I have used to listen calssical music since i was 16 yeas old n during these 44 years from that time my hearing skill progressed very much but i couldnt find any composers like beethoven n any conductor like karajan.
Could you imagine standing in front of the orchestra, conducting while this is played? There are so many sublime moments in this symphony, it amazes me.
100% yes. I would extend that "underrated" to the whole 8th, along with the 7th and partially the 4th. They are so full of subtle "non-classical" nuances paired with great orchestral development - those are really shiny gems in his symphonic works.
@@knorgl It's like when you read or hear that the best symphonies are the odd ones and things like that. The fourth, the eighth and the seventh, each is better than the other. What in my opinion is Beethoven's least great symphony is the second, but the first movement of the second is also very good. The first symphony is not far behind.
La grandezza del maestro Beethoven sta nella grande varietà di arie sinfoniche il movimento 2 della ottava sinfonia sembrerebbe quasi una overtour Verdiana. Ditemi che mondo sarebbe stato senza di LUI. Gloria eterna a questo uomo
An incandescently brilliant performance of Beethoven's personal favorite symphony. Yes, you gotta wonder about those 106 people who disliked this masterful performance. It is sheer perfection.
Sorry I have to disagree. Listened to all of Karajan's performance of Beethoven's symphonies on TV a long time ago. Technically brilliant, but he does not capture the Beethoven beat and passion. It makes the performance pedestrian as if the orchestra are playing all he right notes but can't wait to go to the pub. Listen to Bernstein, he knows the mind of Beethoven. Eroica and the 8th, superb perfomances.
This is the eighth gem in beethoven string of nine uncomparable Symphonies. It's also the shortest nonetheless one of the sweetest of all Symphonic music.
La conocí, como apasionado de la música, ya de adolescente. Este genio es muy genio, pero de sus sinfonías me quedo con ésta, quizá de las menos populares. Gracias Música, gracias músicos por alimentar nuestro espíritu, incluso en los peores momentos.
There has not been a more dramatic turning point in the history of music than Beethoven. With him, music becomes personal and deeply humane, vacillating restlessly between the constraints of the individual self and the yearning for absolute freedom. This is most obvious in his symphonies and string quartets.
Beethoven wasn't the turning point. He was the peak. He represented the perfect balance between personal/humane/absolute freedom while still operating under sound classical rules of constraint and logic. After him, music descends towards subjectivism and becomes less universal/relatable, a silver age.
Het 2e deel van de 8e symfonie was de herkenningsmelodie die we in de 6e klas zelf uitzochten voor een radioprogramma over klassieke muziek. Dit was mijn kennismaking met Beethoven.
La 2ème partie de la 8e Symphonie fut la chanson de thème à la 6e année uitzochten libre pour une émission de radio sur la musique classique. Ce fut mon initiation à Beethoven. C’est le néerlandais, mais vous aussi, Merci
I was this year in a concert with the conductor Javier Perianes in the Laiezhalle in Hamburg. It was so fantastic to hear the Symphony No.8 F#Major live. The Orchester have the name " Hamburger Symphoniker:
La metodología musical de Beethoven es indescriptible, como su primera sinfonía evolución hasta escribir la 9 sinfonía que hasta la hizo hablar. Really
Beethoven la llamaba,con cariño:"Mi pequeña sinfonia en Fa",en contraposición a la sexta,también en Fa,porque era consciente que estaba entre gigantes.
This is the first time I listen to Beethoven's 8th symphony. Now all the drums and basses are scaled down from the "Heroic Period" and there is a feeling of lightness and joyfulness (F-Major). Very enjoyable, it comes pretty much closer to a composition of Mozart! Except the finale, which is typical Beethoven: Heavy and somewhat bombastic.
+Marianne Uhrendorf Before making that kind of comments you should listen more often Beethoven 8th's symphony. It is typically Beethoven from the very beginning and could never be confused with a Mozart composition !
I have a bad habit of forgetting Beethoven's earlier classical-style music and thinking of him as a full-on romantic, but Marianne Uhrendorf has a point that much of Beethoven's music (including this piece but even more his early music) is influenced very heavily by Mozart. Although Beethoven is definitely distinct, you can absolutely hear Mozart in his compositions.
I think that both Mozart and Beethoven have very unique styles. When I listen to one, I do not hear the other. Some of the earlier Beethoven, as noted above, has a somewhat classical sound, which might make you think of Mozart, I guess.
Меня несколько удивляют комментарии, хотя я, конечно, не собираюсь никого оскорблять или доказывать противоположное уважаемому мною мнению комментаторов, которые считают, что 8 симфония - не лучшее, что есть у Бетховена. Это произведение, особенно первая часть, отнюдь (для меня) не походит на легкое и танцевальное. Это произведение наполнено таким мощным внутренним светом, таким чистым, тонким, безошибочным Слухом, который несколько отличается от нашего земного слуха, таким безукоризненным вкусом, что невольно воспринимаешь эту симфонию как преподнесенный слушателю большой подарок, первый продукт Чистого Творения, без каких-то внешних раздражителей, обнаженной Души, обнаженного в своей боли и внезапной беспомощности внутреннего мира композитора, а это в любом случае должно восприниматься с глубокой благодарностью. 8 симфонию, мне кажется, тоже можно назвать Героической. Даже с большим правом, чем 3. Впрочем, об этом судить не нам.
Давно слышал о том что кароян великий мастер ,я многое в деталях не понимаю,ну музыка и музыка многие мастера владеют искуством,а в чем значительнлсть караяна ,обьясните
Karajan unisce potenza e delicatezza.Ritmo incalzante e non pedestre. Violenza nello sguardo senza vista in un cervello che comunica sensazioni non visive. Grande negli orecchi e non meno nella agogica di cesellata perfezione metrico
My best guess is that they have a problem with something else- they dislike the particular orchestra that performed it, or are upset that they didn't use the correct extinct variants on common instruments that would have been used originally or something. They're too pædantic in any case.
Quizás convenga mostrar la traducción del nombre adoptado por el que subió la versión de von Karajan: Verachtet mir die Meister nicht. Es: No me menosprecies a los maestros. De todos modos creo que pocos, sino ninguno podría menospreciar a von Karajan.
Драматизм в музыке проявляется там, где в музыкальной ткани, с одной стороны, даёт о себе знать цепочка неразрешённых диссонансов и других неблагозвучий и, с другой стороны, присутствует цепочка разрешённых диссонансов, благодаря чему облагораживается музыкальное произведение. Без этой полярности исключёна возможность Выбора, а сама музыка становится, становясь бесцветной, теряет своё назначение как искусство. Теппер Михаил.
I have used to listen calssical music since i was 16 yeas old n during these 44 years from that time my hearing skill progressed very much but i couldnt find any composers like beethoven n any conductor like karajan.
Splendid. Magnanimous. Thank you Bethoven for this legacy of Love for Humanity that knows how to listen to you.
5:13-5:18. How could a person write something this beautiful and dramatic. I'll never know. Lovely symphony!
Could you imagine standing in front of the orchestra, conducting while this is played? There are so many sublime moments in this symphony, it amazes me.
For me, one of them is the minute between 15:42-16:42 on this recording. It transports me somewhere, every time.
Esplêndido. Magnânimo. Obrigada Bethoven por esse legado de Amor para Humanidade que sabe te ouvir. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
The eighth is one of the most poignant. No nonsense type. Yet soothing. All nine are wonderful. Sheer genius.
Beethoven is gooď
1. Allegro vivace e con brio 0:01
2. Allegretto scherzando 9:00
3. Tempo de Menuetto 12:56
4. Allegro vivace 18:46
Thanks!
Thanks so much 👍
Благодарю искренне!
Last movement is pure genius. Very underrated, I would say.
100% yes. I would extend that "underrated" to the whole 8th, along with the 7th and partially the 4th. They are so full of subtle "non-classical" nuances paired with great orchestral development - those are really shiny gems in his symphonic works.
@@knorgl It's like when you read or hear that the best symphonies are the odd ones and things like that. The fourth, the eighth and the seventh, each is better than the other. What in my opinion is Beethoven's least great symphony is the second, but the first movement of the second is also very good. The first symphony is not far behind.
For me, it is the most cheerful of 9 symphonies. Perfect for listening to while doing rehabilitation exercises
Je ne m'en lasse pas...Que de plaisir!
La grandezza del maestro Beethoven sta nella grande varietà di arie sinfoniche il movimento 2 della ottava sinfonia sembrerebbe quasi una overtour Verdiana. Ditemi che mondo sarebbe stato senza di LUI. Gloria eterna a questo uomo
An incandescently brilliant performance of Beethoven's personal favorite symphony. Yes, you gotta wonder about those 106 people who disliked this masterful performance. It is sheer perfection.
Nah,his favourite symphony was the Eroica
Sorry I have to disagree. Listened to all of Karajan's performance of Beethoven's symphonies on TV a long time ago. Technically brilliant, but he does not capture the Beethoven beat and passion. It makes the performance pedestrian as if the orchestra are playing all he right notes but can't wait to go to the pub. Listen to Bernstein, he knows the mind of Beethoven. Eroica and the 8th, superb perfomances.
Brilliant- immer wieder!
One of my favorite Beethoven's symphony's and one of his best.
This is the eighth gem in beethoven string of nine uncomparable Symphonies. It's also the shortest nonetheless one of the sweetest of all Symphonic music.
Thanks
Underrated symphony very enjoyable cheerful >
nuevamente, Karajan..que, junto de Furtwangler y Toscanini son mis favoritos..sherin krederdt
una din simfoniile mele preferate ...!!
Obra genial ejecutada por genios y dirigida por otro genio !
La conocí, como apasionado de la música, ya de adolescente. Este genio es muy genio, pero de sus sinfonías me quedo con ésta, quizá de las menos populares. Gracias Música, gracias músicos por alimentar nuestro espíritu, incluso en los peores momentos.
Bavo von Karajan, Bravo Beethoven!! Two masters Thanks for sharing your talents with everyman....
Von Karajan è stato è e rimarrà il migliore in assoluto nella direzione di Mozart e Beethoven
There has not been a more dramatic turning point in the history of music than Beethoven. With him, music becomes personal and deeply humane, vacillating restlessly between the constraints of the individual self and the yearning for absolute freedom. This is most obvious in his symphonies and string quartets.
haha
Beethoven wasn't the turning point. He was the peak. He represented the perfect balance between personal/humane/absolute freedom while still operating under sound classical rules of constraint and logic. After him, music descends towards subjectivism and becomes less universal/relatable, a silver age.
@@TK-tv5un how would you define a peak if not as a turning point?
Ma vattene a fanculo per cortesia, brutto stronzo
@@TK-tv5unhe was INDEED the turning point as he created himselves a complete different style of music.
Het 2e deel van de 8e symfonie was de herkenningsmelodie die we in de 6e
klas zelf uitzochten voor een radioprogramma over klassieke muziek.
Dit was mijn kennismaking met Beethoven.
La 2ème partie de la 8e Symphonie fut la chanson de thème à
la 6e année uitzochten libre pour une émission de radio sur la musique
classique. Ce fut mon initiation à Beethoven.
C’est le néerlandais, mais vous aussi, Merci
The eighth wonder of the world.
The Symphony No.8 works for me to listening to it everyday. Because its a very short symphony.
I listened to his 8 first time.Karajan s interpretation is upto the point.Impressive.
I was this year in a concert with the conductor Javier Perianes in the Laiezhalle in Hamburg. It was so fantastic to hear the Symphony No.8 F#Major live.
The Orchester have the name " Hamburger Symphoniker:
wonderful performans !!!
This is beautiful music and a wonderful performance.
La metodología musical de Beethoven es indescriptible, como su primera sinfonía evolución hasta escribir la 9 sinfonía que hasta la hizo hablar. Really
Symply AMAZING ! 😍
Magnifique. Grandiose,
Simplesmente genial, como sempre!!! Bravissimo!!!!
what a nice symphony beethoven!
It is his best.
Magnifique !
I actually like this more than his 7th.
So did Beethoven!
karajan is amazing
The second movement is a lot of fun.
Cierto, es muy apacible y tranquilízante. Para mí gusto la más hermosa de las sinfonías.
Merci beaucoup.
La dirigida por von karajan es la que mas me gusta
einfach nur genial!
Wundershön..
perfect...
This is divine.
VIII Symphony is The 8 Wonder of the World!! Cheerio
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M.
(Nearest Symphonic Masterpiece Closest To The 9th Symphony, That Ludwig Van Beethoven Left For Us All) (Thank You Sir) !!
永远的大师！！Forever love
Гениальное прочтение, на мой взгляд, этой симфонии дирежером Ю Домаркасом!
También me recuerdo a todos los cuentos de toda la Historia de la Humanidad-incluidos los de Hoffmann-_es mágico y reconfortante(pura fantasía)
Beethoven la llamaba,con cariño:"Mi pequeña sinfonia en Fa",en contraposición a la sexta,también en Fa,porque era consciente que estaba entre gigantes.
Who doesn't love to listen to a "Voltaren Forte" ad between movements?
This is the first time I listen to Beethoven's 8th symphony. Now all the drums and basses are scaled down from the "Heroic Period" and there is a feeling of lightness and joyfulness (F-Major). Very enjoyable, it comes pretty much closer to a composition of Mozart! Except the finale, which is typical Beethoven: Heavy and somewhat bombastic.
+Marianne Uhrendorf Before making that kind of comments you should listen more often Beethoven 8th's symphony. It is typically Beethoven from the very beginning and could never be confused with a Mozart composition !
I have a bad habit of forgetting Beethoven's earlier classical-style music and thinking of him as a full-on romantic, but Marianne Uhrendorf has a point that much of Beethoven's music (including this piece but even more his early music) is influenced very heavily by Mozart. Although Beethoven is definitely distinct, you can absolutely hear Mozart in his compositions.
Sorry, no, I can't. I can't hear Mozart anywhere in Beethoven's compositions.
How could Beethoven not be influenced by Mozart?
I think that both Mozart and Beethoven have very unique styles. When I listen to one, I do not hear the other. Some of the earlier Beethoven, as noted above, has a somewhat classical sound, which might make you think of Mozart, I guess.
SUPEEERB !!
9:04 2nd
12:55 3rd
18:42 4rth
A masterpice
auffiiderseen.....Best Music His 6.best, many like 9. more
ooooooooooooh man this is strong
Esto es el espíritu vienés de los valses de los Strauss padre e hijo
Моя любимая симфония.
Меня несколько удивляют комментарии, хотя я, конечно, не собираюсь никого оскорблять или доказывать противоположное уважаемому мною мнению комментаторов, которые считают, что 8 симфония - не лучшее, что есть у Бетховена. Это произведение, особенно первая часть, отнюдь (для меня) не походит на легкое и танцевальное. Это произведение наполнено таким мощным внутренним светом, таким чистым, тонким, безошибочным Слухом, который несколько отличается от нашего земного слуха, таким безукоризненным вкусом, что невольно воспринимаешь эту симфонию как преподнесенный слушателю большой подарок, первый продукт Чистого Творения, без каких-то внешних раздражителей, обнаженной Души, обнаженного в своей боли и внезапной беспомощности внутреннего мира композитора, а это в любом случае должно восприниматься с глубокой благодарностью. 8 симфонию, мне кажется, тоже можно назвать Героической. Даже с большим правом, чем 3. Впрочем, об этом судить не нам.
Muito bom.
Давно слышал о том что кароян великий мастер ,я многое в деталях не понимаю,ну музыка и музыка многие мастера владеют искуством,а в чем значительнлсть караяна ,обьясните
Karajan dirige come se fosse lo stesso Beethoven... Sinfonia "mozartiana" come Mozart non avrebbe potuto creare.
Karajan unisce potenza e delicatezza.Ritmo incalzante e non pedestre. Violenza nello sguardo senza vista in un cervello che comunica sensazioni non visive.
Grande negli orecchi e non meno nella agogica di cesellata perfezione metrico
@@ettoresanta1477-😅😅
I have to wonder about the 4 people who voted this down.
My best guess is that they have a problem with something else- they dislike the particular orchestra that performed it, or are upset that they didn't use the correct extinct variants on common instruments that would have been used originally or something. They're too pædantic in any case.
probably as deaf as beethoven
no one is deaf like beethoven
u mean 34
forget about them...every person is not human in the sense
It is official: Beethoven is the Mozart of music!
LOL!
hahahaha
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Who is your favorite conductor and why is it Karajan?
o simfonie , grandioasă ,,,supeeerb ..
Es von karajan.mejor,imposible
Muy hermosa sinfonía Espléndido Director Ojalá sin interrupciones
Quizás convenga mostrar la traducción del nombre adoptado por el que subió la versión de von Karajan: Verachtet mir die Meister nicht. Es: No me menosprecies a los maestros.
De todos modos creo que pocos, sino ninguno podría menospreciar a von Karajan.
The melody and tempo and winds just remind me of Schubert - did he pick up these orchestration lines from Ludwig? Here?
2019?
Musica incrível!!!
Pena que Aqui no Brasil somos obrigados a ouvir "Pablo vittar"
Quem suja nome da musica
vc pode escutar Beethoven totalmente de graça no UA-cam.... seja feliz!!!!!
This is the greatest Brahms symphony ever!!
Oh, wait...
Heavy Metal en sinfónica acústica básicamente
18:45 ❤
My favourite Beethoven symphony. Much better than the overrated 9th and 7th.
I hold the 7th and the 8th in the same high regard :P
my favourite is symphony 10. so underrated very few even know it exists. 1-9 are mere practice runs in comparison
4:33 ❗
Comentar bethowen...É desnecessário.
ネイティブ日本語だったから！オブジェいっぱい！
Esta sinfonia es magica. Me ha seducido.
4:33 estoy de acuerdo, amigo !
😔💙🌾🥀
Sono perfettamente d’accordo. Solo l’ultima considerazione mi suscita qualche perplessità. L’eroica e’l’eroica ….l’ottava sinfonia è l’ottava.
il et t sourd pour fair la Symhony no 8
Anyone know the clarinetist on this recording? Not the best trio solo I've heard !
K
Pro libertate et democratia!
L'unico errore commesso da Beethoven è stato quello di non averci donato una Decima Sinfonia
Ci ha pensato Johannes Brahms !
26:24
What is the orchestra playing please ?
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自分用
15:50
A mi no me vienen con cuentos antes de escribir sinfonías tiene que haber sido programador pero cual? Usted tiene alguna versión.
Niemand gleicht Karajan
1:40
Advertisments in the middle of classical music are disgusting and offensive. Ugly voices spoil the music. Absolute nonsence!
Драматизм в музыке проявляется там, где в музыкальной ткани, с одной стороны, даёт о себе знать цепочка неразрешённых диссонансов и других неблагозвучий и, с другой стороны, присутствует цепочка разрешённых диссонансов, благодаря чему облагораживается музыкальное произведение. Без этой полярности исключёна возможность Выбора, а сама музыка становится, становясь бесцветной, теряет своё назначение как искусство. Теппер Михаил.
Allahu akbar
Shalom Haverim 🔯
@@kikkerl Beethoven unico Dio
slipknot ist auch "meister"
NEIN!
doch =)
oohhhhh
Now what?
jai eter la voir en concert
NiRoX FrAyZuN waaaw toi parler bien la france !
One of the best symphonies. Better than the famous 5th or eroica , to my ears
I enjoy it,but get real !