aina is not about being Ha'ole, or local Ha'ole, or anyone else. Living aloha is a respect and responsibility to the islands. Real estate is not a financial investment. Just try.
Aloha Parker and thanks for sharing. What, exactly, is the point that you think I'm missing?
I am here right now and yes there is a lot of that but there is so many good people , But my wife has been called a howly..and it really hurt her but .We love and respect Kauai and really want to move here..
There's no other place I'd rather live than in Hawaii. Saying that, there is an underlying prejudice against haoles here, in spite of what most locals will say out loud. Of course, there are really bad people everywhere, even in Hawaii. Try walking around the ghettos in Saint Louis or Baltimore or Chicago or New York at night - yipes. No thanks. For years, I avoided Waimanalo, but not any more. If you respect the Hawaiian culture, you'll fit right in. Aloha Nui Loa
Exactly! The more you embrace Hawaiian values, the more they will embrace you.
Visit then go home !! Don’t come back buying property !
People can't buy property unless someone is selling it to them. Are you blaming Hawaiians for selling out?
@@kimohana Im not blaming anyone. I’m just saying don’t buy in Hawaii. It hurts the native Hawaiians and locals too. I understand that people can do whatever they want to do but if you have any kind of heart you wouldn’t want to contribute to the struggle of the people who belong here. Why should they have to move out of their homeland so that outside transplants can move in! It’s wrong on every level
@@bn3807 not sure what you're implying here. can you explain? If Hawaiians don't sell, people can't buy. If Hawaiians DO want to sell, then if you're telling people they should not buy, you're hurting the Hawaiians who want to sell but now cannot. So are you telling Hawaiians that if they want to sell, they can only sell to other Native Hawaiians? What, exactly, would your policy be here?
@@kimohana most people that sells in Hawaii are not of Hawaiian blood and I think you know that Since the influx of outsiders buying up property and driving the housing cost up it next to impossible now for native Hawaiians to buy being that an average home in Hawaii is a million dollars ! It’s difficult for them to even afford the high cost of rent and
They are having to move to the mainland
@@bn3807 let's say you're right for discussion purposes. Most people that are selling their land in Hawaii are not of Hawaiian blood. So are you now telling those people that they can only sell their homes to Native Hawaiians?
And if we assume that Native Hawaiians were here since before statehood, why didn't they buy a home back then? If a person's geneology goes back hundreds of years, doesn't that imply that none of their ancestors ever bought? Or at least that their ancestors sold their home at some time?
Look, I get it, it's super sad that Hawaii has become so expensive that so many families have to leave. But so far, you haven't proposed any policy solution to the problem that actually makes sense.
Hi Peter, your channel is very informative, thus the reason I subscribed. My family and I visited Ohau twice in 2018 and absolutely fell in love with Waimanalo. I know this might be a tough question for you to answer, but how do Hawaiians feel about black people? I would really appreciate your feedback. Let me just add I felt really comfortable there with the exception of one minor incident that took place in downtown Honolulu. Thank you.
I'd say local attitudes towards blacks is about as colorblind a place as you'll see on earth.
Thank you Peter.
What evidence backs your claims?
@@livehawaii See "Hawaiian Dictionary" by Pukui and Elbert, 1986 edition, page 343.
The entry for PŌPOLO, meaning #1, says: "The black nightshade . . . Because of its color, pōpolo has long been an uncomplimentary term: see lepo pōpolo. In modern slang, Blacks are sometimes referred to as pōpolo."
@@gregcarter8656 and? "Popolo" is a well known term. Are you claiming that Hawaiians are racist because they refer to Blacks as "Popolo" ?
Hey Haole! Haole to you too. Westside
I would love to move to Hawaii if the HOA fees went like $1,400 per month. That means that even if you bought a place outright you would still have a $1,400/month payment.
I feel like you can never really own anything in Hawaii.
It depends what the HOA is for. We pay 900 dollars a month in HOA fee. However , the HOA covers EVERYTHING external of the home and landscaping. It dropped my home insurance from $400 (that was in The mainland) to $77 (here) a month. So almost got half my money back in return. There are affordable HOA fees. Not all of them are $1400 a month. Just got to keep looking around.
In my plan to take a look for 10 days, then in the future like after 7 months if I get a good tips to move I'll move.
I went to school in Hawaii. My issue is that it is open and even acceptable. To say hoale is not derogatory is a lie. In this video, PK said " sometimes people acted hoale" followed by chuckles. Use that same sentence with any other derogatory racist slur and it would not be acceptable.
On a side note, you can not discuss racism in Hawaii without mention the treatment of Micronesians.
it's all about context. if someone says "go to that haole guy at the end of the row", there's nothing wrong. if someone says "get out of my way you fracking haole", yeah that's bad. If someone says, "man, you turning haole!", that's more funny than anything.
@@livehawaii
I'm not holding you responsible. Its just there and it be nice if it wasn't.
thanks for adding that. I certainly agree that it can (and is) used in a derogatory way and definitely agree that it would be nice if it wasn't the case.
One has to wonder how the definition of Hauole (“without breath” in Hawaiian) got to be racist.
The only thing if I were to live in Hawaii is to get away from the state of new Jersey to relax and to destress,way too many crazy people in new jersey
And alot of tourists and locals not wearing masks in pahoa town. tina
It’s hypocritical to me. They want tourists out, but the state collapsed and jobs were lost at a record high when tourists were out due to COVID. So which fate do they want?
Many states collapsed. Many jobs were lost everywhere. Tourism is a major INDUSTRY here.
Whatever are you talking about fate?
Localism is not all bad. Wealthy people buy so many property and then housing is getting too expensive for the original people. So if you're not wealthy you better do something to keep your community liveable for the locals too.
To preface; I'm nearly half haole (English) from a part haole extended family and have dozens of close haole friends. Individually, they're all smart, humble, respectful, giving people, haole or not.
But let's be REAL here Peter Kay: you play the neutral skillfully, but deep down you're not unlike haoles that come here, move here, who think they're superior to "local" people. Most haole come and complain, complain, complain, that its not the paradise they saw in a brochure or in the the movies (starring all haoles of course). For them, it's poetic justice they had poor experiences, it's their attitudes that set the thesis of their visit. As they were raised to, they take, take, and take again, invest little in the community outside their own selfish personal interests, blurt out sweeping criticisms of the people, language, culture, foods, costs, traffic, roads, everything. Don't believe me?, it's all over UA-cam ... these imperious, entitled haoles fkng complaining, mostly young cocky ones who come here and expect locals to be their servants, worshippers of the white way. Funny how they don't confront us with their bullshit caterwauling in face to face. Actually, I did have one red faced drunk haole guy come up to me in 2015 while I was sitting down to a nice dinner with family at an open air restaurant saying, "You LOCALS think you're tough eh?". He and his group of drunk haoles were having a good laugh at our expense. I laughed too, until he grabbed my shirt, then the brief encounter ended swiftly with him comatose on the floor. They're always tough in groups these pricks... I asked if anyone else on his side if needed help ending their evenings too, ... no more laughing and no takers of course. It was stupid, and I'm not some wannabe violent badass type, until I'm incited. It's their kind of unchecked arrogance and belligerence that doesn't go over well with anyone, not just "locals". And by the way, Native Hawaiians like me, don't necessarily identify with the "locals" labelization. In Hawaii that term is a loose and often condescending fit for all generational migrant ethnicities that aren't haole; polynesians, asians, hispanics, the resulting blendings, etc. I didn't move here, I was born here, as were many ancestral generations in my family line. We Kanaka Ma'oli are the descendants of a truly amazing ancient bloodline who's culture and lands were outright stolen by the white man, who now expects us to be lie down to them when they come here talking loud , saying and doing incredibly stupid things. With this piece, you work under the framing of settling differences between cultures, but it feels lightly veiled. Our Aloha only goes so far Mr. Kay, so take care in what's being implied here. Aloha should NEVER be perceived as a weakness, it'll end very badly for those who think it is. Maybe you should direct your posts into imploring visitors to appreciate this place and not do or say anything stupid when they get here! Tell them, not ask them , to wise up.
I appreciate the time you took to share and clearly much of what you say is true. The more stories we have, the more full and accurate the picture is.
But make no mistake, you have absolutely no idea what I'm like "deep inside" and you also have no idea to the things I and my ancestors done to help Kanaka Maoli. Perhaps if you knew those things you might have said things different to me.
But my beliefs are being put on this channel one at a time and I welcome you to watch all of the other videos on my channel and you'll see I'm doing my best in my way to preserve our priceless culture and way of life.
Finally, you should know that I've have told more people than anyone else to not move to Hawaii - numbering in the thousands.
I'm glad you're here and welcome your comments. I know your heart is in the right place and I'm with you.
Boo hoo... Quit being jealous of Haoles.
Go do research and learn about the history of Hawaii. Don’t support greed !!
Lots of white people tryna sell others on the bs fact that “Hawaiians are the most racist they should be glad we destroyed everything they loved” it’s really ridiculous.
Haole means foreigner or outsider. I think theres a frustration between a healthy balance between tourism and locals living in Hawaii. Right now Hana Maui is awful with too many tourists in a small narrow road that cannot handle that kind of traffic. We need to find another industry besides tourism.
They've been saying that "we need to diversify our economy" ever since I first got here and that was in the 80s. That effort has been a complete failure. IMO until we're ready to dramatically cut back on tourism, and face the full negative consequences (people leaving, unintended consequences), we'll never get off tourism. But I will wager that people tied to the tourism economy, which is just about everyone, will (understandably) not want to go through that pain.
It is called "Last Haole Syndrome." I am the last one allowed, no more.. It's a Silly place regarding localism, and racism. Especially if one is an avid surfer.
You are in paradise guys. I no tell.
be Wise Attitüde is one of the keys to live anywhere included on the Moon
Are you welcome in Montana. If Montana had it's way they'd be their own country and Texas.
Eric and Donny Trump would be the presidents. Noooo thanks!
This is good stuff
Thank you for the kind words
Not good
no attitude no problem
Exactly
I am going to see if the Kona side is for me, visited Oahu...too many people and terrible traffic, went to Maui, loved it but not wealthy enough to live there, next will be Big Island. Too many years living through Alaska winters.
The cold weather did it for me, initially.
How expensive was Maui?
It's not "tourists" or "haoles", not all tourists are white. When we locals say Haole we usually mean white. I'm haole and fine with it unless someone says "f'n haole". Then I'm not ,in that context.
Thank you for adding that. Totally true!
I love Hawaii and agree that the vast majority of residents are quite nice and represent the Aloha spirit well. In fact, I'll be living there full time by October. Hawaii, like anywhere else on the planet, has it's share of less-than-stellar people. That said, the expectation that haoles need to act a certain way else the locals will give them the stink eye has always struck me as strange. Let's face it, wherever you go on this earth, you're a "haole" to the local population. But you don't get a lecture about it. Common decency and reciprocal respect should be universal. Haranguing haoles to behave differently in Hawaii implies people in Hawaii are more fragile, which ironically is a form of soft bigotry.
I advise you against carrying that belief. It's not the way things are here.
@@livehawaii Not exactly sure what you mean. Don't get me wrong...as a mainlander, I know I'm uptight. I hope and pray that Aloha washes over me after living there. I don't want to change Hawaii, I want Hawaii to change me. Just pointing out the fact that this topic of negativity towards haoles pops up more than once in a blue moon when discussing Hawaii. And yes, I'm aware of the history of Hawaii from Cpt. Cook to the present.
We have tourists in pahoa.And i can understand why locals feel this wayi Its the pandemic and lack of respect for the land.Locals see how the mainland is.
It is a territory of U.S. Any U.S. resident can move there.
I think you're missing the point. Anyone in the USA can also move to a small town in West Virginia where everyone knows everyone for generations, but that doesn't mean that move is a good idea
My wife and I got married in Kauai! The night before the wedding I had some drinks with the guys that came, a couple of locals came up asking where we were from, being a little aggressive. But we met their aggression with love and respect! They ended up telling us some good places to go and we invited them if they were ever in California to look us up and we would show them around. Love and respect for each other goes along way! We went back to Kauai for our honeymoon, our favorite place ran out of straws for the coconut Thai tea we liked! So we walked to the store down the street and bought a few packs of straws for them! We brought it back and they were so thankful! We score free coconut Thai teas for the rest of our trip! Love and respect again goes along way!
"Respect" is the most overused word on Kauai and the outer islands. "Aggressive" is met with aggression. Total BS from the locals. Anywhere else on the planet, and there will be problems. "met with love and respect"??....why?
Hahaha see how manipulative politics saved your ass...other wise you get taxed hoalie
@@Eaglejake hahahahahaha I see it like this they argressed hoping for a chance to fight and then say stupid howlie leave our island ...or they agress be punking somebody is how they like to live because you might some free items or ass licking from those who fear. Heres an idea when somone comes out of nowhere saying you better respect them ....you can turn around and tell them respect isnt just given...its earned...and either they turn political on you and show you "respect" or they continue to try to punk you.... And at those points either make em a political target or take em out as the threat they pridefully prove to be.....
Haole actually has a meaning it is the opposite of Aloha which is the breath of life/love.. Haole is the taker of life/love.. It means the breathless. Which is pretty offensive if you ask me.
The only problem is it doesn't mean that at all. You are repeating an urban myth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haole
Well that settles it!
It also means “foreigner” in addition to “without breath”. It doesn’t mean taker of life/love. MISINFORMATION ALERT!
Peter give us an update on the Hurricane in Hawaii.
we made it safely! not even a scratch! so lucky!
Scott said there’s not a single neighborhood he feels uncomfortable going to being born and raised currently living in Hawaii that isn’t accurate there are places where it is not safe for him to go certain streets he should not walk down even in the middle of the day don’t go advertising that before you get people hurt it just shows that there are places you have not been
Mahalo nui loa for that guys!
You're welcome!
Be safe!
Keep us in your prayers. So far so good
Wife’s family lives in Oahu since the 70s they are Lao. Been going to Maui and Oahu for 14 years. The last few times I have visited both and have had people confront me and tell me to leave. I am ex military and people assume I am still in. I am always friendly and when I stay in the resorts I like to wake up early and get coffee and I like to chat to employees and ask about them. Last time it was really bad. Everyone I spoke to make quick one answer reply’s. I would ask how was their day. Or any plans on their days off? All blank faces. Many times I have been to places on the island that most mainlanders don’t visit in general. Being with my wife locals think she is from Hawaii and it shields me. I get the hate. I live in Oregon and we have problems with the city people visiting the burbs and hanging out in the malls and shopping areas . It’s so bad anywhere you go is always busy and it’s hard to find spots or times to be alone or with the same people. I just don’t say anything. Anyone I have met from Hawaii I tell them I could tell them to go back home but I don’t. I remind them to think of the same when mainlanders visit Hawaii.
Oh great. My sons live there
His going to be fine!!🤙🤙
Technically... if you have no Hawaiian blood in you , your considered a haole. Full blooded Hawaiian Kanaka , extremely rare but there are a few. Half blooded hawaiian any race "Hapa Haole. Not in an offensive way. The Hawaiian word for a person with no Hawaiian blood" is Haole. Its unfortunate that most of the people that took advantage of the Hawaiians were white men "Haole" and that's how we come to know the meaning of the word now. Hawaiians knew about all the other races and have Hawaiian names for each race , and they didn't name each race out of hate or disrespect. Majority of Hawaiians are Hapa Haole, but we're all brought up to know respect. For one another, the land ,the ocean, and our fresh water sources. If anyone tries to take or destroy that there not a Haole there pilau.
Most of the people that take advantage of Hawaiians are ----------> OTHER HAWAIIANS.
Same thing for every race. The greatest threat comes from within. You are your own worst enemy.
You just bought a condo....they the locals just lost their house (ie the one you just bought).
And you wonder why they don't want you there. I 100% side with the natives
Do you know the people that sold it? Do you know what they did with it? Do you know why they sold it? Why do you automatically assume they somehow "lost" it?
@@livehawaii Mate I'm a LOCAL/native myself, don't even try!!!!!!
@@livehawaii hilarious
But you really got dah word hoale down ah hoale 😂
You got to say the word right.
Hey Hawaiian! Hey Asian! Hey Black! I think all would be considered rude by the person it was directed at.
Small island. More people here equals higher prices. Where is our Keiki going to live???
It's a problem.
From the mainland- I've been fortunate enough to have visited Big Island 2x. I do want to return when this Covid thing gets under control, if ever. It is incredibly beautiful and everyone I encountered was unbelievably friendly (except the 2 that attempted to rob our vacation rental ;), attempted). The crowding/traffic/high COL is not unique to HI. The "problem" is the same everywhere, overpopulation/overdevelopment. Just here in central CA commuters have turned a 2hr drive into a 4hr commute because jobs in the bay area don't pay enough to live there. Living in HI? Great place to visit but not for me. It IS an island and for me I like to just hop in a car and go. I've heard people go to HI just to be homeless in paradise. Wonder if that will change with the new True-ID law going into effect.
Sad truth.
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Apparently even the people who move to the islands see the need to reduce the influx of nonresident population. Face it the islands are very finite in available land to accomadate a growing population. As more and more land is developed it reduces the quality of the beauty of Hawai'i. It's not so much about rejecting as it is about preserving.
Yes, because now that I've moved here, I don't want anyone else moving here!
@@livehawaii look at the statement it's the newly arrived that is making them as well as the people who've been there generations. It's not because people are " unwelcome" it's because there is only so much development that it's unsustainable. Part of the reason people love the islands is it's natural beauty. Further development will only erode this quality.
I don't disagree with what you're saying. We live in Hawaii because of its natural beauty. However, the current approach of not allowing development is also sending home prices through the roof which makes it ultimately unaffordable for the very local people that we want to have homes for. Ironically, limiting development forces out locals makes it so that only the wealthiest can afford to live here. At the same time, you can't also develop like crazy. my point is, it's a really complicated issue.
@@livehawaii Yeah, you stole the indians land,and your boy trump want to build a wall,and keep so call illegals out,as if whites aren't the biggest illegals their is.
Kauaʻi is über INTENSE and localised!
I can see how some locals dont want more people here because more people means more modernization, more roads, houses and less 'Aina and less sacred land that holds special mana(spiritual power ). Im a local braddah my self and i feel like everyone should have an opportunity to feel and enjoy Hawai'i because it truly is a unique and very special place unlike anywhere else in the world i just would like to see everyone help to take care and preserve the few sacred grounds our hawaiian culture has left. Hawai'i islands is what makes us Hawaiian and if we loose this we loose who we truly are...much love to you all hope you guys are truly blessed and keep on keeping on. #Yessahblessah🤙🤙💯🌺👌
I'm so glad so said that. It's EXACTLY what I'm trying to do! We need to protect what makes Hawaii so precious and recognize that the foundation is the Hawaiian culture and values. Right on!
Just one more reason not to go to Hawaii. Might be better if the US cut it loose and let Hawaii fend for itself. I certainly will never put foot on it.
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You are trying to soften the word haole - I grew up in Kaneohe - public school all the way to Kalaheo grad. It is not a term of endearment. I was full on involved as a kid with only locals, my family went to 'nalo parties a long time ago at Pahinuis, and lots of other old school connections. Windys Drive Inn, Waikiki theaters, dominos and hand ball in Waikiki - just to say I was there from the late 60s. There are good people and bad people. I was a super chill nice kid, no problem in HS, but elementary in the 1970s was bad. Castle in the 70s was bad as siblings went there. It was full on racism and nothing you could do. It was a herd mentality and I learned quick to navigate. I am all good, not a victim. When you are allowed to surf at only certain spots unless you go with a local friend, it is sad. Don't sugar coat these cowards. The true local friends were awesome but the whole idea that you must show respect and have to walk on eggshells because of your skin color is a joke in the USA - like it or not it is a better place because of the USA. It is what it is, but the place has 3x more people from then and the congestion is stressful. I live on the mainland now, but visit - nothing is the same - all the hang outs gone and seems like everyone I talk to for real are sick of traffic, costs and trying to get to Vegas or out. If you already have a generation of family there like me, is fine. But think of moving to an Indian reservation, same thing - you will never be an Indian so you have to just observe a lot and go a along with a lot of ignorant BS. But when you find the true people with aloha spirit, it is very good. My ancestor served Kamehameha as Chief Justice for many years. But I am still a haole and it is used as "foreigner" imo.
Well said. You grew up in the "Kill Haole Day" and "Kill Jap Day" era. Much of that is different now but it's not gone. As a mainland haole I was fortunate to learn local culture and never had a problem but I know that's the exception.
@@livehawaii Last day of school and december 7
@livehawaii I will add that there is a vast difference between people who were born and raised versus coming to Hawaii as an adult because you don't have the normal adolescent dynamics typical in schools regardless of location such as bullying and just general hormonals. That is where the racism lived in 20 somethings and down. All kids go through navigating systems but when you add the specific hurt of racism that is why it was so different. But some fat people will say they were fat shamed and other people will say whatever so it is what it is and I am stronger for it.
That's a really really good point. I had the "normal" challenges of an adolescent in a public school, but back then race was just not a factor at all. We used to make fun of each other's nationalities, but that's about as far as it went. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been when you overlay the whole race thing in schools.
You don't have to go to Hawaii for hate and verbal abuse. Just go to the mainland...