Very interesting perspectives. I. have to say that the subject of Feminism vs Being Feminine has been discussed a lot by my daughter and me over recent days. Our belief is that the feminine arts are less appreciated nowadays because of the Feminist Movement. The Feminist Movement has become the task master of turning women into men. Nothing about femininity is valued. Rather, it is abhorrent and disgusting to almost everyone these days. It’s very sad. More is expected of women and men aren’t appreciated at all. Everything seems to be turned on its head. This is not good, but if it is mentioned by a man, then he is called a sexist and worse. When a woman says it she is called lazy and weak, and a host of other nasty words. This is terribly disturbing, and just plain wrong. I’m glad I watched this video. It was very enlightening. Thanks.
That final quote is so beautiful. Especially the part of the same note played on different strings/instruments. My husband and I have wrestled alot in this arena of balance. Admittedly, I've been fighting for acknowledgement and balance from the typical vantage point of masculinity. 😅 This has caused me to feel divided within myself. I think my husband values feminity but just wasn't taught or doesn't know how to express that in a way that helps me feel valued. 😅 Similarly, I wasn't necessarily taught to value femininity either. I was taught to compete and get an education, with little emphasis on preparation for a future motherhood. I married at 30 and had our last child 4 years ago at 42. I wouldn't recommend holding off motherhood to all you young adult women with a bucket list of life experiences to get through. No other roles have helped me feel more secure in my identity than becoming a wife and then mother in this life. It was a privilege for me to marry. My husband isn't a member of the Church. We've had our struggles and have been through some hard life circumstances together. Thank you Jacob for gifting me new glasses to see through. I think it's time to demonstrate to my husband what Gospel femininity should actually look, but more importantly, feel like. I feel resolved to dedicate myself more to that role now. My children could do with the ceasefire in our home. 😬 I'm looking forward to turning over a new leaf and exploring that side of myself that I know exists but that's been kept hidden away in shame for too long. 🫠 (I worked for almost a decade in law enforcement - where I met my husband - so that masculine mindset has trickled down into my marriage and mothering style over the years). I think my children will be pleased with a newer, softer version of me. 😅 And I think it's important for my sons (and daughters) to see that healthy contrast in our home.
This was a very insightful way of looking at the feminist movement. Here are some other ways I thought of about how our unique LDS view supports this framework: 1. Exaltation, or perfection, is ONLY found within a celestial partnership of man and woman, in which they become one, and the joining of man and woman is the culminating ordinance. So the partnership and melding of the masculine and feminine is central to the entire plan of exaltation. 2. We believe that Heavenly Father is also an exalted being, and thus we have a heavenly mother. Therefore God represents a balance of the masculine and feminine. 3. We also tend to believe historically that the knowledge of the feminine has been removed from Christianity, which explains some of the shift/corruption in values towards the masculine and away from the feminine. 4. We also believe that this life is the continuation of a spiritual war that began before this world was created, and that Satan is that opposing force. And one of the defining things about Satan is that he is a man, and he will never be able to marry. He therefore will always tend to skew towards masculine traits because he rejected a body and the ability to have a family. 5. Celibacy of leaders has never been practiced in our faith, quite the opposite, in order to be a leader one must be married.
@@k2peek Feminine traits aren't bad, And it's not like it's an all or nothing you must be masculine or feminine. And we all are trying to get to the same place, which is to be like Christ.
Much of feminism hinges on the denial of the complementary biological differences between men and women, especially evolutionary psychology. Gender roles have been proven to be the product of *choice* (e.g., careers in egalitarian countries as cited by Jordan Peterson). Woman being dependent on men for physical protection and necessities is not inherently bad. Patriarchy, defined as men righteously leading the family and other roles in society, is likewise optimal for human development. Women also have roles in leadership. Both men and women pursuing education and employment is fine as long as it does not supersede the family (e.g., men can focus too much on success rather than family relationships, women being separated from their children has measurable adverse effects on their development), and it contributes to greater flourishing and enrichment. The Industrial Revolution led to men being separated from their families, when previously they would teach skills to their children
@@kevins4254 I said it’s not *inherently* bad. If the husband is abusive, the woman has the right to divorce him and have financial compensation. A good example of this is ancient Hebrew marriage customs
@@professorchimp1 Women being on their own isn't inherently bad, either. A married man and woman are not on equal footing if he has more education, work experience, and social networking. It can be extremely hard for a woman to leave a relationship when she is financially dependent on her husband. I believe in Biblical marriage but IMO the LDS Church goes way too far in suppressing women. Which ancient Hebrew customs are you talking about?? Polygamy??
Jacob, you are good at explaining complex ideas. You have a gift for that. Thank you for your commitment to the restored gospel. You are blessing many peoples lives.
I would urge a better study of 1st wave feminism. Yes they achieved some goals of equality. But the same goals of todays feminists were also the goals of the 1st wave feminists. Janice Fiamengo and several others demonstrate this bautifully but you can also simply go read the 1st wave feminists themselves. We should be careful not to equate the results with the totality or sum of their goals.
Great content! As a 66-year-old woman whose whole life was exposed to feminism, and found most of it pretty repulsive, this video created a lot of clarity with how feminism is so manipulative. I love the word womanism.
Indeed they should have equal voting rights because to yet are human and should have equality in the law and opportunity. This was the first sentence in the videos. However, “feminism” is different.
Fantastic! Very helpful in clarifying what I’ve been thinking about and trying to better define for years! What could also be stated- is how feminism is now so strongly tied to and promoted by Marxism and has become toxic tribalism. But that’s a whole other can of worms. Keep ‘em comin’!
Hey Jacob! I saw that you included a link to Rachel's channel in the description, but I didn't see one for James Cussen's channel or the video you used. Just wanted to point that out in case it was an oversight!
Does anyone know where to get that statistic from Martin Seligman (the father of positive psychology) is where he compared how happiness has declined since the 1960s (especially for women?).
I would say the rise in depression comes from a confluence of factors, including the loss of men's roles in society. One of the biggest issues has been the rise of social media, which ironically isolates people more than it brings them together. This has only been further exacerbated by the lockdowns during Covid, so that people who weren't already isolated were forced to become so. With social media also comes the 24/7 news cycle injected directly into your feed, and we all know how rare it is that anything positive makes the news. Prior to Covid, the demographic most likely to embrace social media was young men, young men who, consciously or not, felt the impact of the loss of their traditional roles in society in the form of aimlessness and a lack of future prospects for employment, marriage, or even basic friendship. Men who, by and large, didn't fit the masculine archetype that well to begin with and couldn't keep up in a society that increasingly valued it to the exclusion of feminine values. Men who now only had connections with the rest of humanity through social media, which only shows manicured versions of other people and depressing news of societal collapse that they'd never notice if they went outside and touched grass. There's a reason the rise of hyper traditionalism and the alt-right coincides so strongly with the proliferation of social media. We also can't ignore the loss of church as an influence in people's lives. Like Redeemed Zoomer often says, the church, whichever version that happens to be for you, has historically been the town center and gathering place, the place where you'd meet friends and start a family. With more and more people leaving church and many churches (especially evangelical churches) turning into megachurches where personal relationships with other people or the pastor are nigh impossible and the entire thing is just a calculated stage performance with no intimacy or warmth, it's no wonder this avenue of social interaction has disappeared.
I agree with your thoughts. I have also noticed a dramatic shift in television and movies and the power roles of men and women. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when the men were still portrayed as strong leaders in their homes and at work. What we have today is just the reverse where we see men reporting to women who have the power positions and women definitely act more masculine. If there were more men in media who acted strong and confident it could help balance out the issue. Young men in particular need strong male roles in their lives. Having raised 2 boys myself it was always a great motivation to me to try to set a proper balance of strength and compassion along with reason and love. Unfortunately, both television and movies tend to portray men as either clowns (not to be taken seriously), or in need of guidance by a woman who is beautiful, confident, and powerful (and always has the answers). This unbalanced view of men and women can cause impressionable young men to not see masculine rolls as something to embrace and follow. I guess I miss the old days of men portrayed in masculine rolls and women as nurturing and loving and the person who can wipe away your tears.
@@stevehumble8865 In addition to all that is the plague of p0rn, which usually causes marriages then families to fail. Thus compounding conditions for increased depression and things that also cause it to increase.
This explains why the misogyny of the early 1900s was so high. It seems like it was a reaction from some men to being forced to compete with women for the first time in history rather than work with them. Now that the misogynists have been completely subdued, men no longer complain about having to compete with women. But it’s definitely been very detrimental to our birth rates and mental / physical health. I agree with the suggestion of this video, the answer is for society to begin valuing femininity in women again. Similarly, value masculinity in men too
CS Lewis, in Mere Christianity, touches on the differences between MEN and WOMEN... He suggests that if the neighbor's dog were to bite one of your children, it would probably not be a good idea to have "Mom" go over to the neighbor's house to handle it... No, send "Dad" as he would talk it over and handle the situation much differently!😂
Its a flaw in general Christianity that they deny SUBMISSION as crucial because they fear offending women when the submission of Christ to the Father is the model for men ... BOTH are to submit to the mission of family unto God
For a couple of wonderfully articulate women who have been discussing this for a while check out Louise Perry (Maiden, Mother, Matriarch book The Case Against the Sexual Revolution) and Mary Harrington (Reactionary Feminist book, porcast and substack)
The problem with Green Berets is they arent Marines who are thoroughly reconditioned to MISSION priority ... thats why they suffer casualties so disproportionately
Would like a link to the guy with long hair’s video on this topic. Not saying I don’t appreciate your comments that are interspersed, but I’d like to see the source material without interruption.
Since Jacob apparently doesn't read comments or do normal things like link people to a video he uses in his own, for those wondering, here is the video on womanism that was used: ua-cam.com/video/zGToXvvkKgA/v-deo.html
Like the “collective witness,” this is the prioritization of a particular viewpoint and its application across time and place. It’s ironic that a self-professed anti-Marxist would resort to similar historical and rhetorical tools as Marxist historians.
The Post Millennial Man is a Christian guy with a small channel, but he does any excellent job describing what Biblical marriage should look like. I encourage you to check him out.
A full episode on Feminism; and not one mention of hormonal contraceptives? Or baby-deleting? I’d advise the listener read “Sex and Culture “ by JD Unwin and “Decline of the West” by Oswald Spengler.
On the podcast "Whatever" a guy (forgot his name) pointed out that women only have rights as a result of the benevolence of men. If all men decided that women do not have rights, there is nothing women could do about it. Not saying that should be the case of course, but pointing out that the fact that they do say a lot about men where women DO have rights. And to point out that we are inherently not equal. I love that it was a MAN that came up with the idea of Feminism. It makes sense as feminism sounds like it was made up by men. I often say it was created in 1950's by 5 frat boys after a night of partying and drinking in a frat house common room. They jokingly decided to make a feminist manifesto as a way to fool women into doing what men want w/o women knowing it is what men want. The pill, abortions, protesting nude, posing nude in movies to advance their careers, becoming the bread winners, not wanting children. The frat boys accidentally dropped the manifesto on campus and a female student picked it up thinking was legit.
Would love to see Andrew Wilson & Jacob Hansen do a podcast together. Andrew Wilson can be "aggressive" (he's the best at debating) but it would very intellectually stimulating.
Which man do you believe came up with feminism? I'd look up Victoria Woodhull to really go back to the start of the modern movement and who she influenced from there. Men were involved for sure, but it would be a tall task to find a man who is credited with implanting those ideas. What's more accurate is that men heard they could have far less responsiblity if they went al9ng with feminism and it spoke to their carnal nature the way it does to a woman's carnal nature and that resulted in support from men.
I completely disagree with equality of opportunity. I do not believe the military should have an equal opportunity for men and women. Men should be fighting wars, not women, regardless of how capable a woman can be in combat. Same for certain jobs and careers. Women shouldn't be doing highty dangerous jobs or that require heavy labor. Men and women should have some specific roles and they should not intersect at all.
I think you are mixing equality of opportunity with equality of outcome. When people talk about equality of opportunity, they just mean we shouldn't be placing artificial barriers on people's opportunities for success because of their gender. And the interesting thing is, that as societies erase those barriers, men and women naturally fall into very distinct categories by gender lines, because it is natural for men and women to want to pursue different things.
@@stephtimms1776 I'm not sure what you are referring to. But people make choices every day that get them killed, part of having freedom is that you have to be responsible with how you use it. The real problem is when people are being coerced into things that get them killed.
I would add that men are partly to blame for it as well. Perhaps if men had celebrated womanhood more and celebrated it properly...perhaps feminism would have been less attractive.
@@mylesmarkson1686 I suspect if you counted the books written, the talks, speeches, classes, and conversations on the topic...you'd find that women are overwhelmingly more "obsessed" with the topic. And not ALL women of course...some women are busy...being women.
Also, I realize UA-cam is a game and there is an algorithm to feed in order to get your content out there. But I wish you wouldn’t use such clickbait titles. There are other ways to play the game. Please don’t devolve into the same fear/anger based emotional manipulation to get people to watch your videos.
Oh so I see you are a Boyd K follower! I'm a feminist and their is absolutely nothing wrong with it! Men, like you can't handle a strong, intelligent, Independent woman. So grateful my husband loves that I can carry my own!!!!
Jacob won’t have you on because he is afraid you’ll tell the truth and expose the church - that should tell everyone all they need to know about Jacob and his church. They need to meet the real Jesus ❤
Very interesting perspectives. I. have to say that the subject of Feminism vs Being Feminine has been discussed a lot by my daughter and me over recent days. Our belief is that the feminine arts are less appreciated nowadays because of the Feminist Movement. The Feminist Movement has become the task master of turning women into men. Nothing about femininity is valued. Rather, it is abhorrent and disgusting to almost everyone these days. It’s very sad. More is expected of women and men aren’t appreciated at all. Everything seems to be turned on its head. This is not good, but if it is mentioned by a man, then he is called a sexist and worse. When a woman says it she is called lazy and weak, and a host of other nasty words. This is terribly disturbing, and just plain wrong. I’m glad I watched this video. It was very enlightening. Thanks.
Strawman
THIS IS EXCELLENT! thank you Jacob and Rachael! The world is starving for femininity. I hope we can learn to value it again
1:42 I will forever now call myself a womanist and not a feminist
That final quote is so beautiful. Especially the part of the same note played on different strings/instruments. My husband and I have wrestled alot in this arena of balance. Admittedly, I've been fighting for acknowledgement and balance from the typical vantage point of masculinity. 😅 This has caused me to feel divided within myself. I think my husband values feminity but just wasn't taught or doesn't know how to express that in a way that helps me feel valued. 😅 Similarly, I wasn't necessarily taught to value femininity either. I was taught to compete and get an education, with little emphasis on preparation for a future motherhood. I married at 30 and had our last child 4 years ago at 42. I wouldn't recommend holding off motherhood to all you young adult women with a bucket list of life experiences to get through. No other roles have helped me feel more secure in my identity than becoming a wife and then mother in this life. It was a privilege for me to marry. My husband isn't a member of the Church. We've had our struggles and have been through some hard life circumstances together.
Thank you Jacob for gifting me new glasses to see through. I think it's time to demonstrate to my husband what Gospel femininity should actually look, but more importantly, feel like. I feel resolved to dedicate myself more to that role now. My children could do with the ceasefire in our home. 😬
I'm looking forward to turning over a new leaf and exploring that side of myself that I know exists but that's been kept hidden away in shame for too long. 🫠 (I worked for almost a decade in law enforcement - where I met my husband - so that masculine mindset has trickled down into my marriage and mothering style over the years). I think my children will be pleased with a newer, softer version of me. 😅 And I think it's important for my sons (and daughters) to see that healthy contrast in our home.
This was a very insightful way of looking at the feminist movement.
Here are some other ways I thought of about how our unique LDS view supports this framework:
1. Exaltation, or perfection, is ONLY found within a celestial partnership of man and woman, in which they become one, and the joining of man and woman is the culminating ordinance. So the partnership and melding of the masculine and feminine is central to the entire plan of exaltation.
2. We believe that Heavenly Father is also an exalted being, and thus we have a heavenly mother. Therefore God represents a balance of the masculine and feminine.
3. We also tend to believe historically that the knowledge of the feminine has been removed from Christianity, which explains some of the shift/corruption in values towards the masculine and away from the feminine.
4. We also believe that this life is the continuation of a spiritual war that began before this world was created, and that Satan is that opposing force. And one of the defining things about Satan is that he is a man, and he will never be able to marry. He therefore will always tend to skew towards masculine traits because he rejected a body and the ability to have a family.
5. Celibacy of leaders has never been practiced in our faith, quite the opposite, in order to be a leader one must be married.
Good stuff, but I disagree w/ #3. I've noticed an encouragement of men to embrace some feminine traits.
@@k2peek Feminine traits aren't bad, And it's not like it's an all or nothing you must be masculine or feminine. And we all are trying to get to the same place, which is to be like Christ.
Jacob I believe you could make a series of videos delving into like a dozen of the topics you two touched on in this video. Loved this!
Much of feminism hinges on the denial of the complementary biological differences between men and women, especially evolutionary psychology. Gender roles have been proven to be the product of *choice* (e.g., careers in egalitarian countries as cited by Jordan Peterson). Woman being dependent on men for physical protection and necessities is not inherently bad. Patriarchy, defined as men righteously leading the family and other roles in society, is likewise optimal for human development. Women also have roles in leadership. Both men and women pursuing education and employment is fine as long as it does not supersede the family (e.g., men can focus too much on success rather than family relationships, women being separated from their children has measurable adverse effects on their development), and it contributes to greater flourishing and enrichment. The Industrial Revolution led to men being separated from their families, when previously they would teach skills to their children
Women being dependent on men can be extremely harmful. It depends on how the man treats the woman and cares for her.
@@kevins4254 I said it’s not *inherently* bad. If the husband is abusive, the woman has the right to divorce him and have financial compensation. A good example of this is ancient Hebrew marriage customs
@@professorchimp1 Women being on their own isn't inherently bad, either. A married man and woman are not on equal footing if he has more education, work experience, and social networking. It can be extremely hard for a woman to leave a relationship when she is financially dependent on her husband. I believe in Biblical marriage but IMO the LDS Church goes way too far in suppressing women.
Which ancient Hebrew customs are you talking about?? Polygamy??
Patriarchy is men leading and having power, has nothing to do with whether they use power righteously
I have thought this for years but have not been able to adequately articulate it the way it has been expressed here. Thank you!
Really brilliant! Loved it. Made me really ponder something that has been on the edge of my consciousness, but defying verbal expression.
Jacob, you are good at explaining complex ideas. You have a gift for that. Thank you for your commitment to the restored gospel. You are blessing many peoples lives.
Brett McKa, creator of the Art of Manliness podcast/blog was quoted here. Love it!
This was excellent Jacob. Thank you!
I would urge a better study of 1st wave feminism. Yes they achieved some goals of equality. But the same goals of todays feminists were also the goals of the 1st wave feminists. Janice Fiamengo and several others demonstrate this bautifully but you can also simply go read the 1st wave feminists themselves. We should be careful not to equate the results with the totality or sum of their goals.
Janice does great work.
This is so good that it requires multiple viewings.
Great content! As a 66-year-old woman whose whole life was exposed to feminism, and found most of it pretty repulsive, this video created a lot of clarity with how feminism is so manipulative. I love the word womanism.
Women voted on April 6 1830
Indeed they should have equal voting rights because to yet are human and should have equality in the law and opportunity. This was the first sentence in the videos. However, “feminism” is different.
Where is the link for the other video that you quote?
Fantastic! Very helpful in clarifying what I’ve been thinking about and trying to better define for years! What could also be stated- is how feminism is now so strongly tied to and promoted by Marxism and has become toxic tribalism. But that’s a whole other can of worms. Keep ‘em comin’!
Hey Jacob! I saw that you included a link to Rachel's channel in the description, but I didn't see one for James Cussen's channel or the video you used. Just wanted to point that out in case it was an oversight!
There’s so much more to say about the evils of feminism, but this is a good start.
Does anyone know where to get that statistic from Martin Seligman (the father of positive psychology) is where he compared how happiness has declined since the 1960s (especially for women?).
I would say the rise in depression comes from a confluence of factors, including the loss of men's roles in society. One of the biggest issues has been the rise of social media, which ironically isolates people more than it brings them together. This has only been further exacerbated by the lockdowns during Covid, so that people who weren't already isolated were forced to become so. With social media also comes the 24/7 news cycle injected directly into your feed, and we all know how rare it is that anything positive makes the news. Prior to Covid, the demographic most likely to embrace social media was young men, young men who, consciously or not, felt the impact of the loss of their traditional roles in society in the form of aimlessness and a lack of future prospects for employment, marriage, or even basic friendship. Men who, by and large, didn't fit the masculine archetype that well to begin with and couldn't keep up in a society that increasingly valued it to the exclusion of feminine values. Men who now only had connections with the rest of humanity through social media, which only shows manicured versions of other people and depressing news of societal collapse that they'd never notice if they went outside and touched grass. There's a reason the rise of hyper traditionalism and the alt-right coincides so strongly with the proliferation of social media. We also can't ignore the loss of church as an influence in people's lives. Like Redeemed Zoomer often says, the church, whichever version that happens to be for you, has historically been the town center and gathering place, the place where you'd meet friends and start a family. With more and more people leaving church and many churches (especially evangelical churches) turning into megachurches where personal relationships with other people or the pastor are nigh impossible and the entire thing is just a calculated stage performance with no intimacy or warmth, it's no wonder this avenue of social interaction has disappeared.
I agree with your thoughts. I have also noticed a dramatic shift in television and movies and the power roles of men and women. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when the men were still portrayed as strong leaders in their homes and at work. What we have today is just the reverse where we see men reporting to women who have the power positions and women definitely act more masculine. If there were more men in media who acted strong and confident it could help balance out the issue.
Young men in particular need strong male roles in their lives. Having raised 2 boys myself it was always a great motivation to me to try to set a proper balance of strength and compassion along with reason and love.
Unfortunately, both television and movies tend to portray men as either clowns (not to be taken seriously), or in need of guidance by a woman who is beautiful, confident, and powerful (and always has the answers). This unbalanced view of men and women can cause impressionable young men to not see masculine rolls as something to embrace and follow. I guess I miss the old days of men portrayed in masculine rolls and women as nurturing and loving and the person who can wipe away your tears.
@@stevehumble8865 In addition to all that is the plague of p0rn, which usually causes marriages then families to fail. Thus compounding conditions for increased depression and things that also cause it to increase.
This explains why the misogyny of the early 1900s was so high. It seems like it was a reaction from some men to being forced to compete with women for the first time in history rather than work with them. Now that the misogynists have been completely subdued, men no longer complain about having to compete with women. But it’s definitely been very detrimental to our birth rates and mental / physical health.
I agree with the suggestion of this video, the answer is for society to begin valuing femininity in women again. Similarly, value masculinity in men too
CS Lewis, in Mere Christianity, touches on the differences between MEN and WOMEN...
He suggests that if the neighbor's dog were to bite one of your children, it would probably not be a good idea to have "Mom" go over to the neighbor's house to handle it... No, send "Dad" as he would talk it over and handle the situation much differently!😂
Gotta love Brett McKay from the Art of Manliness Podcast! What a great ending!
Its a flaw in general
Christianity that they
deny SUBMISSION as
crucial because they
fear offending women
when the submission
of Christ to the Father
is the model for men
... BOTH are to submit
to the mission of
family unto God
For a couple of wonderfully articulate women who have been discussing this for a while check out Louise Perry (Maiden, Mother, Matriarch book The Case Against the Sexual Revolution) and Mary Harrington (Reactionary Feminist book, porcast and substack)
So good, and accurate.
The problem with
Green Berets is they
arent Marines who are
thoroughly reconditioned
to MISSION priority
... thats why they
suffer casualties
so disproportionately
Would like a link to the guy with long hair’s video on this topic. Not saying I don’t appreciate your comments that are interspersed, but I’d like to see the source material without interruption.
Since Jacob apparently doesn't read comments or do normal things like link people to a video he uses in his own, for those wondering, here is the video on womanism that was used: ua-cam.com/video/zGToXvvkKgA/v-deo.html
I have seen first hand how toxic feminism is the most vile hateful indignities I have ever suffered was at the hands of women.
Isnt this an old video?
Like the “collective witness,” this is the prioritization of a particular viewpoint and its application across time and place. It’s ironic that a self-professed anti-Marxist would resort to similar historical and rhetorical tools as Marxist historians.
It’s because he is a pseudo intellectual
LOVE IT
Wow so true!
The Post Millennial Man is a Christian guy with a small channel, but he does any excellent job describing what Biblical marriage should look like. I encourage you to check him out.
A full episode on Feminism; and not one mention of hormonal contraceptives? Or baby-deleting? I’d advise the listener read “Sex and Culture “ by JD Unwin and “Decline of the West” by Oswald Spengler.
On the podcast "Whatever" a guy (forgot his name) pointed out that women only have rights as a result of the benevolence of men. If all men decided that women do not have rights, there is nothing women could do about it. Not saying that should be the case of course, but pointing out that the fact that they do say a lot about men where women DO have rights. And to point out that we are inherently not equal.
I love that it was a MAN that came up with the idea of Feminism. It makes sense as feminism sounds like it was made up by men. I often say it was created in 1950's by 5 frat boys after a night of partying and drinking in a frat house common room. They jokingly decided to make a feminist manifesto as a way to fool women into doing what men want w/o women knowing it is what men want. The pill, abortions, protesting nude, posing nude in movies to advance their careers, becoming the bread winners, not wanting children. The frat boys accidentally dropped the manifesto on campus and a female student picked it up thinking was legit.
It was probably Andrew Wilson from The Crucible
Would love to see Andrew Wilson & Jacob Hansen do a podcast together.
Andrew Wilson can be "aggressive" (he's the best at debating) but it would very intellectually stimulating.
Which man do you believe came up with feminism?
I'd look up Victoria Woodhull to really go back to the start of the modern movement and who she influenced from there. Men were involved for sure, but it would be a tall task to find a man who is credited with implanting those ideas.
What's more accurate is that men heard they could have far less responsiblity if they went al9ng with feminism and it spoke to their carnal nature the way it does to a woman's carnal nature and that resulted in support from men.
@@mattherron173 Yes, thank you.
@@michaelwilliamzitar8493 watch the video. He mentions the name.
I'm sticking with my frat house common room story though.
I completely disagree with equality of opportunity. I do not believe the military should have an equal opportunity for men and women. Men should be fighting wars, not women, regardless of how capable a woman can be in combat.
Same for certain jobs and careers. Women shouldn't be doing highty dangerous jobs or that require heavy labor.
Men and women should have some specific roles and they should not intersect at all.
I think you are mixing equality of opportunity with equality of outcome. When people talk about equality of opportunity, they just mean we shouldn't be placing artificial barriers on people's opportunities for success because of their gender. And the interesting thing is, that as societies erase those barriers, men and women naturally fall into very distinct categories by gender lines, because it is natural for men and women to want to pursue different things.
Women are not capable in combat. You are correct about them not being in war. It's wrong and stupid
No, women should not have ANY opportunity to be in the military. I WANT artificial barriers. Absolutely.
@@jandjhirst Some women get hurt or killed because of a lack of those barriers.
@@stephtimms1776 I'm not sure what you are referring to. But people make choices every day that get them killed, part of having freedom is that you have to be responsible with how you use it. The real problem is when people are being coerced into things that get them killed.
The irony is that I believe it is largely the man that empowers feminism.
Adam didn't empower Eve to take the fruit. Satan did.
It's true
I would add that men are partly to blame for it as well. Perhaps if men had celebrated womanhood more and celebrated it properly...perhaps feminism would have been less attractive.
Well, it's definitely "the man" that obsesses over the topic--That's for sure!
@@mylesmarkson1686 I suspect if you counted the books written, the talks, speeches, classes, and conversations on the topic...you'd find that women are overwhelmingly more "obsessed" with the topic. And not ALL women of course...some women are busy...being women.
I’m laughing at the dude with long wavy feminine hair talking about masculine and feminine!
Your copy and paste comment is WAY off topic
By far the wildest video you’ve made yet, can wait to dissect it on my show. My god.
Reality is the court of final appeals. You are rejecting your feminine value to think otherwise. And you don't believe in God.
Are you a bitter old lady?
Also, I realize UA-cam is a game and there is an algorithm to feed in order to get your content out there. But I wish you wouldn’t use such clickbait titles. There are other ways to play the game. Please don’t devolve into the same fear/anger based emotional manipulation to get people to watch your videos.
Bring me on your show Jacob.
Oh so I see you are a Boyd K follower!
I'm a feminist and their is absolutely nothing wrong with it!
Men, like you can't handle a strong, intelligent, Independent woman.
So grateful my husband loves that I can carry my own!!!!
just wondering... did you watch the video?
@@faltermediaYes I did!
@@faltermedia I'm a very feminine woman, but a very strong and will.not cow tow to.any man!
Your comment just shows that you did not listen nor do you understand the arguments and completely reject real data.
@@topazblahblahI completely understand what he spewed.
More men in the church need to do team sports. Maybe then there will be more collaboration. There should be women in all meetings in the church.
Bring me on your show Jacob.
Jacob won’t have you on because he is afraid you’ll tell the truth and expose the church - that should tell everyone all they need to know about Jacob and his church. They need to meet the real Jesus ❤
Girl-power Jen. Expose Jake The One-Eyed Snake for what he truly is!
@@mylesmarkson1686Jacob would eat her idealogy a live and pit it it out while extending a hand of friendship at the same time.
@@mylesmarkson1686 I’ll be going LIVE next Monday with my crew in Girl Talk to but this
@@savedbygracethrufaith so true. Let’s see though, ima email him this morning and ask.