Your updates are helpful to me here in Salmon Idaho..our greenhouse is coming along well, should be installing metal and panels in March. Still working on my grow plan. Looking forward to the spring to get things going..
Just a quick heads up, as the banana tree gets bigger you will need to bend the tree a bit to help the new banana leafs (shoots) have enough room to unfurl. Otherwise the spine of the leaf will break on the greenhouse roof.
We live in an area now where citrus trees grow outdoors without a problem and we have an orange, grapefruit and lemon tree. We are moving further north where the climate is not hospitable to citrus trees. You have given me hope to be able to grow citrus in our new place! I love your setup and thank you so much for sharing it with us! BTW, I was seriously going to miss our citrus trees the most out of everything where we are living now. Even though I still have to leave our wonderful trees behind, I now feel better that there is a possibility of us continuing to have home grown, pesticide free citrus!
I have really enjoyed watching your progress. I've been watching from your early videos. I have plans to dig out a walipini here in Eagle Mountain, UT next year and am taking inspiration from you.
Always enjoy your updates. I just completed my 48’ greenhouse up here in Salmon Idaho, so I’ve been rewatching all of your videos. Would you be able to share you winter vegetable crop list? Thanks
We are preparing to build a greenhouse in the snow. Your south wall is different than the original plans. Would you mind explaining how you built this?
Does the air circulate from the inside of the greenhouse in a closed loop through the geothermal pipes, or does the air come in from the outside into the geothermal pipes? Just wondering about fresh air for the plants during winter.
I have both. I have a 250 foot run that enters and exits inside greenhouse. I have two other sets. One goes from greenhouse to shop and the other exits outside.
The deeper the better for geothermal heating/cooling but you also loose sunlight as you go deeper. In my opinion, 5-6 feet is ideal unless you add some lighting for winter when Sun is low.
yes I'll do weather updates from time to time. This Greenhouse has a backup heater set to turn on at 48 degrees fahrenheit because I have some sensitive tropicals in there. Otherwise, it would maintain 40 plus. If we get a really cold sub zero night, I'll update. We've had them before and things seem to hold up well.
Would love to see your greenhouse up close and personal. We live in Lehi. And is there anyway we could contact you and come and see your greenhouse? We plan on building our own here in Lehi and would love to visit and learn from you. How do we do this so personal info isn’t given across the digital world?
What was your cost with the spray foam? Would you buy the kit or build your own design the next time? what would you do different. Add some 55gal black water barrels a water has the best heat sink rating of 65 compared to all other materials.
I think I paid $1800 for the spray foam and paint cover. Next time I would probably do my own design based on what I've learned from this one. I've tried using heat barrels. Its a good idea.
@@trailbreakfarms I used galvanized metal with rock wool insulation behind it on the North wall and along the bottom of the South wall. The galvanized metal reflects the light in winter. I am super happy with this as I didn’t want to mess with spray foam and paint. Snow peas, arugula, Napa cabbage, daikon radishes and winter lettuce mix are thriving in the North bed even with -24 temps a few times this winter. I use a single burner propane heater attached to a small propane tank on the way below zero nights but am considering running a propane line and installing a propane heater this year.
Hi there! I work with Mountainland Technical College, and we are looking at ways to conserve, and recover excess energy usage. We are considering building a greenhouse at one of our campuses. Is there any way we might possibly be able to come check out your setup sometime?
Yes. The Geo Thermal is used for heating and cooling. To be fair, I use additional fans during summer and have a back up heater for winter when it gets really cold because Geothermal will keep it above 40 but I want it above 48 (degrees fahrenheit)
Where are you? what state is that? I am in Canada. Does your pomegranate not go dormant? mine drops the leaves early-Mid December. I have a greenhouse too.. not as big and intense and lush as yours.
How are the plants pollinated? And when you plant in the soil I’m betting you have to amend it pretty well since you’re below topsoil. Do you simply use compost to fertilize?
we open vents in the spring and the bees and other critters seem to find their way inside. we also purchase mason bees from crown bees. Things seem to get pollinated so its working. When planting, we use compost and locally purchased planting soil to help.
Thank you for your videos! These have been very helpful in planning for my own greenhouse. Would you mind sharing your average electricity cost? I am trying to get a reliable sense for what I should budget each year.
When Solar is on, costs are $0. Generally costs are about $25 per month otherwise. But if we turn on the back up heater during cold months, it can cost $200/month.
I have 3 or 4 varieties. I don't remember which. I think one is called "brown turkey". Its not unusual for them to loose leaves from time to time in a Greenhouse. They should do well in there.
From time to time, they go dormant, just cut the water by 50% and give them some rest. I knew people who had figs outside in northern Jersey. They were 20 feet tall and had to be wrapped every year. The people would take the leaves and wrap the entire tree for insulation. It appears to have worked.
Thank you for continuing to give updates. In your opinion does the success in winter have more to do with the greenhouse effect or the fresh air being warmed by the earth going through the tubes?
Winter seems easier than Summer in that temperature is easily managed during Winter and Summer is more difficult to cool and the Greenhouse gets dry because of the Fans constantly running. In my Climate, we get hot during Summer (over 100 several times) and cold during Winter (temperatures can be near 0). That puts a lot of pressure on a Greenhouse. But its working.
Love your greenhouse, and thankyou for update. Planning to make one too. Im in zone 5, so it gets pretty cold in winter and i want some place to escape from winter
I just finished my Greenhouse in the Snow. Just in time for winter. I'm getting condensation on the inside of the lexan. It goes away after running the fans for several hours. Are you seeing the same? Any tips for condensation? It got down to 10 deg F a few nights ago. In the morning it was 42 inside. I was pleased with that. I have not yet added any extra heat source other than buried tubes. But I imagine I will need it for the times it gets below 0.
Looks great. We’re excavating for one right now. Do you have a source of backup heat this winter? If so, what is the temperature set for the heat to come on? Or does the GH maintain at 48F with just the geothermal circuit? Thank you.
yes I have a back up heater. The Greenhouse will maintain above 40 without it but because I have sensitive tropicals, I want it 48 and above so that's about where it comes on.
Do you still pump air in/out of your shop, or are you using the original drain pipes air method? Just curious I plan on building one of these within a year, I appreciate your advice?
Yes I still push/pull air from the shop depending on temperature. I think a Greenhouse was meant to be a complement to another structure like a home or shop to balance heating/cooling needs of both.
Wait, so there is actually a thing called peanut butter fruit? Just yesterday I discovered there is a thing called blackberry jam fruit. And apparently it tastes just like blackberry jam! Even has a similar consistency. I want to try eating both of these at the same time.
Looks Awesome! Good Job!! What would you change if you had to do it all over again? I can't remember the original size you went with. I do remember you had a high water table a while ago.
I would make sure metal is treated so it doesn't rust. I would put an additional set of tubes coming out of small room to help cool during hot summers.
Banana will have to be hand pollinated, as the pollinators are normally BATS. So unless you get bats in your green house, your only option I know of is hand pollination.
Love the update and seeing your tropical paradise. Hoping to start our own someday soon.
Hoping for a new update this winter. I think it's awesome you're able to maintain such high temps in your region.
Thanks for the update! Been fun to watch and dream of having my own someday to escape our winters here in the Midwest in northern Iowa
Yep. You gotta do it. Makes Winter more enjoyable.
Hi, I would like to know what you use for Rufing top thank you
Your updates are helpful to me here in Salmon Idaho..our greenhouse is coming along well, should be installing metal and panels in March. Still working on my grow plan. Looking forward to the spring to get things going..
Wow, your citrus trees are doing so well and very green.
Just a quick heads up, as the banana tree gets bigger you will need to bend the tree a bit to help the new banana leafs (shoots) have enough room to unfurl. Otherwise the spine of the leaf will break on the greenhouse roof.
Love your geothermal greenhouse. Absolutely wonderful 🌿
We are on our second year with our green house in the snow, love watching the progress.
Iv sub your channel 🌞❤️🌱hope you also get a vid out there too. 👍🏼🌞❤️🌱
would love to see updates of your set up
We live in an area now where citrus trees grow outdoors without a problem and we have an orange, grapefruit and lemon tree. We are moving further north where the climate is not hospitable to citrus trees. You have given me hope to be able to grow citrus in our new place! I love your setup and thank you so much for sharing it with us! BTW, I was seriously going to miss our citrus trees the most out of everything where we are living now. Even though I still have to leave our wonderful trees behind, I now feel better that there is a possibility of us continuing to have home grown, pesticide free citrus!
I love growing Citrus trees. You can definitely grow them indoors or in a Greenhouse. They are among my most hardy of trees.
@@trailbreakfarms We will definitely be trying to grow them in our new area.
@@trailbreakfarms how come you don't plant them into the ground?
Appreciate the updates. It's beautiful! I live in cental Utah. We are seriously considering this type if greenhouse.
Oh I want one of these! This Ontarian needs an escape from the cold in the winter! I would also love to grow year round!
The sound of the water is something l would definitely want in my geothermal green house.
Great update Thank you excellently well done! Keep on doing what you are doing!
Looking to build a 40x20 in ground greenhouse in San Pete soon here. Thanks for sharing your success
Good luck!
I have really enjoyed watching your progress. I've been watching from your early videos. I have plans to dig out a walipini here in Eagle Mountain, UT next year and am taking inspiration from you.
A Walipini would be great in Eagle Mountain
Nice work! I'm inspired!
Always enjoy your updates. I just completed my 48’ greenhouse up here in Salmon Idaho, so I’ve been rewatching all of your videos.
Would you be able to share you winter vegetable crop list?
Thanks
we are growing some carrots and beets right now. Otherwise, just the trees.
Wow!! Well done!!
thanks for the update.
love the updates!
This is incredible 😊
We are close to you from Payson and wondering if you allow people to come see your greenhouse. We are preparing to do a similar one.
We are preparing to build a greenhouse in the snow. Your south wall is different than the original plans. Would you mind explaining how you built this?
very good.
Hi! I live In Utah. Is there a chance to see your garden?
Amazing!
Maybe you can tilt your solar panels more in the winter so that they get more sun and shed more snow
Wow!! No electric heater at all??
Bravo 👏
These greenhouses are awesome, how long and wide is yours?
17 x 72
Does the air circulate from the inside of the greenhouse in a closed loop through the geothermal pipes, or does the air come in from the outside into the geothermal pipes? Just wondering about fresh air for the plants during winter.
I have both. I have a 250 foot run that enters and exits inside greenhouse. I have two other sets. One goes from greenhouse to shop and the other exits outside.
I wonder why people don’t dig it down deeper like 10ft to get more height?
The deeper the better for geothermal heating/cooling but you also loose sunlight as you go deeper. In my opinion, 5-6 feet is ideal unless you add some lighting for winter when Sun is low.
Can you please do an update after the recent freeze🥶 weather a couple days ago?🙏🎄
yes I'll do weather updates from time to time. This Greenhouse has a backup heater set to turn on at 48 degrees fahrenheit because I have some sensitive tropicals in there. Otherwise, it would maintain 40 plus. If we get a really cold sub zero night, I'll update. We've had them before and things seem to hold up well.
Would love to see your greenhouse up close and personal. We live in Lehi. And is there anyway we could contact you and come and see your greenhouse? We plan on building our own here in Lehi and would love to visit and learn from you. How do we do this so personal info isn’t given across the digital world?
we could arrange something when it dry's out a bit
Thanks for providing another update! Have your bananas produced any fruit?
Not yet. They are still young trees. But we can't wait.
Do you have more than one greenhouse or just one large one?
Thanks for sharing here! What length of kit did you go with?
72'
you dont run the geothermal during the winter days when its hot to thermally charge the earth for heating at night?
geothermal pipes are used depending on temperature (hot or cold)
What was your cost with the spray foam? Would you buy the kit or build your own design the next time? what would you do different. Add some 55gal black water barrels a water has the best heat sink rating of 65 compared to all other materials.
I think I paid $1800 for the spray foam and paint cover. Next time I would probably do my own design based on what I've learned from this one. I've tried using heat barrels. Its a good idea.
@@trailbreakfarms I used galvanized metal with rock wool insulation behind it on the North wall and along the bottom of the South wall. The galvanized metal reflects the light in winter. I am super happy with this as I didn’t want to mess with spray foam and paint. Snow peas, arugula, Napa cabbage, daikon radishes and winter lettuce mix are thriving in the North bed even with -24 temps a few times this winter. I use a single burner propane heater attached to a small propane tank on the way below zero nights but am considering running a propane line and installing a propane heater this year.
What did you end up doing with the snow accumulation over the course of the winter?
The snow falls off the Greenhouse as its warmer inside than outside causing the snow to melt and slide down the window.
Hi there! I work with Mountainland Technical College, and we are looking at ways to conserve, and recover excess energy usage. We are considering building a greenhouse at one of our campuses. Is there any way we might possibly be able to come check out your setup sometime?
sure.
What is the lowest temperature in winter?
👍 is this Geo thermal green house using earth heat to grow fruits ?
Yes. The Geo Thermal is used for heating and cooling. To be fair, I use additional fans during summer and have a back up heater for winter when it gets really cold because Geothermal will keep it above 40 but I want it above 48 (degrees fahrenheit)
Where are you? what state is that? I am in Canada. Does your pomegranate not go dormant? mine drops the leaves early-Mid December. I have a greenhouse too.. not as big and intense and lush as yours.
Utah. Yes, our Pomegranates do lose their leaves most the time during winter.
Anyone know what climate zone this is in? I am in zone 5b, curious how far an heated underground greenhouse can push zones.
6b
Can you grow chickens in this tropical garden ?
probably. we've got them on the outside.
How are the plants pollinated? And when you plant in the soil I’m betting you have to amend it pretty well since you’re below topsoil. Do you simply use compost to fertilize?
we open vents in the spring and the bees and other critters seem to find their way inside. we also purchase mason bees from crown bees. Things seem to get pollinated so its working. When planting, we use compost and locally purchased planting soil to help.
Thank you for your videos! These have been very helpful in planning for my own greenhouse. Would you mind sharing your average electricity cost? I am trying to get a reliable sense for what I should budget each year.
When Solar is on, costs are $0. Generally costs are about $25 per month otherwise. But if we turn on the back up heater during cold months, it can cost $200/month.
Im green with envy, nice set up, do you capture any of the snow for watering later in the year ?
great question. We have so much underground water filling our Ponds that we don't need to capture water. But I recommend it otherwise.
Very nice .... did the black pipe come with the kits?? For building the greenhouse
nope. I bought it at Home Depot
What variety are the figs? My fig lost its leaves in the greenhouse this winter.
I have 3 or 4 varieties. I don't remember which. I think one is called "brown turkey". Its not unusual for them to loose leaves from time to time in a Greenhouse. They should do well in there.
From time to time, they go dormant, just cut the water by 50% and give them some rest. I knew people who had figs outside in northern Jersey. They were 20 feet tall and had to be wrapped every year. The people would take the leaves and wrap the entire tree for insulation. It appears to have worked.
Are your avocado trees in pots or in the earth soil? Any luck with any avocado fruit?
One in the soil. Another small tree still in the Pot. Young trees. Still no Fruit.
Thank you for continuing to give updates. In your opinion does the success in winter have more to do with the greenhouse effect or the fresh air being warmed by the earth going through the tubes?
Winter seems easier than Summer in that temperature is easily managed during Winter and Summer is more difficult to cool and the Greenhouse gets dry because of the Fans constantly running. In my Climate, we get hot during Summer (over 100 several times) and cold during Winter (temperatures can be near 0). That puts a lot of pressure on a Greenhouse. But its working.
Love your greenhouse, and thankyou for update. Planning to make one too. Im in zone 5, so it gets pretty cold in winter and i want some place to escape from winter
Thx.
Are those geothermal pipes running underground has holes in them so heat transfer can be faster ? If yes, will there be water problem ?
I used pipes without holes because I have a high water table. I would recommend using the pipes with holes in them.
@@trailbreakfarms Thanks, please keep posting more videos, especially those harsh winter days. You got a subscriber.
I just finished my Greenhouse in the Snow. Just in time for winter. I'm getting condensation on the inside of the lexan. It goes away after running the fans for several hours. Are you seeing the same? Any tips for condensation? It got down to 10 deg F a few nights ago. In the morning it was 42 inside. I was pleased with that. I have not yet added any extra heat source other than buried tubes. But I imagine I will need it for the times it gets below 0.
yes the more you insulate your Greenhouse, the more you will see condensation. Running a fan really helps.
Looks great. We’re excavating for one right now. Do you have a source of backup heat this winter? If so, what is the temperature set for the heat to come on? Or does the GH maintain at 48F with just the geothermal circuit? Thank you.
yes I have a back up heater. The Greenhouse will maintain above 40 without it but because I have sensitive tropicals, I want it 48 and above so that's about where it comes on.
Who made the greenhouse frame?
greenhouse in the snow. its a kit.
Do you still pump air in/out of your shop, or are you using the original drain pipes air method? Just curious I plan on building one of these within a year, I appreciate your advice?
Yes I still push/pull air from the shop depending on temperature. I think a Greenhouse was meant to be a complement to another structure like a home or shop to balance heating/cooling needs of both.
Hi where did you buy greenhouse from?
greenhouseinthesnow.com
Wait, so there is actually a thing called peanut butter fruit? Just yesterday I discovered there is a thing called blackberry jam fruit. And apparently it tastes just like blackberry jam! Even has a similar consistency.
I want to try eating both of these at the same time.
yes there is! My first taste test was off my own Tree which was pretty cool. Kind of tasted like a tropical peanut butter.
Looks Awesome! Good Job!! What would you change if you had to do it all over again? I can't remember the original size you went with. I do remember you had a high water table a while ago.
I would make sure metal is treated so it doesn't rust. I would put an additional set of tubes coming out of small room to help cool during hot summers.
Awesome to watch how far this has run.
Great job. What type of soil mix do you use for your 🥑?
I use soil from a neighboring Farm mixed in with Mulch for all of my floor and planting.
What state are you in? Did you build this from a kit or design plan? Thank You
I am in Utah. I started with a Kit from Greenhouseinthesnow.com
Banana will have to be hand pollinated, as the pollinators are normally BATS. So unless you get bats in your green house, your only option I know of is hand pollination.
wife says no on Bats.
Common response, and I don't blame her. That is why I stated: Hand pollination.
However, Bat Guano makes GREAT fertilizer.
Where are you located?
Greenhouse is in Springville, Utah
Cold harvest
Hi Have you had bananas off your tree?
none yet. trees are still young. hoping they produce for us.