FINAL CUT IS PRO NO MORE
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- It’s over for Final Cut Pro. It can drop the pro. After what Apple said at WWDC about final cut and how they highlighted DaVinci resolve has really sealed final cut’s fate to be more a capcut competitor than a serious professional tool. And I have completely lost confidence and hope for the future Pro version of final cut pro. With the Final Cut Pro 10.8 bringing kinda cool features, will the next one prove me wrong and bring all the pro features and Apple intelligence we have been asking for?
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I use FCP everyday and will continue to use it because it's faster at doing the tasks I need it to do to produce income. Ive heard this same argument for a while, it's not like people weren't saying that about legacy FCP when comparing it to AVID. It's always the hands and the mind of the editor, at least for now, that is responsible for producing great content, not the software. FCP is more than capable on almost all fronts. Does it take workarounds on a few things? sure. But its efficiencies outweigh its deficiencies. at the end of the day, use whatever you want.
I still think I can edit and cut a video the fastest on FCPX.
To be completely honest, FCP isn't even a competitor for CapCut; it's not even close. CapCut works on Windows, Mac, mobile, and browser, and offers built-in features like auto-captioning, text-based editing, magic mask, collaborative editing, a keyframe editor, built-in video and photo enhancers, magic light etc. FCP has lost its professional edge and has become just a basic editor. It's basically the new iMovie and people fail to realize that.
If you're a professional, wake up and learn something new like DaVinci Resolve. That's just the reality. Don't get stuck. FCP will always be there for you, but you need to adapt. Collaborative editing is a must these days, and FCP just doesn't support that.
I agree, CapCut is coming to eat FCP's lunch, similar features, plus more kinda cool features, ease of use, and cross platform, and (mostly) free. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Amen. Thats my word.
I thought everyone thought that, lol
@@RafaelLudwig C'mon bruh... I downloaded Capcut just to see what you guys are talking about. Capcut has nowhere near the capability of FCPX. To say it's even close is an outright lie. I would say it's closer to an iMovie competitor. I do like their "Remove filler words" feature though.
The title of this video should be FINAL CUT IS PRO NO MORE FOR ME
It would be funny if Apple bought Blackmagic Design
Anyways the answer was always the same: use BOTH. When I need advanced stuff, I use DVR, when I need to make something fast (like my YT videos) - I use FCP because it’s beyond competition in terms of speed
Exactly! My use, too. Fcpx can’t be beat for broad stroke quick delivery. The magnetic timeline is brilliant. Davinci for advanced stuff
I would cry; there are things I don't love about Blackmagic in general-I had to delete most of this comment, since it turned into a mildly schizophrenic rant about cameras shipping in 2023 with horribly unreliable exFAT CFast 2.0 slots and janky USB 3.1 ports, that are too slow, mind you, to even keep up with the insane amount of data some of these cames output, rather than just exposing standard PCI-Express-based storage, as well as the cinema world's mind-boggling obsessionw with Thunderbolt when Ethernet is essentially the standard fabric for literally everything else at this point, with 100Gbps NICs on eBay for $80, 400Gbps available for several years now, and 800Gbps coming soon.
That said, Blackmagic is one of the few manufacturers who hasn't been totally evil, made cinema significantly more accessible and open, and most importantly for me: their software isn't limited to macOS or Windows.
One really nice thing about DaVinci Resolve is that it has native Linux support; I don't have to worry about Apple fucking me over every few years by dropping support for perfectly usable hardware, turning it into e-waste; I don't have to deal with the super flawed, corruption-prone APFS, or NTFS; and there is nothing that comes close to the audio latency you can get from Pipewire and a semi-realtime kernel on Linux.
It's been a dream compared to anything else. If Apple were to buyout BMD, I would be very surprised if other platforms did not slowly but slowly but abrutply discontinued with little warning. I am very happy being able to use a system I can put together with powerful off-the-shelf commodity hardware, having the freedom to tune the system to my performance needs, and the ability to audit, strip, and lock things down; I can't get that with Apple or Microsoft.
😮 If Apple bought Resolve, they will ruin it, BMD makes gear and gives away Resolve Studio for free if you bought a BMD camera gear. BMD continues to update Resolve, unlike Apple they don’t do a good job as they used to do in the past. BMD listen to their users, Apple no longer does, all they ask from you is to report it!
I'm done waiting for FCPX breakthrough. The lack of professional audio editing is a DEAL BREAKER. DR I'm coming!
Here's what you missed: Final Cut Pro is STILL a superior editor to anything else out there. Try doing a retime curve on Davinci and count the number of steps. Final Cut Pro lacks in other departments such as sound (sidechaining anyone?) and color grading. It is superior in keywording, batch exports, performance with 10+ bit 4K footage. It sucks in color management (Color Space Transform is dearly needed). I mainly agree with you and have bought Davinci and using it almost exclusively nowadays. However for editing Davinci is eons behind, I can edit 3 times faster in FCP. XML transfers to Davinci are still a pain.
100% agree! I’ve made other videos talking about those things specifically. Thanks for watching and the comment Nikos!
Truly. XML transfers are useless if you have multiple layers and cross fades
I wonder what that would mean for ApplePro Res Raw?
From my understanding FCP is really the only software that can properly edit this codec?
Kind of cool? No NLE has anything even close to "Enhance light and color" option that works like that. The only reason why you would use Davinci is exactly why you're using it, not because it's better but because you work with people who are using it so you're practically forced to use it. For solo editors there is nothing even close to Final Cut, no matter how it's called, and that's like 98% of the market :)
I agree and that is what I said in the video, and yes the enhance light and color is kinda cool, it's one step above auto color balance with more fine tuning. I love FCP as a crew of one, and 98% of the Mac market, which is only 11% of the total market. CapCut is coming to eat FCP's lunch, similar features, plus more kinda cool features, ease of use, and cross platform, and (mostly) free.
Thanks for watching and the comment Vlad!
And if you are bulding your own team, just focus on FCP. I own my editing studio, so if Windows got in there, that would be on me. How did he end up with "all these tools" on different platforms? Heck, for us, Linux WOULD be the second choice platform, not Windows.
@@RafaelLudwig CapCut is not “free”. You pay by giving away a lot of privacy and rights, don’t you? I use it sometimes for quick social media versioning of client videos. It creates dynamic captions so effortlessly, that is tempting. But I do feel guilty when I use it, as I am submitting material that my client paid for to the TikTok machine. I have my doubts, because I feel that I am legally in a grey zone as soon as I upload any client footage to CapCut.
I’m actually looking forward to next final cut pro update. The ease pf use sometime underestimated. For content creators who are more focused on story rather than visual quality this is great option for fast workflow. For me having both davinci resolve and final cut is a great option, for fast youtube videos my go to is final cut pro but for film festival short films and collaborating with colour corrector and sound designer davinci is awesome. So I actually like this divergence to give us more diverse tools rather than two tools that do pretty much the same thing.
I can fully understand! I've used both applications, and I am a one-man show. For ease of use, definitely final cut pro, but for the more advanced features for high-end projects with a high budget to go along with them. Definitely da Vinci.
I’ve edited hour long Documentaries, wedding films, commercials and so many other heavy projects in FCP, I also use it to color everything I film. I definitely wouldn’t say it’s a “consumer software” or less of a tool just because it doesn’t have AI features. Maybe it’s just not for everyone, just like PP wasn’t for me.
I left FCP a number of years ago for DaVinci and have never looked back. I still have FCP on my Mac but never open it.
Features: yes FCPX needs to better service for modern needs, e.g auto audio ducking, auto close captioning, role based audio mixing.
But purely as an NLE it works so much better. It’s a very fast and reliable video editor.
I expect Apple to focus more on backfilling AI powered features after the provide Apple Intelligence to their operating system, because some of it will be shared through an AI service (such as close captioning)
Yeah I feel they will introduce those features as they introduce them to the OS. And it’s still my favourite NLE out there, just harder to convince clients to finish projects in.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Completely agree!
I’m currently starting to edit my first ‘serious’ shoot (ie shot one act play with actors and crew) and I’m starting with izotrope to clean up the audio… then LogicPro and finally FCPX 10.8 (as an early adopter)
But IF things take off - video and audio will be spun off - so I can concentrate on the writing, acting and shoots… and they will use what they have to use… collaboratively!
I knew it was over when I saw the Final Cut camera and the black magic was still 100x better
I'm not an FCP user but am rooting for it in the professional space as we need options so we have options unlike the photoshop users.
This is probably one of the best reasons for FCP to succeed, very true and insightful. Thanks for pointing out this perspective, you are right! Thanks for watching and the comment!
You hit the nail on the head! My thoughts exactly! As a content creator who needs a quick workflow it works for me. But I could imagine that if I were still doing more professional work I would have left FCPX in a heartbeat
I think you’re right and as a basic content creator I’m excited about that.
I learned to edit on FCP 1.25 with the traditional NLE design. When FCPX arrived, I carefully read all about how it was designed and adopted a whole new workflow for organizing and editing, which I still feel is far superior. I can't go back. I use Resolve for processing raw and Fusion for VFX.
Installing Whisper Ai locally for transcriptions has changed everything. Dealing with online transcription sucked. I'm glad that era is gone. Also, $$$
For me as a beginner, Capcut is much more easer and interface friendly than FCP. Thanks for a video👍
I think you’re right - if you are a hardcore Pro Davinci is arguably peerless at this stage. Me, I’m a graphic designer and video content creator and FCP has always been my go-to for speed and simplicity, and I hope it will always stay that way. As long as Apple keep supporting and improving it on that level (and please add a few desperately needed features like auto caption-creation) I’m happy for the distinction. As for Premier, nah, no way, I’d sooner learn Davinci for sure.
I've quit using Apple Computers and Final Cut. I've been using CapCut and I've never been more happy. 😊
Thanks. Downloading DaVinci now.
Worth it, if it's what works best for you! Thanks for watching and the comment!
@@RafaelLudwig I’ve been thinking about trying something new and also thinking about FCP not being so pro anymore for a while now. Your video just pushed me to try out something different. Thanks again.
@@RafaelLudwig And how many percent did you earn now?
I will not switch from FCP to any other video editor, because for my current projects it is the best in terms of stability and speed. For example, on Mac mini M1 with minimal configuration multi-camera project with color correction and graphics layer it renders fast enough, - in a minute and a few seconds it renders a ten-minute video. DaVinci on a Mac mini will only be able to run, but it can't run on such weak hardware.
FCP is still my favourite NLE for a crew of one! It's a smart choice. I wish I could use it from start to finish of every project! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Thanks Rafael you always say the truth about Final cut pro. 1 year ago i understand everything Apple were doing, and i switched to resolve.
Admittedly, I only use FCPX and have never used DV, but I came here to see the primary features I’m missing. Looks like they are Windows version, deeper sound editing & deeper color grading.
I don’t need Windows - for years I’ve worked in an all Mac shop. I could see the value in more sophisticated color grading - even AI color grading - but the FCPX tools have been adequate for me.
The main improvement I’d wish for would be better audio management - even just an extensive graphic equalizer. But not only is this a fairly rare need, and not only could this easily appear in a next upgrade, but it’s even not so hard to process audio separately in a different app in the rare situation I’d need that.
Did I miss any *other* key FCPX failings?
Great review (+1 subscriber). And Resolve is optimized for NPU/Copilot+PC, perfect on the Go 🚀
Now if they could just put prores raw on Resolve that would be awesome.
A few months ago, I switched from FCP to DR, and I really love it so far. It was a huge learning curve at first, but there are so many things you can do with Resolve. However, from time to time, I do miss FCP, mainly for its simplicity and magnetic timeline, but I feel like it's too basic for my current needs.
All we need is a keyframe editor for fcpx and im fine 😂😂
this plus better Audio! An awesome integration with Logic Pro would cut it for me too. But it is too unstable.
I just moved from a PC using Premier and bought a 13” iPad Pro and although I mainly edit photos I did use PP for some travel video and family video projects. I love the iPad for its portability so I’m currently trying PFP for iPad and although it’s super simple and easy to make a quick edit and DOES I put my XFAVC 4k canon clog 3 footage and I can color it pretty nicely there are some simple features that I really used in PP that are def not able to be done in the iPad version. I think I can get like 85% there with FCP but and left wanting more. I’m just a bit intimidated by trying to figure out DR. I know the iPad version is way more powerful I think I just need to get used to it.
I appreciate what you're dishing, but FCP is ours to keep. caput is subscription based and if they should go belly up FCP will still serve us WITHOUT internet connection.🕶
I’m not pro enough the relearn a new program as I think for my vlog fcpx is pro enough. 😅
Not even Apple uses Final Cut “pro”.
Exactly! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Sorry to hear Raf this as it's part of your workflow and revenue stream. I can't say that I'm surprised though. Everything post FCP7 (IMO) hasn't been with the aim to an the industry leader. Their focus has been more on hardware.
I have been using whatever is best for the current project I am on. I am NLE Agnostic, Personal project FCP, team projects DR. I'll use iMove and CapCut if there is nothing else to use. the fundamentals to editing remain the same. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Final Cut holds an edge in Multicam with multiple audiosources. Resolve and Premiere really suck at this. BUT that is a really small advantage. Resolve is still my go to unless I'm in a big hurry.
This is exactly it! FCP is my fastest editor, I use it for all my rough cuts regardless of the project, footage in, edit assembly, get it in front of clients, as they review I export xml and rebuild in DR and go on to finish there. I wish I could do it all in FCP. No client wants an FCP project file to deal with, DR is still a bit of a hard sell but acceptable once explained. FCP is a hard no.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
I saw your thumbnail and I agreed with your video immediately
I never saw it as a premiere or resolve competitor. That decision was made after FC 7. Same with Aperture . It’s to be a super iMovie. It works for me - I am not a pro
Final Cut will compete with Cap Cut...assuming Cap Cut isn't banned (a la TikTok). Maybe Apple sees an opening with the advanced/prosumer market, and sees that opening is about to get bigger (potentially).
In my opinion, all of these applications are simply tools to be utilized. Using DR does not automatically make someone a professional, and there have been feature films edited with FCP.
I agree, though that is not what I said in the video, I am finding it harder to use it on pro work because of working in a mixed OS environment, and hand offs are more of a hassle than just working in something the whole team can work with. If it's a crew of one, Final Cut can do Professional quality. Thanks for watching and the comment!
@@RafaelLudwig Understood, Am I correct in saying that you think that FCP should be able to run on both Windows and MAC based on your mixed OS comment?
Please continue to make great content, I enjoy it . Don't take my content as I'm trolling. I'm not.
@@duane4532 Apple Music had a huge uptake when then opened it up to windows and android. FCP would see a HUGE uptick in users if them made it cross platform. Which would lead to further development. Since it's MacOS only, it's only there to showcase the latest hardware from Apple. And now other companies are doing non linear editing better than FCP (DR and Capcut) I made this video to open up the conversation I have been having with friends and other pros privately. I hope I'm wrong, cuz I'd love to keep using FCP it is my favourite overall.
@@RafaelLudwig I don't think it matters as much, Here's why. If you're an editor chances are you're going to learn on whatever platform the client ( production Studio ) you're wanting to work with is using. There are some applications that only work with a certain chipset example Unreal Engine. Cinema 4D, etc.
Is it possible Apple may be preparing to buy BlackMagic and make Davanci an Apple product the same as they did with Logic (from eMagic)?
Avid or Adobe makes a lot more sense, if you think about it, Adobe has a "great" creative system, is already 100% rental, so if you add iCloud to Creative Suite, for a fixed rental per month, then you have a stable system preloaded with a ton of subscribers..
Nop
I don't think so. Apple would not want to get into all the hardware BlackMagic produce and the idea of DaVinci is to get people into the whole BlackMagic world.
I seriously doubt it
No they are not.
I think like you.. I have now definitively switched to davinci.. Final cut for those who don't try.. it's more than fine
👍🏽 good info!
Thanks for watching and the comment!
You called this years ago!! Time to get acquainted with davinci resolve.
Only if you need to, fcp is still goat for a crew of one. Thanks buddy!
I use DR but would not migrate to DR from FCP UNTIL DR gets a MAGNETIC TIMELINE! Moving videos around is a ROYAL PAIN. FCP does seem to be going down the road of iMovie.
FCPX is epic. I love it
AI Captions will come in 10 years! that seems to be the timeline for things people ask for.
Truth! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Exactly! Like it’s 2024! I really want a refund.
Filmora is a good video editor though ❤
I predict that Apple will acquire Blackmagic Design sometime in the next year or so just like they did with Emagic (Logic Pro) and even the company that first designed the interface in Final Cut Pro X. This would make a lot of sense as both companies complement eachother very well.
That makes zero sense for Apple. They don't need Blackmagic to make FCP better. And the BM business is far more complicated and less profitable than Apple's one.
It would make more sense for Apple to sell (or license) FCP code to black Magic and let them run with it. Or integrated it into DR.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
The thing is that the problem you are describing has always been there, as FCP has never been a collaborative NLE.
For sure, I did have hope that it would eventually get there. Now that hope is gone, it’s over!
Thanks for watching and the comment!
@@RafaelLudwig But we knew what was coming in this update. Don't get me wrong: I totally understand your point and the reason why you are switching. But I think that in your case you thought "enough" because of your needs and It is not really related with the update. I'm also tired to see that Apple does the bare minimum to keep FCP alive. I hope that now that a lot of AI features will como with Sequoia and thar Logic got a big upgrade, we will see more requested features in FCP. But I don't think collaborative tools are coming.
tbh almost any most basic software is enough for most people. people use "the best" yet use like 10 percent of the softwares possibilities let alone ,,ost of them don`t actually use it the way is should be used.
I remember when final cut pro 7 was the professional editing software and adobe was for the kids that couldn't afford it. I feel like final cut is just a joke now and adobe forgot why they became market leaders and is going to go the way of final cut when resolve overtakes it.
I left FCP a while ago. Apple only cares about what they want and do not consider our end results and how much we suffer to get their, which includes having in consideration the money we spend in Plugins. I really dislike what they have done and saving my headaches. Now using Davinci Resolve, and would also leave Davinci if Apple ever buys that software.
Totally understand, can't understand why there's no auto captions or text editing... even Capcut has more features. I'm leaving FCP because I don't want to be left behind. Think Apple is more a hardware company than software. Waited over 10 years for FCP to catch up. Even if apple release a massive update, they have lost trust and their silent treatment does not help.
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though its lacking a lot of functionality FCPx is still the fastest editor out there. (and I know Premiere + Resolve) Also: Nobody wants to use Adobe anymore, resolve has no prores support - where are the alternatives?
Bugs, bugs, bugs😢
Where does that leave imovie 😂
That's a great question! My daughter would rather use CapCut than iMovie, that speaks volumes! Thanks for watching and the comment!
I have a feeling that apple will buy Black Magic
Apple has no interest in camera or broadcast, what makes more sense and justifies the existence of icloud is if Apple bought Adobe, as Adobe is pure rental, you have the power of the creative suite, modified with Apple code, running on icloud, this would then further enhance the fcp for ipad rental.. Resolve would then focus on pro versions, Apple/Adobe on non pro/consumer...
It makes no sense for Apple to buy Blackmagic. It's a completly different business.
It's more likely Apple sells FCP to Black Magic at this point, and let them deal with it.
The only reason Davinci is free, they are about the hardware. Don't get me wrong DaVinci is awesome. I have it.
FCP died many years ago, when FCPX came. That's when i stopped using it.
I don’t trust Apple anymore, every time they start a new photo editor and bookmaker they end up just ending it suddenly? Why invest in a company that isn’t going to stick with their products!
The devs truly hate us!
It's not the Devs, it's Apple's focus, they are a consumer hardware company, and initially make the software to showcase the hardware, look at the App Store, why develop something that others are doing better for free (essentially) I believe the dev's hands are tied.
I heard the new release from Apple and walked into a retailer to buy the DaVinci Resolve speed editor with the pro version of the software over the weekend. I’m so done with the lack of innovation in Final Cut and seeing CapCut do things that I have hundreds of dollars in plugins to do is like a slap in the face. Done and gone
That's absurd. Apple loves their third party apps, which is why they showcase Resolve and Premiere (and others) regularly. They are crucial to a robust computer platform. As for being your "one stop shop" -- that is clearly not their goal. They are an editing platform. Not a VFX one. Not a high end mixing one. And the renaming effects, and search filter for effects -- are both crucial tools to the professional editing community. This doom and gloom stuff is so tiring.
I want to be able to use FCP on every project, that is what I mean by one stop shop. Personal and client projects. It would be nice to finish, mix and deliver in FCP but that is not the case, so more and more I have to start and finish edits in other apps. For a crew of one, it's great! Having to develop muscle memory for multiple apps that do mostly the same thing differently sucks - I want to use it every time. Tired of trying to convince clients to use it. It's always a hard no. SO Pro it ain't (for me)
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Still waiting to hear why you're comparing Final Cut to Capcut 😂 😂
If your only issue is Final Cut only being on Mac, well duh pick your platform.
Didn't hear any actual valid reasons tbh
Capcut is free and easy to use, Final Cut is easy to use but not free.
The amount of progress CapCut has made in the last 2 years is embarrassing compared to FCP. Another year or 2 and it'll have more capabilities than FCP and a vastly larger user base. Apple has no reason to continue seriously developing FCP when other companies are doing it for free for them. The new generation of content creators are learning on CapCut, and professionals are using DR. FCP user base is not growing, and Apple has a track record of promising pros one thing and not delivering or delivering the bare minimum (ahem Silicon Mac Pro)
If it doesn't get banned in the states, Capcut is coming to eat FCP's lunch with the creative consumer. DR already ate the Pro lunch.
It's over! But I made a video about how Apple could capitalize if the CapCut ban happens.ua-cam.com/video/Ag96jZb-I1g/v-deo.html
BlackMagic is pro? What is RED or Arri? Super Pro? Nobody is shooting high level content on BlackMagic cameras....
I should have been more specific - Post production pro equipment - I was more referring to DaVinci Resolve, and at this point Black Magic is the only one that has a camera that will should 8k for each eye for immersive video.
Thanks for watching and the comment Scotty!
Exactly. BlackMagic is entry to mid level pro. Nikon/RED and Arri are extreme high end pro. That's exactly what it is.
Adobe Premiere Pro is a pain, I rather have my toes burn in acid than use that crap. FCPX rules.
Enough of the fcpx sledge. You made a previous video saying you were moving to da vinci resolve. Leave fcpx behind and get on with your life.
Which video did I say I am moving to DR? I made a video about why others are switching. I use all the NLE's depending on the project, this video is about how it's harder to use it on my pro work. I will still use it just for personal work and UA-cam. Thanks for watching and the comment!
And how much exactly did Davinci pay you for this commercial? And what standard do you use to call yourself a "professional"? Beside youe linkedin page (where you call yourself professional) and a youtube channel youre not very "well known" are you?
How much is 0% of Zero? That's my commission from Blackmagic Design. I agree with you I am not well known. Though, I feel you are conflating Professional and Famous.
Professional: (noun) A person engaged in a specified activity, as a main paid occupation rather than as a pastime, that is competent or skilled in a particular activity.
Famous: (adjective) Known about by many people.
A person can be a professional and not famous, and a famous person isn't necessarily a professional.
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@@RafaelLudwig The reason i wrote this comment, after seeeing al your video's and even saved some of them for my eductation 😌, is that suddenly 80% of the video's that are presented to me by youtube scream that i should switch to Davinci because apple sucks. And that from other people that use to praise FCP right intoo heaven.
And when i see that some of those people also made beautifull product movies about expensive camera's wich i SHOULD buy (after they have been invited for a weekend in Japan by the factory of those camera's!) yes i DID start to wonder.
I loved the video tough! :-)
@@pep98 I use both FCP and DR, and would prefer to use FCP for everything, but I can't and more and more I can only use it for the initial rough cut - because there is nothing faster. It's when I have to pass the edit along to others or even to clients at the end of the project almost none of them want FCP project files. I have been holding out for so long that FCP would bring more features that pros would start using it more. But that is not the case. And the reason I made the video - It's hard to recommend FCP for anything other than a crew of one editor.
I agree with you, the landscape of YT has changed and it's hard to find actual opinions that aren't influenced by gifts or money.
I started making UA-cam videos as a way for share info about tested tool and proven processes that work for me and my team.
Check out capricorn8 (dot) com to see my company. we do lot's of 3D, VFX and editing work for pretty visiable brands (and lot's of medical animation). Though it's smaller market stuff.
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