Great video(s)! I know those sites well, and visit them often. Surprisingly, a guy I have lunch with says Bighorn Sheep are associated with rain and rain making. His name is David S. Whitley and he has some fascinating insights on the subject. I always enjoy seeing others discover, ponder, and enjoy new places...
Its been years since I've been there. The last time, we found almost a dozen distinct sites away from the main area. I really need to go back and mark them on my GPS. Have you made it to the big public petroglyph site called "Sheep Springs" in the El Paso yet? And thank you for keeping this sites name vague.
It's really an incredible area-definitely worth far more time, for sure. I have been to the other site and of course, equally mesmerized. My hope would be that finding these sites is not impossible, but difficult enough that doing so provides visitors a sense of adventure and discovery and "worthiness" at having figured out the location on one's own-more or less.
@@artistic-off-road I agree. It is more satisfying to have spent hours looking for clues and having it pay off rather than just having it handed to you. The search also often times leads to other rabbit holes that are also fruitful.
@radioroom91 That area most definitely had more water centuries ago. Rivers maybe, creeks definitely. It would be fascinating to see what it looked like during the height of indigenous habitation.
Enjoyed your video! But did I hear you say the glyphs were likely 10,000yo? I'm in AZ where I see very similar looking stuff. I think the experts' opinions here are that those zoomorphs are probably 1500yo or less....earlier (archaic) stuff is generally geometric figures and/or abstract and also more re-patinated. Anyway, again thanks for posting.
Hi and thanks for your comment. No, I meant that the area has been inhabited possibly up to that period-based on what I’ve studied. Like you said, the oldest glyphs there are likely not more than several hundred years old-the highly patinated ones being the oldest, of course.
I hunt chukar in this area often and have found a few petroglyphs and several settlement sites. What is left is essentially rocks they stacked in a circle that acted as a foundation for whatever type of huts they formed. I don't believe there was any sort of creeks in the area ever that were not just seasonal effects of storms. I think there was just springs. What happened to more of the springs? My thoughts are that when they brought domesticated grazing animals they overgrazed the areas around the springs causing damage to the vegetation allowing storms to wash the area and sediment away. This in turn destroyed an areas ability to hold water and retain water and that was that.
Thanks for this comment, and yes, that sounds right. I know there are still a number of springs in those mountains, but probably far fewer as you say. Happy hunting.
Should have left the car at home and went by bicycle. the juxtaposition of modernism, in form of vehicle, with archaeological findings is a little jarring and unedifying. or else just leave your vehicle out of video.
@@artistic-off-road Dope vid brotha I can’t get enough of this stuff. If you want to add more footage of the mission to the sites then do so. Do what you like and the right people will find your content. Good luck brotha Subbed
@@brandonjohnson9625no need to get overly excited. just made the comment that a flashy add for a jeep did not mesh well with a discovery of an ancient petroglyph. little bit discordant, no? a modern behemoth of technology side by side with prehistoric art? would you drive a 4 by 4 into the louvre? Or Sistine chapel?
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Awesome finds!
Thanks!
Sweet video, man! Love the driving shots and your narration. Feel like I got to go along on the trip with you!
Cool! Loved you imagining what the hunters saw in the wash.
Thanks, man! Going to some of these places definitely feels like a journey back through time.
Great video(s)! I know those sites well, and visit them often. Surprisingly, a guy I have lunch with says Bighorn Sheep are associated with rain and rain making. His name is David S. Whitley and he has some fascinating insights on the subject. I always enjoy seeing others discover, ponder, and enjoy new places...
Thank you! Yes, I have read some of Whitley's work. I'd imagine it to be a joy to listen to his stories over a good meal.
Its been years since I've been there. The last time, we found almost a dozen distinct sites away from the main area. I really need to go back and mark them on my GPS.
Have you made it to the big public petroglyph site called "Sheep Springs" in the El Paso yet?
And thank you for keeping this sites name vague.
It's really an incredible area-definitely worth far more time, for sure. I have been to the other site and of course, equally mesmerized. My hope would be that finding these sites is not impossible, but difficult enough that doing so provides visitors a sense of adventure and discovery and "worthiness" at having figured out the location on one's own-more or less.
@@artistic-off-road I agree. It is more satisfying to have spent hours looking for clues and having it pay off rather than just having it handed to you. The search also often times leads to other rabbit holes that are also fruitful.
Great finds. Looks like alot of the rock art ive found around agua fria in arizona.
Very cool. Definitely no shortage of places to explore!
Wonder if them plains were more green if there were rivers running through.
@radioroom91 That area most definitely had more water centuries ago. Rivers maybe, creeks definitely. It would be fascinating to see what it looked like during the height of indigenous habitation.
Enjoyed your video! But did I hear you say the glyphs were likely 10,000yo? I'm in AZ where I see very similar looking stuff. I think the experts' opinions here are that those zoomorphs are probably 1500yo or less....earlier (archaic) stuff is generally geometric figures and/or abstract and also more re-patinated. Anyway, again thanks for posting.
Hi and thanks for your comment. No, I meant that the area has been inhabited possibly up to that period-based on what I’ve studied. Like you said, the oldest glyphs there are likely not more than several hundred years old-the highly patinated ones being the oldest, of course.
Go check out Fossil Falls, just North of where you are. Lots of obsidian chips and some petroglyph.
I hunt chukar in this area often and have found a few petroglyphs and several settlement sites. What is left is essentially rocks they stacked in a circle that acted as a foundation for whatever type of huts they formed. I don't believe there was any sort of creeks in the area ever that were not just seasonal effects of storms. I think there was just springs. What happened to more of the springs? My thoughts are that when they brought domesticated grazing animals they overgrazed the areas around the springs causing damage to the vegetation allowing storms to wash the area and sediment away. This in turn destroyed an areas ability to hold water and retain water and that was that.
Thanks for this comment, and yes, that sounds right. I know there are still a number of springs in those mountains, but probably far fewer as you say. Happy hunting.
Well done , and don’t ever do a video with a bicycle in it
😂 I can’t promise anything, but it’s unlikely. 😁
Should have left the car at home and went by bicycle. the juxtaposition of modernism, in form of vehicle, with archaeological findings is a little jarring and unedifying. or else just leave your vehicle out of video.
I appreciate the constructive criticism and see your point. Will definitely take that into consideration on future journeys!
Are you kidding me? Yeah he’s going to ride a bike for a couple days just so you don’t get jarred. Live and let live brotha Lmao
@@artistic-off-road Dope vid brotha I can’t get enough of this stuff. If you want to add more footage of the mission to the sites then do so. Do what you like and the right people will find your content. Good luck brotha
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@@brandonjohnson9625no need to get overly excited. just made the comment that a flashy add for a jeep did not mesh well with a discovery of an ancient petroglyph. little bit discordant, no? a modern behemoth of technology side by side with prehistoric art? would you drive a 4 by 4 into the louvre? Or Sistine chapel?
@brandonjohnson9625 Thanks so much for the comment. Agreed. Part of the fun is the journey there-even if it requires a machine.
It was the most secret till you advertised the location
Haha. I'd challenge you to show me exactly where it's at then! lol