Is it Possible to Upgrade Debian 1.3 to Debian 11?

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2022
  • In this video, I take Debian 1.3--which came out back in 1997--and try to upgrade it all the way to Debian 11--the latest version at the time of making this video.
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  • @jongeduard
    @jongeduard 23 дні тому +1

    It's kind of possible! And I did it, from 5 upward. But how... Well, just gall me a geek. 😄
    First I succeeded from 6 to 12 and then again from 5 to 12. And then further to 13 testing. One next version at a time, so that's 7 steps for the first time and 8 steps for the latter. And actually from completely 5 to 6 failed the first time for me too, so that's why I decided to start from 6, before eventually trying from 5 again.
    And it was a LOT of work with a lot of times where I had to restore a previous VM image backup, but an real historic learning experience.
    The main thing is that you need quite a lot of understanding of things going on. And you have to do a lot of research.
    First everything from the archive mirrors, later from the still maintained version mirrors.
    Most importantly you have to be super precise with what you put in the sources list file, and be aware of some structural changes that they made to the sources during the years.
    Basically, as long as apt update gives errors, the sources list is still incorrect and you will end up with a broken result.
    In many cases I needed several apt update attempts before I was ready to do the actual upgrade and dist upgrade.
    Also an issue is that I faced a couple of problems like having to manually removing some packages in order to get the upgrade in anyway done.
    And in the case of Jessie, the desktop did not work at all, including gdm, so really had work in a non graphical TTY. Which is not a real issue.

  • @DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid
    @DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid 5 місяців тому +1

    6:27 [I don't know about the old Debian, but I'm using Debian since Debian 5] I think you need to use "halt" command. Not "poweroff"

    • @DrewHowdenTech
      @DrewHowdenTech  5 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately that doesn’t actually power down the system.

  • @eulondon
    @eulondon Рік тому +2

    Back in the day this was a big problem because the time between releases were too long. What one would do is keeping updating with the security updates. Before going to the next version, one would go to testing when RC was near. And back to release when and do a "fake" dist upgrade". Because most stuff was already RC. The gpg error is because of time expired so you should keep the vm time not too far from the usual dates one would be upgrading. And forget networking that would just mess with the dates again. The glibc you should take the source of the required version or similar version source and compile to get past the error. Dont worry my first debian was 3.0 but everyone was on testing because 3 stagnated before the community took action for them to change the way the "releases" work. Good old days.

    • @DrewHowdenTech
      @DrewHowdenTech  Рік тому +1

      Great suggestions. I should try that someday.

    • @yoshi314
      @yoshi314 Рік тому +2

      i recall the hell it was to update from debian 3.0 or 3.1a to anything more recent.

  • @AGamersWork
    @AGamersWork Рік тому

    yooo

    • @DrewHowdenTech
      @DrewHowdenTech  Рік тому +1

      Hello.

    • @tylerdean980
      @tylerdean980 Рік тому +1

      But can you go from BSD 1.0 to modern? Hope you have a PDP-11

    • @DrewHowdenTech
      @DrewHowdenTech  Рік тому +1

      Well, the very first version of BSD came out in 1978, so, based on my experience trying this with Debian 1.3--which came out almost 20 years later--probably not.
      In fact, because it's that old, I doubt I would even be able to get it DOWNLOADED; let alone installed.
      But if it were possible to do this with the first version of BSD, I do think it would make for a very interesting video.

    • @tylerdean980
      @tylerdean980 Рік тому +1

      @@DrewHowdenTech I know that BSD 2.11 is floating around out there, it's one of the images available on the PiDP-11 PDP-11 emulator.

    • @DrewHowdenTech
      @DrewHowdenTech  Рік тому +1

      Oh, thanks for sharing.
      Although, I doubt the original versions of BSD had much a package management system, which would make this task next to impossible.
      Also, if these early versions would have to run on ancient hardware, then I imagine the upgrade process would involve a drive clone or two (to migrate the installation to newer hardware that can support newer versions of BSD).